| nicksan |
I've been calling up local dealers here in NY and I decided to take my 2001 MDX to Acura of Manhattan for my 30k service. It's kind of ironic that they ended up offering the best price given they are in Manhattan and everything there is expensive.
These are the prices I got from 4 dealers in NY.
-Acura of Manhattan : $395
-Acura of Valley Stream : $489
-Paragon Acura : $595
-Ralley Acura : $600
That's a wide range of prices.
I have no idea what's going on.
All I know is that Manhattan had a pretty good deal. I'm sure I'm still getting ripped off, but not as much as Ralley...$200 more than Manhattan.
I'm telling you this is ridiculous for there to be a $200 difference. Either Ralley is severaly ripping people off or they are doing some "extra" work, whatever that is...
I think manhattan probably stays "by-the-book". I heard they are highly regarded so maybe not ripping another hole in the customer's butt is the reason why they have a good reputation, again, whatever that means in the world of the dealerships.
Anyways, I jumped on the $395. I think it's still expensive but it sure beats paying $600 at Ralley's, or $595 at the horrible Paragon.
Hope this information helps anybody in the NY area looking for the 30k service... |
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| JeffK |
Did they give you a breakdown on what they intend to do for $395 + tax?
I am only at 13,000 miles so I have not checked my owners manual.
Only after comparing what they intend to do, with the work set forth in your owner's manual can you determine if the $395 + tax is a ripoff - although it is 50% cheaper than Rallye - where by the way I leased my '03 from.
Personally, I never, repeat never go in for a 7,500/15,000/30,000 mile service.
I always read my manual and make a list of work I WANT DONE!. My experience is, that more than 80% of the "7,500/15,000/30,000 miles service" are inspections, which you can do or while the car is under warranty, as yours is, will be or should be done by the dealer at no charge. |
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| nicksan |
JeffK,
They told me they pretty much do everything. But like you said, whatever that means for $395.
When I bring it in on Monday I will make sure I write down what I see in the manual for 30k service.
The only reason I'm bringing it in is b/c I figured it would be better to follow the schedule so that I won't have a hassle on my hands when it comes to warranties, etc.
Manhattan Acura is supposed to be a pretty good shop.
Who knows...
All I know is that I am not going to pay $600 to Ralley for this...no way...I guess they can get away with that b/c that area is nice and they cater to the wealthier people.
I'm strictly middle-income...I can't be paying $600. |
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| nicksan |
JeffK,
Looking at your profile, I can see that you have a mouthwatering portfolio of cars. That's great! Wow!!!
I just have my 01 MDX and 99 3.2TL...
I guess we live in different worlds!!!
Thanks for the info. |
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| jumpie71 |
Nicksan,
I agreed with you. I made an appointment with Manhattan Acura this week to have a 15K maintenance done (even though, the mileage on my 2002 MDX is 13500). I was quoted $60 less than AutoplazaMall in Brooklyn. They are pretty much doing the same work. I can't believe it's so much cheaper in Manhattan. I heard that Manhattan Acura would give you a loaner car as well.
If they charge so much, why the hell are we going to them. Is there any reliable neighorhood mechanic that specializes in Honda/Acura..just a thought...I can't stand paying these kind of price for a mere oil change, as JeffK mentioned, majority of the work is inspection.
Jumpie71.. |
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| JeffK |
Dear nicksan:
I have made this point on many other posts: Before you go to the dealer for service, read your owner's manual!
Then write down the work you want done as per the owner's manual. Get a quote on that work.
If the dealer suggest doing additional work, ask him where in the owner's manual it says it is necessary. Of course, having already read the manual, the additional work will not be necessary.
FYI, I have just checked my owner's manual. For 30K
Oil change with filter $30
Replace air cleaner - very easy to do yourself - call Tim and buy it. Should be less than $30.
Replace transmission fluid - $50 (should not be more)
Replace dust and pollen filter - ?? ($50???)
The balance of the work is nothing more than inspections of drive belts, brakes, etc.
When you bring the car in, because it is still under warranty, any of the worn parts will be replaced at no cost. There is no reason to pay for this type of inspection - which I doubt is even done.
By listing the work that you want done as opposed to doing a "30,000 mile service", you should pay no more than $150 to $200.
Remember, service is a "Blind item" (you have seen the different prices) and one of the last places where the dealer makes a ton of money.
JeffK |
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| nicksan |
JeffK,
Point well taken.
On Monday, I will go to my appointment with the list and compare that with whatever they intend to do.
If the lists differ, I will have them do everything my list and ask them why they need to do extra and any warranty questions.
That said, I am also a bit surprised that Acura of Manhattan, of all places, would have the best price!
Call me a s*cker...but I do actually feel a bit more comfortable brining my Acura in and having checked out by them rather than bringing it to my local mechanic.
I have an extended warranty on this thing so I don't want anything ruining that as well.
Hopefully I end up being ripped off a little, as opposed to a lot...I think you have no choice...only to what degree you get ripped. |
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| JeffK |
On the contrary, as long as my MDX is under warranty, Acura will do the servicing, including oil changes, even if it is a few bucks more.
First, this way any factory recalls will be done.
Second, as I have posted before, all service writers are on commission. The more they write up, the higher their pay. Hence, the "30,000 mile service".
But having said that, when the mechanic is changing the oil, etc. he is looking for things to be done. In effect, they are always doing a visual inspection, looking for broken or worn parts.
This work is then done, usually without notify you, so when you arrive to pick up the car, the service writer says:
"Oh, by the way we noticed your (fill in the blank) was worn and we replaced it at no cost to you under warranty".
They make money and you feel good!
Once you understand this practice, you will never ever pay for inspections again! |
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| phins2rt |
quote:
Originally posted by JeffK
On the contrary, as long as my MDX is under warranty, Acura will do the servicing, including oil changes, even if it is a few bucks more.
First, this way any factory recalls will be done.
Second, as I have posted before, all service writers are on commission. The more they write up, the higher their pay. Hence, the "30,000 mile service".
But having said that, when the mechanic is changing the oil, etc. he is looking for things to be done. In effect, they are always doing a visual inspection, looking for broken or worn parts.
This work is then done, usually without notify you, so when you arrive to pick up the car, the service writer says:
"Oh, by the way we noticed your (fill in the blank) was worn and we replaced it at no cost to you under warranty".
They make money and you feel good!
Once you understand this practice, you will never ever pay for inspections again!
Excellent point JeffK!:29: |
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| nicksan |
JeffK,
I see your point.
You could make the somewhat "corruptive" ways of any Acura dealer to work for you. So you pay a few extra dollars for an oild change and have them check up on other stuff around that area...I get it.
Anyways, I brought in the MDX this morning. They quoted me $595, instead of the $395 quote I got over the phone. I was armed with my piece of paper that had the required service from the manual, and told the guy that's all I wanted done, plus anything that is included extra with the $395 service. Apparenlty they have differenct levels of 30k service. Very fishy...
He gave me a description of the services done @ $595.
Here is a list of things that are extra from the services to be performed as mentioned in the manual:
Inspect Wipers
Replace VTM-4 Rear Differential Fluid.
Replace PCV Valve
Replace Cabin Filter/Dust Pollen Filter
Coolant Service
Transmission Fluid
Brake Flush
Fuel Injector System
Visual Inspection
So I'm not going to have these done. Is there any point in time when I would need these services? |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by nicksan
JeffK,
I see your point.
You could make the somewhat "corruptive" ways of any Acura dealer to work for you. So you pay a few extra dollars for an oild change and have them check up on other stuff around that area...I get it.
Anyways, I brought in the MDX this morning. They quoted me $595, instead of the $395 quote I got over the phone. I was armed with my piece of paper that had the required service from the manual, and told the guy that's all I wanted done, plus anything that is included extra with the $395 service. Apparenlty they have differenct levels of 30k service. Very fishy...
He gave me a description of the services done @ $595.
Here is a list of things that are extra from the services to be performed as mentioned in the manual:
Inspect Wipers
Replace VTM-4 Rear Differential Fluid.
Replace PCV Valve
Replace Cabin Filter/Dust Pollen Filter
Coolant Service
Transmission Fluid
Brake Flush
Fuel Injector System
Visual Inspection
So I'm not going to have these done. Is there any point in time when I would need these services?
Inspect Wipers: DIY
Replace VTM-4 Rear Differential Fluid: DIY ($25) or dealer $70-80
Replace PCV Valve: WHY? Is it in the manual? If so DIY or dealer $15-35
Replace Cabin Filter/Dust Pollen Filter: DIY $30 Dealer $45?
Coolant Service: Full flush new fluid about $70-80
Fuel Injector System: Questionable..but even at that about $80
Brake Flush: Always a good idea every 2 years, about $40-50
Transmission Oil? : Add some, 1 X drain, 3 X drain? Flush....
$30-140..depending on which it is..or DIY...3X about $50-60
So as you can see, worse case about $500.
Have the dealer do the Brake and Coolant flushes, and do the rest your self: About $200-300 depending on whether they do the fuel inj. cleaning. |
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| nicksan |
OK, I found out exactly what the deal is between the $395 service I was quoted over the phone and the $595 at the dealer.
The $595 includes Transmission Flush and Coolant service. Not sure what the specifics of any of them.
So from what I can see, what is included in the $395 service is:
-Change oil and filter.
-Inspect/Adjust tire psi.
-Top off all fluid levels
-inspect belts and adjust
-inspect wipers
-balance and rotate tires
-check and adjust parking brake
-inpsect brakes and linings
-replace vtm-4 rear differential fluid
-replace air filter
-replace pcv valve
-replace cabin filter/dust pollen filter
Visual Inspection on the following:
-Tie rods ends
-steering gear box and boots
-suspension components
-drive shaft boots
-brake hoses and lines including abs
-all fluid levels and condition of fluids
-coolant system hoses and connections
-exhaust system
-fule lines and connections
-lights and controls
-vehicle underbody
That said, I have read through other posts and I realize that some of these items are pretty much rip-offs or I would be able to do stuff myself.
But that's what I see on the list for $395.
So a question for you guys since I'm a dummy when it comes to these things!
When should I have the following serviced? (My 2001 MDX is at 30,070 miles right now)
-Tranny fluid
-Coolant system
-Brake Flush
-Fuel Injector System
Acura of Manhattan has a price of $889.95 for 30k service plus these 4 services...
They have all these packages, but apparenlty the $395 "deal" I got is not part of their menu. So I don't even know how I got the quote over the phone. When I went to the service dept they were very informal about this. I told him how I had a quote for $395 and he was very quick in saying that he can do that price if they do not include Tranny flush and coolant....like they've done that before.
Thanks
Nick |
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| MDX350 |
quote:
Originally posted by JeffK
Remember, service is a "Blind item" (you have seen the different prices) and one of the last places where the dealer makes a ton of money.
JeffK
Listen to JeffK guys, he is ABSOLUTELY right! The amount of "ripping customers off" that goes on in the service department at dealers even puts the sales guys to shame.
JUST get the fluid changes as per the owners manual, and you'll be fine, warranty wise as well. You'll save yourself at least $5000 over the life of the vehicle (assuming life to be about 200K miles). |
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| cycler15 |
Here are my thoughts....
-Tranny fluid (change every 60,000 is fine)
-Coolant system (change once every 2 years)
-Brake Flush (change once every 2 years)
-Fuel Injector System (this is debatable.... some say it's not necessary, some say it helps performance) |
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| evoge |
quote:
Originally posted by cycler15
Here are my thoughts....
-Tranny fluid (change every 60,000 is fine))
Really? Or do you mean "Change tranny every 60k"? |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by cycler15
Here are my thoughts....
-Tranny fluid (change every 60,000 is fine)
-Coolant system (change once every 2 years)
-Brake Flush (change once every 2 years)
-Fuel Injector System (this is debatable.... some say it's not necessary, some say it helps performance)
I agree except on the tranny service. I don't think you should go longer than 30K without at least a 3X drain. Remember, these trannies tend to contaminate early with what we think is some clutch material, added to the fact there is no conventional in line filter
only an internal fine mesh screen called a strainer.
Unless you are saying to do a 3X drain, but a full flush every 60K.
I do not think a flush is that much of an advantage over the 3X. A viable alternative, definitely.
Who would you say 60K ? Even the manual says 45K for non severe service, or is it different for the O4s? |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by evoge
Really? Or do you mean "Change tranny every 60k"?
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by MDX350
Listen to JeffK guys, he is ABSOLUTELY right! The amount of "ripping customers off" that goes on in the service department at dealers even puts the sales guys to shame.
JUST get the fluid changes as per the owners manual, and you'll be fine, warranty wise as well. You'll save yourself at least $5000 over the life of the vehicle (assuming life to be about 200K miles).
Well, assuming you have a warranty after 100K.....
I would get tranny fluid changes earlier and coolant system and brake fluid flushes every 2 years. But that's just me...if you are giving it up at the end of a 3 or 4 year lease, go strictly by the book. |
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| cycler15 |
quote:
Originally posted by cycler15
Here are my thoughts....
-Tranny fluid (change every 60,000 is fine)
-Coolant system (change once every 2 years)
-Brake Flush (change once every 2 years)
-Fuel Injector System (this is debatable.... some say it's not necessary, some say it helps performance)
You guys are right... I would probably change my tranny fluid every 30k.
I was thinking of my old Tahoe where I think the manual said change the tranny fluid every 60-75k.
Do you guys ever change the power steering fluid? |
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| MDX350 |
quote:
Originally posted by cycler15
Do you guys ever change the power steering fluid?
I would like to know that too! Never heard of recommended intervals for power steering systems though.
For other things though, stick to the adage - don't fix something that is not broken (I am refering to the fuel injector system service). Fluid and filter changes - yes, everything else - fix when it breaks, IF it breaks. |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by MDX350
I would like to know that too! Never heard of recommended intervals for power steering systems though.
For other things though, stick to the adage - don't fix something that is not broken (I am refering to the fuel injector system service). Fluid and filter changes - yes, everything else - fix when it breaks, IF it breaks.
I have it flushed abuot every 3 years. Did it on other cars and never had a problem of any kind. Maybe it's not necessary, but like any hydraulic fluid it will loose some of it's properties as well as absorb moisture over time. Also some wear contamination. In all likely-hood it will last past 100k, miles, after the warranty is up.
I like the idea of fresh fluids at work in all systems. PS is just one more.
Again, if you don't plan to go past 100k with the vehicle, and want to trade-up, etc. it is not cost-effective IMHO.
I guess I am an Over Killer....vs. a Serial Killer |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by MDX350
I would like to know that too! Never heard of recommended intervals for power steering systems though.
For other things though, stick to the adage - don't fix something that is not broken (I am refering to the fuel injector system service). Fluid and filter changes - yes, everything else - fix when it breaks, IF it breaks.
I have it flushed about every 3 years. Did it on other cars and never had a problem of any kind. Maybe it's not necessary, but like any hydraulic fluid it will loose some of it's properties as well as absorb moisture over time. Also some wear contamination. In all likely-hood it will last past 100k, miles, after the warranty is up.
I like the idea of fresh fluids at work in all systems. PS is just one more.
Again, if you don't plan to go past 100k with the vehicle, and want to trade-up, etc. it is not cost-effective IMHO.
I guess I am an Over Killer....vs. a Serial Killer |
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| nicksan |
OK. Got my MDX back. After a $30 rebate, I ended up paying $365.
Anyways, I don't know if it is because I am being overly sensitive now that I got it back from them, but I've noticed that the MDX makes a lot of noise in the interior...like plastic sounds or leather sounds, whatever. It's just annoying. As I was driving home from Acura I noticed some rattling sound around the dash. I never found out what it was and I don't even know if it was always there. All I know is that I statred to notice it yesterday after I got it back from Acura.
I guess I'll bring it in another time since something like that is probably covered under warranty, no?
Also, I asked them to take a look at the "thumping" or "clunking" sound that I hear and feel through the floor whenever I brake hard or go over bumps. They didn't do too much...in fact I think it may be worse...again my sensitivity to these things are heightened right now since I got it back yesterday.
Lastly, it's annoying how the side airbag lights go off depending on how someone is seated in the seats. Acura said that was normal...
Ah well...
Anyways, the things I didn't have them do, tranny fluid, brake fluid, etc...the ones that you guys have been mentioning, do you think I had better take it to Acura or let a local guy do it?
Thanks
Nick |
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| evoge |
Sorry, but you know dealer service techs have never heard a squeak or rattle that wasn't "normal". However, the side airbag light is normal, but I'll admit it is overly sensitive to any movement.
The only thing that might make you feel better is to take a long drive in a clapped-out 1970 VW Bug or Chevy Nova. When you get back in the X, you'll be amazed at how quiet and well-built it is.:) |
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| sgtglok |
quote:
Originally posted by nicksan
Also, I asked them to take a look at the "thumping" or "clunking" sound that I hear and feel through the floor whenever I brake hard or go over bumps. They didn't do too much...
nick, just curious have you ever had your MDX 'cured' of THUD??? it was a common problem with 2001 and early 2002 models - there is a ton of info, just search for thud (and there is a TSB from Acura). mine was fixed 2 years ago, along with breaks 'clunking'.
i'm at 30k myself, but will start with my original dealer, Hillside Acura in Bayside, LI. It's almost 50 miles roundtrip from Brooklyn, but it was all worth for me on every occasion that required more than a simple oil change (i get it for free there for 4 years, but for just an oil change it's not worth the trip) |
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| nicksan |
sgtglok,
I went as far as bringing a printout of the TSB for the "thud".
They said they will check it out.
I don't know what they checked out b/c it's still there.
I'm not sure if it is worse...maybe I'm just moer sensitive to the thud now that I have it in my mind.
But it is there. I can't reproduce it 100%, but driving the MDX for 5 minutes will yield the thud sound.
Aside from all that, I'm starting to notice plastic sounds, leather squeeking...etc. Upon careful listening the MDX is a noisy car.
I have a 99 TL...same thing. Noise all the time...
For a car over $40k that's a bit disappointing.
I still love my MDX...but Acura needs to take a look at quality especially the interior...
BTW, I swear my MDX feels worse now that I got the 30k done. Maybe I'm just paranoid.
Where did you get your thud problem fixed? |
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| sgtglok |
I had my THUD fixed by ROSENTHAL ACURA
in MD while I was on training there - I guess, I am not a good source for local dealers for that fix. I had my LEAKING MIRRORS fixed by HILLSIDE ACURA in LI. They also fixed CLUNKING BREAKS without me even mentioning the problem.
Overall, I am pleased with their service department. Give them a shot - it's 1/2 closer from Queens than from Brooklyn.
I agree, interior of MDX is of mediocre quality - I suggest using Lexol products for leather seats. Just treated mine after squeeking for 3 months. Feels much softer and quiter.
I am starting to notice the signs of aging after 30k. When cold, my MDX is making too much noise in engine compartment. Bought a can of WD40, opened the hood and sprayed some gears. Better now. |
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| nicksan |
sgtglok ,
Thanks for all the suggestions.
Now that I think about it, I think I may have the brake "clunk" too b/c the only time it happens is when I am breaking...it's not really a "thud"...well it's a cross between a "thud" and a "clunk". Very annoying..
I guess maybe b/c it is getting colder that I am hearing all kinds of squeeks and such inside the MDX. That's quite annoying as well...makes me feel like I'm driving a $15k vehicle!
The only thing that the "X" has going for it is the styling...I really like how it looks on the outside.
Did you find out from Hillside Acura what was causing the "clunk"? |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by sgtglok
When cold, my MDX is making too much noise in engine compartment. Bought a can of WD40, opened the hood and sprayed some gears. Better now.
Which ones? |
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| schow07024 |
Just got my 30k service done in Acura of Manhattan. Paid $380 (tax included) for the service after the 15% mailer discount. I know it is still high compare to the DIY, but this is the best deal I can find from the Acura dealer. The next door Honda dealer wants $650 for the service.
Here is the list:
--oil and filter.
--replace vtm-4 rear differential fluid
--replace tranny fluid
--coolant flush
--replace air filter
--replace pollen filter
--balance and rotate tires
--inspect belts and adjust
--check and adjust parking brake
--other inspect this and that |
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| edepa |
I'm "almost" done with my 30k service with Hillside Acura. I have stuck with the fluid type changes someone posted earlier, but I held off on the transmission flush since they wanted me to come back for the tranny recall, which they did just yesterday, June 15, when they put in a jet kit, took the pictures to send to honda/acura, but never flushed my transmission fluid as I had asked. I have to call them today to find out why they didn't do it, hopefully not due to a questionable photo of 2nd gear (but i thought no jet kit was installed if the tran would be changed later?).
Well, back to my 30k service on June 5th. I stuck with fluids, oil change/filter, which always includes a broad range of 'inspections' at hillside acura anyhow, vtm fluid change, and tire rotation. That plus NY State Inspection, which also covers alot of components and requires 'eyeballing'. I get free oil changes from Hillside, so the bill totalled only $135 with tax, a very fair deal since the state inspection was around 35-40 bucks of that price. In addition, I changed the air filter and pollen filter purchased from Tim, I guess that cost around $45 in parts. I assume the transmission fluid change will add another 50-100, if i can eventually get it done(unless they intend to change my transmission????). Total cost for 30k service will come t0 $225-275 range. I can't complain :D |
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| nicksan |
edepa,
Man, I brought in my 99 TL to Rallye Acura to get the recall done on the ignition and was "suckered" into doing the 75k service. I don't know why I'm such a sucker for sweet walking service reps.
$410 - 10% = about $370 or so plus tax.
Ouch...and that doesn't include tranny flush since it doesn't need one until 90k, and was done at 60k already by previous owner.
Previous owner left a copy of Hillside Acuras prices for maintenance service...and they had this schedule "C" and cost $159. But I don't think they do everything by the book...it's missing some things like Coolant...but probably not worth the $200 difference.
I was originally going to bring it to Hillside but they are kinda out of the way. Since I was already at Rallye, I just said F it...I mean they are a reliable dealer I know...but also expensive. I told them abuot Hillside and they mentioned that Hillside is a small shop but also the service "C" doesn't really include everything...like coolant...so you get what you paid for.
At that moment I was thinking that $159 was too good a price to be true and decided to go with Rallye.
I was dropping off the TL at the same time I was picking up my 2001 MDX, which had the Tranny recall done and front struts replaced. They did a good job and washed my car so...
But no loaner car...what's up with that?
Anyways, can you tell me more about Hillside? I want to do a accurate comparision between them and Rallye, and Manhattan...because I can't pay $400 ~ $600 each time I get the darn thing serviced!!! |
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| edepa |
quote:
Originally posted by nicksan
edepa,
Anyways, can you tell me more about Hillside? I want to do a accurate comparision between them and Rallye, and Manhattan...because I can't pay $400 ~ $600 each time I get the darn thing serviced!!!
To be honest, I have pretty much 'unbundled' the various services, just asking for just what I need to have done, and I haven't needed any repair work, so I can't give you a full picture of Hillside. They seem fairly priced on things like vtm4 fluid changes, rotations, and oil changes. If I call in advance and do a midweek service, I've been able to get a loaner, but I purchased from them, you'd have to check their policy generally. I've been able to do many of the services on saturday mornings and just wait, and they have been pretty good on the turn around. They always ask if I have "time" for them to wash the car, and I usually do, but they really don't do a great wash job any how, although it is cleaner than it was when done. I assume you know their location, on service road to sunrise highway in bayshore, just east of sagtikos parkway. I am satisfied so far with the service department. |
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| nicksan |
That's great.
Yeah, most Acura dealers tell me that if I didn't purchase from them, then no loaner. I think that's a really crappy attitude...cuz that instantly makes it harder for me to take my X for service...and they lose out on a potential long-term Acura.
Case in point, Rallye Acura, no Loaner...I will continue to look for a dealer that will give me a loaner...and once I find one, will stick to that one.
I will also call Corporate Acura on this one.
I don't think there is a problem like this with Lexus, Mercedes. As long as you are under warranty you can take it to any dealer for a loaner...I think...not 100% sure. But my Lexus dealer is located in NY so not a problem.
Anyways, as you know, I had my 30k done by Manhattan Acura. I didn't have them do VTM/AT flush since they were going to charge me a lot...I mean the basic 30k service plus these major fluids service would have totalled to close to $900. Holy smokes.
So maybe I will call Hillside up to have them do whatever Manhattan missed. I had my tranny "whatever-ed" at valvoline. Maybe that was a completely idiotic thing to do...cuz I was brain dead that day and didn't know what kind of flush...probably a fill-up or a 1x flush since it was under $100.
I feel like such an as* doing that!!! But again, it's also b/c of the loaner car issue. Everytime I go to get service, I need transportation home. Lucky I have 2 cars and a wife that is willing to accomodate me...but that's still a pain you know?
I should have taken my TL to Hillside for $159. I mean I'm selling the car anyways...but me being Mr. Morally correct...wanted to do everything by the books before I sell. I am even having all the recalls/fixes done as well. Oh well. Anything to make it more attractive to potential buyers... |
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| edepa |
| I'd call hillside and check their policies. I work in Manhattan, and while I haven't availed myself of the service, I believe they will drop you at the LIRR, I assume bayshore station. That could be an alternative that works for you. Good luck, EDepa |
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