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I got my Mah. T+N yesterday. The salesman explained to me about all the featuers. I was highly surprised by atleast 3 features (bugs? as we call them in software lingo!!)
1. The passender side airbags are toooo quirky? they say, even if the person tilts to a side (because of say drowsiness after a long haul), the air bags may deflate. So it is very necessary for the preson to sit erect!!!! You can't even put your folder, purse, loaf of bread, milk can etc. on the seat. Boy...isn't that crazy????
2. There is a button (VTM4 or somthing like that) which enables you to lock the rear wheels. It is just a toggle button and the on position is no different than the off position. My problem is how do I know whether it is on or off. There is no indicator light anywhere showing it's state.
3. You can't switch from CD mode to Radio or tape mode from the steering controls. You can only change the channel/track or volume. What's more you can't even switch it on or off from steering wheel. That's too foolish. Even my 2001PF-LE had these things.
Did you guys observe this or I am missing something?
Boy...I hope I don't find anything else like this.
-Han.
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Pax side airbag is disabled if the passenger is "out of position" and the airbag would cause potential injury. As in, you don't want your passenger to get his/her head blown off for snoozing and resting head on the door/pillar. Dash pax airbag still operates.
VTM4 button does, in fact, light up. VTM4 is selectable only in R, 1st or 2nd gear.
Both as designed.
Why would you characterize the lack of mode-control on the steering wheel as a bug? Just how it is.
All of these operations are detailed in the manual; 1 and 3 are included in marketing materials/brochures or on simple observation pre-purchase. |
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| Most people in this forum whine before they get their MDX, but I believe you are the first to do so within the initial 24 hours of ownership. For most of us the euphoria lasts the first couple of days. Nothing you have mentioned are problems or complaints others have noted to my knowledge. Try washing your vehicle, go over speed bumps, or put your seat belts on and off rapidly twenty times and look at the pillars. When you have done all of these things then you there is a good chance you will have something to whine about.:rolleyes: |
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Han, spend some quality time with your owners manual. The VTM button has a indicator light to the left of the image - the reason you haven't seen is is that you can activate VTM in 1st or 2nd gear at speeds below 6 mph. The side air bags are usually deflated; this is a good thing. The position sensor deactivates deployment to prevent injury to someone leaning against the door. It is also sensitive to relatively light weights (say, a child), again to prevent injury. If yours is being set off by a loaf of bread, you are either buying some mean loaves of bread (Russian rye?) or should have it checked.
True about not being able to switch between audio sources, I've been able to live with that.
You may want to do a search on "Kenkeeb", this will alert you to a wide range of bugs or nonissues, depending on your perspective... :). |
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Originally posted by ghost
Han, spend some quality time with your owners manual.
Han's a software person -- they don't do manuals anymore :) |
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| Sheez, talk about a rapid response team, I started replying to the original 12:08 post, and three of you squeezed in before I hit the submit button! Guess I'll have to think faster, or type faster, or something. :D:D |
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Believe me, I asked my salesperson n number of times about the VTM4 button. He specifically and clearly said that there is no indicator. While he was showing it to me, I asked him how did he know whether it is on or off. I said, he just kept the count. I even put one hand overit to block his view and then toggled it (to make him realize the importance of some indicator). He said you can feel it while driving whether it is on or off.
Anyway, it's good to know that there is someindicator.
You are right, I guess, I need to RTFM to figure out about the side airbags. But those were his exact words (loaf of bread etc).
Well, lack of audio mode is not a bug but I categorized it as one because I think this is what you expect out of a luxury item. I mean, if you get basic controls on the steering wheel in a Chevy Blazer (say), it would be a great feature, but lack of advanced features on a MDX......
I don't want to sound cribby but after paying 2000$+ I guess, my expectations shot up! In any case, it's a lovely thing to drive. My wife also liked it very much and so I am happy.
thanks,
Han.
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hanNJ,
You might suggest to your salesman that he join this forum so he will learn enough to tell his next MDX customer the right vehicle information so they won't get pounced upon by members here.:rolleyes: Now that you have gone through forum initiation, welcome to the flock!:D:D |
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Hey, Han, did I miss something? Did you pay just $2000 for your MDX??? No wonder it is full of bugs!!! :)
Kenkneeb was a "great" whiner :) It's a shame he does not frequent this site anymore. :) (just kidding, of course, I do not want to be banned for life for being kenkneeb-sympathetic!) I must admit, though, that some of his posts, as bizzare as they were, did alert me to some possible "bugs" in my car.
I agree with hanNJ on the issue of missing SOME luxury features in our "Multi-dimensional Luxury" vehicle. |
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| ... my MDX has squished a lot of bugs!! |
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| I thought "bugs" more specifically referred to RELIABILITY and QUALITY issues rather than features (or lack thereof)...That is why I JUMPED and opened up this thread when I saw the word "bugs" :( |
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Originally posted by remery
hanNJ,
You might suggest to your salesman that he join this forum so he will learn enough to tell his next MDX customer the right vehicle information so they won't get pounced upon by members here.:rolleyes: Now that you have gone through forum initiation, welcome to the flock!:D:D
Here, here, it's a shame old Amin is making such a handsome profit and doesn't seem to know the first thing about what he's selling. Good thing for these folks that the MDX sells itself... |
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hanNJ, I'd be willing to live with the bugs you mentioned if my MDX would only get here!!! :D
tflora (waiting for a GG/Tour/Nav) |
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As far as I know, there's no "luxury" SUV in this general price range that has all the features/gadgets one might hope for.
The RX300 still doesn't have steering-wheel mounted audio controls, I believe. The ML320 doesn't have them either. So not only can't you change modes with the vehicles that lack the controls, you can't change anything!
While on the subject of audio, the only way you can get an accessible in-dash CD changer on the RX is to get the Nakamichi (good system!) and you can't combine it with the navigation system. Else you can get the nav and get an "in-dash" CD player in the glovebox. The ML320 still has the changer mounted in the rear cargo compartment, best you can do is to put a single-disc CD player in the dash to augment it.
The disablement of the side airbag with the sensor is an important "feature" that may be tuned too sensitively based on input here. But look at it this way; if you lean against the airbag (e.g. you're dozing off), and it blows, guess how much damage that can do to you? Especially if you're a smaller individual like an older child riding in the front (always safer in the rear, of course), or a small-statured adult. All the manufacturers warn against leaning against the side airbags. Therefore, the "feature" is necessary.
The salesman is, unfortunately, misinformed. The VTM-4 only lights when VTM-4 is manually engaged, in first or second gear, at speeds under 18mph. The switch will light at that time. The VTM-4 will begin progressively disengaging as the speed approaches 18mph. The manual engagement is designed to help you get unstuck.
Otherwise VTM-4 only engages when slippage is detected, and during acceleration. In these modes, there is NO light. |
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| The only true bugs that I am aware of are on my windshield. |
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Salespeople should know their product before they start selling. I think this is a good example of someone telling you more than they know. Unfortunately there is a lot of turnover in the automobile business and dealerships put these folks out there way to soon in my opinion. This forum will get you straightened out.
Roger
http://www.acurapricing.com |
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Originally posted by hcmdx
The only true bugs that I am aware of are on my windshield.
You don't know how right you are...windshield chipped in less than 1000 miles...never had that in about 200,000 miles on my other cars:(:(
There must be a really cheap/poor quality glass Acura is using...shame on them! |
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Originally posted by hanNJ
Believe me, I asked my salesperson n number of times about the VTM4 button. He specifically and clearly said that there is no indicator. While he was showing it to me, I asked him how did he know whether it is on or off. I said, he just kept the count. I even put one hand overit to block his view and then toggled it (to make him realize the importance of some indicator). He said you can feel it while driving whether it is on or off.
Anyway, it's good to know that there is someindicator.
Hey did you ever see the James Bond movie GoldenEye? The part where Boris is clicking away on the explosive pen that you had to count the number of times it was pressed before detonation.
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| I now have 4250 miles on my Mesa Beige/Touring/Navi..... has had one oil change (switched to Mobil 1, which I always use).... car runs great, and I don't think there are any bugs. There is a weird "clunk" or "thump" when stopping hard, even from a low speed, and car "recovers".. I think this is fuel sloshing in tank.... yes, mirros drip a bit after a wash... but all in all, great ride, seems quite dependable, and I love it!!! |
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Remery,
O.K., you are a victim of the thud, the mirrors, the nicks. Would you buy this vehicle again? My build date is 5/16. Do I want this car? |
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Originally posted by debrockman
Remery,
O.K., you are a victim of the thud, the mirrors, the nicks. Would you buy this vehicle again? My build date is 5/16. Do I want this car?
In a Hoosier heartbeat!!:D:D
In fact, I like it better the longer I drive it. None of the above shortcomings are really that serious only imperfections. Compared to both your T&C and Suburban, you will really enjoy the handling and better acceleration... and there will still be plenty of room for your brood of gymnasts as long as they don't get any bigger than Mary Lou Rettan (Sp?). Also, if you have the chance, contact your cousin Guido and see if he can't get you one with a Navi, you will regret not having one. |
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Originally posted by hanNJ
... I was highly surprised by atleast 3 features (bugs? as we call them in software lingo!!)
Han,
Your were right first by saying features. I too am in software, actual creation, and we call them features. There are no bugs in software. :D |
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Let me tell you bout bugs......at least it matches the interior:D:D
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