| Bryanj9 |
| I am thinking of adding a satellite tuner to my 2003 touring/nav. I would like any feed back on how it sounds and if one is better than the other. Also where are you placing the reciever and how are you conecting it to the factory head unit. |
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| yerfttam |
I have a sony XM unit in the storage compartment underneath the coin holder (The "NOT an ashtray"). I have it wired through the antenna. I know hard core audiophiles would scoff at this, but for the average listener, I highly recommend it.
I also purchased the sony because I can take the unit out and use it in my house.
Hope this helps.
Matt |
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| fcoxwell |
| I just ordered the Delphi unit with two car mounts so I can move it depending on which vehicle I drive. I chose XM after reviewing the channel listings and even though everyone says XM has commercials and Sirius does not, I chose XM for the variety of channels other than music channels. |
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| texrb |
I have an XM Delphi SkiFi portable unit. I took it on a 2000 mile round trip a couple weeks ago & loved it. The cassette adapter worked fine & sounded better than the radio does in my MDX.
The only drawback to XM is you will lose signals under a long overpass. This didn't happen to me on the trip, but has happened as I go under the runways at the airport. Supposedly this doesn't happen with Sirius.
I didn't perm install the Delphi, but rather have it laying under the center counsole lid so it is completely hidden when I am out of the car & easy to use with the lid open when I am driving. I also take it out from time to time to use in the Lexus. |
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| frostyra |
| The last I heard, Sirius had a lot fewer subscribers than XM, and both groups have needed some major money infusions to keep going. You might want to wait a while to see how things shake out. |
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| jswift2000 |
| frost hit it right on - both are announcing earnings this week which will better determin how they will fair in the future. All this is based on subscriber numbers. XM was first to the market and Sirius came about a year later but Sirius has a better satelite technology - XM is using 2 older satelites while Sirius is using three satelites that orbit in a figure 8 pattern. When I go with satelite radio, I will be going with Sirius - they are tapping all the markets - cars, places, boats, rv, portables, etc. Its all a matter of time. You may want to go to a Best Buy, Tweeter, CC, etc and talk to the people in the car audio dept and see what they're selling. Good luck and let us know how you make out. |
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| alluu |
It looks like Sirius as a company has finally turned the corner. Nothing better than having 2 companies competing in the same market.
I like Sirius but compare then to ReplayTv while XM is Tivo in the DVR segment. |
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| apple904 |
| I put Sirius in my Jeep and I'm really pleased with it. Previous comments about XM being bigger are correct but I read that Sirius is now signing up subscribers at 4x the rate of XM. I'm sure XM is good but I got Sirius because they have 65 channels of commercial free music and 35 additional stations for news, weather, comedy, talk, etc. To me, if I'm paying for it, I want to select the music station I feel like and not have to wait for commercials to see what's next. I wouldn't hold back waiting for a shakeout, one guy will end up buying the other and they are still going to be using those satellites. If you install, try to get around the FM modulator. Sound will be much better. Lot's of advice on this board on how to do that if you do a search. |
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| RedMdxMemphis |
I like the Delphi XM I got for eight months. The boombox of the Deliphi is also handy for home use.
If you are in a valley, you may lose signal but that is universal to all the satellite control unit, even the navigation.
The beauty of the XM is that you get all the similar song groups that you like and don't have to hunt for songs. The songs I enjoy are never in the local radio. If you travel long distance, you will find XM is just a great tool. And $10+ a month is less an a McDonalds visit. |
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| jswift2000 |
| There are some great posting on CNBC about both stocks - both fell short of anaylsts expectations, sirius loss narrowed while xm grew and there is an interesting article about XM trying to launch a new satelite b/c the two they have are running out of power. Check them out. |
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| alluu |
| I've been following those 2 companies and an very surprised that XMSR had such a turnaround today. The economics didn't really change from yesterday to today that warranted the upgrade. |
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| jswift2000 |
| I know. Wednesday and Thursday were a crap day for both stocks buy yesterday XM turned around with an upgrade. With all the 2004 models coming, both companing will have the chance to really strut their stuff. I will be going sirius, not xm - better technology and no commercials. |
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| DNLeeper |
I don't see that having "no commericals" is really a selling point for the Sirius service. Having "limited" commercials in blocks of 30 seconds, max of 2-3 minutes per hour on limited XM is the selling point. I don't mind a 30 second national commercial for the $3 less a month... Besides, most of my perferred stations on XM are commercial free.
I have 4 XM radios.... and up 140% in my stock.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| jswift2000 |
| XM is having a problem with one of their Boeing satelites - appearently its running out of power sooner than expected and they're trying to obtain funding to launch a two more but they're running into problems. I agree that Sirius should lower the price and begin advertising more. Lets see how wall street treats these guys. |
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| DNLeeper |
I have yet to find an article relating to the "power failure" of the current three Boeing Satellites in orbit. Rock and Roll function with one backup that has not been utilized. Please note that each satellite has a 15-year design life and only dropps 2.5 kilowatts in this time frame.
Here is the only reference to the additional satellite:
Boeing to Build Fourth High-Power Spacecraft for XM Satellite Radio
Thursday, August 7, 2003 7:31 PM
- PR Newswire
ST. LOUIS, Aug 7, 2003 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Boeing (BA) will build and deliver a fourth Boeing 702 satellite for XM Satellite Radio, Inc. (XMSR), the Washington, D.C.-based provider of the nation's leading satellite radio service.
The satellite, designated XM-4, will be delivered in late 2005 for future launch to XM's orbital slot at 115 degrees west longitude in support of XM's on-going service requirements.
"This order demonstrates a valued customer's continued confidence in the Boeing 702 product line," said Dave Ryan, vice president and general manager of Boeing Satellite Systems. "XM initiated commercial service with two Boeing 702 satellites plus a ground spare in 2001, and we are grateful for this new opportunity to support their continued success. This award also makes clear that Boeing is fully committed to providing reliable technology and superior long-term service to its customers in the commercial and government marketplaces."
As in the first three XM spacecraft, Alcatel Espace of Toulouse, France will provide the S-band Digital Audio Radio Service (DARS) payload for XM-4. XM-4 will also feature a number of upgrades including a bi-propellant back up to its Xenon Ion Propulsion System (XIPS). Equipped with advanced triple junction solar cells, the satellite is designed to generate 18 kilowatts of power at start of service and 15.5 kilowatts at the end of its 15-year design life.
XM is America's #1 satellite radio service. With over 692,000 subscribers as of June 30th, XM is on pace to have more than one million subscribers later this year. XM is available on a wide variety of GM, Honda, Toyota, Infiniti, Nissan and Audi models. GM recently announced that it has manufactured more than 500,000 XM-equipped vehicles and that it will exceed the 1 million mark by March 31, 2004. XM radios, including the critically acclaimed Delphi XM SKYFi radio are available at Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart and other major retailers nationwide.
A unit of The Boeing Company, Integrated Defense Systems is one of the world's largest space and defense businesses. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is a $25 billion business. It provides systems solutions to its global military, government and commercial customers. It is a leading provider of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; the world's largest military aircraft manufacturer; the world's largest satellite manufacturer and a leading provider of space-based communications; the primary systems integrator for U.S. missile defense; NASA's largest contractor; and a global leader in launch services |
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| jswift2000 |
| I read it on the CNBC SIRI message forum - someone posted a message with a link in it. I'll tyr to dig it up. |
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| alluu |
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Originally posted by jswift2000
I read it on the CNBC SIRI message forum - someone posted a message with a link in it. I'll tyr to dig it up.
Saw something to that nature too from an analyst report the day after XM released earnings. They were also having issues with their insurance company over this. It said something to the nature that XM may need cash sooner than expected.
This is an interesting article:
LINK
I really like Sirius but somehow their receivers just aren't as snappy as XM. If Sirius can make large inroads and beat subscription estimates, I think the gap between XM and Sirius will narrow. |
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