| shootist |
I'm sitting out on my deck in my 'jamies: Sun is bright, 72, gentle breeze. Watching Mrs. Shootist tend her beautiful garden.
AND I'M CHATTING ON THE INTERNET! Laptop is happy on batteries, WiFi card is happily talking to the AP router in the house. This is definitely the way it's supposed to be.
Yes, life is good. |
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| jswift2000 |
| yeah... wifi rules. I just wired my house with CAT 5E (pain in the ass but I had all the equipment) and I need to install an AP so I can take the laptop outside. Nice one. |
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| Mocking-DX |
COOL
also have laptops, one for me and another for my wife
Quetion
what do I need to use that WiFI technology for my laptops like shootist
what hardware/sofware do i need
unfortunately i'm still using dial up
tahnks guys |
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| norcalchuck |
quote:
Originally posted by shootist
I'm sitting out on my deck in my 'jamies: Sun is bright, 72, gentle breeze. Watching Mrs. Shootist tend her beautiful garden.
AND I'M CHATTING ON THE INTERNET! Laptop is happy on batteries, WiFi card is happily talking to the AP router in the house. This is definitely the way it's supposed to be.
Yes, life is good.
What type of encryption/security are you using to prevent unauthorized access? |
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| cardingtr |
| When getting Wi-Fi, get the newer 802.11g not 802.11b. Range is farther, speed is faster so when signal fades, you still have a lot of speed to spare. We tried it ourselves, I am sharing DSL with my neighbor and never have problem with signal in the first place. |
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| Wazowski |
quote:
Originally posted by cardingtr
I am sharing DSL with my neighbor ....
Does your neighbor know that your sharing his DSL connection?! (JK! :p) |
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| jswift2000 |
quote:
Originally posted by Mocking-DX
COOL
also have laptops, one for me and another for my wife
Quetion
what do I need to use that WiFI technology for my laptops like shootist
what hardware/sofware do i need
unfortunately i'm still using dial up
tahnks guys
Broadband connection (DSL, Cable, etc), Wireless Laptop cards, a wireless router (linksys, netgear) or wireless access point if you already have a router and you're all set. I would buy 802.11G which is faster than 802.11B and backwards compatable. You should see whats out there for security to prevent people from jumping on the connection. Good luck. |
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| shootist |
quote:
Originally posted by norcalchuck
What type of encryption/security are you using to prevent unauthorized access?
Netgear AP/Router/Print server/ Hardware Firewall, with 128 bit WEP enabled. Few little touches, too, like a scrambled network ID and full-length scrambled password.
I'm very security conscious: I use the home network as the front end into a corporate 168-bit VPN tunnel, and I don't want to get spoofed on the way in. |
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| jonnygoodboy |
I just installed an 802.11g system at home. That's one of several reasons I haven't been active on acuramdx.org for a few weeks (Waikiki had something to do with it, too). Setup is a snap. The easiest order is: 1) set up a PC with internet access (assuming you're going to want to share internet on your wi-fi); 2) now install the wireless router between your internet access (e.g., DSL or cable modem). If you do it the other way around, you may have to screw around with setting more.
Don't forget to enable security! The security features steal some bandwidth, so all the equipment seems to come with security disabled. Depending on what you use your PCs for, lack of security may or may not be a big deal, but you should make the decision consciously. |
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| zafer |
quote:
Originally posted by shootist
I'm sitting out on my deck in my 'jamies: Sun is bright, 72, gentle breeze. Watching Mrs. Shootist tend her beautiful garden.
AND I'M CHATTING ON THE INTERNET! Laptop is happy on batteries, WiFi card is happily talking to the AP router in the house. This is definitely the way it's supposed to be.
Yes, life is good.
Liar! ;) |
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| nwaring |
I have had both, B and G. The new G version is definitely better, at least in my house. I had the B version at home and also in my daughter’s apartment. A couple of weeks ago her apartment complex took a lighting hit and it took out the DSL router, the Nic card, and the Linksys wireless router. I gave her my B version stuff and put in new G version at home. The signal strength and the speed are much better when using the laptop in the same spots as before.
BTW…Does anyone know or do they make any kind of surge protector, RJ11 style, which will not interfere with the DSL. I probably ought to just try one.
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| zafer |
quote:
Originally posted by norcalchuck
What type of encryption/security are you using to prevent unauthorized access?
quote:
Originally posted by hammermdx
Checkout network stumbler, a very cool utility to let you see hot spots
Enabling all the highest security possible might still not help you from getting GAWDed and/or WARchalked (including not broadcasting your SSID), but having one of these power on/off your AP during obvious no load hours might help. |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by nwaring
I have had both, B and G. The new G version is definitely better, at least in my house. I had the B version at home and also in my daughter’s apartment. A couple of weeks ago her apartment complex took a lighting hit and it took out the DSL router, the Nic card, and the Linksys wireless router. I gave her my B version stuff and put in new G version at home. The signal strength and the speed are much better when using the laptop in the same spots as before.
BTW…Does anyone know or do they make any kind of surge protector, RJ11 style, which will not interfere with the DSL. I probably ought to just try one.
Niles
May want to check out Panamax.com |
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| renov8r |
First, I am not a "free as in speech" nor "free as in beer" zealot of any kind -- I use Linux and FreeBSD occasionally, as work demands but I also think PAID FOR operating systems and applications make a lot of sense.
Second, I do PAY comcast an ungodly sum every month for them to provide a reasonably reliable internet & email service.
But when it comes to a wireless security, I just don't see the 'paranoia' that others do. I have 802.11b cards for my laptop(s) and an access point hooked up to the cable modem. I have stumbled/ 'war driven' (in much the same way as the Lt Col described on his commuting routes). There are tens of thousand of home access points that I could probably slurp off of. I have piggy backed off a connection or two while I wanted to quickly check on an email and I was in my vehicle. I think you would be hard pressed to call this "theft of service" because the provider almost certainly was Comcast, and they were almost certainly being paid by the homeowner'subscriber I was piggybacking off of...
OK, now to the nitty gritty -- I think that if cable companies and DSL resellers REALLY want to enforce "metered service" ( a concept I find abhorrent) then a) subscribers like me will have to be held ridiculously responsible my downstream WiFi security b) more criminal activity will be fostered.
I think metered service would be a HUGE negative to the internet. Companies that TRULY DO create new markets/new WEALTH (like ebay) would dry up and blow away. "Places" like our acuramdx.org would be ghost towns...
BUT BUT BUT, what about 'hackers'??? Well, I have been online since about 1981 (yes I still have my original 300 baud acoustic modem in a box in my mom's basement) and I know a bit about "the dark side". There are a very, very small number of truly messed up folks how MIGHT do something malicious to a system they should not access, (the same way that some sicko might drag something into the path of train to derail it...) but the VAST majority of even talented hard-core blackhats are NOT out to mess with anybody. They are "lookers not touchers".
No, I am not naive. My personal dev systems (like my Sun Ultra 10 & other highend boxes) are never attached wirelessly. I don't network those systems to the my laptops unnecessarily. I connect to my employers' systems securely.
BUT I DON'T care if somebody driving down my block sips a bit of the bandwidth that I pay for -- well that is not entirely true, I do put a bit of grease on that first step of the security stairway, but anybody who is not a total 7am3r will carefully step right through that...
BTW shmoo sucks wigle rocks...
quote:
Originally posted by zafer
Enabling all the highest security possible might still not help you from getting GAWDed and/or WARchalked (including not broadcasting your SSID), but having one of these power on/off your AP during obvious no load hours might help.
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| shootist |
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BUT I DON'T care if somebody driving down my block sips a bit of the bandwidth that I pay for --
It's not the thieft of bandwidth I care about at all. It's the theft of my personal information, including financial information, that could be catastrophic.
If you WiFi without security, you're broadcasting every password you enter in the clear to a warchalker.
In addition, unanticipated access into my company's network through my laptop would be unacceptable for many reasons. While it's well-protected, there are still signon routines that I won't broadcast in the clear. |
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| zafer |
quote:
Originally posted by shootist
If you WiFi without security, you're broadcasting every password you enter in the clear to a warchalker.
Not exactly. If you have no WiFi security set, but are using ssh instead of telnet, or entering IDs/passwd, etc. into an encryption enabled web site, they are still transmitted over the air encrypted.
btw, what type of display does your laptop have that you can see in the bright sun?? |
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| shootist |
quote:
Originally posted by zafer
btw, what type of display does your laptop have that you can see in the bright sun??
Just a 15 inch Dell Inspiron 8500. Screen can't, of course, have the sun reflecting off it.
Zafer- an awful lot can be exposed quickly if you're not practicing safe wifi. Individual web sites may have ssl, but there can be many wireless doorways into your storage through the network set up. |
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| rjmitche |
No mention of MAC Address filtering yet? I've got WEP enabled as well as only allowing my 'known' wireless adapters access to my wireless access point. I realize that MAC addresses can be spoofed but, isn't everything pretty much just an effort to slow down a would-be intruder/hacker or, better yet, diverting them to an 'easier target'? (This is beginning to sound like the discussion we had on wheel locks a few months back. ;))
renov8r - stay away from my neighborhood. ;)
Actually, I never considered 'war-driving' the neighborhood but, I bet it would be interesting. Hmmmm.... with a wireless CF card in my PocketPC (and the right software), I could just walk around see what's available/open.:12: |
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| xcel |
Hi Rjmitche:quote:
with a wireless CF card in my PocketPC (and the right software) …
___PocketPC Thoughts posted an article about a PDA SW WiFi sniffer a week or two ago if I remember correctly. You might just want to have a look ;)
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| xcel |
Hi Rjmitche:
___I did not find the exact article but did find a HW sniffer ($22.00) and found out the WM 2003 has its own version of a sniffer albeit less capable built right into the OS. Take a look at this thread over at PocketPC Thoughts entitled Find Hotspots Even More Quickly for more information. I think you will enjoy the read …
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| renov8r |
I do use MAC filtering (that is the "grease on the first step") and I do know exactly what it takes to spoof an MAC address and I agree that it just a way to make dedicated no-goodniks find an easier target...
With broadband rates as high as they are it makes great sense to know who else in your neighborhood has a WAP & politely suggest that it may make sense to "pool ones resources" -- in fact small business DSL rates (including symmetric) are falling about as fast as cable rates are rising...
I don't bother using a wireless packet sniffer (like air snort) because I know from even using wired packet sniffers/protocol analyzers you see lots & lots of worthless JUNK for the tiny bit of interesting stuff you do encounter...
Believe me, there are FAR easier ways to "steal" someone's identity.
The ambulatory/PDA version of wardriving is sometimes called warwalking/warstrolling/warstumbling -- the last bit is most accurate because you will trip on cracks/twigs if you watch the screen too intently! |
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| JTM |
quote:
Originally posted by nwaring
I have had both, B and G. The new G version is definitely better, at least in my house. I had the B version at home and also in my daughter’s apartment. A couple of weeks ago her apartment complex took a lighting hit and it took out the DSL router, the Nic card, and the Linksys wireless router. I gave her my B version stuff and put in new G version at home. The signal strength and the speed are much better when using the laptop in the same spots as before.
Niles
I only have 11B in the house, so I can't compare between B and G. Maybe you are right in this, G is better than B in range. But for sure it has much better speed (transfer).
For people who are still using B (like myself), if you feel your range is short and get disconnect all the time. I do suggest to check the firmware of your router. Make sure you have the MOST CURRENT version of firmware. When I first setup my router (SMC Barricade) early last year, I will need to reset it at least once per day. (Disconnect from network, then re-connect) But once I update the firmware, I never need to reset it anymore and it works great with all PCs and Laptop. |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by shootist
I'm sitting out on my deck in my 'jamies:
Yes, life is good.
I can certainly appreciate the life of leisure. You attire and exact location, or other functional aspects at a given moment (ref. link) may be more information than we really need. :D |
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| hockeyplayer |
hey guys...I am thinking of buying a wireless card for my wife's pda. She uses her pda downtown all the time and was wondering if there are any benefits to getting one. How does one work with regards to a pda and the internet?? I would like to get it for her but unsure what she could do with it. Could you please let me know if it is worthwhile and if it is please post how to's for using wireless in a downtown atmosphere. Are you able to get on the internet with a pda?? Or should I just get a wireless card for her laptop?? Let me know thanks.
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| DaleB |
Of course they upgraded the G to 108 Mps a month after I buy a Netgear setup. But at 54 Mps I can't complain.
But when it comes to cordless phones, wifi and microwave ovens, what genius decided they should all use 2.4 Ghz at some point?
I guess so we would go out spend more money and change at least one system like cordless phones, to 5.8 Ghz or back down to 900 mhz so it does not interfere.
I'm surprised they don't have you sign a contract when you buy a 5.8 Ghz phone, which I have no desire for, consdering what they charge for them. My 900 Mhz still works fine for most anything.
A poor job of FCC frequency allocations? Dumb! |
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| mdxxxx |
quote:
Originally posted by DaleB
...I guess so we would go out spend more money and change at least one system like cordless phones, to 5.8 Ghz or back down to 900 mhz so it does not interfere.
I'm surprised they don't have you sign a contract when you buy a 5.8 Ghz phone, which I have no desire for, consdering what they charge for them. My 900 Mhz still works fine for most anything.
A poor job of FCC frequency allocations? Dumb!
Aw come on DaleB, go ahead and upgrade to 5.8 Ghz... I'ts not expensive at all. I have the Uniden TRU5885-2, and I'm happy with it... |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by mdxxxx
Aw come on DaleB, go ahead and upgrade to 5.8 Ghz... I'ts not expensive at all. I have the Uniden TRU5885-2, and I'm happy with it...
Probably the last nail in the hi tech coffin I am burying myself in. They are nice looking, but a PVR is taking the lead. |
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| TheWorm |
quote:
Originally posted by DaleB
...a PVR is taking the lead.
You'll wonder how you ever watched TV without it. Still difficult to explain and the marketing folks can't articulate it either, but it really does "change the way you watch TV". 10 out of 10 from us! |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by TheWorm
You'll wonder how you ever watched TV without it. Still difficult to explain and the marketing folks can't articulate it either, but it really does "change the way you watch TV". 10 out of 10 from us!
So I hear....
I am a Dish user, and they say they have a great deal for me if I order one by the end of the month.
Oddly, the 508 and the newer 510 are listed at the same price. I will talk to them soon. |
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| rfowkes |
Dale,
I'm a DISH user too and I'd be lost without my 721 and 501. In fact, I'd already have a 921 if I wasn't still pissed with Dish for dropping CBS a few weeks back. Even though it was only for a couple of days it shows how investing too much in equipment for one provider can lock you in and stifle your options.
But I agree - PVRs are revolutionary, not just evolutionary, in the pantheon of couch potatoism.
And on the 5.8GHz phones - while the Unidens pictured are nice, you are limited to two units with that particular model. I went with AT&T 5.8er's since you can have 4 or more units spaced out if you have a need for more than 2 units.
My 2 cents. |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by rfowkes
Dale,
I'm a DISH user too and I'd be lost without my 721 and 501. In fact, I'd already have a 921 if I wasn't still pissed with Dish for dropping CBS a few weeks back. Even though it was only for a couple of days it shows how investing too much in equipment for one provider can lock you in and stifle your options.
But I agree - PVRs are revolutionary, not just evolutionary, in the pantheon of couch potatoism.
And on the 5.8GHz phones - while the Unidens pictured are nice, you are limited to two units with that particular model. I went with AT&T 5.8er's since you can have 4 or more units spaced out if you have a need for more than 2 units.
My 2 cents.
Thanks for the info, it's appreciated. The phone is not as essential, but I have always thought PVRs were captivating and probably even less essential....but the rationalizations are being churned in the brain.....as we speak.
I would not be too hard on Dish...they always seem to bounce back. About the time it looks like a competitor has the drop on them they find an out. I know something about their technology, having worked in related areas for one of their primary satellite contractors Lockheed-Martin. I can tell you they pour tons of money into R&D.
It is no coincidence LM has a major payload launcher facility in Colorado. Sadly mislabelled a weapons factory in the farce movie "Bowling for Colombine"...standing up and arguing against ignorance is not what LM does, they just go about their business.
I do not know how healthy Dish is financially, other than what I read in the paper.
Some complain they 'wrestle' their customers to help fight their battles with tv station owners, but they seem responsive to suggestions also. I think they do a good job overall, and never barrage me with unwanted solicitations by phone or mail, and not even e-mail that I can remember. I can appreciate that too. |
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| rfowkes |
Interesting stuff. Don't get me wrong. I prefer the DISH technology to the DirecTV technology (I have both since only DirecTV has the YES network). My only gripe is that I didn't like being caught in the middle so I'm rethinking investing a lot of money for a 921 right now.
I'll probably wait for things to shake out a bit. I'm also hoping that a Echostar Tivo-like interface will be out there some time in the future. Like you said, Dish will probably get that done at some point and I can wait. In the meanwhile I'm enjoying what I have. (The HD offerings are spectacular.)
If Dish ever offers a leasing option on the 921 unit then I'm there in a NY minute. |
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| TheWorm |
quote:
Originally posted by hockeyplayer
hey guys...I am thinking of buying a wireless card for my wife's pda. She uses her pda downtown all the time and was wondering if there are any benefits to getting one. How does one work with regards to a pda and the internet?? I would like to get it for her but unsure what she could do with it. Could you please let me know if it is worthwhile and if it is please post how to's for using wireless in a downtown atmosphere. Are you able to get on the internet with a pda?? Or should I just get a wireless card for her laptop?? Let me know thanks.
Hock
We never addressed Hock's question so I'm bringing back up... |
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| m2pc |
Verizon is rolling out a national broadband wireless service
http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/40781
I think the are starting with the DC area and somewhere on the West Coast for initial rollout.
Differs from wifi in that it is a Wide Area as opposed to localized hot spots and I think the throughputs are higher. I don't know if you can justify the $80 / per month though, unless you are always on the go and hooked onto the internet. |
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| hockeyplayer |
quote:
Originally posted by TheWorm
We never addressed Hock's question so I'm bringing back up...
Thanks Worm-O..... Still no replies though:( |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by hockeyplayer
Thanks Worm-O..... Still no replies though:(
Sorry for the digression. Are we talking using the PDA while she walks around, etc. in the car? or? An wireless internet system that serves a community?
Or a Mobile-T system....where she bops into a Starbucks and relaxes while checking her email, etc.? Those are the ones I am most familiar with, and apparently work quite well for that purpose. |
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| hockeyplayer |
She had a Compac PDA and I was wondering if I got her a wireless card what she could do with it?? I do not have a wireless router in the house. ( I hard-wired the house). Would she be able to surf the internet and check emails by the pda??? I have no idea what it would look like?? Would the internet that she would receive be similar to a cell phone?? text only??
Thanks
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| DaleB |
She should get graphics too....I don't have my PDA (Sony Clie) adapted for an internet connection, though I could do it.
But the PC based one's like the Compaq lend themselves very well to a such a connection.
There must be folks doing this that have not responded.
Now, with regards to your home, are all your 4 ports used on your router? If not a wireless access point can be added to a port. It looks like another pc to the router. And a wireless pda, pc, laptop, etc., or all 3...can be used right along with the wired devices.
I keep my old W98 dell hardwired. While the other 2 wireless machines, one desktop, and one laptop, work off a wireless access point.
If you do have all ports utilized, you can get a new router with wireless built in, plus the 4 hardware ports you need.
Hope this helps, and someone else will jump on with more info on the PDA interface. |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by TheWorm
You'll wonder how you ever watched TV without it. Still difficult to explain and the marketing folks can't articulate it either, but it really does "change the way you watch TV". 10 out of 10 from us!
Both you and rfowkes are absolutely correct! I made the jump today!
I was looking on the Dishnetwork website and they were selling both the older 508 and the newer 510 models for $299 as standalone recievers/PVRs.
I figured I don't need the 2 tuner capability against how much I watch, etc.
Anyway, while reviewing the specs this pop up comes on saying current customers can save a lot by calling Dish by the end of March.
So I called.
I got the 510 for $99! Additional $4.98 a month for the 'feature'.
But overall not a bad deal at all. 100 hrs of recorded programming is beyond my needs, but I always like reserves. |
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| hockeyplayer |
| ok...seeing as the outpouring of answers of my question has been overwhelming to say the least:rolleyes: I have gone ahead and purchased a sleeve for my wife's Ipaq that adds an extra battry and a pcmcia card slot. Has anyone had any experience going this route to achieve wireless on a pda?? I figure I can transfer the wireless pc card back and forth from laptop to pda. I can do this right?? Will check back in a onth for any responses:) |
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| mdxxxx |
quote:
Originally posted by hockeyplayer
ok...seeing as the outpouring of answers of my question has been overwhelming to say the least:rolleyes: I have gone ahead and purchased a sleeve for my wife's Ipaq that adds an extra battry and a pcmcia card slot. Has anyone had any experience going this route to achieve wireless on a pda?? I figure I can transfer the wireless pc card back and forth from laptop to pda. I can do this right?? Will check back in a onth for any responses:)
hockeyplayer,
I wish I had a definitive answer for you. While I've purchased a WAP, pcmcia card, battery sleave for my Ipaq a long time ago. All those components are still in their boxes, I havent had the time to get to use them. I agree that theoretically, they should work perfectly, but I have not confirmed its application... I look forward to hearing about your project...:4: |
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| nightguy |
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -— Police have arrested a man for using someone else's wireless Internet network in one of the first criminal cases involving this fairly common practice.
Benjamin Smith III, 41, faces a pretrial hearing this month following his April arrest on charges of unauthorized access to a computer network, a third-degree felony.
Police say Smith admitted using the Wi-Fi signal from the home of Richard Dinon, who had noticed Smith sitting in an SUV outside Dinon's house using a laptop computer.
The practice is so new that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement doesn't even keep statistics, according to the St. Petersburg Times, which reported Smith's arrest this week.
Innocuous use of other people's unsecured Wi-Fi networks is common. But experts say that illegal use often goes undetected, such as people sneaking on others' networks to traffic in child pornography, steal credit card information and send death threats.
Security experts say people can prevent such access by turning on encryption or requiring passwords, but few bother or even know how to do so.
Wi-Fi, short for Wireless Fidelity, has enjoyed prolific growth since 2000. Millions of households have set up wireless home networks that allow people to use the Web from their backyards but also reach the house next door or down the street.
Prosecutors declined to comment, and a working phone number could not be located for Smith. |
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| HARDROCK |
| So, laying in my bed using my laptop to surf the WEB using the WIFI signal from my neighbor downstairs can get me arrested? I'm already paying $50 per month for broadband - that should be the crime! If my neighbor doesn't care/chose to install any security on his WIFI, I don't feel bad or guilty about using it when convenient. |
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| cardingtr |
My thoughts too. If my neighbor has unsecured wifi and Im surfing off his broadband, but outside his property, I don't think it's illegal. There is no intrusion, I will not hack into his system so I don't think I've done something wrong.
If my neighbor don't want anybody to use it, secure it or stop it from transmitting to my property or public property.
If somebody accuses me of such act I will fight it. |
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| nightguy |
| I do get the feeling there might be more to this story... |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by cardingtr
My thoughts too. If my neighbor has unsecured wifi and Im surfing off his broadband, but outside his property, I don't think it's illegal. There is no intrusion, I will not hack into his system so I don't think I've done something wrong.
If my neighbor don't want anybody to use it, secure it or stop it from transmitting to my property or public property.
If somebody accuses me of such act I will fight it.
Whether you think it is wrong is really of little consequence. The point is that it is illegal and that is all that is important. Fact remains that you are benefiting from someone elses purchase without his knowledge. If you think it is no big deal, why don't you ask your neighbor for his permission? Its a shame that your neighbor needs a lock to keep you out of his property. |
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| cardingtr |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
.......... Its a shame that your neighbor needs a lock to keep you out of his property.
But what if his signal is in my property? :D
I didn't know who is it or which neighbor? Unlocked?
It's a shame that neighbor didn't keep it in his property or at least lock it.
Don't cry foul if you can't even basically secure your network.
There is no intrusion if there is no break in your property. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by cardingtr
But what if his signal is in my property? :D
I didn't know who is it or which neighbor? Unlocked?
It's a shame that neighbor didn't keep it in his property or at least lock it.
Don't cry foul if you can't even basically secure your network.
There is no intrusion if there is no break in your property.
Your logic here is really very weak. Just because your neighbor does not feel the need to "lock" his wireless network does not give you the right to "jump on". You are being enriched by someone else's expense, without their knowledge. Assume that you know who's network you are on (and I assume you, in fact, do) would you simply ask them for their permission? I assume they would grant it, after all, you are doing nothing wrong.
Let me answer that for you. No, you would not ask, because in reality you know full well that it is not ok. |
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| cardingtr |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Your logic here is really very weak. Just because your neighbor does not feel the need to "lock" his wireless network does not give you the right to "jump on". You are being enriched by someone else's expense, without their knowledge. Assume that you know who's network you are on (and I assume you, in fact, do) would you simply ask them for their permission? I assume they would grant it, after all, you are doing nothing wrong.
Let me answer that for you. No, you would not ask, because in reality you know full well that it is not ok.
I will:D |
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| HARDROCK |
So my neighbor plants an orange tree near our property line. Are you saying I can't eat the fruit that falls on my side of the fence (or enjoy the shade the tree provides)?
I'm already paying for broadband Internet access and don't feel I'm "stealing" anything. Sometimes my neighbor even plays music I really enjoy listening to - should I cover my ears and try not to listen? |
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| JL_SS |
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Originally posted by HARDROCK
So my neighbor plants an orange tree near our property line. Are you saying I can't eat the fruit that falls on my side of the fence (or enjoy the shade the tree provides)?
I'm already paying for broadband Internet access and don't feel I'm "stealing" anything. Sometimes my neighbor even plays music I really enjoy listening to - should I cover my ears and try not to listen?
Has your neighbor signed a contract with the tree provider stating that they will be responsible for misuse of the apples or shade?
A more appropriate analogy would be can you legally intercept your your neighbors cell/wireless phone calls? |
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| ByeByeChrysler |
I'm not a computer guy and don't understand reading all these posts.
here's my issue, we have a Linksys G router on the 3rd floor and added the card to the computer in the basement.
the signal is weak, shows 'low' and sometimes 'good' with the figure reaching 58 for the max. strength.
How can I improve this as the internet is slow loading some pages.
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| JL_SS |
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Originally posted by ByeByeChrysler
I'm not a computer guy and don't understand reading all these posts.
here's my issue, we have a Linksys G router on the 3rd floor and added the card to the computer in the basement.
the signal is weak, shows 'low' and sometimes 'good' with the figure reaching 58 for the max. strength.
How can I improve this as the internet is slow loading some pages.
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You could try a repeater:
Link |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by JL_SS
You could try a repeater:
Link
Or move the router to a lower floor... |
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| jldekoning |
| You could also try moving the router & modem to the 1st or 2nd floor. |
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| jldekoning |
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Originally posted by phins2rt
Or move the router to a lower floor...
Didn't see your post................... |
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| nightguy |
I think they are right, you will have better luck with the computer at or above the level of the router. Also, dense objects or water will make a difference in the signal level.
I have my setup in the basement and it works well, even two levels above it. I have an excellent signal on the main floor and very good on my second level. We use the computer mostly on one end of the house so I have my router on that side of the basement....away from the plumbing, phone lines, etc. |
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| zafer |
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Originally posted by ByeByeChrysler
How can I improve this as the internet is slow loading some pages.
Try turning the antennas on the router horizontal, this http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10163_7-6271405-1.html
and/or
if it's the WRT54G, you can flash it with Satori and boost its power output. See my Turbocharge Your Linksys Access Point post above. |
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