| mullysalt |
The hot stove talk is already fired up with the Yankees defeat in the World Series. What do you want to see your team do? Who will fill the managerial vacancies? Will anyone bite on Manny's contract? What will the Boss do?
Plenty to discuss, should be very interesting. :4: |
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| laborlitigator |
| Yanks need to get another starter. |
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| DaveI |
| They can have Ponson, he didn't exactly increase his free agent value while he was in SF. Just make sure you let us have Vlad Guerrero.:D |
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| mullysalt |
| Who is on your short list LL? I've heard the Yanks like Colon. |
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| laborlitigator |
| I'd take Colon in a heartbeat. |
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| ghm2112 |
Who the hell would want Manny for $20M/year? Isn't that something like $500k/home run or $4M/tantrum? No thanks...
As for the Giants, it's yet another 're-tooling' year with needs on the mound, at first, in right and maybe even both positions up the middle. I guess that's better than the bad old days of the same crappy players year in and year out...
DaveI: don't hold your breath on Vlad, Sabean has already said they're cutting payroll by ~$10M this year...:mad:
-Traveller |
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| baekho6879 |
I agree with ghm2112.
Who wants Manny ??? He wants to go to bronx but I don't think
Yankees will take him. I am not sure how much Yankees going
to spend next year but....I think they will take a look at
V. Guerrero, Andy Pettite for sure.
What do you guys think about Florida ? What are they going to
do about their team ? any changes ???
One more thing...
There's been a talk Shawn Green will make a positon change to 1st
base for Dodgers. Should they get more outfielder next year ?
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| ghm2112 |
baekho:
I think the move to first would be a good idea for LA, but it really won't matter much unless they get some guys who can drive in some runs!
Being a lifelong Giants fan, I can only hope that the Dogs pick up Manny. He seems like a perfect fit and with his salary LA won't have the $$$ to go after Big Bad Vlad.:2:
As for the fish, they are young and tough and aside from resigning their manager, Pudge and (I think) one of those solid starters, their biggest need will likely be in the bullpen. I don't think they can realistically expect to have those guys who stepped up at the end of the season carry that all the way through 2004. Maybe a closer is top of the list: I see them making a play for Tim Worrell (if the Giants don't re$ign him) or even Rod Beck (sounds funny, but...).
Lastly, I'd like to be the first one on record (here anyway) to say that the Padres may surprise people and pull a Marlins next year.
Go Giants,
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| DaveI |
quote:
Originally posted by baekho6879
...There's been a talk Shawn Green will make a positon change to 1st
base for Dodgers. Should they get more outfielder next year ?
Who do you think they should get ?
Why are they talking about moving Green to 1st base?
I think Tejada would be a good fit for them, give them some much-needed punch in the middle of the lineup from a position they usually don't get that much production from. |
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| neide |
| I think the most interesting thing is where will Vlad go? Who wouldn't want this guy? But I've read he doesn't want to go to a big market, because he's not comfortable there. He likes that he can walk down the street in Montreal anonymously. |
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| laborlitigator |
Please George, DO NOT SIGN VLAD.
Pitching, pitching, pitching. . . Bring me Colon and Pettitte back and I'll be happy for the rest of the off-season. |
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| mullysalt |
| I like the looks of a Yankee rotation of Pettitte, Moose, Colon, Lieber and Contraes(sp?). Does that leave everyone favorite former Tiger, Jeff Weaver, as the odd man out? |
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| mullysalt |
| Astros trade closer Billy Wagner to the Phillies. Wow! I hope Billy can deal with Mt. Bowa. Seems like a good trade for the Phils. |
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| msu79gt82 |
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Astros trade closer Billy Wagner to the Phillies....Seems like a good trade for the Phils.
Wow Astros are really trying to improve this offseason:o :rolleyes: |
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| mullysalt |
| The trade of Wagner wreaks of a salary dump to me. Maybe an Astros fan could provide some more insight into this move? |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Somewhat of a salary dump - yes; Wagner is due $8 milllion next season. He publically blasted the owner the last day of the season so he didn't help his own cause any. The Astros believe Dotel is ready to assume the closer role with Lidge his setup - I hope they are right. |
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| mullysalt |
Mattingly signs on to be the next in a long line of soon-to-be former Yankee hitting coaches. I hope he has thick skin and bad hearing, good luck Donny.
Thanks for the local perspective msu, do you think Dotel has closer stuff? |
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| alwx2 |
| Dotel throws in the high 90's and has proven to be an excellent setup man. Great player for fantasy leagues counting holds. As a closer he's blown about a third of his opportunities. The Wagner deal appears to be a salary dump to free up money for Pettitte. He's made it clear he would like to pitch closer to home. The Rangers don't have the money to try and sign him. |
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| msu79gt82 |
With Jimy Williams as Manager you better have a good bullpen - starters wont go past 6 innings usually. Last season the pattern was Starter thru 6, then Lidge, then Dotel, then Wagner.
Yes it clearly was a Salary Dump, however Wagner more or less demanded a trade (w/o saying it per se) by blasting the owner the last dy of the season. He was so vocally opposed to the owner that there really was no choice. |
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| twosomeca |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
The hot stove talk is already fired up with the Yankees defeat in the World Series. What do you want to see your team do? Who will fill the managerial vacancies? Will anyone bite on Manny's contract? What will the Boss do?
Plenty to discuss, should be very interesting. :4:
Still waiting for the Expos to move to the DC area. |
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| AussieMDX |
| I reckon the Giants should resign JT Snow at a lower $$ and get rid of Galarraga. theres no way he'll repest this years stats - .301 with 12 homers and 42 RBIs. |
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| ghm2112 |
I'm on the fence about resigning JT.
I love his heart and glove, but he has been a liability at the plate.
It really depends on how little they can sign him for.Even then I still see him platooning with Peter Happy (Pedro Feliz).
-Traveller |
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| ArdenwoodX |
I have to agree with ghm2112... Lifetime Giants fan and I got mad love for JT... The fact that he completely put out at home plate against pudge this year against the Marlins (when he shouldn't even be the one running in the first place... that's another thread there) only raised my respect for him even that much more... but ultimately like ghm2112 said, he is a big liablity at the plate.
I really like to see them pick up someone like Manny to back up Barry on the lineup. Especially the fact that Manny bats right and that can really create some problem for opposing pitchers to deal with two sluggers from both side of the plate back to back.
I might have to hop on Padres bandwagon here too... Healthy Nevin & Klesko + Giles can be pretty dangerous at 3/4/5 position. They also got some young pitchers who didn't get any run support this year (i.e. Brian Lawrence)..... NL West will be interesting next season.... |
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| mullysalt |
Roy Halladay wins the AL Cy Young award. It's great to see this kid win, I love to watch him pitch.
What about the three-way deal being rumored between the Angels, BoSox and Rangers?
The way I hear it is the principles involved are:Eckstein and some pitchers to Texas, Nomar to the Angels, Arod to the BoSox. |
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| ghm2112 |
ArdenwoodX:
I could not disagree with you more on this one. Manny is poison, especially at that salary. If Sabean was to throw big bucks at anyone it would likely be Vlad. That being said, aside from signing Barry way back when (when they were trying to keep the team in SF), it's not his MO to sign the big ticket guys . As a result I doubt that the Giants will make a serious play for either one of them.
But then again, maybe Vlad wants to play for Felipe again...
Another busy off season for the Executive of the Year...
Mullysalt: where are you hearing these rumors? That would be a pretty wild trade! Could the BoSox actually afford ARod if they can't unload Manny???
-Traveller:1: |
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| mullysalt |
| ESPN Radio. Sorry no special knowledge here just was listening to the radio the other day and heard that rumor. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by ghm2112
ArdenwoodX:
". . . aside from signing Barry way back when (when they were trying to keep the team in SF). . .
-Traveller:1:
I remember that signing back in the early 90's. I specifically remember Bonds saying he didn't want to go to the Yankees because he wanted a chance at winning a World Series (the Yanks were simply awful from the late 80's and early 90's) . . . it still brings a smile to my face.
He'll never win a Series. . . :2: |
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| mullysalt |
| Heard that one on the radio today, too. What do you think about that Yankee fans? Who would you part with to get Schill? He is one of my favorites in MLB. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Heard that one on the radio today, too. What do you think about that Yankee fans? Who would you part with to get Schill? He is one of my favorites in MLB.
I'd take him. The buzz is Nick Johnson would be part of that package. You have to do it. |
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| mullysalt |
| I'd have to agree, LL, if it takes Johnson and some minor leaguers you've got to do the deal. Schilling seems cut out for the pinstripes. |
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| alwx2 |
| ESPN is reporting a number of rumors. D'backs are looking for some more power. Schilling is the trade bait and Yankees are really shopping for pitchers. Texas has finally realized that one A-Rod is worth an entire roster salary wise. I just can't picture Nomar anywhere but Boston. |
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| ghm2112 |
All hail the King!:2:
SAN FRANCISCO -- Barry Bonds captured his record sixth National League MVP Award and unprecedented third in a row Tuesday, beating out St. Louis' Albert Pujols by a 426-303 point margin. Bonds received 28 of 32 first-place votes, while Pujols received three.
The six MVP honors put Bonds far and away in his own class among baseball players, as no other player has won more than three. Bonds is now one of just four athletes in the four major U.S. sports to win an MVP Award six times. The NBA's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and the NHL's Gordie Howe each won six, while hockey legend Wayne Gretzky captured nine MVP Awards in his sport.
NL MOST VALUABLE PLAYER
Player 1st Total
Bonds 28 426
Pujols 3 303
Sheffield 1 247
Thome - 203
Lopez - 159
Gagne - 143
Helton - 75
Besides Bonds, no other player has won more than three MVP Awards.
The three-time winners: AL Player Years
Jimmie Foxx 1932, 33, 38
Joe DiMaggio 1939, 41, 47
Yogi Berra 1951, 54, 55
Mickey Mantle 1956, 57, 62
NL Player Years
Stan Musial 1943, 46, 48
Roy Campanella 1951, 53, 55
Mike Schmidt 1980, 81, 86
Happy Trails,
-Traveller
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| ByeByeChrysler |
REUNITED AND IT FEELS SO GOOD.
Hentgen is back in Toronto.
Hentgen spent his first nine seasons in the majors with the Blue Jays before being traded in 1999. He went 7-8 with a 4.09 ERA with Baltimore last season, but was 6-3 with a 3.10 ERA in 13 starts after the All-Star break.
He said he had more life on the ball in the second half because he recovered from the ligament replacement surgery on his right elbow in 2001.
"We watched him pretty closely the last two months of the season," Toronto general manager J.P. Ricciardi said. "He just looked like he was healthy again.''
Ricciardi views Hentgen as a fourth or fifth starter.
The Blue Jays still need a second and third starter behind ace Roy Halladay. They've made a $10 million, two-year offer to free agent Kelvim Escobar.
"There really hasn't been much of a response," Ricciardi said.
Hentgen won the AL Cy Young Award with the Blue Jays in 1996, when he went 20-10 with a 3.22 ERA. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| They now have their starting lineup back from last year and their top subs. Maybe if they sign a good pitcher with the money they save from dumping Wags they'll be good next year. |
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| mullysalt |
| Ausmus is a good catcher but it was ridiculous how he was traded for twice by former Tigers G.M. Randy Smith. Seeing him resign with the Astros makes me feel comfortable that the Tigers are finally going in a different direction. Who knows if it's any better than than past but at least it's different. The latest coming out of Detroit is that the Tigers want to go after Miguel Tejda. It'll be a 80 degree day in December in Detroit before anyone of that caliber signs with the Tigs. Just please no more players like: Bip Roberts, Greg Jefferies, Dean Palmer, Juan(ita) Gonzalez or Craig Paquette. Geez, maybe the former Tiger higher ups thought that free agency meant you give washed up players money for free.:8: |
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| mullysalt |
| Chowds, your thoughts on Curt "Yankee Killer" Schilling possibily coming to town. Do you like the trade? Are you giving up too much? Epstein has raised the bar. Can he land Arod, too? |
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| neide |
Please don't go, Schill.
As a fan from day one for the Dbax, this trade is making me quite sad. I'd rather have him for one more year and get nothing for him then trade him now. Anyone know anything about the guys they are getting in return?
Either way, I'd much rather have him go to the Sox then the Bronx Bums. |
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| mullysalt |
| There were a few names but all I can remember at this point is Casey Fossum. It was a package of players including Fossum. I love the fact that Schilling has Sox management over a barrel on this one. Schilling wants a new deal before he okays a trade. Kind of ironic that Schilling now has the Sox in this position since they dealt him many moons ago with Brady Anderson to the O's for Mike Bodikker(sp?). |
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| mullysalt |
| Let the games begin! What will the Yanks do now that the Bosox signed and traded for Schilling? The Sox gave up Casey Fossum, Brandon Lyon and two minor leaguers. |
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| neide |
It truly is a sad day in Arizona. Schilling is awesome - both on and off the field.
But I'm happy for the Red Sox fans. One thing you'll discover is that having Schill there will make the rest of your staff - particularily Pedro even better. He just raises the bar.
I still haven't read anything about these guys we're getting for Schilling, anyone know anything about them? |
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| laborlitigator |
Sheffield signs with the Yanks. . . honestly, I'm really not that excited. . . it hasn't been offense that's won World Series (yeah, I know the Angels, but that was a a fluke).
My Yankees wishlist:
A rotation of:
Pettitte (probable because it's just money)
Mussina
Colon (see comment on Pettitte)
Vasquez (I'd rather have him than Schilling in the long run)
Contreras/Leiber
Bullpen:
A healthy Karsay
Rivera
Then I'll be happy. |
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| keremoner |
| what a great rotation. Now lets see if they can finally get the job done next year. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
what a great rotation. Now lets see if they can finally get the job done next year.
Let me remind you, that you're still the Red Sox. With 4 guys making $60M in payroll, let's see how many of those bats the Sox can keep. Remember, Trot Nixon and Mo Vaugn look alike David Ortiz are arbitration eligible. I believe Ortiz made 1.5M last year, right? Plus you lost Todd Walker at 2nd already.
Then, you really have to consider, since the Sox ante'd up $13M for Schilling, do you think Pedro (Mr. Me) won't demand his contract renegotiated?! Let's see. |
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| keremoner |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Let me remind you, that you're still the Red Sox. With 4 guys making $60M in payroll, let's see how many of those bats the Sox can keep. Remember, Trot Nixon and Mo Vaugn look alike David Ortiz are arbitration eligible. I believe Ortiz made 1.5M last year, right? Plus you lost Todd Walker at 2nd already.
Then, you really have to consider, since the Sox ante'd up $13M for Schilling, do you think Pedro (Mr. Me) won't demand his contract renegotiated?! Let's see.
Good questions. However, fact remains the same: Sox got one over Steinbrenner for a change. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
Good questions. However, fact remains the same: Sox got one over Steinbrenner for a change.
Agreed. I would have loved to have Schilling. But I'll still take Vasquez over him in the long run. |
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| msu79gt82 |
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/base...son-trade_x.htm
The Arizona Diamondbacks satisfied their search for a right-handed power hitter Monday, acquiring first baseman Richie Sexson in a nine-player trade that apparently fills several Milwaukee Brewers needs.
Sexson, who hit .272 with 45 home runs and 124 RBI last season, was dealt to Arizona with reliever Shane Nance and a player to be named for infielder Craig Counsell, second baseman Junior Spivey, first baseman Lyle Overbay, catcher Chad Moeller and left-handers Chris Capuano and Jorge De La Rosa. |
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| mullysalt |
| Long hot afternoons at the BOB now that the Dbacks have traded for the leader of the "human windmills". Everyone will be cool when Sexson bats.:cool: |
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| neide |
| Hey, he may strike out a few times, but if he can put up 40-50 home runs, which we desperately need here, I'll be thrilled. |
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| mullysalt |
| neide, can you shed some light on the other players involved in the deal? Are you sad to see any go? I'm sure Sexson will help and I'm also sure he is grateful to get out of Milwaukee for Arizona. |
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| mullysalt |
| Cashman deals Nick Johnson and others to Montreal for Vasquez. It didn't take long for the most appropriately named G.M. in the league to make a move to counter Theo and the Sox and the Schilling deal. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Yes. Finally, Yanks are trading for pitching. I still am not thrilled with the Sheffield signing but bring in Colon or Brown and everything will be ok. |
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| keremoner |
| A. Rod. is the next prize. Lets see who can swing numbers around to justify his huge salary. |
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| mullysalt |
The Yanks might be in serious danger of losing their stud, Andy Pettitte. ESPN radio is reporting that a deal with the Astros is pending and could be announced on Friday.
In even bigger news the Detroit Tigers have solidified their lineup and middle infield with the signing of Fernando Vina. Next stop the World Series, Vina is the final piece of the puzzle. Watch out Boston, NY and the rest of the AL.
In all reality, this is what I was afraid of when Mr. Illitch announced he was spending money this offseason. Another over-the-hill player who is injury prone. Great :rolleyes: I think the phones at the Tigers box office must be ringing off the hook. |
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| laborlitigator |
| If they lose Pettitte, say goodbye to the division. |
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| mullysalt |
| I mean remember that Boston is still Boston until they really do win one. Will AROD land in Boston? It seems as though Nomar and Manny are on their way out. Manny to Texas and Nomar to SoCal? Can the Dodgers afford to not go get Nomar? |
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| keremoner |
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Originally posted by mullysalt
I mean remember that Boston is still Boston until they really do win one. Will AROD land in Boston? It seems as though Nomar and Manny are on their way out. Manny to Texas and Nomar to SoCal? Can the Dodgers afford to not go get Nomar?
Agreed. Sox won't make a believer out of me till they win one!! On the other hand, getting rid of Nomar would be bad for Boston. Nomar should stay and play 2nd base if they get Alex. If you get rid of too many quality players you may not be able to field a dream team. Manny didn't want to stay in Boston and should go to make room for A-Rod's salary. If I were the owner, I would keep Nomar to bolster my chances of winning even if that means losing money (which I doubt in that market) for a year. If they win a Series, then get rid of Nomar since a huge psychological barrier would be brought down by the winning of the World Series. Hope I made sense. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ... we can NOT win the bidding war but we can perhaps win the family/home war:cool: :1: (since he is from Houston and his family lives here). |
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| mullysalt |
| I heard on the radio that Mrs. Pettitte is tired of hauling the kids to NYC every year. This could be the driving force behind him signing elsewhere(Astros) and staying with the Yanks. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
Agreed. Sox won't make a believer out of me till they win one!! On the other hand, getting rid of Nomar would be bad for Boston. Nomar should stay and play 2nd base if they get Alex. If you get rid of too many quality players you may not be able to field a dream team. Manny didn't want to stay in Boston and should go to make room for A-Rod's salary. If I were the owner, I would keep Nomar to bolster my chances of winning even if that means losing money (which I doubt in that market) for a year. If they win a Series, then get rid of Nomar since a huge psychological barrier would be brought down by the winning of the World Series. Hope I made sense.
No way the Sox can keep Nomar and A-Rod simply based on cost. And the Rangers want them to pick up part of A-Rod's salary. I just don't see it. But either way, it's the pitching that matters. Pedro, Schilling, Wakefield and Lowe clearly beats Mussina, Vasquez, Wells and Contreras any day.
George better get his butt moving and resign Pettitte.
Then again, Bernie was gift wrapped and signed with Boston a few years ago. I just hope that they quit the Sheffield stuff and concentrate on pitching. |
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| mullysalt |
| I'm hearing that the Pettitte deal will be announced at this time. Do the Yanks try to deal Weaver for Kevin Brown? Now would be a good time for Boston to finalize the AROD deal and it just may send the Boss over the edge. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
I'm hearing that the Pettitte deal will be announced at this time. Do the Yanks try to deal Weaver for Kevin Brown? Now would be a good time for Boston to finalize the AROD deal and it just may send the Boss over the edge.
I'd pay money to see that. |
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| msu79gt82 |
AP sources: Pettitte to Astros; Yankees close on Brown
By Ronald Blum, The Associated Press
NEW YORK — Andy Pettitte will pitch at home, agreeing Thursday to a three-year contract with the Houston Astros after playing his entire major league career for the New York Yankees.
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| mullysalt |
With the Astros signing Pettitte it will make the division race very interesting. My question is can Pettitte bring his postseason Brass to a team that has traditionally lacked the aforementioned Brass or will they just drag him down to their level?
I like some of the Astros players including their newest one but those guys have stunk up the joint in the postseason. |
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| ghm2112 |
Ever see the Charlie Brown Halloween cartoon where the kids go out and everyone gets cookies and candy, and Charlie Brown gets rocks and coal?
All the Giants have gotten so far is A.J. Pierzynski and Michael Tucker. Oh, and they resigned J.T. Snow. Stop, I can't stands the excitement.
Of well, at least it looks like most of the rest of the NL West teams aren't doing much either (yet)...
Happy Trails,
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| neide |
quote:
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I really hope that Steinbrenner is crying. |
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| mullysalt |
| Hearing now that the Kevin Brown for Jeff Weaver and two minor leaguers deal is done. Yanks lose Rocket and Pettitte but gain Vasquez and Brown plus I think Jon Leiber(SP?) could be a nice addition if he can come back from surgery. |
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| laborlitigator |
It is a sad day in Yankee land. They lose Pettitte but wine and dine that malcontent Sheffield. Give me a break.
They replace him with Brown. But isn't Brown very injury prone. Plus I heard he's a real a-hole in the locker room.
This is looking more and more like the old Bronx Zoo. I wonder if Albert Belle is still available. |
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| mullysalt |
They may both be "difficult" in the locker room but they have a good postseason track record. Brown has been injured but if he can regain his form and Vasquez can handle pitching in NYC then I think the Yankees will be fine.
All I want for Christmas is Tejeda at short and Pudge behind the plate and I might actually consider buying some Tigers tickets. It doesn't hurt to dream.:p |
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| keremoner |
| Brown is 8 years or so older than Pettit. Although he is an overall better pitcher, I would be nervous about getting a hard throwing 39 year old pitcher who has had injury problems. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
Brown is 8 years or so older than Pettit. Although he is an overall better pitcher, I would be nervous about getting a hard throwing 39 year old pitcher who has had injury problems.
Agreed. I think the Red Sox have a clear path to the World Series in 04. They are the proverbial favorites. |
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| laborlitigator |
What so disturbing about the Yankees now, is that had Pettitte been a free agent from any other team, the Yanks would have been breaking his door down to sign him.
Obviously, George is more enamored with "other" teams trophies rather than his own.
What a shame. . . :headshake |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Agreed. I think the Red Sox have a clear path to the World Series in 04. They are the proverbial favorites.
However, one cannot help but wonder what the Sox will do to shoot themselves in the foot this time around. I don't think any Sox fan will ever forget the ball going through the bowled legs of Buckner in 86 as long as they will live. |
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| msu79gt82 |
... rumors are flying that Roger may sign with the Astros (he too is from Houston and may play one more year if he can stay at home).
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Yanks lose Rocket and Pettitte ...
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| msu79gt82 |
... he wanted to be closer to his wife and children!! Living here in Houston means I have access to more in depth media (TV and paper) that other parts of the nation do not have access to. Today's Houston Chronicle has a half-page article titled (in 72 pt bold font) Daddy's Home and subtitled Chance to be near children throughout season plays heavily in Pettitte's decision. His wife and three school age kids live in Houston NOT New York City! Todays sports section has 4 pictures of Pettitte in it - two of him alone and two with his wife and kids.
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
What so disturbing about the Yankees now, is that had Pettitte been a free agent from any other team, the Yanks would have been breaking his door down to sign him.
Obviously, George is more enamored with "other" teams trophies rather than his own.
What a shame. . . :headshake
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
What so disturbing about the Yankees now, is that had Pettitte been a free agent from any other team, the Yanks would have been breaking his door down to sign him.
Obviously, George is more enamored with "other" teams trophies rather than his own.
What a shame. . . :headshake
I heard Tim Kirkjian(SP?) make the same point on ESPN radio this morning. It is truly sad that someone with firm family values and conducts himself in such a professional manner would be left twisting in the wind by the Yanks. Add this to his stellar record and the fact that he's left-handed makes the Yanks treatment of him more puzzling.
P.S.-Now hearing that the Tigers have offered Reggie Sanders a contract. Are you freakin' kidding me:3: :3: :3: !!!!!! Let's see first they sign an over-the-hill F. Vina now they offer Sanders a deal. I guess the old the saying rings true once again. "A fool and his money are soon parted." |
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| neide |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
P.S.-Now hearing that the Tigers have offered Reggie Sanders a contract. Are you freakin' kidding me:3: :3: :3: !!!!!! Let's see first they sign an over-the-hill F. Vina now they offer Sanders a deal. I guess the old the saying rings true once again. "A fool and his money are soon parted."
I really liked Reggie when he was here with the Diamondbacks. He's not a leader, but can certainly be a contributor. He was also very popular with the fans here. |
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| msu79gt82 |
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Originally posted by mullysalt
I heard Tim Kirkjian(SP?) make the same point on ESPN radio this morning. It is truly sad that someone with firm family values and conducts himself in such a professional manner would be left twisting in the wind by the Yanks. Add this to his stellar record and the fact that he's left-handed makes the Yanks treatment of him more puzzling.
Most people don't get it:rolleyes: The Yanks treated him fair! They offered him more money than anyone else did ($3 Million per year more!). It was NOT about money. The Yanks COULD NOT offer him want he wanted. I do not like the Yankees, but they are getting a bum rap here. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Front page story in Houston Chronicle is titled: Family life comes first for player and there is a very large picture of the whole family sitting on the couch in their living room. It was not the money!! |
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| laborlitigator |
| I haven't really seen Brown pitch but in a big game, throwing out the whole injury issue, in one big playoff game on the road, who would you rather have pitch, Brown or Pettitte. |
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| laborlitigator |
| I haven't really seen Brown pitch but in a big game, throwing out the whole injury issue, in one big playoff game on the road, who would you rather have pitch, Brown or Pettitte? |
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| neide |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
I haven't really seen Brown pitch but in a big game, throwing out the whole injury issue, in one big playoff game on the road, who would you rather have pitch, Brown or Pettitte?
Pettitte. Easily. I can think of 10 pitchers I'd put above him in a playoff game. Starting with Schilling of course. |
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| mullysalt |
| Rondell White joins the Tigers for 2 yrs/ $6mil. I guess the word on the street is that the Tigers had the same offer on the table to Sanders and White. Sanders was smart and took the Cards money. He'll never regret that choice. Rondell is one of those players who if he's healthy he'll put up good numbers IF HE'S HEALTHY. I'll be schocked if Vina and White combine to play over two hundered games next year. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by neide
Pettitte. Easily. I can think of 10 pitchers I'd put above him in a playoff game. Starting with Schilling of course.
Who are the 10 pitchers you would put above Brown in a playoff game? |
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| mullysalt |
| Let's see I can name two. Maroth and Bonderman maybe Cornejo, too.:trustme: |
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| keremoner |
| It is conditionally agreed that Sox will send Nomar to ChiSox for Ordonez. That means A-Rod deal is as good as done. ESPN confirms this. What an off season for the Sox. Acquiring Schilling, Foulke, A-Rod and Ordonez. Pretty damn near a perfect line-up. |
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| mullysalt |
| Trying to put all of the BoSox moves into perspective is mind boggling. They went from a team that I can't stand to a team I might actually root for next October. They got rid of Grady, ManRam and NoMAR and added the best player in the game, One of the best "clutch" pitchers in the game(right, LL), one of the most underrated sluggers in the game in Magglio Ordonez and one of the best young closers in the AL. That is an unprecedented off season for any team in any sport. Way to go BoSox. |
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