| JimH |
I will be replacing my cedar shake roof within the next year or so.
It has 1-2 years of life left, and I am considering replacing it with lightweight tile roofing such as Monier Life Tile. This would entail getting plywood, and tiles placed on the roof. Has anyone replaced their cedar shake roofs with the new lightweight tiles, and what are your thoughts on the lightweight tiles. In addition, the main portion of the roof has a steeper pitch. I have ruled out replacing the cedar shakes due to quality of shakes now, and believe the lightweight cement tiles may be the best bang for the dollar. |
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| Fireblade6 |
Hello there-
Out here in San Diego, we have homes with "clay" tiles that resembles the old Spanish Haciendas. The tile are excellent for keeping the house cool but more importantly last much longer than wood shingles or tar shingles. It is cosmetically more pleasing to the eyes in my opinion.
I think with these tiles you may need to have better plywood support than the wood shingles simply because of weight. |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by Fireblade6
Hello there-
Out here in San Diego, we have homes with "clay" tiles that resembles the old Spanish Haciendas. The tile are excellent for keeping the house cool but more importantly last much longer than wood shingles or tar shingles. It is cosmetically more pleasing to the eyes in my opinion.
I think with these tiles you may need to have better plywood support than the wood shingles simply because of weight.
Agreed. :4: |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by Fireblade6
Hello there-
Out here in San Diego, we have homes with "clay" tiles that resembles the old Spanish Haciendas. The tile are excellent for keeping the house cool but more importantly last much longer than wood shingles or tar shingles. It is cosmetically more pleasing to the eyes in my opinion.
I think with these tiles you may need to have better plywood support than the wood shingles simply because of weight.
We selected the same option on our new home, but I am not sure they are the best looking option for every style of house. But there are are other styles made of the same material.
I will look in my neighborhood tomorrow to see if I can tell you the trade name. I see them being carted around almost everyday on flatbed trucks. They likely have a website showing all the styles. |
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| JimH |
DALEB:
That is the style I am looking at purchasing also. It seems to be the biggest seller up in SW and Central Oregon these days.
They look beautiful on the new houses I have seen, and I know they would look similar on my house. I just need to get a reputable roofer who has worked on putting these on. Some of their tiles look just like cedar shakes when you see them. I think the prices will continue to go down via supply/demand as they are very popular in Oregon now. |
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| socalJD |
Make sure you thoroughly screen the roofer. Get at least 3 competitive bids, get references from each roofer - check out their work, verify their contractor's license, and pay strict attention to the lien laws for your state. I nearly got burned by my roofer 2 years ago and it was a very excrutiating, stressful, maddening learning experience.
Most important, before making your final payment, make sure the roofer gives you lien releases for all the vendors that supplied labor or materials on your job - always hold back 10-15% of the contracted amount until you get all the releases. Long story short, in CA, even if you pay your roofer in full, if the roofer doesn't pay his vendors or laborers, they can come after YOU with a mechanics lien on YOUR property for the cost of their services. Don't learn the hard way like I did . . . :3: :3: :3: |
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| JimH |
SOCALJD:
Thanks for the heads-up re: contracting for a new roof. I have never had a new roof put on while living at a place. |
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| ByeByeChrysler |
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Originally posted by socalJD
Make sure you thoroughly screen the roofer. Get at least 3 competitive bids, get references from each roofer - check out their work, verify their contractor's license, and pay strict attention to the lien laws for your state. I nearly got burned by my roofer 2 years ago and it was a very excrutiating, stressful, maddening learning experience.
Ditto
Some manufactures of roofing materials train and certify roofers by having them attend training seminars. This is important as in my case, I bought 25yr tar shingles, and for that warranty to remain, they would have to have been installed correctly, so the roofer may not be around but the mfg. will, so this will honor the warranty. I learned that a roof is not just shingles, but a system that also includes the attic venting properly in order to prevent the shingles from warping. Whatever I just said, just see that the roofer is certified by the manufacturer, that will at least give you a good feeling about the work. |
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| JimH |
| I finally replaced my shake roof this month. I opted to use a more standard composition roof in order to save some $, and to fit in w/ my neighbors who all used composition materials in replacing their 15-20 year old shakesroofs. For folks contemplating a replacement roof using composition roofing, I would highly recommend that you look at the Certainteed brand. We went with the Certainteed Landmark TL brand which we thought looked better than other brands, and they are definitely built to last (lifetime warranty w/ a 50-year transferable warranty to a new owner if selling). Our roofer was impressed with the manufacturing quality and look of this brand also. A picture from a small area of the roof. |
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| BaldEagle |
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Originally posted by Fireblade6
Hello there-
Out here in San Diego, we have homes with "clay" tiles that resembles the old Spanish Haciendas. The tile are excellent for keeping the house cool but more importantly last much longer than wood shingles or tar shingles. It is cosmetically more pleasing to the eyes in my opinion.
I think with these tiles you may need to have better plywood support than the wood shingles simply because of weight.
Actually clay is now rarely used for roof tile. Most are made out of concrete.
Normal concrete roof tile weigh about 900 lbs a square and would not be practical to use on a retile. A special lighter version weighing less that 600 lbs a sq is made for retiling without extra support for the trusses. |
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| BaldEagle |
| Roofer installing the tile roof. |
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| G. COLTON |
I do not know the area of the country where you live so do not know if my comments appropriate.
If the "clay tile" spanish looking roof is put on properly it is very good in strong winds (read a hurricane). Much better than the standard composition.
In my part of the country metal roofs are becomming very popular. Some that are shapped to look like shakes and some that look like the old fashioned barn roof with ribs. However, they do look better than a barn roof. The major draw back is that they are about 3 times more expensive than standard roof. These metal roofs, if applied properly, are resistant to high wind loads.
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| trixie |
| Concrete tile is about all they use in Phoenix. I love my concrete tile roof. The only bad, they crack when hit by golf balls. I have 5-10/year replaced at a cost of about $250. And don't think about walking up there, your warranty could be voided. |
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| JimH |
| I am making an assumption that you live by a golf course re: golf balls cracking your tile roof? That is not a normal problem for most folks. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by trixie
Concrete tile is about all they use in Phoenix. I love my concrete tile roof. The only bad, they crack when hit by golf balls. I have 5-10/year replaced at a cost of about $250. And don't think about walking up there, your warranty could be voided.
Understood. I don't think there are many decent places to live in Phoenix that are far enough away from golf courses, or wannabees in their backyards. :D
But there are many pools to catch wayward shots also! |
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| hammermdx |
| BaldEagle, nice looking roof & house! |
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| wmquan |
We have a tile roof, and there are some gotchas.
If you live in an area where tile roofs are only a minority of roofs, you may have more difficulty finding roofers who are qualified to handle tile. That's the case in the Seattle area where cedar roofs, and various types of composition are all very popular.
Those you do find are often expensive as they tend to handle more expensive homes that get very elaborate tile roofs.
The next issue is making sure you have enough spare tiles to handle inevitable tile replacement. Tiles can get damaged by falling tree limbs, golf balls, roofers, etc. Some roof tiles get discontinued and may not be substitutable (e.g. when there is a more complex interlocking between the tiles).
E.g. we have Monier "Classic 100" tile on our roof and it's been discontinued. So we've been trying to stockpile enough spares to not worry about it.
There are some places around the country that will locate obsolete tile for you (either never used or salvage from a tear-down). It can be hit-or-miss because in some cases, a company like Monier will only make them for a specific regional market. |
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| BaldEagle |
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Originally posted by wmquan
We have a tile roof, and there are some gotchas..........
Yes, there are some downsides to tiled roofs. In addition to the higher costs for the tile the trusses are also more expensive because of the extra support required for the heavy tiles.
Seems like we paid about $1000 more for the trusses because of the tile. The tile was about $350 a square installed.
Good suggestion on saving some tile to be prepaired for repairs in the future. I'll make sure and save all that are extra when they are done.
We had no choice on the roof, CCR's required tile roofs in the subdivision where we are building. |
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| BaldEagle |
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BaldEagle, nice looking roof & house!
Thanks hammer. |
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