| jhw |
*** EDIT: The Group Buy for these has started!
AutoVation MDX Pedal Group Buy Order Form
*** EDIT: We found a tester! Thank you all for your fast response! Hopefully we can get these installed and ready to roll very soon!
(Originial Message - note we no longer need a tester)
Our BRAND NEW Acura MDX Pedals are in! However, we need someone to test fit them before we can run a group buy on these. All you need to do is install and let us know how it went, and take some installed pictures ... any takers? Please e-mail jw@autovation.net
Here's what they look like:
Matte Finish:
...did I mention a discount for the tester? :)
Thanks! |
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| hockeyplayer |
| I sent you an email. |
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| xcel |
Hi Jhw:
___I wouldn’t be interested in the entire package (I know those who would however) but I am wondering about a properly angled dead pedal. The MDX’s dead pedal angle sucks and if you want to make a go of supplying an X accessory, fix that and we will beat down your doors ;)
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by xcel
Hi Jhw:
___I wouldn’t be interested in the entire package (I know those who would however) but I am wondering about a properly angled dead pedal. The MDX’s dead pedal angle sucks and if you want to make a go of supplying an X accessory, fix that and we will beat down your doors ;)
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
I'm a little confused ... so you don't think our dead pedal will work as pictured? |
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| xcel |
Hi Jhw:
___It may work as a straight replacement but the dead pedal in the X is painful over a long distance because it is almost flat to the floor (very slight angle to the vertical) vs. properly angled to keep your foot and ankle at an ~ 90 – 110 degree angle or thereabouts. I will give you a better angle to shoot for tomorrow when I get into the Previa, Corolla, and Accord for a measurement of their dead pedals during the day. You should ask some RX300/330 and X5 owners for their dead pedal angles as well …
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by xcel
Hi Jhw:
___It may work as a straight replacement but the dead pedal in the X is painful over a long distance because it is almost flat to the floor (very slight angle to the vertical) vs. properly angled to keep your foot and ankle at an ~ 90 – 110 degree angle or thereabouts. I will give you a better angle to shoot for tomorrow when I get into the Previa, Corolla, and Accord for a measurement of their dead pedals during the day. You should ask some RX300/330 and X5 owners for their dead pedal angles as well …
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
Ok, I understand now. Typically our pedal covers would not solve this problem and would only bolt over the existing angled DP. Send me a few good pictures of the MDX DP (from straight on and from the side) and I'll see what we can do. |
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| xcel |
Hi Jhw:
___I am sorry I don’t have a digital camera but I will post some pics in this thread when I get some developed …
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by xcel
Hi Jhw:
___I am sorry I don’t have a digital camera but I will post some pics in this thread when I get some developed …
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
Ok, thank you. |
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| Paul's MDX |
I'd love to test them out.
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| Captain MDX |
quote:
Originally posted by Paul's MDX
I'd love to test them out.
:D
Too late Paul :D |
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| Captain MDX |
| See the dead pedal in this picture??? |
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| hockeyplayer |
| Hey guys, I will test these baby's out but I am a little skeptical of the retrofit. These pedals seem to all require a screw or bolt to hold the pedal in place but the MDX pedals are not all such that a bolt or screw can be attached. The brake pedal seems to be the most straight forward install of the 4 pedals but judging by the holes in the picture they do not line up and will require drilling. The gas pedal and parking brake are such that the end of the pedal is a complete plastic accessory which looks nothing like the brake pedal.The dead pedal.........I don't even know.... |
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| hockeyplayer |
| Here is a side view of the gas pedal. |
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| hockeyplayer |
| And a side view of the parking brake pedal....sorry about the picture quality... |
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| xcel |
Hi Jhw:
___The approximate angles from the horizontal of the various dead pedals are as follows:- 03 Acura MDX - 25 degrees
- 03 Corolla LE - 45 degrees
- 91 Accord LX - 52 degrees
- 92 Previa LE - 35 degrees
___With HockeyPlayer’s pics this morning, I don’t think you really need anything more to come up with a solution.
___In my time driving the 4 vehicles, the Previa’s and Corolla’s dead pedal angle are probably the most comfortable for me. If you could come up with something with an ~ 40 degree angle, I will buy one if it looks OEM’ish. Can anyone go and take a quick measurement of their other luxury automobiles? Texrb, I know you have an RX. LaborLitigator, how about your M3? A dead Pedal does not and probably should not be made from drilled aluminum or steel. Just a simple rubber block or rubber mat on metal, plastic, or wood frame that can be attached to the floor with Velcro, screws, glue, or whatever should take care of another one of Honda’s missteps to save production costs when designing our X’s.
___Hockeyplayer, there is no need to be sorry about the pics. Anyone heading out to the garage and getting in behind the pedals for a pic has gone far beyond the call of duty IMHO and they convey exactly what needed to be shown. Nice job!
___Thank you and Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| texrb |
| xcel - about 50 degrees for the RX330. I may be off a little. |
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| texrb |
xcel your mailbox is full - so here is more info:
The dead pedal is very comfortable to me, but my wife doesn't use it. I am not 100% confident with my calculation - been a long time since I figured degree of angle, however looking at it, it appears to be between 45 & 50 degrees, so I figured I was correct. |
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| xcel |
Hi Texrb:
___Sorry about the Inbox being full message. I had 4 PM’s just today and unknowingly must have hit the limit.
___Thanks for the RX’s data and feedback as far as its comfort is concerned. I just pulled out a protractor and did a rough calculation from horizontal on all 4 vehicles.
___As for the wife, I think I mentioned that she doesn’t use the dead pedal either. For longer trips, that one item is probably more important to me than anything else (other than the seats and steering wheel location of course) and the X has the worst angled/designed dead pedal I have ever used other than the Nissan P/U which doesn’t have one … So much for luxury?
___Good Luck and Thanks again.
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| frostyra |
| I guess I'm missing the boat on this -- I don't understand the rationale behind having a dead pedal. 'Course, I've never had a car (as far as I know) that had one. I have long legs, and even with the seat fully back, a comfortable footrest for me would be to the left of the brake pedal, and close to the sloped part of the floor behind the brake pedal. |
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| Skewbeedeaux |
The idea of a dead pedal is to provide a bracing point for the left foot during hard maneuvers which is approximately the same distance from the body as the other pedals. I've not made use of mine and feel it is just a cosmetic addition to the X. If you turn hard enough in an X to require one, you'd be on your moonroof. But since Acura has included one, it's nice this kit cover all pedals.
I await the Tester's feedback. |
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| Emerald01 |
I'm afraid that comparing the angle dead pedal of some of the vehicles mentioned will not be a good representative of the "ideal" angle for the dead pedal.
The "ideal" angle of the dead pedal will be dependant on the height of the driver and ride position. Short people, will of course ride closer and higher will require less of an angle. While taller people will ride lower, further back and will require a steeper angle.
I do agree that the dead pedal dose not feel comfortable. I'm 6'. I don't hear complaints from my wife who uses the X for work. I do all the long drives during the weekend. She's 5' (she says 5' -1/2"). Don't really know if she uses it.
Can you make a dead pedal that’s adjustable? ;)
BTW- I love the looks of the pedals. Can't wait to see pictures of it installed. If I were to get a set, I think I wouldn’t want it without the dead pedal. I would want to put an emphasis on this tiny flaw. |
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| hockeyplayer |
| Hi all...well the pedals arrived today. They look really nice. Those with 03's will really like the looks with the chromed sills. I haven't done the actual install yet but taped them in place to give you an idea of what they will look like. Autovation is working with me right now to get the gas pedal to fit better. I have sent them pics and they will adjust the arc of the pedal and send out a new one. To date I have received extremely fast responses to any emails I have sent. I will post my how to pics when I receive the new gas pedal and do the install. Sorry for the messy floor.:cool: |
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| Captain MDX |
| Very nice hockeyplayer, the pedals look cool. |
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| Skewbeedeaux |
| Yes, and let us know how they feel compared to the stock pedals. |
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| akrauss |
| I firmly agree with Xcel - - the dead pedal angle is horrible and one of the only major complaints I have with my '03 MDX. However, I dont think they can increase the angle too much, because the emergency brake pedal is there. I would rather have an emergency lever by the arm rest, if they could give me a better dead pedal. |
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| Ronsully |
| I guess I don't get any hook up on these? I never really heard back from you guys??? I was the one that sent you the templates for the pedals in the first place. Maybe you guys can still hook me up when they are done since I did help. :( .. Anyways, they look nice. |
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| mdx99 |
quote:
Originally posted by jhw
*** EDIT: We found a tester! Thank you all for your fast response! Hopefully we can get these installed and ready to roll very soon!
(Originial Message - note we no longer need a tester)
Our BRAND NEW Acura MDX Pedals are in! However, we need someone to test fit them before we can run a group buy on these. All you need to do is install and let us know how it went, and take some installed pictures ... any takers? Please e-mail jw@autovation.net
Thanks!
I am interested in the group buy, does it require drilling into stock pedals? Please update me on the pedals when available.
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| Ronsully |
| You would pull the rubber pedals off and drill holes for the new pedals (gas pedal is drilled neat and straight up). |
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| mdx99 |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ronsully
You would pull the rubber pedals off and drill holes for the new pedals (gas pedal is drilled neat and straight up). [/QUOTE
Am I drilling into metal or plastic stock pedals?
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| jhw |
Website price is $74 Polished / $99 Matte Finish + S&H
If we’re able to get 10 or more then I can do free shipping
.... and $59 Polished / $69 Matte Finish
Polished Finish ($59 shipped)
Matte Finish ($69 shipped)
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| MDXtrous |
| Considering that the pedals are metal, should their be concern that they would be slippery, especially in rain and snow days? |
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| kudo |
Interested in the footrest and brake pedals only (Matte Finish) Please let me know if you sell those two only. (and how much)
Thanks. |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by MDXtrous
Considering that the pedals are metal, should their be concern that they would be slippery, especially in rain and snow days?
Like maybe rubber plugs in the holes? I think we could design something similar that is more functional. |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by DaleB
Like maybe rubber plugs in the holes? I think we could design something similar that is more functional.
Guys, these pedals have excellent grip, and (unlike rubber) even when wet or muddy. This "anti-slip" technology is due to the the sharp raised edges and was created by our machinist who is also a Circuit Racing Instructor and Viper Days Instructor.
Customer Feedback |
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| Ronsully |
All,
I have these pedals in my Supra and have never had a problem. In fact, these give much better grip than the stock rubber pedals when wet. I also drive barefoot a lot and have had zero problems with these pedals (note: my feet are so tender that I never walk outside barefoot). Install is pretty simple. |
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| Big Gorilla |
jhw
On the original post when you were looking for a tester the Acura logo appeared on the brake pedal, I notice now that MDX has replaced it, my question is can you still get the Acura logo? Also what would be the cost just for the break pedal alone?
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| kimsta |
They look really clean. I'm very tempted to order a set.
Got any pics of them installed in the X? |
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| EXCALIBUR |
jhw,
Since you made it that easy, I think I would be interested in ordering a pair of your pedals. Just want to make sure the order includes shipping to HAWAII. Please confirm. |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by EXCALIBUR
jhw,
Since you made it that easy, I think I would be interested in ordering a pair of your pedals. Just want to make sure the order includes shipping to HAWAII. Please confirm.
Yes, the free shipping includes Hawaii and Canada. |
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| EXCALIBUR |
jhw,
Mahalo nui loa:29: |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by EXCALIBUR
jhw,
Mahalo nui loa:29:
You're welcome! |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by Big Gorilla
jhw
On the original post when you were looking for a tester the Acura logo appeared on the brake pedal, I notice now that MDX has replaced it, my question is can you still get the Acura logo? Also what would be the cost just for the break pedal alone?
Thanks
Unfortunately we no longer carry the "A" logo. We can sell just the brake pedal for $35. Please e-mail sales@autovation.net for this transaction (only). Thanks. |
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| m2pc |
| Is the deadpedal still at the original angle? |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by m2pc
Is the deadpedal still at the original angle?
Unfortunately yes. We were unable to correct the problem without higher manufacturing cost and installation headaches. |
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| xcel |
Hi JHW:
___That is really too bad about the deal pedal angle. When you figure out how to angle that single plate, please post again and I will order a set myself.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| kudo |
| Price for footrest and e-brake pedals only? |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by jhw
Unfortunately yes. We were unable to correct the problem without higher manufacturing cost and installation headaches.
I wonder if adding bushings underneath the top part of the foot rest with longer screws would not work to increase the angle? |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by DaleB
I wonder if adding bushings underneath the top part of the foot rest with longer screws would not work to increase the angle?
Yes that would most likely work. From a technical standpoint this is doable, however, we can't do a custom solution with out raising prices and complicating the installation. |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by jhw
Yes that would most likely work. From a technical standpoint this is doable, however, we can't do a custom solution with out raising prices and complicating the installation.
Understood, I was just offering that as a suggestion. Should look nicer than the 87 Accord footrest someone used from a wrecking yard. |
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| mdx99 |
voila! pedals installed.
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| EXCALIBUR |
mdx99,
Looks good. Was it difficult to drill the holes into the brake pedal? Any helpful installation tips would be appreciated.:4: |
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| mdx99 |
quote:
Originally posted by EXCALIBUR
mdx99,
Looks good. Was it difficult to drill the holes into the brake pedal? Any helpful installation tips would be appreciated.:4:
Not bad, broke one of my titanium drill pit though.
dead pedal & gas pedal using self-tapping screws into plastic.
Drilled 4 holes into brake pedal after removing the rubber pad, not too bad, the screws sent to me were too short so Jeff from Autovation sent me some longer screws and they now fit good.
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| EXCALIBUR |
mdx99,
Thanks for the information and posting the extra pics. One more question...did you have to drill the parking brake pedal or did it use the self-tapping screws? I am looking forward to receiving my order. I hope Jeff will send me the correct size screws for the brake pedal.:4: |
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| mdx99 |
quote:
Originally posted by EXCALIBUR
mdx99,
Thanks for the information and posting the extra pics. One more question...did you have to drill the parking brake pedal or did it use the self-tapping screws? I am looking forward to receiving my order. I hope Jeff will send me the correct size screws for the brake pedal.:4:
Yeh, the parking brake pedal is plastic so you should use the self-tapping screws(2) on that. The upper end of the gas pedal is about 1/8-1/4" narrower than the stock gas pedal, That's why you can still see a bit of stock pedal in the picture so you may want to move it a bit to the left when you install it.
Be aure to drill 3/16" tiny pilot holes before the final drilling on the steel brake pedal.
Have fun!:rolleyes: |
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| mdx99 |
One more critical thing I forgot to mention, I did apply some crazy glue at the plastic dead, parking & gas pedals before I attached the screws to the pedals. That should prevent any loosening of the screws in the future even if you go off-road. I didn't do it on the steel brake pedal since it had 4 bolts with nuts in the back, it's not going anywhere.
BTW, the grip is very good even with leather shoe, I like the solid feel of the metal pedals and they look nice at daytime when you open the door and see the light color pedals, very custom looking!
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| EXCALIBUR |
mdx99,
Thank you for sharing the additional tips. Jeff e-mailed a reply to me that he will be sending the longer screws for the brake pedal.:4: |
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| Captain MDX |
| Doesn't look that good IMO :confused: |
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| mdx99 |
quote:
Originally posted by Captain MDX
Doesn't look that good IMO :confused:
I think you need to feel & touch it and see how it goes with the 03's door sill, then you will like it better, :) |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by Captain MDX
Maybe.
...GB price includes free shipping to Canada. :) |
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| EXCALIBUR |
Just installed my AutoVation MDX Pedals this afternoon.
Installation Tips:
1) Take your time and have fun. That measure three times and drill once adage cannot be overemphasized.
2) Using a wood block under the brake and parking brake really helps provide bracing when drilling the pedals.
3) Use a strong drill and sharp drill bits. My poor Makita 9.6 volt drill was barely up to the task.
4) I also worked my way up in drill bit sizes starting with 1/16" until I made it to 3/16". Better safe than sorry when drilling holes.
5) Thanks to mdx99 for his installation pics, and thanks to jhw who responded to a few of my frantic e-mails asking for help.
Driving Impressions:
1) The AutoVation MDX Pedals are very well made. Even though they are metal, they provide a better grip than the OEM rubber pedals. They look great.
2) Throttle response definitely improved, as well as braking and cornering at high speed. I would estimate at least a 10 hp gain.;)
Overall, this installation could be done by most DIYer's. :29:
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| EXCALIBUR |
| AutoVation MDX Pedals - Before Installation |
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| EXCALIBUR |
| AutoVation MDX Pedals - After Installation |
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| EXCALIBUR |
| AutoVation MDX Pedals - Angle View (WeatherTec Mat covers dead pedal) |
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| mdx99 |
quote:
Originally posted by EXCALIBUR
Just installed my AutoVation MDX Pedals this afternoon.
Installation Tips:
1) Take your time and have fun. That measure three times and drill once adage cannot be overemphasized.
2) Using a wood block under the brake and parking brake really helps provide bracing when drilling the pedals.
3) Use a strong drill and sharp drill bits. My poor Makita 9.6 volt drill was barely up to the task.
4) I also worked my way up in drill bit sizes starting with 1/16" until I made it to 3/16". Better safe than sorry when drilling holes.
5) Thanks to mdx99 for his installation pics, and thanks to jhw who responded to a few of my frantic e-mails asking for help.
Driving Impressions:
1) The AutoVation MDX Pedals are very well made. Even though they are metal, they provide a better grip than the OEM rubber pedals. They look great.
2) Throttle response definitely improved, as well as braking and cornering at high speed. I would estimate at least a 10 hp gain.;)
Overall, this installation could be done by most DIYer's. :29:
:roadtrip: :9:
Cool!, you forgot to mention that it also decrease braking distance..:D |
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| EXCALIBUR |
quote:
Originally posted by mdx99
Cool!, you forgot to mention that it also decrease braking distance..:D
Yes, and I did notice a 5 mpg increase in gas mileage as well.;) |
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| KentuckyMDX |
Guys,
Trying to understand how metallic, designer pedals can, by function and design:
1) Increase fuel economy by 5 MPG
2) Decrease braking distance
Mind you I'm not saying that they "don't" but would really like to understand the science behind them? I thought they were simply add decor.
Thanks, |
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| jhw |
| Excellent installation pictures... Very nice! Can I use them for our main ad? |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by KentuckyMDX
Guys,
Trying to understand how metallic, designer pedals can, by function and design:
1) Increase fuel economy by 5 MPG
2) Decrease braking distance
Mind you I'm not saying that they "don't" but would really like to understand the science behind them? I thought they were simply add decor.
Thanks,
Our pedals do not do this. This is a joke. |
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| KentuckyMDX |
| Sorry - duh. Didn't notice the winking emoticons till just now! |
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| EXCALIBUR |
quote:
Originally posted by jhw
Excellent installation pictures... Very nice! Can I use them for our main ad?
Sure can. You have a really great product, and that is no joke.:29: |
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| EXCALIBUR |
quote:
Originally posted by KentuckyMDX
Sorry - duh. Didn't notice the winking emoticons till just now!
They are still great pedals at any rate.:4: |
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| Davebaby26 |
hey im new to the site and i was wondering if you guys had any of those pedal sets left from earlier this year. if you do could you e-mail me at Davebaby26@hotmail.com. im really interested and want a set for myself.
thanks
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| kudo |
| Still waiting to hear back if I can get the dead and E-brake pedals only :confused: |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by Davebaby26
hey im new to the site and i was wondering if you guys had any of those pedal sets left from earlier this year. if you do could you e-mail me at Davebaby26@hotmail.com. im really interested and want a set for myself.
thanks
David Bayley
Yes and you can order them here:
AutoVation MDX Billet Pedals - Order Form |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by mdx99
voila! pedals installed.
:eek:
Stupid question but is that a stock MDX floor mat? |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by kudo
Still waiting to hear back if I can get the dead and E-brake pedals only :confused:
You sure can. Please send an e-mail to sales@autovation.net for this requests. |
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| Mr Zipps |
I know a few of you have both the TL and MDX. Can someone check to see if the footbreak is the same size for the MDX as the TL...
Thanks
Dan |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Zipps
I know a few of you have both the TL and MDX. Can someone check to see if the footbreak is the same size for the MDX as the TL...
Thanks
Dan
This is currently being tested. We should know very soon! |
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| jhw |
| for those traking....the MDX eBrake did fit the TL...and the CL. |
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| luciferi |
| How many of you have dealt with this company? I have sent a couple of emails and and they never responded back. I wanted to buy a couple of pedal sets but now I am unsure of the company. |
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| jhw |
quote:
Originally posted by luciferi
How many of you have dealt with this company? I have sent a couple of emails and and they never responded back. I wanted to buy a couple of pedal sets but now I am unsure of the company.
That's strange. I don't man the main sales e-mai | | | |
