| vlam |
I recently bought a Sony DRU510 from Dell and it is working out really well. I paid around $200 and have been backing up my kid's DVD.
Another brand you may want to look at is the Pioneer. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Is that one for the laptop or the desktop? |
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| Warzau |
| Looks like a good drive NEC is one of the top one with Sony, Cendyne( bankrupt), Lite-on. BUT the seller has alot of negatives and neutrals. I'd be wary of the seller |
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| vlam |
<< Is that one for the laptop or the desktop?>>
It's an internal drive. I bought it when Dell had the 2.8Ghz P4 400SC for $400. |
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| A2MDXer |
quote:
Originally posted by vlam
I recently bought a Sony DRU510 from Dell and it is working out really well. I paid around $200 and have been backing up my kid's DVD.
Another brand you may want to look at is the Pioneer.
LL, I have the Sony external one DRU500 I think (I can move it from notebook to desktop). It costs a bit more but I really like being able to use it with several machines. |
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| ace3 |
| Yeah, I have two. One I bought and the other came with a system. I use them to backup movies and other large files. A little slow but there nice. The one i got was for like 150 I think, got it a www.tigerdirect.com Not a fancy smancy one, but it works. |
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| BaldEagle |
| Have one on the laptop I purchased recently. Although I've burned a few CD's with it I've yet to use the DVD burner. |
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| BLACK-BLING-MDX |
| LL, buy the new sony... or the new plextor... it writes @ 8x fastest avaliable but problem is... no media... and that's the same problem with all the recent 4x drives... no media! :rolleyes: |
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| DaleB |
My new Sony VAIO laptop has a built-in DVD+RW/CD-R writer. I have used it once to develop recovery disks. Some of latest PCs now include the back-up resident in a HD partition and leave it to you to make disk copies. Ridiculous when you are paying $1700 for a system.
Anyway, it took one DVD and one CD to complete the process. This versus the 9 CD-Rs it would normally take. |
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| JTM |
| Purchased a external SONY DVD+/- R/RW few month back in the computer show. It works great with either DVD or CD. I am using it to backup my harddrive files. |
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| one4gatr |
quote:
Originally posted by vlam
I recently bought a Sony DRU510 from Dell and it is working out really well. I paid around $200 and have been backing up my kid's DVD.
Another brand you may want to look at is the Pioneer.
What program are you using to "back up" your dvds? |
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| vlam |
<< What program are you using to "back up" your dvds?>>
I am using DVD XCopy Express. It will put the entire DVD into 4.7GB. You will lose some quality but you will have all the menus and any additional stuff. You can chose to just backup the movie.
If you want to use mulitple DVD for your backup, go with DVD XCopy Gold
You can download the Express version for free trial (it will allow you to make 3 backups) |
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| one4gatr |
| Awesome... I have a DVD writer but have yet successfully backed up a factory DVD... I will d/l this weekend and we will see how it goes... thanks again... |
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| Warzau |
| I used dvd decrypter, then use Pinnacle instant copy, can lower the quality of the extras so the main movie has the best. That way you can fit a DVD-9 onto DVD-5. |
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| one4gatr |
quote:
Originally posted by vlam
<< What program are you using to "back up" your dvds?>>
I am using DVD XCopy Express. It will put the entire DVD into 4.7GB. You will lose some quality but you will have all the menus and any additional stuff. You can chose to just backup the movie.
If you want to use mulitple DVD for your backup, go with DVD XCopy Gold
You can download the Express version for free trial (it will allow you to make 3 backups)
Thanks for the advice. I downloaded and tried the program. WOW beats the hell out the way I had been trying to do it. I went and purchased the retail version at best buy yesterday. It only took 45 minutes to burn a complete dvd. Sooooooooooo Easy to use too.
Thanks Again |
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| vlam |
| Glad it worked out for you. The software is pretty much "dummy proof". Insert the DVD, answer the two questions and press start. |
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| zafer |
quote:
Originally posted by vlam
<< What program are you using to "back up" your dvds?>>
I am using DVD XCopy Express.
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Does the copy maintain the originals region code restriction? |
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| Warzau |
| I don't know bout DVDX press. But if you do it they i do it DVD decrypter removes both macro and region restrictions. |
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| crmsnidol |
I picked up a Sony U10a (+/- DVD-RW) for $165 and flashed it's bios to accept the DRU500a firmware upgrades (it's an OEM drive with the 500a's guts). Works great and I haven't had a bad burn yet.
I'm using:
- DVDXCopy XPress for quick copies
- DVDXCopy for custom DVD rips (retaining some extras but removing others to keep to the 4.7GB limit)
- Nero for DVD .iso images I've downed.
- Stomp RecordMax Pro for PS2 DVD images.
- Ulead DVD PictureShow 2 for menu-driven slideshows and movies.
Word of advice. If you are trying to rip episodic DVD's like Band of Brothers, Simpson's Series or The Sopranos - DVDXCopy and XPress cannot keep the multiple episodes on one DVD. XPRess cannot do it at all and XCopy can read them but you'll need to split them out and downsample. Always test with an RW first if your player can read them to see if you were successful. My Sony DVP-330 DVD player (1999) plays +R and +RW and my V7 PS2 plays +R, +RW and -R. I haven't tested with -RW. My APEX players play everything. |
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| nwaring |
The 10/28 issue of PCmag did a test on internal and external dvd burners and software. The winners are:
Internal - Memorex Duel Format DVD
External - LaCie d2 DVD+/-RW
Software - Sonic MyDVD 5
Niles:) |
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| csimo |
For those of us that have either a 2003 or 2004 I think we're out of luck trying to copy the DVD. I'm told it's in DVD-9 format (single sided, dual layer). There are utilities out there that convert movies on DVD-9 to the 4.7GB DVD-5 format. These utilities mostly work by reducing video quality of the background. Our navigation DVD contain data and can't be reduced unless you use compression that our nav systems won't understand.
Has anyone out there successfully copied (for archival purposes only) a 2003 or 2004 nav DVD? If so have you actually used it?
Thanks in advance! |
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| Warzau |
| Most of the talk here is for movies. I backed up my DVD navi it is from 02 MDX. The data on the DVD is less than 4.7 obviously the dual layer data on the latter navi might use the two layers. So you can't copy it. Not until the dual layer dvd writters come out. |
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| 6mt |
| i backed mine up in case something happens to the prescious $200 dvd and it worked without issues :8: |
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| 6mt |
| 2.11c (for my CL) it's the dual layer one. it worked for about a week so far |
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| swfongdds |
| I am planning on purchasing a Plextor 4X DVD writer from Fry's Electronics for $69 after the $50 rebate. It is a DVD+R writer. What is the difference between DVD+R and DVD-R? Can anyone elaborate on the difference between the + and -. |
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| Warzau |
might as well be asking what the difference between Dell, and HP, and IBM or Acura or Lexus, or at&t and MCI, basically two comepeting standards.
SOOO The truth is that the two competing technologies use different formats
here is a nice tidbit of info I found that give it nice and sweet. The only thing I can say is check to see what your dvd player plays and go with it.
"DVD-R/RW was developed by Pioneer. Based on CD-RW technology, it uses a similar pitch of the helix, mark length of the 'burn' for data, and rotation control. DVD-R/RW is supported by the DVD Forum, an industry-wide group of hardware and software developers, and computer peripheral manufacturers. The DVD-R format has been standardized in ECMA-279 by the Forum, but this is a private standard, not an 'industry' ISO standard like the CD-R/RW Red Book or Orange Book standard.
DVD+R/RW is also based on CD-RW technology. DVD+R/RW is supported by Sony, Philips, HP, Dell, Ricoh, Yamaha, and others, and has recently been endorsed by Microsoft. DVD+R/RW is not supported by the DVD Forum, but the Forum has no power to set industry standards, so it becomes a market-driven issue.
Technical Answer
DVD+R is a dvd disc that allows multiple layers for one disc where as dvd-r only allows one layer. They will not compete to become the de Facto standard, because they are both here to stay. Multi layer DVD+R can allow extra capacity per disc than DVD-R hence its high cost!" |
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| 6mt |
these are just different formats. some people claim that - works better on their standalone dvd players, others claim that + does. the only way to find out is to try. + worked better for me, but i am pretty new at this. also, keep in mind that this player is not dual layer compatible so it won't support making dvds larger than 4.7gb in size.
edit: warzau, i didn't realize you already replied... |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by swfongdds
I am planning on purchasing a Plextor 4X DVD writer from Fry's Electronics for $69 after the $50 rebate. It is a DVD+R writer. What is the difference between DVD+R and DVD-R? Can anyone elaborate on the difference between the + and -.
While it'll cost more, it's better to purchase a combo drive that can do both DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW. This way you're protected.
DVD-R and DVD+R are differing formats. You buy different blank discs for each one.
Some standalone DVD players play one format better than the other. Some of them play better when the disk was burned with a specific burner.
In general, DVD-R seems to be playing in a higher percentage of standalone DVD players. DVD+R seems to get the advances in writing speed first. E.g. 8x DVD burning came first to DVD+R. While DVD-R has caught up, DVD+R is now up to 12x. However, to take advantage of these speeds you need both a drive capable of writing the media that fast, and appropriate media.
A good site for info is:
www.videohelp.com
They even have a database that has info on what played well in what standalone DVD player. |
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| wmquan |
A handful of dual-layer drives are out, notably ones from NEC, LiteOn, and LG. They're generally under $100. Some are just $79, and they all support both DVD+R and DVD-R.
These will let you back up discs that are dual-layer, which go up to 8.5 GB in size.
Unfortunately the media for it is quite expensive, about $12-$14 per disc (Verbatim has them now). Over time it'll undoubtably drop.
Also, the write speed for dual-layer is currently slow (2.4x), taking over 40 minutes to burn the disc.
Initial reports I've been reading are generally positive except for the expense and slow write speed. The most notable issue is that while most are reporting good compatibility with home DVD standalone players, the dual-layer DVD is sometimes not readable in other computer DVD drives!
So this is still an emerging technology that will doubtless improve over time. |
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| Odd1 |
Dual layer recorders will have no more compatibility problems than any other DVD/CD burner be they + or - . They are all pretty much 95% compatible. Generally the newer/better the device you are attempting to play it on the better your chances. After all the commercial DVD movies you now play are essentially dual layer. Best site on the WEB for all things DVD burning, editing, copying, including a huge resource for free and legal DVD copying software(since they're not selling it?) is http://www.videohelp.com/
Great helpful forum also. I've backed up many DVD movies using DVD Shrink which is a must have to cram 8 gigs of movie onto current 4.5 gig DVD's. DVD shrink was just updated to handle dual layer media. |
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| swfongdds |
| Thanks for the info regarding the + or - dvd formats. I purchased the 4X Plextor DVD+R external recorder at Fry's for $69 after rebates making it pretty much disposable as the technology advances and changes. |
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