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sushix
What is the difference bewtween Carnauba Wax and regular wax. Do they last longer? Are they better than regular wax? I know Zaino is the best wax out there but I don't want to spend too much time waxing my car. Anyone have experience with Mothers California Gold before?
evoge
The short answers:

Carnauba (from a rain forest plant) is the (or one of the) hardest natural waxes, and though it was the very best for some time, modern polymers like Zaino have probably supplanted the natural waxes. I've heard reports that the natural carnauba can give a slight yellowish tint to some car colors and aren't as "clear" or last as long as polymers.

A one-time claybar treatment takes 2hrs max, and doing Zaino on a black X didn't take any longer than regular wax. The polish is easy to remove because you don't use very much to start with. Additional layers or spray treatments are even quicker.

"Regular" mass-market waxes are mostly petroleum distillates that are fine for those who don't know any better--and the products are cheap for a reason. Most high-end waxes and polishes, like Mother's, do a decent job.

The long answers can be found in about 700 other discussions on the subject! But there are always many opinions about everything.
xcel
Hi Evoge:

___If I didn’t know any better, I would say you are either a politician or are somehow related to a former president whose last name was Clinton ;) Very nice post in regards to Zaino and its polymer design without offending anyone like I probably would have done …

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
ghost
I'm a big fan of Meguiar's California Gold Carnauba wax, although the California connection escapes me, not exactly rain forest country.

Still, three years of waxing with this, and my X looks, well, pretty darn good. And it's nice to use something that's not synthesized from petroleum, presidential oil company connections aside...

And you can't really spend enough time waxing your car!
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sushix
evoge
Thanks for the detailed info. I really appreciate.
AMDX
Here's a link to some information: http://www.autoeducation.com/carcare/protect.htm

Regarding the products you are discussing, try checking it's Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) for content information. Meguiar's has them on their website, but you have to register: http://www.meguiars.com/msds/

Some random links: http://msds.ogden.disa.mil/msds/owa...?imsdsnr=188408

http://www.emedco.com/emed2/resourc...?pd=bv&pf=bzmbk

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~fer...guiars_m26.html

From the little research I have done, I think most carnuba waxes contain petroleum distillates, including "high-end" and/or Mother's products. I'm not definite.

I have nothing against Mother's or Meguiar's. A Mother's employee has actually helped me out greatly from time to time.
evoge
quote:
Originally posted by xcel
If I didn’t know any better, I would say you are either a politician or are somehow related to a former president whose last name was Clinton ;)


Thanks, Wayne. No, I'm just a QA manager who is accustomed to playing both sides to get a consensus.;) Hmmm, "The mediation of values"--it DOES sound like politics!
sushix
Great info!, AMDX
Talk about art of waxing.

quote:
Apply to the paint surface, rubbing in a linear motion. Work into the paint in a front-to-back, back-to-front motion (the way the air flows over the car). Don't go around in circles the way dear old dad taught you. If you are using a pad and airborne grit gets under the pad, you have made sandpaper. If you are working in a circle, you have made a 360-degree scratch (or swirl mark). Since a scratch or swirl mark is most visible from a 90 degree viewing angle, a circular scratch is visible anywhere. If you work in a linear motion, and scratch the surface, the linear scratch is only visible from a small viewing angle.


Interesting point from the writer. Do guys know this already? This is new to me.
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feliz
I've used Mothers and it's good but I prefer S100, gets good reviews on the detailing sites like Autopedia etc.

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