| mdxxxx |
I just saw it... one word... AWESOME! Joey Silver and the the Wachowskis Bros. out did themselves... I look foreward to seeing Matrix: Revolutions!
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| darkhelmet |
Hoping to go tomorrow right after work!:D
Two of my co-workers went to the 10pm show last night and they said it was great, one even went back to the 10am show this morning:rolleyes: Oh to be young, single and crazy again:2: |
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| laborlitigator |
| I'm going during lunch |
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| 2002 Acura MDX! |
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Originally posted by mdxxxx
I just saw it... one word... AWESOME! Joey Silver and the the Wachowskis Bros. out did themselves... I look foreward to seeing Matrix: Revolutions!
:5: :claphead:
Did you see the CTS and the Escalate EXT having a gun fight? I saw that in the preview. |
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| Blueflame |
| Will go this weekend. Loved the first one. |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by 2002 Acura MDX!
Did you see the CTS and the Escalate EXT having a gun fight? I saw that in the preview.
Yes... The freeway chase scene was unbelievable. Saw a lot of familliar places because a lot of the scenes were show here in downtown Oakland (Jack London Square) Highway 880, and Alameda... I recall a while back when they were shooting down here seeing 'the twins' during lunch... :cool: |
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| MK23666 |
Saw a program about the Matrix a few days ago ... it said they built the interstate/highway they filmed on to look like the one you mentioned. The on/off ramps ... everything ... built it on a closed old military base. Wouldn't have been nice if they had used the MDX in the movie instead!
Getting off topic for a moment ... I wonder if anyone thought of using the MDX in the Xmen movie? That would have been cool too! |
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| 2002 Acura MDX! |
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Originally posted by MK23666
Saw a program about the Matrix a few days ago ... it said they built the interstate/highway they filmed on to look like the one you mentioned. The on/off ramps ... everything ... built it on a closed old military base. Wouldn't have been nice if they had used the MDX in the movie instead!
Getting off topic for a moment ... I wonder if anyone thought of using the MDX in the Xmen movie? That would have been cool too!
Ya, that's what I heard about the highway. They said they couldn't find a highway that they like (in the whole USA!) so they have to build their own highway. The highway is about 1.8 miles long (if I didn't heard wrong). |
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| rlm32 |
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Originally posted by MK23666
Saw a program about the Matrix a few days ago ... it said they built the interstate/highway they filmed on to look like the one you mentioned. The on/off ramps ... everything ... built it on a closed old military base.
Yeah, I read that too. I think I read it cost them $1 million per quarter mile.:eek: |
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| mdxxxx |
quote:
Originally posted by MK23666
Saw a program about the Matrix a few days ago ... it said they built the interstate/highway they filmed on to look like the one you mentioned. The on/off ramps ... everything ... built it on a closed old military base. Wouldn't have been nice if they had used the MDX in the movie instead!..
Right. A portion of the freeway chase was filmed on the highway they built from scratch - near the Alameda Naval Air station. A lot of cars were destroyed in those scenes :eek: ... The tunnel scene was filmed in the Oakland/Alameda tube (Webster St.) ... |
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| xcel |
Hi All:
___Had to bump this one since I just saw it myself along with my wife, two sons, daughter, and one of the boys girlfriends. All 3 of us guys absolutely loved it :6: All three of the girl’s thought it sucked :8:
___Just go out and enjoy the flick. Boy do I wish they wouldn’t have set us all up for the third one like they did … I hear we only have to wait until October for the final. Anyone know if that is true or not?
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by xcel
...Boy do I wish they wouldn’t have set us all up for the third one like they did … I hear we only have to wait until October for the final. Anyone know if that is true or not?...
I heard November, maybe around Thanksgiving... |
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| laborlitigator |
| Simply an amazing movie |
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| mdxxxx |
| Oh, I almost forgot. For those who haven't seen the movie yet. Stick around after the end of the movie and credits. You'll get a peek at the The Matrix: Revolution. |
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| xcel |
Hi MDXxxx:
___You really did it this time! Now I am going to have to go back and see it again just to catch the Revolution preview after the credits ;)
___Good Luck and thanks for the tip.
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| ez600 |
Here's the Linky to the Trailer for Revolutions. Just saved you the 10 bucks you would have spent to see it again..;)
Revolutions Trailer |
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| jj_mdx |
thanks ez600
we missed the trailer last weekend... should have stayed a little bit longer after the movie...:p
can't wait for the third one... |
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| laborlitigator |
| Sweet trailer |
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| darkhelmet |
Love the movie and can't wait for the third one.
My wife and I went back yesterday and saw it again, you won't beleive how many things you see the second time that you didn't see the first time. Even stayed around for the trailer this time :2: |
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| 2002 Acura MDX! |
| The trailer seems to be a bit dark in the first 15 sec but the action part was definitely a plus. |
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| acurasandiego |
I got this e-mail from a friend explaining the movie:
I'll start here. First off, half your questions can be answered by this simple fact: there are 2 matrixes running side by side. The reason Neo chose door number two was because he realized this. The machines wouldn't just let humans sit around and destroy their civilization, as such, in the matrix 1, you have a choice to "wake up to the real world" or stay in it. This is where the oracle comes in. She was programmed to figure out how to keep humans in the matrix. With no choice human brains constantly kept trying to "wake up" from the dream they were in. They found the problem to be choice, and so they needed to implement on a subconscious level the choice to stay in the matrix 1. HOWEVER, if you chose to reject this notion, ie Morpheus Zion crew, then you were spit out into the "real world", otherwise known as another ****ing matrix system. When the matrix was perfect, no one would accept it. So to make humans stay in it, all that was needed to be done was to unbalance the equation, as Cornal Sanders pointed out. Hence, when you have an equation that isn't perfect, there will inherently be an anomaly of sorts. This is The One. So, to fix the problem that an anomaly would cause in the programming of the matrix, the Architect integrates the one back into the system, takes his code, and recreates a more efficient matrix - and starts it over. Its an upgrade.The reason that it would appear to you that the Oracle is suddenly not helping is easy, she was never really helping anyone. The entire point of the prophecy is to get the one to go to the origin so he can be re assimilated into the code, and the matrix improved. Subsequently, the entire point of the Zion matrix is to find the one - so that the anomaly can be contained, and the system stay stable.As to the actually scene with Neo and the Architect. The entire bit that Whitey was going on about was that if Neo chose door 1, he would select 7 men 16 women(?) from the matrix to be unplugged, and set "free" into the Zion matrix. (Hence why in the first movie morpheus said that the prophecy dictated that in the beginning "it was the Architect who freed the first of us.") That was the 6th time that the architect had re designed the matrix, and the previous Neo had chosen those people to be freed. If not going through door 1, then the anomalies would not be re integrated into the system. This poses the problem, as the system becomes unbalanced, eventually leading to its destruction. If you remember from your chemistry, an unbalanced system will increase in entropy until it is restarted or destroys itself. But that’s beside the point.Neo realized all this. Where as the other One's did not realize that Zion was indeed in another matrix too, Neo did. As such, he went to go save humanity or some ****. This is why "he could feel them now" and he has ****ing EMP super powers. Smith. Yeah. He was freed from the matrix system by Neo, well, because Neo killed him. Smith is now a roving program, and can duplicate himself at will. The deal with him is, he went into the body of a guy, and then downloaded himself into the Zion matrix, and that’s who you see at the very end of the movie on the stretcher (the guy who set off the EMP early, and sabotaged the counter attack plan dooha.) So anyways, it seems he will kill everyone in the end or something, looks to be good.So far as Neo being Jesus, that is all based around the fact that he is beyond the Matrix. See, the matrix, as pointed out by the Architect, relies on the fact that Humans chose to stay in it. If they reject it, then they will be sent to the Zion one so on and so forth. Neo simply chooses not to believe the matrix. "Your mind makes it real," yeah, only if you let it. Neo can see the code, and he just wont let ‘it make it real’. So yeah, he can literally do whatever the **** he wants. If he believes it enough, he can give life in the matrix, because if you can think it, and almost rewrite the matrix code as you go along, then **** you are god.----------------------------------------------The Architect - Hello, Neo.Neo - Who are you?The Architect - I am the Architect. I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.Neo - Why am I here?The Architect - Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.Neo - You haven't answered my question.The Architect - Quite right. Interesting. That was quicker than the others.*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Others? What others? How many? Answer me!"*The Architect - The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the sixth version.*Again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Five versions? Three? I've been lied too. This is bull****."Neo: There are only two possible explanations: either no one told me, or no one knows.The Architect - Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly's systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.*Once again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "You can't control me! **** you! I'm going to kill you! You can't make me do anything!"*Neo - Choice. The problem is choice.*The scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the Architects room*The Architect - The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.Neo - The Oracle.The Architect - Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.Neo - This is about Zion.The Architect - You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.Neo - Bull****.*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Bull****!"*The Architect - Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.*Scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the Architects room.*The Architect - The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.Neo - You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive.The Architect - There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world.*The Architect presses a button on a pen that he is holding, and images of people from all over the matrix appear on the monitors*The Architect - It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the one. While the others experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-a-vis, love.*Images of Trinity fighting the agent from Neos dream appear on the monitors*Neo - Trinity.The Architect - Apropos, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.Neo - No!The Architect - Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning, and end. There are two doors. |
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| acurasandiego |
| The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.*Neo walks to the door on his left*The Architect - Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.Neo - If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.The Architect - We won't. |
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| mdxxxx |
| Facinating, acurasandiego... very interesting. |
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| mdxxxx |
| Going to take the Ms. to see it tonight (she hasn't seen it yet). No doubt I'll see things I missed the first time. :4: |
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| xcel |
Hi Acurasandiego:
___After reading your guide, now I understand how Neo blew out the Sentinel’s in the end. I had a problem with that until your update cleared it up. I also had a problem with the Ghost’s because they came out of nowhere with no explanation and were killed (possibly?) with the car explosion.
___Thanks for the info and as always, Good Luck.
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| theXman |
I saw the Matrix Reloaded twice and checked out a forum, but still not sure what the real plot is.
I read about the "matrix within matrix" theory but not totally agreed.
Check out this link , it provides an interesting view.
Let me know what you think. :cool: |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by theXman
I saw the Matrix Reloaded twice and checked out a forum, but still not sure what the real plot is.
I read about the "matrix within matrix" theory but not totally agreed.
Check out this link , it provides an interesting view.
Let me know what you think. :cool:
That is quite an analysis..a little bit beyond what the movie was saying to me, but I suppose one can read a lot into anything. On the whole it is an interesting read.
Just saw the movie this afternoon. It was very impressive. Unless you are very hyperactive, or have a very small bladder, you will be become quite attached to your seat! |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by theXman
I saw the Matrix Reloaded twice and checked out a forum, but still not sure what the real plot is.
I read about the "matrix within matrix" theory but not totally agreed.
Check out this link , it provides an interesting view.
Let me know what you think. :cool:
Fascinating hypothesis. The story line extrapolation is plausible. Hmmm.. |
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| JayPogi |
| Saw it today. Well its great but still kinda confused me. Guess I'll just wait 4 the DVD release to watch it again. Man, I wish I could pause the movie to figure some things out first b4 proceeding. Maybe I'll browse the internet 4 some answers.:cool: |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by JayPogi
Saw it today. Well its great but still kinda confused me. Guess I'll just wait 4 the DVD release to watch it again. Man, I wish I could pause the movie to figure some things out first b4 proceeding. Maybe I'll browse the internet 4 some answers.:cool:
I saw M3 yesterday. Very interesting, very inteligent. Of course there is a plethora of theories and interpretation regarding the story. Check out these discussions....
http://homenetz.com/matrixreloaded/ |
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| texrb |
I have seen Matrix & Matrix Reloaded but haven't seen "revolutions" yet. I read the local paper's review (C-) and it pretty much said that except for a terrific fight scene, the movie was a waste of time.
I found "reloaded" to be lacking the intensity & quality of the first movie - but still entertaining. I am just wondering if "revolutions" is really that bad or if the reviewer just didn't like it.
mdxxxx - you obviously enjoyed it (thanks for the link too - but since I haven't seen the movie, I didn't read the posts).
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| laborlitigator |
I just saw it too and was amazed by the battle scenes. The ending was purposely vague and leads to many interpretations as to the fate of man/machine, Neo, the Architect, etc.
I do disagree with many of the movie reviewers blasting it. It was a very good film. |
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| DUBYA123 |
the movie was alright, compared to the first two, it didnt square off right, I think they got a little carried away with the graphics, I was
dissapointed on the role of morpheus, he played a big part in the first 2 movies then on the last one he has a sidekick's sidekick role
If you didnt watch the first two movies, and the animatrix, your lost in some scenes. like the scene where neo and trinity see the sun,
overall the movie got a B- for me
how about that cheezy ending, dam |
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| JayPogi |
It was a good movie (revolutions) but what I was looking 4 was the conclusion. You should have seen the faces of the other movie goers right when the lights came on, they were dissappointed as I am. What kind of ending is that? Ran out of ideas? I doubt Keanu Reeves himself can explain what the hell the movie was about. Now that the hype (to me) is over, all I can say is that the last 2 movies destroyed the 1st. (remember highlander?) The "mystique" is lost and the "WB" are mortals after all.
PS. DVD Matrix should come out with POP UPS (as in VH1 pop ups) on them.:rolleyes: |
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| DaleB |
Sorry to digress, plan to see Revolutions this week. But anybody see Kill Bill Vol. 1? I am sure acurasandiego's friend could analyze it in about 2 sentences.
But it was a kick..and very Tarentino with a twist. Made me anxious for the sequel! |
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| zafer |
| Just finished watching the Matrix Reloaded - over 3 days, was bored out of my mind, couldn't stay awake more than and hour of it at a time. What a dumb and boring movie..... Up there in my list with Brad $hitt's ? Years in Tibet. I would have left within the first 15 min. if we were at a theater. The 2nd DVD - The Making - was 100 times better :o |
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| A2MDXer |
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Originally posted by zafer
Just finished watching the Matrix Reloaded - over 3 days, was bored out of my mind, couldn't stay awake more than and hour of it at a time. What a dumb and boring movie..... Up there in my list with Brad $hitt's ? Years in Tibet. I would have left within the first 15 min. if we were at a theater. The 2nd DVD - The Making - was 100 times better :o
Zafer, we must have different tastes in movies. While Reloaded was not as good as the first, I really liked it. Moreover, I am not a Brad Pitt fan but I really like 7 years in Tibet (of course, I didn't see that in the theater and yes, it's a long movie). Oh well, I respect your opinion anyway. By the way, the link you provided above was hilarious. Thanks. Very creative use to convey the message. :D |
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| zafer |
| ...well actually to be honest, I really didn't see 7 yrs in Tibet in its entirety. I fell asleep within the 1st .5hr, then saw bits and pieces as friends elbowed me to stop snorinn.... :rolleyes: |
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| xcel |
Hi All:
___I saw it with my son ~ 2 weeks ago and it wasn’t nearly as good as the first one. The Second one was just Ok. In other words, it’s a renter but I wouldn’t waste my dollars again. I just wish Neo would have jumped into the Architect and been done with all of the garbage left over after number 2. Maybe Neo could have then become more powerful then the Architect and redesigned the Matrix to fail for the Robot’s and not the humans? As it stands, I don’t think anyone escaped the Matrix at the end of number 3? Choice was given to programs (ala little girl and the colored sky) but the Matrix still stood with humans entrapped in both the main Matrix and the Zion Matrix.
___As for the ending, I am not sure where Neo and Trinity went given the battle scenes where he was deflecting the explosives and the flight above the blacked out earth? They were in between the main and Zion Matrix’s but were still in the Matrix, right? If so, it ended nothing. Sentinels are just programs in the Zion Matrix so only the humans that thought they died in the attack on Zion actually died. Thousands of human exterminations but 0 losses for the actual machines the way I see it. They even got NEO to rid them of Agent Smith! This is exactly the way the machines would like it to be.
___Oh well, it was a fun series but it got corny with the Zion group dancing in number 2 and the goofy Neo as a sacrifice? for the Zion Matrix at the end of number 3 if that is what actually happened?
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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