| MDX350 |
Anyone gotten the timing belt replaced yet, due to mileage (on the X)? How much did it cost? Did you get the water pump replaced too?
Thanks. |
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| DaleB |
| It's 105K. Discussion on this previously. Many feel it should be done sooner, maybe closer to the 75K - 80K mark. And yes, water pump too. |
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| ByeByeChrysler |
Was there not a TSB on the water pump?
just trying to recall from memory. |
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| MDX350 |
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Originally posted by MDX350
Anyone gotten the timing belt replaced yet, due to mileage (on the X)? How much did it cost? Did you get the water pump replaced too?
Has anyone reached this stage yet - anyone ACTUALLY gotten it done? Would be useful to know when they got it done, how much it cost, what was the condition of the old belt, what was the condition of the water pump - whether it needed replacement or not.
I have seen a few timing belts from Accord V-6s, replaced after more than 120K, and they were in pretty good condition. |
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| shootist |
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Originally posted by MDX350
I have seen a few timing belts from Accord V-6s, replaced after more than 120K, and they were in pretty good condition.
The problem with timing belts- if you replace it one mile too late, your valves are crushed against the top of your pistons, your engine is toast, and your a$$ is gra$$. |
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| MDX350 |
| "whether it needed replacement or not" was for the water pump - the manual doesn't say it should be replaced with the timing belt, just says it should be inspected. |
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| srpbep |
I for one would do the water pump when doing the timing belt. Heck, you are in there and it's all disassembled.
Using 100,000 miles as the "interval", do you want to bet that the water pump is good for 200,000 miles? If it goes, you going to have to pull apart the front all over again.
Anyway, that is just the way I approach the question. If I have a belt done, I have the pump changed. I am sure others will disagree. |
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| JimH |
| I absolutely would replace the water pump w/ a new timing belt at 100K. I see no reason to take a chance on it going out later---whether 1k or 50 K miles later. |
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| DEZRVIT |
| Every Acura/Honda vehicle I have owned (6) have recommended that both be changed together, I see no reason why the MDX would be different. Yes, I would change both. |
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| hammermdx |
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Originally posted by DEZRVIT
Every Acura/Honda vehicle I have owned (6) have recommended that both be changed together, I see no reason why the MDX would be different. Yes, I would change both.
Ditto! |
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| whynotmdx |
| If you have an extended warantee I guess you could wait to change it till just before it expired since the scheduled replacement is afer 100K. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by whynotmdx
If you have an extended warantee I guess you could wait to change it till just before it expired since the scheduled replacement is afer 100K.
I like warranties in case things are out of control, I don't like to use them as crutches for what I feel is otherwise smart maintenance.
I understand what you are saying though and it has merit. But it's like when people have crappy cars and great warranties. I'd rather have a great car and an average warranty. My time is worth something too, as well as not experiencing the aggravation of getting stuck somewhere. There is more to the picture than just dollars saved on repairs. |
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| whynotmdx |
Hopefully if it is a scheduled maintenance item at 105K then it should last more like 150K and not give out at 75K. I suppose to be safe we could change it every 50K.
Personally I plan to stick with what the engineers determined was appropriate.
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Originally posted by srpbep
I for one would do the water pump when doing the timing belt. Heck, you are in there and it's all disassembled.
I will check into the water pump issue when the time comes and see what the cost would be of doing it as part of the belt replacement vs having to do it later.
Strange as it seems I have found that the way most service centers (dealer included) determine costs is on a per piece basis. The hours shown in their book are for that part taking no consideration of savings due to other work being done.
You might be able to negotiate some, but chances are it will cost the same to do it while they are they or if they have to disassemble it again. |
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| MDX350 |
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Originally posted by whynotmdx
Strange as it seems I have found that the way most service centers (dealer included) determine costs is on a per piece basis. The hours shown in their book are for that part taking no consideration of savings due to other work being done.
You might be able to negotiate some, but chances are it will cost the same to do it while they are they or if they have to disassemble it again.
Quite right. My dealer quoted my $1285 for timing belt and water pump - not that I need it anytime soon, was just checking, but that's ABSURD!!!!
However, doing it every 50K doesn't make sense. that's WAY too much over maintenance!! Of course, if money is no concern, then it doesn't matter ...... |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by MDX350
Quite right. My dealer quoted my $1285 for timing belt and water pump - not that I need it anytime soon, was just checking, but that's ABSURD!!!!
However, doing it every 50K doesn't make sense. that's WAY too much over maintenance!! Of course, if money is no concern, then it doesn't matter ......
I think at minimum mileage, 70K. 75K-80K should cover anybody's driving style.
But with regards to the highway robbery charge, this is a good job for an honest NON-dealer Honda/Acura mechanic. |
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| MDX350 |
| that's why I started this post - there has to be SOMEONE on this forum who has gotten it done - how much did you pay, and what did you get done? |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by MDX350
that's why I started this post - there has to be SOMEONE on this forum who has gotten it done - how much did you pay, and what did you get done?
I thought the highest mileage ever posted here was 77K and they replaced their X. I don't think anyone has had it done here except during the "water pump bolt meets the timing belt problem" fix, which was under warranty.
Can't you call up indpedent mechanics and dealerships and just get estimates? I am sure it's not that different than other Honda or Acura models. |
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| MDX350 |
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Originally posted by DaleB
Can't you call up indpedent mechanics and dealerships and just get estimates?
Sure, I just wanted a customer's perspective.
I searched, and there were a couple of people over 100K miles, so I thought they MUST have faced this issue already. |
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| m2pc |
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Originally posted by MDX350
Quite right. My dealer quoted my $1285 for timing belt and water pump
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Does that include coffee, tea, donuts, flat screen TV???? |
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| MDX350 |
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Originally posted by m2pc
Does that include coffee, tea, donuts, flat screen TV????
600 dollars (out of 1285) ARE for coffee, tea, donuts, and normal TV (no flat screen at such CHEAP prices).
In fact, I bet every timing belt change buys the coffee, tea, and donuts for the entire dealership for the entire month! |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by MDX350
Sure, I just wanted a customer's perspective.
I searched, and there were a couple of people over 100K miles, so I thought they MUST have faced this issue already.
Wow! over a 100K? Have you tried to PM or email them? They should be here telling us more about their X's. Maybe no news is good news. |
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| MDX350 |
| Good idea, I'll e-mail them and ask them to share their experiences. |
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| QuicksilverZ06 |
Awwww quit whining. You folks ought to see how much the 90k service with t-belt and w/p costs for a 3.5RL, or...gasp, an NSX!
Rob |
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| MDX350 |
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Originally posted by QuicksilverZ06
Awwww quit whining. You folks ought to see how much the 90k service with t-belt and w/p costs for a 3.5RL, or...gasp, an NSX!
Rob
How much does it cost? |
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| Tempstephan |
Haven't been to the forum for a while. From the picture of things, I should have an estimate on some work. I will do a little checking and get back.
FYI - I remain a happy camper with my X. |
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| pkr51 |
| I'm guessing most of us will be out of warranty, so let me ask .... why use a dealer? They won't do ANYTHING that ignores the flat-rate book - so go to an independent and save some (big) bucks. I did this with my soon-to-depart RX, now at 112k, and saved 1/2 of what dealer wanted; replaced the water pump too. |
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| DaleB |
It's only a maintenance item, not a warranty issue. Thought I saw an internet special at some Acura dealership. Just for the belt change was a few hundred. Can't believe the pump would more than double it.
Would probably use an independent that works Hondas/Acuras. |
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| bchenMDX |
| i just got a letter from acura saying that there may be a problem with the timing belt. will scan once i get home if you guys are interested. |
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| JimH |
| Assume that letter was for the timing belt tensioner replacement and not the timing belt. The recall for 2002 timing belt replacement should have been completed back in 2002/early 2003 for affected 2002 MDX's. I also received the recall letter for replacing the timing belt tensioner due to a potential problem w/ the oil-filled tensioner. |
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| GoFast_K |
| Is it a belt or chain type? Most belt type needs to be replaced at 60 k miles. Most chain type needs not to be replaced unless it shows signs of slippage and most chain type suppose to last at least 150-200 +k miles. Did anyone have a technical manual can look it up for me? Thanks. |
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| hammermdx |
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Originally posted by GoFast_K
Is it a belt or chain type? Most belt type needs to be replaced at 60 k miles. Most chain type needs not to be replaced unless it shows signs of slippage and most chain type suppose to last at least 150-200 +k miles. Did anyone have a technical manual can look it up for me? Thanks.
It's a belt not chain. |
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| GoFast_K |
| You are right about the pros of the belt, but chain will last much longer without any replacement. |
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| Fabvsix |
Folks:
With out reading all the post, this is a labor intense job, so being that the belt and pump are nickels compared to the labor involved, just change the pump while they have the freaking motor apart or do you want to pay $1250.00 twice to change low priced items (timing belt and water pump/thermostat). Acura would LOVE to charge you twice..................... ! :eek: :eek: |
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| Fabvsix |
| Rubber timing belts ! No chains in these puppies. I have a few from previous Honda's I've owned. |
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| namegoeshere |
I have had Acura Legends before and I always change the water pump when I did the timing belt which was about every 80K. I also ask them to change all the other belts (AC, fan belts, etc.) which are about $15 a piece. The idea is that since they have the engine apart anyway, you might as well have them reinstall it with new parts.
The real problem I have with my Legend were the two knuckles in the front steering assembly. In my Legend, as well as on my X, they are encased in a rubber boot which is full of grease. The rubber boots overtime rips and grease will escape. When this happens, the front steering joints will wear out and ultimately need changing. That's a $400-$500 repair (and that was quite a few years ago.) |
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