| MDX vs H2, No Contest On Hills
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| Calihan |
I suppose this is was very juvenile of me but I couldn't resist the temptation to toy with an H2 Hummer on the Interstate yesterday. After taking my wife to the airport in Greensboro and getting on I40 for the 80 mile trip home I noticed an H2 weaving through traffic behind me at a high rate of speed. While I was doing my usual 75/80 mph the H2 passed me at a good clip, probably doing 90/100 mph. My first thought was, "Wow, that H2 is as fast as it is awesome looking". Then I noticed that it couldn't maintain that velocity on the hills. Oh Boy!! All I had to do was nudge the throttle forward until the '01 MDX downshifted to 4th at the bottom of these quarter to half mile long upgrades and I passed and flew by the H2 on these hills without breathing hard, easily hitting 110 mph before I backed off. Then I would coast along and let the H2 pass me again and wait for the next hill. The Hummer never yielded to me to let me pass on the left, so, I passed on the right, repeatedly. It was very satisfying. After doing this for 5 or 6 hills I stopped toying with the guy and went back to my 75/80 mph and he roared by doing his usual 90/100 mph on the flats and his usual 65/70 mph or so on the hills.....hee, hee. :D
H. C. |
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| DaleB |
Yes, the product of an efficient engine with a broad torque band.
The Grapevine in SoCal and Pacheco Pass in NorCal melt beneath my right foot. |
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| sgtglok |
oh man, I had an adrenaline rush just reading your post! I hope the fuel costs less in your region cause you both must've burned halva'tank on those hills, but what's fun then, right? ;)
Btw, original H2 tires are R rated (106 mph max). The guy must have a death wish or something going at 100+ speeds, not to mention the 8000+ lbs locomotive he is trying to push to the limits of a sports car |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by sgtglok
oh man, I had an adrenaline rush just reading your post! I hope the fuel costs less in your region cause you both must've burned halva'tank on those hills, but what's fun then, right? ;)
Well, this is not a daily commute by any means, and those long drives can get very boring when it is so effortless. :4: |
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| trixie |
| Great story. I suspect that Mr. H2 was busy on his cell phone and did not even notice that he was a total idiot. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by trixie
Great story. I suspect that Mr. H2 was busy on his cell phone and did not even notice that he was a total idiot.
He sounds quite sane compared to some other idiots I've run into. If he stays in the left lane and never pulls over, at least he is a predictable idiot! :cool: |
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| Markedoc |
| Try a steep hill that's not paved and see who wins! |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by Markedoc
Try a steep hill that's not paved and see who wins!
I bet you are the guy that hands out pins at balloon parties! :p |
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| Markedoc |
| I have to say while I detest the Hummer as a grocery store runner, I do like that advertisement where the kid makes a Hummer out of wood and beats the other kids down the hill to the finish line, all to the tune of The Who! |
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| DaleB |
| I agree, one of several 'good' commercials on TV. |
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| XStatic |
| Perhaps the H2 was driving so fast to make up for lost time from frequent fill ups? |
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| sandman1 |
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Originally posted by Calihan
The Hummer never yielded to me to let me pass on the left, so, I passed on the right, repeatedly.
H. C.
I have found this to be very common with Hummer owners. Maybe that is why I hate those things so much. |
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| XStatic |
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Originally posted by sandman1
I have found this to be very common with Hummer owners.
Maybe they are just too difficult to change lanes in? |
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| sgtglok |
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Originally posted by Markedoc
Try a steep hill that's not paved and see who wins!
while doing 90-100 mph??? my guess would be noone! :toothless
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Originally posted by XStatic
Maybe they are just too difficult to change lanes in?
my thoughts exactly... |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by XStatic
Perhaps the H2 was driving so fast to make up for lost time from frequent fill ups?
A great example of diminishing returns! |
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| Dale MDX |
| Ever notice in that commercial with the kid in the wood H2 that he is running downhill and there's a road barrier he's about to smash into when he's crossing the road? The scene changes right before the apparent crash and shows a shot after he's past it. The whole thing was computer created or enhanced, I assume, but it seems like they could have deleted the barrier. |
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| XStatic |
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Originally posted by Dale MDX
Ever notice in that commercial with the kid in the wood H2 that he is running downhill and there's a road barrier he's about to smash into when he's crossing the road? The scene changes right before the apparent crash and shows a shot after he's past it. The whole thing was computer created or enhanced, I assume, but it seems like they could have deleted the barrier.
I don't see the barrier, perhaps some more context... |
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| zafer |
| I think he's talking about this instant, right? |
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| DaleB |
| I think it is a "kids, don't do this at home" edit. Knowing full well us 'adults' would never be that foolish...ahem.... |
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| Captain MDX |
| I doubt my son can built that on his own :D |
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| Lance Crowley |
I guess I really don't see the H2 and as far as off road use goes it's just to big. If you really want to go way off road you do it in a Jeep CJ/Wrangler. It's the "rock hopper" of choice.
My second choice would be a Jeep GC, I've used it on some pretty tough stuff and it's right up there with the best.
Third choice would be the Lexus LX470/Land Cruiser. Rock hopping in pure luxury.
H2 would be done the line, again, it's just to big and heavy.
I just ran my X up a very steep, close to 45 degree in places, loose rock and gravel mountain in western Arizona (about 12 miles up to about 6000 feet) and it handled it with no shifting and without the VTM lock. Walked up with ease. If it had a low range I'd take it almost anywhere. It also could use a couple or more inches of clearance. That said, it's not bad at all. Went up with a couple of Jeep GC's, not a particular tough 4 wheel trail, but, a good challenge.
Just MHO of course. |
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| oceanMDX |
| Thanks for the report Lance. It just shows how wrong that Australian reviewer was after all (another thread). |
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| XStatic |
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Originally posted by zafer
I think he's talking about this instant, right?
I watched the commercial on my TiVo and the frame you show there has no barrier. Comparing it to the scene just before which shows the vehicle from behind going down the hill appears to show a perfect match in the environment. What looks like a vertical post holding up a horizontal beam appears to me to be a tuft of grass in the foreground and the winding road in the background. |
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| remydog |
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Originally posted by trixie
Great story. I suspect that Mr. H2 was busy on his cell phone and did not even notice that he was a total idiot.
You are so wrong! He was watching a video!!:eek: |
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| lerceg |
I have to agree with the few that have reported their dislike with the H2. It is really nothing more than a box on a GMC. The true Hummer is still the H1 and it is really an insult to even name the H2 a Hummer.
Correct me if I am wrong, but when GM bought Hummer, they agreed to keep one line original, the H1, and they could make another line with the same frame as their other trucks, the H2.
Also, I do not think the military would take the H2 for their missions.:rolleyes: |
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| XStatic |
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Originally posted by lerceg
Correct me if I am wrong, but when GM bought Hummer, they agreed to keep one line original, the H1, and they could make another line with the same frame as their other trucks, the H2.
As I understand it, GM bought the marketing rights of HUMMER, not the company. H1 is still manufactured by the same company, GM does the interior for the retail vehicles though. GM exclusively builds the H2 but Hummer designed the suspension to assure the performance was up to their standards. I think we should expect to see an H3 soon, a bit smaller with a wider market appeal. Perhaps it will be the real performer. Lighter, more agile, better mileage, better performance, but still with the Hummer suspension design.
I think they are also planning a truck like platform (SUT) as well.... |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by lerceg
I...Also, I do not think the military would take the H2 for their missions.:rolleyes:
Your right lerceg. Reminds me of a news report that stated the non-armored Hummers that were being blown to bits, were in fact being named "Dummers" :D |
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| Dale MDX |
Zafer-
Yes, your screen capture shows the apparent barrier that I saw in the ad. I don't know what it is, or course, but it didn't look like grass or the road watching on TV. (No slow motion, TIVO, etc.) It was only there for a fraction of a second, I think. Of course, it doesn't make much sense that they would actually run their wooden H2 model into a real barrier - they would have found a better spot. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Calihan
I suppose this is was very juvenile of me but I couldn't resist the temptation to toy with an H2 Hummer on the Interstate yesterday. After taking my wife to the airport in Greensboro and getting on I40 for the 80 mile trip home I noticed an H2 weaving through traffic behind me at a high rate of speed. While I was doing my usual 75/80 mph the H2 passed me at a good clip, probably doing 90/100 mph. My first thought was, "Wow, that H2 is as fast as it is awesome looking". Then I noticed that it couldn't maintain that velocity on the hills. Oh Boy!! All I had to do was nudge the throttle forward until the '01 MDX downshifted to 4th at the bottom of these quarter to half mile long upgrades and I passed and flew by the H2 on these hills without breathing hard, easily hitting 110 mph before I backed off. Then I would coast along and let the H2 pass me again and wait for the next hill. The Hummer never yielded to me to let me pass on the left, so, I passed on the right, repeatedly. It was very satisfying. After doing this for 5 or 6 hills I stopped toying with the guy and went back to my 75/80 mph and he roared by doing his usual 90/100 mph on the flats and his usual 65/70 mph or so on the hills.....hee, hee. :D
H. C.
Funny thing is that after that little duel, he probably burned his whole fuel tank. :2: |
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| twosomeca |
| This may sound even more foolish than the original post, but I find that when I drive the MDX, I drive very conservatively. I don't know if it is just the fact that I am not used to the ride or what. I'll do 75 or so on the fwy, but I just find myself taking it easy. Of course, almost everytime I have driven the MDX, I've had my wife and baby in the vehicle. That must have something to do with it. I'll have to live vicariously through you guys. :D I get my fill during the workday with my "other car." :1: |
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| harv |
| No contest is right, the two hummers that I've been in would not top out over 83MPH. You must have run across a racer. |
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