| zubinh |
I guess this is why Acura dealers are so cocky. They can afford to be.
Acura Sets All-Time April Sales Record
MDX Luxury SUV Also Enjoys Record-setting Month
TORRANCE, Calif., May 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Acura sales of 15,058 vehicles set a new record for the month of April according to American Honda Motor Co., Inc. Driven by record demand for the MDX luxury SUV and the strong debut of the all-new TSX sports sedan, April 2003 sales were up 1.9 percent compared to the
previous monthly record of 14,203 set in April of 2002.
"Despite some new entries in the segment, the MDX continues to connect with SUV buyers who demand performance, luxury and functionality," said DickColliver, executive vice president, sales. "And while the entry luxurysegment is extremely competitive, judging from the initial numbers, the TSX is
going to be a strong player in that segment."
MDX sales of 4,720 were up 30.2 percent compared to last year, and eclipsed the previous April record of 3,486 set in 2002. Year-to-date MDX sales climbed to 17,932, a 9.6 percent increase compared to last year. |
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| EXCALIBUR |
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Originally posted by zubinh
MDX sales of 4,720 were up 30.2 percent compared to last year, and eclipsed the previous April record of 3,486 set in 2002. Year-to-date MDX sales climbed to 17,932, a 9.6 percent increase compared to last year. In its first the number of units sold compared to
last year.
That's great news! 17,932 people made the right choice.:29: |
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| diceboy |
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Originally posted by EXCALIBUR
That's great news! 17,932 people made the right choice.:29:
Yeah, except now my MDX is 17,932 times less unique! |
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| EXCALIBUR |
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Originally posted by diceboy
Yeah, except now my MDX is 17,932 times less unique!
The MDX is a great SUV! To make your's unique...Accessorize. Accessorize. Accessorize.:4: |
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| renov8tress |
Maybe you are one of those salesguy/dealers trying to preserve your arrogance in getting MSRP or above, but it looks like those days are numbered.
It's a CAR, people, not a collector's item! And I have said before, the next trendy item will make the MDX just another car (Already there are many other competitors out there, especially those new station wagons!) And what are you all who paid MSRP or more going to say then? 'I had it when it was so cool I had to pay more money for it?' I'm glad there are so many people out there with so much disposable income that they can pay for 'cool' factor. Whoo hoo to you!
Funny, too, a comment made at my bank regarding getting money for a car. Usually, people find the car first? Why not get the money first? I would think that would put anyone in a better negotiating position.
So here in the next month or so we will be finding out who wants our money.......and any used car salesman tactics will be met with some not very good response (beware out there!). But what difference does it make for people with no sense of integrity about their job? I have very little faith, Acura and anyone else reading this, that we will have a 'pleasant' buying experience. How unfortunate for a product that deserves better. :3: |
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| EXCALIBUR |
renov8tress,
No sales guy/dealer here...just a happy MDX owner. Do I sense a bit of hostility in your post? Sure the MDX is a CAR. To my thinking, if you are going to buy a car, why not buy a car that you will be happy with? Of course, price is always negotiable and YMMV:4: |
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| Jeffly |
I don't know how you drew the conclusiong that dealers are still charging MSRP. just because the sales is up???:confused:
I think the news actually means more people are buying MDX because they do NOT need to pay MSRP now since there are plenty of choices now.
if you lower the price of anything, you will see the sales is up. (let alone MDX is a great car)
my experience here in boston tells me dealers are offering at least $1000 off MSRP. |
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| jonnygoodboy |
| umm, yeah, and didn't they manufacture more? |
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| m2pc |
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Originally posted by renov8tress
Maybe you are one of those salesguy/dealers trying to preserve your arrogance in getting MSRP or above, but it looks like those days are numbered.
It's a CAR, people, not a collector's item! And I have said before, the next trendy item will make the MDX just another car (Already there are many other competitors out there, especially those new station wagons!) And what are you all who paid MSRP or more going to say then? 'I had it when it was so cool I had to pay more money for it?' I'm glad there are so many people out there with so much disposable income that they can pay for 'cool' factor. Whoo hoo to you!
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renov8tress,
I don't think anyone is happy to pay MSRP and it is a 3 year old vehicle, so I don't people buy it for the 'cool factor' or at least I didn't. I bought on need and preference. I needed a larger vehicle and I had Acuras before, with a very happy and pleasant experience with the vehicles as well as the service provided. Yes a minivan would have been more practical, or a station wagon would have also met my needs. But the final decision was based on a balance of things and we are very happy in buying the MDX. I hate the idea of having paid MSRP, but if it really bothered me that much where I didn't find value in the purchase, I would have walked away and moved on to one of the many other choices. I would hope that the sales are due to the merits of the cars, because it certainly isn't due to the sales people.
Well, my two cents anywhoo and good luck in your future purchase. |
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| renov8tress |
Your reasons for getting the MDX sound exactly like ours. I am just freaked out by the amount of money this is going to cost. And for my money, I don't need an attitude from a car salesperson who will be deriving a benefit from what I (we) are paying him. The over MSRP thing primarily is unconscionable to me, demand be damned. But I guess that is what happens sometimes in a materialistic, capitalistic society.
I worked in retail a couple of Christmases ago, at a high end, family owned clothing store. I was just shocked at the number of women who would come in and drop $300 on a pair of pants or men who spend close to $1000 on a suit or even over $100 on a shirt. The difference was that the salespeople were professionals and treated their customers very well. Like the Acura salespeople, the vast majority of them couldn't even afford to shop at a place like that, but their job and their commission was based on perpetuating the sense of exclusivity and giving extra care to customers. Not a lot of superiority or arrogance there, those people know what they have to do to remain successful in selling and it shows. I actually went in to purchase some birthday gifts a short time ago (I think I have been in there twice since quitting-I can't afford to shop there on a regular basis, I am only a humble public servant) and I KNOW I was treated better by the saleswoman there than I will be dropping close to 40k on this car that I want for the safety of myself and my family and to have a pleasurable driving experience since I will be driving it a lot between daycare and grandparents and visits to the west and east coasts and work and all those other places having two kids and relatives all over the place will take you. (There's a run on sentence for ya all!)
I guess my point is that if you are selling something special, you should treat the customer and the item as something special. But I think that is a sentimental thing on my part. Most people don't hold that expectation. Call me old fashioned! :5: |
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| tomgb |
| And, FWIW, some of the posts I've seen indicate the resale or trade-in value of the first years' MDXs are doing pretty well. Maybe MSRP doesn't look so bad when you can get so much of your initial investment back on an MDX compared to the depreciation in many cars. |
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| alluu |
quote:
Originally posted by zubinh
I guess this is why Acura dealers are so cocky. They can afford to be.
Acura Sets All-Time April Sales Record
MDX Luxury SUV Also Enjoys Record-setting Month
TORRANCE, Calif., May 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Acura sales of 15,058 vehicles set a new record for the month of April according to American Honda Motor Co., Inc. Driven by record demand for the MDX luxury SUV and the strong debut of the all-new TSX sports sedan, April 2003 sales were up 1.9 percent compared to the
previous monthly record of 14,203 set in April of 2002.
"Despite some new entries in the segment, the MDX continues to connect with SUV buyers who demand performance, luxury and functionality," said DickColliver, executive vice president, sales. "And while the entry luxurysegment is extremely competitive, judging from the initial numbers, the TSX is
going to be a strong player in that segment."
MDX sales of 4,720 were up 30.2 percent compared to last year, and eclipsed the previous April record of 3,486 set in 2002. Year-to-date MDX sales climbed to 17,932, a 9.6 percent increase compared to last year.
That states that sales are up but does not account for supply. Here in the Bay Area, dealers are starting to have some stock but they are still unwilling to budge on price. Most members have been posting that demand/supply is slowly balancing out.
I have been looking for an MDX for over 2 months and was finally able to find a dealership in TX that would ship me a SBP Touring Nav for $38,620. That's the same price as dealers in the Bay Area are selling the Touring. Needless to say, I canceled my deposit with a local dealer and placed the order with the out of state dealer. Looking forward to my new X in 3 weeks. |
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| m2pc |
I agree that the sales experience stinks :(
Come to think of it, although I had great experiences with the cars and the service, I can't say the same for the actual sales/buying experience. Don't even get me started on the trade in :3: |
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| msu79gt82 |
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Originally posted by renov8tress
Your reasons for getting the MDX sound exactly like ours. I am just freaked out by the amount of money this is going to cost.
I thought ya'll aready had an MDX??:confused: |
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| m2pc |
Your right,
Got ours at the end of Feb 2003, love the ride, but can't get my wife to let me get the chrome side step special though:mad:
Maybe I can just put them on and she won't notice?:rolleyes: |
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| neide |
| I care much more the VALUE I get for my money, then whether or not I paid MSRP (its just some arbitrary number, after all). There are plenty of overpriced vehicles out there, that can be discounted and look like a great deal. IMHO, the MDX is quite fairly priced, and I think the reception its gotten in the marketplace validates that opinion. |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by m2pc
...Maybe I can just put them on and she won't notice?:rolleyes:
LOL, good luck!:p |
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| renov8r |
A large multi-brand dealer in Chicago's western 'burbs has a 'remote storage lot' near a place I used to work. Coincidentally there is an Acura store very near the lot.
Anyhow, last night I swung by the Acura store to see if they were brimming with MDXs. They weren't. They never are.
BUT oh, the remote lot!!!
Would belive 60++ Inifinitis(FX35 & 45 combined, I didn't bother checking each)??? More than two dozen Muranos!!
They had about a dozen Elements. Maybe ten CR-Vs. Probably around 250-300 vehicles total...
Wanna bet you get a "sweet deal" on the Murano or Infiniti? |
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| hockeyplayer |
| Just today I was speaking to a proud owner of a Chevy Avalanche that had spent 38,000 for it. I went for a ride with him after he told me it drove better than a Cadillac.Uh...yeah whatever.:rolleyes: People, the MDX is not perfect but you cannot deny that you are all happy with your purchase. I see you looking into store window fronts when you drive by trying to catch a glimpse of your "baby" or checking over your shoulder after you park it.(albeit most have a ton of time to make the "shoulder check" because of the long walk from the far end of the lot:) ) When you take into consideration the vehicles out there around the same price range the MDX looks and performs as good or better than 98% of them. Enjoy your vehicle, I know I do.:29: |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by renov8r
...Anyhow, last night I swung by the Acura store to see if they were brimming with MDXs. They weren't. They never are....
... Because they're already sold and drivers everywhere are already driving them...:cool: :4: |
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| BLACK-BLING-MDX |
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[It's a CAR, people, not a collector's item! And I have said before, the next trendy item will make the MDX just another car (Already there are many other competitors out there, especially those new station wagons!) And what are you all who paid MSRP or more going to say then? 'I had it when it was so cool I had to pay more money for it?' I'm glad there are so many people out there with so much disposable income that they can pay for 'cool' factor. Whoo hoo to you!
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OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! IT'S ONLY A CAR?! OMG OMG OMG!!! JUST ANOTHER CAR?!?! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!! MUST SHUT DOWN ACURA MDX FACTORY!!! :p |
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| greatscot |
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Originally posted by hockeyplayer
. . . I see you looking into store window fronts when you drive by trying to catch a glimpse of your "baby" or checking over your shoulder after you park it.(albeit most have a ton of time to make the "shoulder check" because of the long walk from the far end of the lot:) . . .
you been spyin' on me? :2: |
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| srpbep |
quote:
neide wrote:
MSRP? Who cares
Well, I think that there is more to it than this. neide indicated that what he gets for the money is more important. Well, IMHO:
** A Touring/Nav purchaser gets the same product as another Touring/Nav purchaser.
** If one purchaser can buy the same vehicle for $2,000 under MSRP (say like alluu did), then I believe that the purchaser did get better value for the money than one who paid MSRP for the same vehicle (didn't call it a truck!!).
Heck, $2,000 after taxes is still a lot of money to some of us folk. Heck, after buying our X at MSRP, $2,000 IS a lot of money because we have $42,000 less (CA tax/licencse adds another 10%). In fact, here in CA, saving $2,000 is really a savings of $2,200 in actuality. Damn, wish I hadn't thought of that, now I am even more jealous of alluu. Well, anyway, good job alluu because you do demonstrate that good old "try harder" does pay off!! |
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| EXCALIBUR |
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Originally posted by BLACK-BLING-MDX
OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! IT'S ONLY A CAR?! OMG OMG OMG!!! JUST ANOTHER CAR?!?! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!! MUST SHUT DOWN ACURA MDX FACTORY!!! :p
Calm down now, the MDX is really much more than a car. ;) |
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| alluu |
quote:
Originally posted by srpbep
Well, I think that there is more to it than this. neide indicated that what he gets for the money is more important. Well, IMHO:
** A Touring/Nav purchaser gets the same product as another Touring/Nav purchaser.
** If one purchaser can buy the same vehicle for $2,000 under MSRP (say like alluu did), then I believe that the purchaser did get better value for the money than one who paid MSRP for the same vehicle (didn't call it a truck!!).
Heck, $2,000 after taxes is still a lot of money to some of us folk. Heck, after buying our X at MSRP, $2,000 IS a lot of money because we have $42,000 less (CA tax/licencse adds another 10%). In fact, here in CA, saving $2,000 is really a savings of $2,200 in actuality. Damn, wish I hadn't thought of that, now I am even more jealous of alluu. Well, anyway, good job alluu because you do demonstrate that good old "try harder" does pay off!!
I meet the dealer through this forum and am really glad that I did. No negotiations. He just gave me a great price that they sell all their MDXs at. Very friendly and helpful. I just got my VIN emailed to me. I am thinking about starting a new thread so that others can share in the great savings and not have to deal with dealers who are rude and dont understand customer service. |
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| JimH |
| All this talk about paying MSRP, and dealings w/ rude dealers vs nice dealers, etc. boils down to the person purchasing the vehicle. You just have to know what you want, how much you want to work looking for a good price, dealer, etc. If a dealer is rude, you go to another dealer. If the price is higher than what you want to pay, you keep looking or wait for a better deal. Each area of the country is different. As an example, when I purchased my MDX in Oregon in Sept., 2002, I called all 5 dealers in Oregon (only 5 dealers in entire State!), and 2 of them had no MDX's in stock. All would not go below the MSRP price (supply/demand at that time), and I purchased one from the dealer I liked best. He threw in a few extras and I was happy. I would have loved to get the MDX for $ 1,000 less than MSRP, but there was no deal like that in Oregon at that time. I do think there are lots of dealers where they will go less than MSRP, but one needs to do their homework (or use this forum) to find them. |
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| diceboy |
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Originally posted by hockeyplayer
I see you looking into store window fronts when you drive by trying to catch a glimpse of your "baby" or checking over your shoulder after you park it.(albeit most have a ton of time to make the "shoulder check" because of the long walk from the far end of the lot:) )
Hockeyplayer, this is frightening. You've described my behavior almost exactly...:drool:
You must have seen me on the road. |
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| alluu |
quote:
Originally posted by JimH
All this talk about paying MSRP, and dealings w/ rude dealers vs nice dealers, etc. boils down to the person purchasing the vehicle. You just have to know what you want, how much you want to work looking for a good price, dealer, etc. If a dealer is rude, you go to another dealer. If the price is higher than what you want to pay, you keep looking or wait for a better deal. Each area of the country is different. As an example, when I purchased my MDX in Oregon in Sept., 2002, I called all 5 dealers in Oregon (only 5 dealers in entire State!), and 2 of them had no MDX's in stock. All would not go below the MSRP price (supply/demand at that time), and I purchased one from the dealer I liked best. He threw in a few extras and I was happy. I would have loved to get the MDX for $ 1,000 less than MSRP, but there was no deal like that in Oregon at that time. I do think there are lots of dealers where they will go less than MSRP, but one needs to do their homework (or use this forum) to find them.
Being fairly new to posting on this forum, is it okay to post information about the dealer where I ordered my MDX and what his pricing was. Hopefully others can share in the discount too. He will ship anywhere in the country. |
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| norcalchuck |
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Originally posted by srpbep
In fact, here in CA, saving $2,000 is really a savings of $2,200 in actuality.
Well, what people also forget re the adage "a penny saved is a penny earned", if you are in the 38% tax bracket at the margin (and you don't need to make big bucks to be in the 38% bracket) and assuming the car is for personal use and not partially or wholly a business expense, you had to make about $3300 BEFORE taxes to have that $2000 to spend. So, the equation is that saving 2 grand on a car is really a lot more to a wage earner. After tax dollars are VERY expensive dollars, especially in high State tax states. 38% is only Federal! |
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| EXCALIBUR |
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Originally posted by alluu
Being fairly new to posting on this forum, is it okay to post information about the dealer where I ordered my MDX and what his pricing was. Hopefully others can share in the discount too. He will ship anywhere in the country.
Please feel free to post away.:4: |
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