| acuratex |
2003 Navigation delivered with car 06/2003
(on screen) navigation ver: 1.023
(on screen) database ver: 20020930
(on label ft of disk) ver: 3.20 A
2003 Navigation DVD upgrade for '03 cars arrived 12/2003
(on screen) software ver: 1.100
(on screen) database ver: 20030902
(on label ft of disk) ver: 3.30 F
Either of these sites will lead you to the order form for the update.
http://www.navtech.com/vehicle/partner_acura.html
https://www.ahm-ownerlink.com/login.asp?brand=acura
I haven't used it enough to know if it's that much better, but it couldn't be any worse.
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| pdempsey |
| Has anyone purchased the new DVD and installed it? I just ordered it, but would like to hear from someone if they have already tried it out. |
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| vcolangelo |
On another thread, I posted my concerns about possible problems with the voice Navi upgrade, like Acura/Alpine had with the new non-voice CD. Since it requires a dealer visit to re-install the original CD, I'm going to wait a while to be sure it works first.
Acura told me that the voice Navi is a functional match to my wife's 04TL Navi mapping capabilities (except no audio and a/c commands); which has:
1. The name of my town, which was incorporated in 1996.
2. My office street and address, which was built in 2001.
3. New restaurants that we go to.
NONE OF WHICH ARE IN MY 03 MDA DATABASE
So the good news is that the voice Navi upgrade seems to bring the Navi database forward around 5 to 6 years (finally), but the bad news is that I'm gun shy to buy right away because of the screw-up on the non-voice upgrade. There are also some new voice commands, but I find myself using the voice commands less and less.
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| Warzau |
| We're starting once more to get multiple threads on the same topic. Why dont we keep the discussion re the new navi disc. in the link Zafer posted. |
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| pdempsey |
Been using the 2003 update for about a week. Here's what I notice. Some of my comparisons may be wrong as I did not reinstall the old disk to be sure:
No real difference in speed. (The car goes just as fast :-)
Seems like the font for the streets is a little bigger and heaver in 1/8th and 1/20th.
I like the little position indicator when the screen expands when about 500 feet from the turn. Instead of just the arrow indicating the turn, a small indicator in a small circle travels up the arrow.
I noticed the ability to turn off voice on setup screen #3, and thought they finally give us the ability to turn off the voice guidance, but that's not the case. It must be the voice recognition (which can be turned off by just not saying anything.) Why would they turn off voice rec?
The position of my office seems to be more accurate on the map. Previously it was about 100 ft. off.
Installation was uneventful, which is good. Basicaly you just put the disk in and give it a chance to initialize, then drive on a digitized road.
I believe it now understands voice commands for all the buttons that are on the screen, except the typing keyboard, which would have been the best update, had they done that. The buttons I've tried worked fine.
That's all I've noticed. |
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| ndahbar |
Ok, of course, I did a search on the topic, and I'm sorry but I just found too much info/crap/posts.
ALL I am interested in is...as a 2003 owner (so I have the "new" system) and living in Boston, should I buy the latest DVD from the dealer? This question is COMPLETELY dependent on whether or not you know if the update contains Big Dig updates. :p
OTHERWISE...I could not care less. I will wait till end of 2004 to get the next update. That will surely have nice things compared to what I have now. |
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| Soroosh |
Let me ask you this question. What do you expect to get from the update? IMHO if you can spare the $200, buy it. I bought the update and am using it for more than a week now. I think it's really good. I love the improvements on the voice commands. Basically you can do everything without touching the screen. :cool:
The new (read -- improved) interface is OK. It has some fancy stuff which are nice to have, but not really essential. Haven't tried the unverified road guidance thing. Calculation speed is about the same if not equal. Coverage wise, I live in Los Angeles and everything is mapped around my neighborhood so I didn't get a chance to verify the improvements yet.
Overall I'm happy with my update, but I maintain that it was not an essential update for me. Just wanted to have it. :p |
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| zafer |
Soroosh,
When you can, would you mind checking to see if these address exist in the update please? Thanx!
1510 North Pointe Drive
Durham, NC
10840 ROUND BROOK CIR
RALEIGH NC
5508 RUSH SPRINGS CT
RALEIGH NC
9820 Leesville Road
Raleigh, NC
8811 Brier Creek Parkway
Raleigh, NC
10000 WYNGATE RIDGE DR
RALEIGH NC |
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| jimfr |
quote:
Originally posted by Soroosh
Basically you can do everything without touching the screen. :cool:
Hi,
Is it possible to go to the Trip Computer screen via voice navigation?
Thanks in advance! |
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| Wazowski |
| Whoa, whoa, whoa . . . where have I been?! Is there a navigation update for 03+ owners?! For some reason I thought there was only an update for folks with the "old system." I guess I must have been under a rock or not paying attention something. Shame on me! :1pat: Where do we get the update? You can just point me to the other thread I obviously missed! Thanks in advance and sorry for being so clueless! :( |
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| ndahbar |
quote:
Originally posted by Wazowski
Whoa, whoa, whoa . . . where have I been?! Is there a navigation update for 03+ owners?! For some reason I thought there was only an update for folks with the "old system." I guess I must have been under a rock or not paying attention something. Shame on me! :1pat: Where do we get the update? You can just point me to the other thread I obviously missed! Thanks in advance and sorry for being so clueless! :(
Apparently the "hype" has caused many-an-MDX-owner to think it's just an update for 01/02 Navis. But it certainly seems now that there is a separate DVD update disk for the 03 people that makes it identical to the 04 navi.
Well as you guys know, the Big Dig is the biggest headache for Alpine in ALL the USA I bet to progam in there these days, with such massive size and changes every month literally. I wonder if they got the new underground tunnels in the update!
Well, if I don't get it, I'll most certainly buy the next release as soon as it comes out (hopefully Sept 04?) |
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| Steameng8 |
quote:
Originally posted by jimfr
Hi,
Is it possible to go to the Trip Computer screen via voice navigation?
Thanks in advance!
Yes you hit the sterring wheel switch and say " Display Information",
then you hit the sterring wheel switch and say " Display Trip Computer". You can also hit the the sterring wheel "Back" switch to go backwards. |
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| zafer |
quote:
Originally posted by Wazowski
Whoa, whoa, whoa . . . where have I been?! Is there a navigation update for 03+ owners?!
Actually, the `03 update for Voice Enabled systems was being discussed in the general update thread (http://acuramdx.org/forums/showthre...92&pagenumber=2) and Warzau was closing any other related new threads(http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...&threadid=15132), but since the search function is busted since the server move, the forum is being flooded with new redundant threads.
As far as I can tell the search function can only search threads that have been created or that have been replied to after the move. |
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| jimfr |
quote:
Originally posted by Steameng8
Yes you hit the sterring wheel switch and say " Display Information",
then you hit the sterring wheel switch and say " Display Trip Computer". You can also hit the the sterring wheel "Back" switch to go backwards.
Thanks! Gonna place my order today :) |
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| Wazowski |
quote:
Originally posted by zafer
Actually, the `03 update for Voice Enabled systems was being discussed in the general update thread (http://acuramdx.org/forums/showthre...92&pagenumber=2) and Warzau was closing any other related new threads(http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...&threadid=15132), but since the search function is busted since the server move, the forum is being flooded with new redundant threads.
As far as I can tell the search function can only search threads that have been created or that have been replied to after the move.
Thanks, Zafer! |
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| Soroosh |
Zafer --
I had a chance to check out the addresses. Only one one of them is mapped.
10000 WYNGATE RIDGE DR
RALEIGH NC |
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| BlueStreak |
Lets hear from every 03 owner who's performed the update personally.
Issues? Problems? Describe the process, please. I've heard it it fails through to completion, it's a trip back to the dealer. |
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| Soroosh |
My installation was very easy with no problems. Eject the old one, put the new one in, wait 30 sec. for the system to initialize. Then drove the car around the block for NAV to recognize where we are :rolleyes: and that was it.
However, I found an error in the new database which WAS correct in the old dB. 110 freeway in SoCal is shown as 710 in the 210-110-134 junction. Could be a typo or something, but it proves that they overhauled the database and mistakes were made. I'm positive that the old DVD was showing the right freeway, since this is my daily route to work and I use the NAV all the time. :3: |
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| Sir P |
quote:
Originally posted by Soroosh
I'm positive that the old DVD was showing the right freeway, since this is my daily route to work and I use the NAV all the time. :3:
This is funny :) Now with the new overhauled DVD there is a chance you won't know how to get to work. "Boss, I could not find the office!" ;) |
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| zafer |
| You think there'll be another update out next fall? I'd hate to buy this minor update for $200, and then see a better one available in a year. |
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| djw |
Looks like another job of clever planing on the manufacturing side. One has to wonder why no one poaches the business from these guys. It seems they have the monopoly so service/support isn't really required.
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From: acuranavidiscs@alpine-usa.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:44 AM
Subject: Your Acura DVD ROM
Thank you for ordering the upgrade navigation disc. Due to the high demand for this
product we are temporarily out of stock. We anticipate we will be able to ship your order
during the second week of Feb.
Your credit card will not be billed until the disc ships. If you’d like to keep your order
no action is required on your part.
If you wish to cancel this order or have questions about your order, email:
acuranavidiscs@alpine-usa.com or phone: 888-549-3798 option 2
Thank you very much. We appreciate your understanding. |
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| dvilla |
I'm planning to go to Niagra (on the Canadian side) during my kid's spring break.
For those who already have the navi upgrade for 01 X, does it cover parts of Canada? |
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| bob_weather |
ndahbar, I have an 04' MDX with Navi and the new tunnels do not show up correctly. The loop ramp from the Tobin Bridge onto the old expressway shows up though.
I would wait until the next update or the one after that to get all the BIG DIG stuff updated. Also, I've got the 'bread crumbs' all over the place from going through the new tunnels.
Bob
quote:
Originally posted by ndahbar
Well as you guys know, the Big Dig is the biggest headache for Alpine in ALL the USA I bet to progam in there these days, with such massive size and changes every month literally. I wonder if they got the new underground tunnels in the update!
Well, if I don't get it, I'll most certainly buy the next release as soon as it comes out (hopefully Sept 04?)
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| djw |
The dvd manufacturer called me today after I had repeatedly requested a status on the mid-feb ship date for the '03 Nav DVD update.
The date for the '03 update is now mid-April. |
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| Dick at Incline |
quote:
Originally posted by bob_weather
Also, I've got the 'bread crumbs' all over the place from going through the new tunnels.
Bob
I had lots of bread crumbs which made a mess on the display, so I just turned the bread crumbs off and that got rid of them. |
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| tangible |
In order to provide accurate Big Dig information, the new software would need to get on the Internet every morning, go to Boston.com, and read about who's just been indicted or fired over the latest construction delay or cost overrun scandal. By merging that information with the published schedule it should be able to route you appropriately.
Actually, I kinda like the existing map software, which believes my MDX is swimming across the Fort Point Channel as I head into South Boston in the new Mass Pike section. It's my only "off-road" experience.
Seriously, I've been told that most of the Big Dig changes are not reflected in this new version. My personal interest is in the Lee/Lenox/Pittsfield MA area. I would love to hear from anyone who has info about improvements there. The current system has only the most major roads. |
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| Arzoo |
quote:
Originally posted by Soroosh
Basically you can do everything without touching the screen.
Can the voice commands be used to control the A/C Fan speed? How about the keyboard, can you use voice commands to spell addresses and stuff? |
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| Steameng8 |
Question:
Can the voice commands be used to control the A/C Fan speed? How about the keyboard, can you use voice commands to spell addresses and stuff?
Answer: No to both on the 04 MDX.
Maybe next year. I think the new 04 TL lets you do the A/C Fan speed, but am not sure.
You can request the NAVI find a post office, gas station, or restaurant by just asking with a voice command. You can also jump between the Map, Trip Computer, and others with voice. You can also ask what time it is. |
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| perk |
quote:
Originally posted by BlueStreak
Lets hear from every 03 owner who's performed the update personally.
Issues? Problems? Describe the process, please. I've heard it it fails through to completion, it's a trip back to the dealer.
I did the update back just before xMas '03, then went on a long trip from DC to NC to W.Va back to DC. Everything worked about the same as old software. There are a few minor improvements, but none really worth $200. I bought this version because the write-up said that it had eliminated the "Now entering Unverified Area" message that always used to pop up just when you really needed to see where you were. Unfortunately, that "feature" was not eliminated and it still works just like last version. I recommend you wait until the next release. I wish that I had. |
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| ernestsue |
| I have a 02 and I'm wandering if I can change or what to change to make mine with voice recognition:confused: any response would be greatly appreciated.... |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by ernestsue
I have a 02 and I'm wandering if I can change or what to change to make mine with voice recognition:confused: any response would be greatly appreciated....
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| vicpai |
| ......to order the new disc and first off, it says that they will be closed from Mar 30 to Apr 7 for year end inventory or something like that :rolleyes: ......and then they say they are "temporarily out of stock and it will now be available around Mid-may".....WTF is going on here :mad: .....isn't this "out of stock" thing going on from somewhere around mid-Jan when people were told mid feb and then in mid feb were told mid-april, and now we're being told mid may. Is this some kind of friggin joke?? :3: ....does this mean that when may arrives they'll tell us june and so on and so forth till it's finally fall of '04. Un-f*cking-believable!! :3: |
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| Mitch B |
Just installed Acura 3.30G Navi Disk. It's been on back-order for several months, but seems to be a noticable improvment and it arrived just in time, since we leave for vacation on Friday. Overall operation and feel is much the same as the delivery version. Install took about 60 seconds. After a 10 minute trip I noticed the following:
Slightly different Set-up screens; 100% voice control (easier to use) on all functions; Help Command available on all screens; Unverified Routing Option; usable screen-view is larger since the Map Scale Adjustment appears only when you zoom in or out; more color options; seems slightly faster with crisper graphics. Also, the turn distance count-down which comes up 1/4 mile before a turn is much clearer and easier to read. |
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| csimo |
| I have version 3.30F. I wonder what the difference is? |
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| Mitch B |
quote:
Originally posted by csimo
I have version 3.30F. I wonder what the difference is?
I think I read on the Alpine/Acura/Honda Navi website that the G version corrected some minor issues with privious versions but that no additional points of interests were added from the F to G release. Hope that helps |
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| zafer |
quote:
Originally posted by Mitch B
....but that no additional points of interests were added from the F to G release. Hope that helps
Wait a minute!! Isn't G a point of interest?? |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by zafer
Wait a minute!! Isn't G a point of interest??
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| rod1105 |
I just got my X three days ago - what are the chances that my nav system has the latest updates? Also, how do you tell what version you have?
Thanks in advance!
RAM |
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| zafer |
quote:
Originally posted by rod1105
I just got my X three days ago - what are the chances that my nav system has the latest updates? Also, how do you tell what version you have?
Thanks in advance!
RAM
What model year did you get? Pop out the DVD, its writtten on it.
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...63&pagenumber=2 |
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| zafer |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
zafer you're thinking of G-Strings
No I'm not. Why do you think its called a G-string ? (hint - in English it might be reffered to more often as the G-spot) |
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| rod1105 |
| I got the 2004 Touring MDX with nav - I found the version number (thanks for the link), which came out to be 3.10.03. This seems considerably behind the 3.30 versions referenced in the previous posts. Should I grumble to my dealer about this?:confused: |
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| greatscot |
quote:
Originally posted by rod1105
I got the 2004 Touring MDX with nav - I found the version number (thanks for the link), which came out to be 3.10.03. This seems considerably behind the 3.30 versions referenced in the previous posts. Should I grumble to my dealer about this?:confused:
I would grumble to the dealer if I were you, purchased only three days ago without the latest DVD? Good luck.
BTW, what's the cost of that new 3.30 DVD? Does Tim have these?
What about a group Buy,if not available fom Tim, then maybe Alpine? |
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| XStatic |
quote:
Originally posted by greatscot
What about a group Buy,if not available fom Tim, then maybe Alpine?
Or from someone with a DL burner (once the media is available) |
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| Mitch B |
quote:
Originally posted by greatscot
...BTW, what's the cost of that new 3.30 DVD? Alpine?
It cost $185 plus shipping which brings it to around $200. |
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| msu79gt82 |
I hit the wrong smilie buton earlier; it was supposed to be a winkie
quote:
Originally posted by zafer
No I'm not. Why do you think its called a G-string ? (hint - in English it might be reffered to more often as the G-spot)
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| XStatic |
quote:
Originally posted by zafer
http://tinyurl.com/2ucfg
On the website, but still not available, if you try to order you get:
Shipping date not available. We will notify you by email when this product has shipped |
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| theXman |
From where? Acura or Alpine? Any links.
Sorry if this was mentioned earlier. :(
Thanks. ;) |
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| theXman |
I did try that wedsite before I asked. The site (http://www.acuranavi.com) might have changed. I couldn't get through. Do I have to call the Acura Customer Service directly?
Thanks again. |
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| zafer |
| Thats the correct link. It has its good days and bad..... |
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| bonoriffic |
| I have an 04 with 3.30F. Is there any reason for me to upgrade to 3.30G? |
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| zafer |
quote:
Originally posted by bonoriffic
I have an 04 with 3.30F. Is there any reason for me to upgrade to 3.30G?
Isn't the G version just a debugged F? You should be able to have it replaced under warranty. |
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| kamalsyal |
I was reading the FAQs for this update, and had a question for those who upgraded their NAV with version G !
Does the update allow you to control non NAV features (like A/C, Mode etc.) with your voice ? In my 2003 X, I can only use voice for Navigation related options, but the FAQs on the order site seem to suggest that you can now use voice commands for other stuff as well. I quote from the website:
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30) What functions can the Voice System control?
a) Navigation functions (like asking the system to find the nearest restaurant, or gas station, changing map scale, or selecting icon types to display on the map).
b) The climate control system (temperature, A/C, fan speed, or mode).
c) Audio functions (like selecting an XM, AM, or FM radio station, playing a CD/DVD, or playing a tape).
d) To view the latest model information visit www.Acura.com
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Can someone please clarify and post their experience !
Thanks, |
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| nightguy |
| Does the newest version correct the issue of landmarks on the wrong side of the road ? |
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| kamalsyal |
Hello Everyone,
Just wanted to find out from fellow 03X owners who have updated their NAVI, how the update is performing ? Have you found any new features in the update (aside from the additional voice commands, different voice, 3D etc),
Will the update actually allow me to control my AC and Stereo by voice ? I think the update has been out for enough time now, and I am considering buying it.
Any thoughts, opinions and observations will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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| Teledatageek |
kamal,
I'm also an 03X owner and am thinking about updating. I just checked the Alpine web site and after putting in 2003 MDX got this message:
"Due to high demand, we are temporarily out of discs. We plan to have them in the Winter. Thank you for your interest."
Maybe a new version is right around the corner?!
I'm thinking a new disc won't allow the expanded control that you describe, but if it does sign me up! |
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| kamalsyal |
Teledatageek,
I hope they have a new version coming out....but then we may have to wait for a few extra months, till they fix the bugs in this new version :(
From what I have been reading on the others posts here, the update does allow you to control the radio and a/c controls via your voice. I know that in the 04 and 05 X, you can do that, so maybe they added it for the 03 also. Guess we'll only know when we get the update right ??
I guess i'll wait till this update is available again, and then buy it, and see for myself !
Thanks,
kamal |
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| Soroosh |
| With the update (on the 03 models) one can NOT control the AC or the radio. |
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| ltkrm |
| What about entering addresses on the keyboard screen letter by letter using voice command. |
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| Soroosh |
| Nope. not possible. :( |
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| automag928 |
| Since I just bought my MDX, (my dvd is 3.30D) I checked online to get a newer version, and according to the website, a new version will be coming out in January. Anybody have any details? |
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| soon |
Is has been a disappointment for me:
- sometimes the voice says to turn right when the map shows a left turn. As a result, I don't trust the voice and must look at the map (distracting!).
- The "What time is it?" question is now totally ignored (it used to give me the time with the previous version).
- I have seen white dots in areas I have never been in.
I write to Alpine to report these problems (hoping I'll get a free update in January) |
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| highcountrymdx |
| I had no reply to my "What time is it?" question, until I realized I had selected 'Voice OFF' in Setup Screen. Turned it back on, works fine. Give it a try. I'm using version 3.30G. |
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| PortlandMDX |
Hey, I just checked the Acura/Alpine website and there is now a version 3.40B for 2003/2004 models. Unfortunately, they didn't update the FAQ, so no details other than what the website says:
"The current version is 3.40B. Due to high demand, the DVD disc is temporarily unavailable. The disc will become available again in late December, 04. This DVD serves as both the fall 04 update DVD, or a replacement DVD" |
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| XStatic |
Anybody upgraded more than once?
I have an 03 on the orignal disks which mostly work ok for me where I live.
I would like to upgrade to the route on unverified streets but I can't bring myself to pay so much for the DVD. |
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