| msu79gt82 |
| The college basketball game is my favorite sport to follow. I have had a lot of fun following Memphis and Georgia Tech in the past. Texas Tech with Bobby Knight is also a good time. I can not wait. |
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| msu79gt82 |
Pre-Season Top 25 to be released today:D
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...ll/usatpoll.htm
Will reigning national champion Syracuse start the 2003-04 men's college basketball season as the No. 1-ranked team in the USA TODAY/ESPN Top 25? Or will the honors in the coaches' preseason poll go to perennial heavyweights Duke, Michigan State or Arizona? Could the Orangemen's Big East brethren at Connecticut be favored to keep the NCAA crown in the league?
Find out who starts the season on top when the first poll gets released today at 6 p.m. ET. :D
The season gets under way Nov. 13 with Wake Forest taking on Memphis, in the Coaches vs. Cancer Classic. Marquette will face St. John's in the doubleheader's nightcap.
San Antonio will stage the Final Four April 3 and 5. |
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| ghm2112 |
Yet ANOTHER season of watching the Blue Devils wipe the floor with the likes of GT.:2:
Actually I have no idea what GT is supposed to be like this year, but my contacts back a Duke have been impressed by some of the younger guys including Shavlik Randolph and Lee Melchionni. Have no clue what these guys arelike, but word is that they have good size and movement. Word is also that Duhon looks great having added a few lbs of muscle.
Let the 'Dookie' hating begin!
-Traveller:4: |
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| msu79gt82 |
Hey I subscribe to the philosophy of 1) Be True to Your School, but 2) Be True To Your Conference!! Go ACC:1:
and C-USA (Louisville may be Pre-Season #1)
and Big 12:1: |
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| cbarry |
quote:
Originally posted by ghm2112
Yet ANOTHER season of watching the Blue Devils wipe the floor with the likes of GT.:2:
YES!!!!!
Glad to see another Blue Devil on the boards! My contacts at Duke Basketball Report say Duke looked amazing in the pre-season Blue-White scrimmage. Luol Deng is poised to be freshman of the year, and many of the others (Randolph, Redick, Thompson, S. Williams) have bulked up significantly in the off season. Duke will be a force to be reckoned with this year. |
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| ghm2112 |
Yeah, cbarry, we'll have to stick together on this one since Duke is probably third only to the Yanks and Cowboys in terms of people hating them for their success (or in the case of the 'boys, past success).
I guess I should mention that I was a Dook hater in the years before I went to grad school there. Always thought of them as one of those white-boy poseur schools; like a BYU of the South.
5+ years in Durham showed me the errors of my way (I think).:4:
Go Devils (and ACC teams except the 'holes)!
-Traveller:1: |
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| cbarry |
I grew up in Chapel Hill, and (shame!) pulled for the Tar Heels. When I went to Duke undergrad, I was quickly transformed into a Blue Devil, and have been ever since!!!
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| ghm2112 |
"UNC is a women's soccer school...":2:
-Traveller |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Pre-Season 9-18 |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Pre-Season 19-25 |
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| azfansinnc |
I am and always will be an Arizona Basketball fan. (Screenname = AriZona FANS IN North Carolina.)
I can't stand it that I live in the middle of the ACC. No love for Duke or UNC here.;) The NC State Wolfpack is always interesting if I had to choose a local favorite. |
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| ghm2112 |
Only 3 West Coast (AZ included) in the Top 25.
Are the Pac-10 and other western conferences really that inferior? Or does this poll reflect (like many others) the fact that the majority of voters are from/more familiar with the east and midwest conferences?
azfansinnc: try to catch a game at Cameron Indoor Stadium and see if you change your mind about ACC basketball. I realize you get it jammed down your throat with Duke, UNC, NCSU and Wake so close by, but the experience kicked the crap out of the PAC10 games I've attended (mostly Cal and Stanford).
Enjoy the season!
-Traveller |
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| msu79gt82 |
| All of my schools play in respectable conferences (ACC, Big 12, and C-USA). Both Texas Tech and Memphis look to be competitve, not sure about GT since they lost Chris Bosch to the NBA:rolleyes: |
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| azfansinnc |
quote:
Originally posted by ghm2112
Only 3 West Coast (AZ included) in the Top 25.
Are the Pac-10 and other western conferences really that inferior? Or does this poll reflect (like many others) the fact that the majority of voters are from/more familiar with the east and midwest conferences?
azfansinnc: try to catch a game at Cameron Indoor Stadium and see if you change your mind about ACC basketball. I realize you get it jammed down your throat with Duke, UNC, NCSU and Wake so close by, but the experience kicked the crap out of the PAC10 games I've attended (mostly Cal and Stanford).
Enjoy the season!
-Traveller
Getting tickets for a game at Cameron is impossible! I'm not knocking quality basketball. Duke, and usually UNC, are definitely frontrunners in that category. I just have to boost the 'Cats.
The supposed east coast bias is an interesting phenomenon. If you live out west, it certainly feels that way sometimes even though the Pac10 has had multiple teams in the Sweet 16 the last few tournaments. On the flip side, besides the Pac10, what other major conferences are there out west? It's a big country, lots of real estate out west, yet so few people in comparison to the east & midwest. |
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| dmyles |
OKAY,OKAY, OKAY.....guess I gotta step in and represent the 'Heels.
All of you Dookies and members of the A-B-C club (Anybody But Carolina) have gotten a bit spoiled over the past few years while the 'Heels were on hiatus. But rest assured now that Roy is in town, things will be different this year!
Let the fun begin!!
GO HEELS!!! |
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| ghm2112 |
az: tickets are never IMPOSSIBLE to get, just can be expensive. If interested, you shoudl try to get in during the Christmas holiday break. Fewer students are around and Coach K HATES to see empty seats. Not sure when the kiddies head back to mummy and poppy in Connecticut, NJ and NYC, but here is the home schedule for December:
12/06/2003 ST. JOHN'S Durham, N.C. ESPN 2 p.m.
12/14/2003 PORTLAND Durham, N.C. FSN 8 p.m.
12/17/2003 PRINCETON Durham, N.C. espn2 7:30 p.m.
12/29/2003 DAVIDSON Durham, N.C. ESPN 4 p.m.
dmyles: while I've really enjoyed watching the 'holes flounder these past few years, I am looking forward to some great battles in 2004. As you suggest, there is NO WAY Roy will let Carolina under-perform the way they did under Doherty.
FYI:
02/05/2004 *at North Carolina Chapel Hill, N.C. RJ/espn2 9 p.m.
03/06/2004 *NORTH CAROLINA Durham, N.C. ESPN 9 p.m
Happy Trails,
-Traveller:4: |
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| msu79gt82 |
http://msn.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/2003/1104/1653829.html
Lousiville, Marquette, and Cincinnati are leaving C-USA for the Big East. The Big East, stung by the impending departure of three key members to the Atlantic Coast Conference, responded Tuesday by luring five schools from Conference USA.
Louisville, Cincinnati and South Florida accepted invitations to join the Big East in all sports. DePaul and Marquette, which do not have football teams, will join the conference in all other sports.
The five schools will begin play in the Big East in the 2005-06 academic year. |
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| msu79gt82 |
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/colum...andy&id=1653569
The Big East winds up the big winner once the on-going conference expansion saga ends. After all is said and done, the Big East -- not the ACC -- will be the premier conference in the country ... at least when it comes to men's basketball.
That's right, the Big East's gains easily outweigh its losses on the court. Once the Big East is able to add the five teams it wants -- Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette, DePaul and South Florida -- from top to bottom, the Big East wins out. Hands down.
Sure, the ACC will still have Duke, North Carolina and Maryland. But its additions of Miami and Virginia Tech next season and Boston College by 2005-06, combined with the current conference members, simply won't hold up against a new, and improved, Big East of 2005. |
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| msu79gt82 |
http://espn.go.com/dickvitale/vcolu...-expansion.html
It's been a rough road in recent months for Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese. Think about how his football powers, Miami and Virginia Tech, said bye-bye to the conference and jumped to the ACC. Then there was the departure of Boston College, which simply amazes me (how in the world can a school from the Northeast run to the ACC like that?).
But Tuesday was a happier day for the Big East and Tranghese. The conference has added C-USA schools Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette, DePaul and South Florida. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| My boys will be at the Texas Tech game tonight. This will be the last season for a lot of traditional conference matchups - things are starting to get weird. |
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| jswift2000 |
| UCONN all the way. |
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| Guitarmdx |
HEY - WHAT ABOUT FLORIDA STATE!!!!
Hahahahaha! |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by jswift2000
UCONN all the way.
Texas Tech could meet UConn in the Pre-Season NIT finals. Considering the field some are predicting it:cool: :1: |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Both GT and TT start at home tomorrow. |
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| msu79gt82 |
... GT vs. TT in the Pre-Season NIT Finals:cool: :D :1:
GT destroys #1 UConn:2: |
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| msu79gt82 |
| TT Ranked #25 (Memphis and GT closing in) |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ... but they lost to unranked Purdue. Who will be the new #1 ?? |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
... GT vs. TT in the Pre-Season NIT Finals:cool: :D
Score one for the Dad:1: |
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| msu79gt82 |
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1675445
The Jayhawks, taking advantage of losses by the top four teams last week, jumped from sixth to No. 1 in The Associated Press men's college basketball poll Monday.
Their move to the top was the biggest in almost 40 years and matched the second biggest in the history of the poll, which started in the 1948-49 season.
Georgia Tech defeated Connecticut, and Purdue beat Duke, moving them into the rankings for the first time this season. Georgia Tech was 13th.:2: |
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| R Stevens |
| .....and the St. Joe's Hawks are #12! |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by R Stevens
.....and the St. Joe's Hawks are #12!
Kewl avatar, dude:18: :29: |
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| A2MDXer |
| I am somewhat surprised that Michigan is not ranked (and not receiving votes) in the top 25. I think they will surprise some people and make it to the NCAAs. Game vs. NC State tonight. Go Blue! |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by A2MDXer
I am somewhat surprised that Michigan is not ranked (and not receiving votes) in the top 25.
They have not played anybody yet; any decent team would be 3-0 against the competion they've played so far. You'll know soon enough - NC State and Indiana are coming up.
I'm surprised Louisville dropped; they'll be back as will Texas Tech. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ACC won the series 7-2, with GT contributing a blowout at OSU:1: |
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| cbarry |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
ACC won the series 7-2, with GT contributing a blowout at OSU:1:
AND...
Duke blowing out your Michigan State Spartans!!!:2: |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by cbarry
AND...
Duke blowing out your Michigan State Spartans!!!:2:
Ain't MY Michigan State Spartans - ACC Rules (unless they play TT or Memphis - then its a tough call). But I was pulling for GT over TT in the NIT finals because my two boys (both at TT) were home for the holidays. I am GT and Memphis all the way with a little TT thrown in (its the classic "My money and my kids go to TT":cool: ). |
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| msu79gt82 |
| By the way Duke comes to GT Jan 31.:cool: |
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| ghm2112 |
msu79gt82:
Methinks cberry thinks your moniker means MSU = Michigan State, but us old timers know better;)
Beauty win by the Devils last night; Izzo looked like he was going to lay an egg (like his team).
Maybe Duke will have a decent inside game this year?!?!?:2:
I should be nice and sleep deprived (wife's due 12/28) by 1/31, so I'm glad I'll be watching it from the Pacific Time Zone. That game looks A LOT more interesting since GT smacked down UConn and OSU!! Gotta dig that '70s retro center: dy-no-mite!
Ain't ACC BB grand...
-Traveller:1: |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by ghm2112
msu79gt82:
Methinks cberry thinks your moniker means MSU = Michigan State, but us old timers know better;)
Ain't ACC BB grand...
I'm starting to feel like an old-timer; yea its officialy UM now but it will always be MSU to me :cool:
I've been a long time ACC fan, but it is a lot more fun when GT is decent. |
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| cbarry |
My bad. I DID think MSU was Mich St. Sorry bout that.
I can't wait for the Duke-GT game in Atlanta. My wife got tickets for us last year through a friend. I may try to go again this year and get scalped tix. Tix are hard to come by for that game though...
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| ghm2112 |
Especially now that the Wreck appears (at least) decent.
Still don't know if Mr. Godspell (Schenscher) will be able to take a whole year of pounding.
MAN, the ACC looks tough this year! Wish I was back there :mad:
-Traveller:1: |
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| AtlantaMDX |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
<snip> But I was pulling for GT over TT in the NIT finals because my two boys (both at TT) were home for the holidays. I am GT and Memphis all the way with a little TT thrown in (its the classic "My money and my kids go to TT":cool: ).
WHAT!?! You let your kids go to a school with Tech in the name and it wasn't Georgia Tech!?!? :)
Go Jackets! |
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| ghm2112 |
Where you been Atlanta?
I may be more of an occasional lurker these days, but I don't remember seeing you post lately.
How's life in the South?
-Traveller:1: |
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| AtlantaMDX |
ghm2112,
Well let's see. Life got a little busy. We bought our first house last year (been in it just over a year). Between that and work, it's been a little buzy. I've been lurking too, and posting once a blue moon. One of my fellow yellow jackets pulled me out of the wood work this time! :) (Thanks msu79gt82). |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by AtlantaMDX
WHAT!?! You let your kids go to a school with Tech in the name and it wasn't Georgia Tech!?!? :)
Go Jackets!
My kids grew up ACC fans and still are fond of the ACC, but we've lived in Texas for over 12 years now and they wanted a home "town" school (if you can call Lubbock's 500 miles away, home town).
PS: When we were watching the NIT championship game on TV the boys (I have 2 at TT) were "complaining" that we couldn't just cheer for Tech - we had to say which Tech. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Whoa, my boys are getting votes for Number 1:1: |
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| cbarry |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
Whoa, my boys are getting votes for Number 1:1:
And mine are NOT (yet)...
-cbarry
Go Blue Devils! |
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| AtlantaMDX |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
Whoa, my boys are getting votes for Number 1:1:
Let's go Jackets! |
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| msu79gt82 |
...than ever before:cool: There does not appear to be (yet) a clear cut favorite to win it all.
I suppose parity is inevitable when all the good high school players go straight to the pros now:rolleyes: |
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| ghm2112 |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
...than ever before:cool: There does not appear to be (yet) a clear cut favorite to win it all.
I suppose parity is inevitable when all the good high school players go straight to the pros now:rolleyes:
What he said.
Last night's MA-FL game was a perfect example.
Fear the turtle.
-Traveller |
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| msu79gt82 |
... "current" #1 Florida loses AGAIN and #4 Missouri loses:rolleyes: :eek:
But GT and TT already won - Memphis later tonight. |
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| azfansinnc |
I enjoyed watching at least part of the Arizona - Marquette matchup today. I was worried there for awhile but Lute and the boys pulled it out.
BTW, I was in Florida this week when the Turtles beat them. Not a happy scene as you can imagine. Now they lose again....Ouch.
It's dangerous at the top.... |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Oh well - 2 out of 3 is not bad. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Interesting that nobody dropped out this week. |
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| msu79gt82 |
Georgia Tech guard Will Bynum is now eligible.:1: Bynum hasn't been on the court for a game since Dec. 30, 2002, in a victory over Boston University. After transferring to Georgia Tech, he sat out the required two semesters while practicing with the Yellow Jackets (8-0). At Arizona, Bynum was known mostly for his offensive outbursts, like the 19 points in 23 minutes against San Diego State last season. He hit 4-of-8 from beyond the 3-pointer arc in that one, and made 35 percent overall in his eight games with the Wildcats. As a freshman, he started nine times and averaged 6.4 points, helping Arizona reach the regional semifinals in 2001-02.
Can GT keep improving? |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Hey I've voted for GT at least 10 times now:rolleyes: |
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| msu79gt82 |
| I hope I am not insulting anyone here - but WHO is Belmont:confused: ?? Memphis struggled against them all night before winning 89-83. |
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| msu79gt82 |
They struggled more than I would have liked - I hope they are not getting the big head.
Wake tops UNC in 3OT:eek: |
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| ghm2112 |
Man, did you see how the 'Holes choked that one away at the end of regulation?
Wake down by two inbounding the ball along the baseline. UNC does not cover the guy inbounding the ball who gets the kick out from the center and gets FOULED behind the 3-point line!
The Wake freshman then steps to the line and makes 2 out of 3. What a choke on their own floor.
Roy Williams is a great coach, but he was out-coached on this one!
Brings a tear to my eye...:2:
Hopefully dmyles survived this one...
Happy Trails,
-Traveller:1: |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ESPN/Coach's Poll Top 25 - 12/22/03 |
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| msu79gt82 |
| I knew GT was not going to go undefeated, but to lose to Georgia:( |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ESPN Top 25 - 1/5/04 |
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| R Stevens |
....and St Joe's remains unbeaten at 12-0 and moved up to number 9 in both polls. The Hawks are beginning to look like a legitimate contender!
...in the real shocker tonight my other team - Penn State - actually won a Big 10 conference game - against Minnesota.
...and Joe Gibbs returns to coach the Redskins! |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ESPN Top 25 - 1/12/04 |
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| R Stevens |
| Hawks move up to #3 in both polls! |
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| msu79gt82 |
| All my teams had good weeks; Memphis, GT, and TT should all make the big dance:2: :21: :2party: |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ESPN Top 25 - 1/19/04 |
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| cbarry |
| My guys (and gals) are back where they belong! Duke #1!! |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Jan 31 - Duke at GT; GT has already taken out one #1 this year:1: |
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| ghm2112 |
Well, at least the Devils didn't fall into the form of other #1 teams.
'twas a good game. I especially like the way Duke is playing D and crashing the O boards these days; good D is a Coach K trademark, but their rebounding (especially on O) has been weak. The Devils shot a pathetic 34%, so things would have been very different if they weren't getting 2nd, 3rd and 4th shots.
It would have been nice to see Duke put them away but, then again, what do you expect from a game between these two in MD. Remember last year when MD beat #1 Duke in College Park?!?!
Looking forward to 1/31, msu79gt82!
Happy Trails,
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| msu79gt82 |
| ... both Kansas (to Richmond) and UNC (to FSU) go down to unranked teams. |
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| msu79gt82 |
Well two out of three this weekend.:rolleyes: TT and Texas tonight at TT:1:
I hope the ACC doesn't just beat each other up and everyone ends up with a low seed at the tournament. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Oh man I hate to lose to rivals:3: First GT loses to Georgia and then TT lose on OT to Texas:rolleyes: (but what a game) |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ESPN Top 25 - Jan 26, 2004 |
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| mullysalt |
| The Panthers look to my eye to be a better team this year. Watch out come tourney time. |
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| msu79gt82 |
At 4:00 (CST) its GT and Duke on TV
At 6:15ish its steaks on the grill:1:
At 8:00 its TT on TV |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Well the basketball sucked:rolleyes: , but the cookout was fine:1: |
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| mullysalt |
It was below 10 degrees here last night so no cookouts only a bunch of shut-ins.:(
How were the steaks? I think all three of your squads will make the tourney as long as they continue their good play down the stretch |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ESPN Top 25 - 2/2/04 |
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| mullysalt |
| I don't know all the details but what I've heard is that Knight was at a off-campus salad bar and TT's prez came up to compliment him on his improved demeaor this season. I have never cared for Knight and his abusive ways, there are many great coaches who stressed discipline but still were able to be civil human beings. I hope Knight gets fired again. |
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| msu79gt82 |
The Chancellor apparently came up to Coach Knight and facetiously said how good Knight's been lately - Knight missed the joke and stormed back that he has been good.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...rbal-spat_x.htm
The witness told the newspaper there was no physical contact between the men, and nothing was thrown.
"This was not a major event as far as I'm concerned," Dan Sanders, executive marketing manager of United Supermarkets, told the Avalanche-Journal.
I know for a fact that the press blows everything Knight related out of proportion. |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
The Chancellor apparently came up to Coach Knight and facetiously said how good Knight's been lately - Knight missed the joke and stormed back that he has been good.
I know for a fact that the press blows everything Knight related out of proportion.
Don't fool yourself msu, Knight's an a$$ and everything he gets he brings on himself. Please don't blame the media. It's a cheap cop out. |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Don't fool yourself msu, Knight's an a$$ and everything he gets he brings on himself. Please don't blame the media. It's a cheap cop out.
Don't kid yourself - the media keeps a close watch on him and blows everything out of proportion! I KNOW that for a fact, due to an incident here in Houston his fisrt year with Tech. Granted he's made mistakes and plenty of them (he may be entirely in the wrong here) BUT the media is capitalizing on past mistakes - and that is wrong period.
His record has been sqeakly clean at Tech - he's deferred part of his salary due to not making the playoffs last year; and he paid for the student's seats at the first round NIT game in Lubbock last year.
Everybody wants to give everybody second/third/fourth/etc/ad nauseum chances in sports except for Knight - give me a break. |
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| mullysalt |
| His actions speak for themselves to say that the media has created his problems is apologizing for his continued poor behavior. Sure the media dogs him every time his missteps but he brought that upon himself with his behavior not the other way around. I'm glad TT and the administration had the backbone to stand up to Knight. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Nothing on the wire (that I've found yet | | | |
