| timbrwolf9 |
I have heard that the MDX shares about 20% componentry with the Honda Odyssey minivan, but as far as I am aware, there is not an actual Acura car that the MDX is based on, is there?
For instance, the Lexus RX330 is based on the ES330 sedan.
Any ideas? |
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| msu79gt82 |
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Originally posted by timbrwolf9
Any help?
Help with what? The MDX is based on the Honda Odyssey mini-van platform - it is NOT a car based SUV. |
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| timbrwolf9 |
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Originally posted by msu79gt82
Help with what? The MDX is based on the Honda Odyssey mini-van platform - it is NOT a car based SUV.
I have always heard people call it a "car-based".......so you describe it as a "minivan" based to people?
Maybe it is just me, but "car-based" sounds better than "minivan-based", but only if it is true. |
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| gadgetdog |
but isn't the Odessey based on some form of the Accord?
If so, then it is car based |
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| twosomeca |
| My understanding is that MDX is not built on a strict truck platform, it is built on a car-based platform. |
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| msu79gt82 |
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Originally posted by twosomeca
My understanding is that MDX is not built on a strict truck platform, it is built on a car-based platform.
The MDX is NOT truck based at all. The MDX was designed on a modified Odyssey minivan platform. If that offends some then get over it! |
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| twosomeca |
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Originally posted by msu79gt82
The MDX is NOT truck based at all. The MDX was designed on a modified Odyssey minivan platform. If that offends some then get over it!
I am not offended. One thing I like about the "car" aspect is that the vehicle has better suspension and handles better. Personally, I like cars, I don't like trucks. When I test drove the Infiniti QX4, I hated it and immediately disqualified it from contention. Tomorrow, we are going to a pumpkin patch, so we are piling into the X for a short trip to the country. :) |
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| trixie |
| As applies to SUVs, "car based" indicates a unibody construction. Truck-based indicates a body-on-frame construction. Way back, cars were all constructed body-on-frame. Unibody construction became popular for cars back in the 60s. The advantage of unibody includes lighter weight, better space efficiency, and improved ride quality. Body-on-frame is still preferred for rough duty encountered off-road or for heavy towing. Pickups are likely to remain body-on-frame. The bed of a pickup contributes little to the structural rigidity of a pickup, dictating the need for a separate frame. |
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| wmquan |
The Odyssey is loosely based on the Honda global car platform (well, the one from a previous-generation Accord). The MDX, in turn, is based on the Odyssey minivan.
All of the vehicles share a unibody construction common to cars, unlike, say, a ladder-and-frame truck construction.
So the MDX is closer to the Odyssey minivan, and more distantly related to an older Accord platform. Minivans are also car-based, and thus the MDX is both car-based and minivan-based.
As msu79gt82 says, if it bugs you, get over it. Else the friends and relatives will stick it to you that you're driving "an AWD minivan," or a "minivan on stilts." Been, there, done that. |
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| evoge |
| The first generation Odyssey was Accord-based (that's why it was so much smaller), but the second-(current) generation is the newer platform that comprises the Odyssey/MDX/Pilot branch of the Honda family. Every company is using common chassis platforms now, but I wouldn't call the X "car-based". |
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| renov8r |
I would guess the line "RX330 based on the ES330" comes from a Lexus DEALER -- they will say ANYTHING if they think it will help 'make a sale'.
The REALITY is that the "old" Acccord 'platform has been the 'jumping off point' for ALOT of Honda product, JUST like the CAMRY platform has SPAWNED quite a bit of other vehicles: Solara, Avalon, New Sienna, ES300, RX300 -- the "stuff" that makes an RX330 is quite different than the "stuff" that makes an ES330. From handlling bits to structure, to trim, there simply is NOT that much shared between an ES330 & RX330...
BTW the first Mopar minivans were spawned by the k-cars...
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Originally posted by timbrwolf9
I have heard that the MDX shares about 20% componentry with the Honda Odyssey minivan, but as far as I am aware, there is not an actual Acura car that the MDX is based on, is there?
For instance, the Lexus RX330 is based on the ES330 sedan.
Any ideas?
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| evoge |
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Originally posted by renov8r
BTW the first Mopar minivans were spawned by the k-cars...
K-cars? Gawd, remember those things? There might be no better justification for believing that cars have become significantly better in the past 20 years! :4: |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by msu79gt82
The MDX is NOT truck based at all. The MDX was designed on a modified Odyssey minivan platform. If that offends some then get over it!
Sure beats having it based on the SLX!! But thanks to the SLX, Acura was sure to have their "own" replacement SUV also with a 3rd row seat. |
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| MrPrescott |
| I've heard it referred to as a light truck platform, because it's based off the minivan frame (not accord based). |
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| XStatic |
Would it make anyone feel better if there was a MDX based truck?
Honda plans mid-size truck for 2005
The second-largest Japanese automaker is developing a mid-sized truck that will blend the attributes of a pickup and an SUV, according to auto parts suppliers and others familiar with the plans.
Honda's new pickup -- likely to arrive in showrooms in 2005 -- will be built on the same basic vehicle architecture that underpins the Honda Pilot and Acura MDX mid-size SUVs.
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Honda is coming late to the truck party, but has proven with the Odyssey minivan and the Pilot mid-size SUV that it's more than capable of successfully branching out into new niches. The new pickup is expected to be built at Honda's plant in Alliston, Ontario, or its Lincoln, Ala., factory.
Honda CEO Hiroyuki Yoshino, in an interview last August, hinted at the automaker's plans, saying that if Honda decided to build a pickup, it would be unconventional.
The new truck will be far from conventional, say future product experts who have closely tracked its development. It will be built on a car-like one-piece frame, known as unibody construction, as opposed to the typical body-on-frame truck design, said Michael Robinet, a product analyst with CSM Worldwide in Northville.
The design limits towing and hauling capacity, but should allow for exceptional ride and handling characteristics.
"A unibody truck is the holy grail of the light truck market," Robinet said.
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"It will be a little more than a mulch hauler," Robinet said. "They are not going to sell a lot of these in Kansas. This is mostly an urban vehicle."
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| frostyra |
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Originally posted by evoge
The first generation Odyssey was Accord-based (that's why it was so much smaller), but the second-(current) generation is the newer platform that comprises the Odyssey/MDX/Pilot branch of the Honda family. Every company is using common chassis platforms now, but I wouldn't call the X "car-based".
Hmmm -- I don't quite buy that logic. My wife's '99 Accord and the MDX are the same length. The differences are in height and width, plus many other details, but the fact remains that the Accord and MDX are VERY similar in ride, handling, and general behavior. I'm very glad for that, especially compared with my "jolt-your-teeth-out" truck-based Explorer. |
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| mlkeller |
| Interesting rendering of the truck...wonder if that front is what they are considering for the redesign of the MDX (looks like a combination of the TSX/TL type front and the lights from a RX330...hmmm...) :confused: |
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