| darkhelmet |
Need all you HT experts advice.... Need to replace my front speakers (currently have Bose 301, don't ask) and I found these on Crutchfield's site. Polk RTi150
I was orginally looking for the RTi10's but the RTi150's look better and are cheaper. Any suggestions from all experts? I have a JVC RX1028 but I hope to upgrade that next.
Thanks in advance |
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| XStatic |
Let me highly recommend the Definitive Technology BP2006TL
http://www.hometheatermag.com/loudspeakers/46/
The only negative I have seen is for audiophile critical music listening (classical etc.) For Home Theater, these ROCK!
Awesome and since they have bult in powered subs you get a lot more bang out of your 100w amp and might not need to upgrade for more power, just if you want new features. |
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| DaleB |
quote: Originally posted by darkhelmet
Need all you HT experts advice.... Need to replace my front speakers (currently have Bose 301, don't ask) and I found these on Crutchfield's site. Polk RTi150
I was orginally looking for the RTi10's but the RTi150's look better and are cheaper. Any suggestions from all experts? I have a JVC RX1028 but I hope to upgrade that next.
Thanks in advance
The best expert advice you would get says take your ears and a couple of your favorite recordings and audition as many speakers as you can within your price range. |
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| MDXtatic |
I just re-did my HT with www.axiomaudio.com.
I got (2) M22ti's for the front, 2 (QS8) for rear, and VT150 for front. I got the VTF-2 Sub from HSUresearch.com. Although I didn't hear them anywhere, I went by a number of recommendations, and I am very, very happy with them. Similar sound to Paradigm reference series.
Axiom has some very nice towers - M60 and M80. Lot's of bang for your buck.
I've listened to a bunch of speakers by Polk, Klipsch, and Paradigm,
and the axiom's sounded better than those...to me.
I also heard a lot of good things about Def. Tech.
Very similar sound to Paradigm.
It took my 6 months to listen and pick my system. I research everything to death.
Good luck. |
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| imraw |
| OK, just a little input regarding Xstatic's post regarding the Def Tech speakers. You are correct about them working well with home theatre and not so well with home audio. That being the problem means that they do not accurately play the input sent to them. First and formost you need to have a speaker that audio accurately first and the home theatre will follow suit. The reverse is not true. If the speaker can not play music (and think of all the sounds involved in music) then there is no way it can accurately portray the home theatre experience. It may sound good, but I can guarantee you that it will not sound right. Regarding Daleb's comment, that is the most correct statement anyone can make regarding speakers. Do not let someone elses ears tell you what sounds right or not. Your ears are the only ones that can tell. Believe me, I have sold high end (multi $K) pieces and mid-fi in my time. I have also auditioned product (speakers, cables, cd players, etc...) for some very reputable companies. You need to audition the speakers first, and preferably in your own home. Each location will sound completely different, just like moving your speakers 1 foot from the wall versus 2 feet from the wall. It completely changes the dynamics of the sound. Back to the original point though, get a speaker that does music well first, the rest will then be correct. But then again, I could be wrong. Happy Hunting |
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| imraw |
| sorry, jacked up a sentence there. The forth sentence I meant to say the speaker must play audio accurately first. |
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| XStatic |
quote: Originally posted by imraw
OK, just a little input regarding Xstatic's post regarding the Def Tech speakers. You are correct about them working well with home theatre and not so well with home audio. That being the problem means that they do not accurately play the input sent to them. First and formost you need to have a speaker that audio accurately first and the home theatre will follow suit. The reverse is not true. If the speaker can not play music (and think of all the sounds involved in music) then there is no way it can accurately portray the home theatre experience. It may sound good, but I can guarantee you that it will not sound right.
I respectfully disagree. The sound-stage for a movie is not comparable to a concert hall. Attempting to play a Bach concert in the best THX cinema is not going to sound good either. In a multi use environment you have to make compromises. The DT system does not compromise the theater experience as much to allow for a good stereo music presentation.
One major drawback to the DT system is the arrangement of the drivers for maximum wide field dispersement and channel separation. This does a great job of providing audible clues during a movie to widen the stage and place sounds appropriately. However I don't think you really want that degree of separation with the violins so far to the left and the cellos/double basses so far to the right, thus it doesn't do as well for that setup.
If you need a system that will do both then DT is probably not the way to go. In my opinion the DT speakers make an awesome theater setup.
But what is most important is for you to listen and decide for yourself. |
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| imraw |
| Like I said, what do I know. I am a two channel stereo junkie and dont like home theatre. Buy what you want and be happy with it. If you chose Def Tech because they look cool and someone convinced you there were good speakers and sound good that is great. So long as you, the buyer, are happy with them. Some speakers were made for home theatre, others were made to sound good and will do home theatre. Choice is what makes this a great country. Hell, if BOSE can do multi-million dollar sales every year and have people convinced their speakers rock, then why shouldn't anyone else be able to do the same. I still stand by the fact that a speaker has to be able to produce the audio portion first before anyone can expect it to sound right doing HT. I never said it would not sound good. The key word is "right". Then again, all the associated equipment needs to be up to par as well. You can put a $8K pair of Dunlavy speakers with an Onkyo receiver and end up with Onkyo sound. Not a bad thing, just the way it is. You can hook Mark Levinson up to Bose and have your ears bleed. Not because of the Levinson mind you. Bottom line, the consumer needs to be happy with the sound and who cares what I say or think. Hell, I am old, crusty, have launched at least 100,000 rounds down range and probably have a tin ear. |
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| Pauls MDX |
I would strongly recommend the Klipsch Reference Series Line. I just purchased the Center channel and the sound is amazing, saving up for the others.
I like the RF-5 towers and the RC-35 Center channel, with the RS-35 as the surrounds. My personal preference.
http://www.klipsch.com/ |
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| Pauls MDX |
If need a small system with cube speakers, I like the Bose lifestyle systems, which I used for my family room.
www.bose.com |
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| darkhelmet |
Thanks all...I know everyone has different opinions and taste.
After hearing them locally I decided to pick them up from Crutchfield. Also picked up the matching center channel. I wanted the woofer and rear speakers to go along but didn't want to push the wife to far, maybe for christmas!! |
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| DaleB |
quote: Originally posted by imraw
OK, just a little input regarding Xstatic's post regarding the Def Tech speakers. You are correct about them working well with home theatre and not so well with home audio.
What he said!
I compromise some, but not a whole lot by having my 2 channel system as part of my multi-channel HT system.
But whenever I listen to speakers, or other components for that matter, my taste tends to go to what sounds better for music. The sacrifice to HT is small compared to the sacrifice to good music when favoring HT.
Def Tech are not bad speakers, but definitely aimed towards HT IMO, and the same for Atlantic Technology. I auditioned HT and music on a Paradigm system and found it superior for music, with little difference for HT.
I did buy an M&K system which I felt for ME was a great balance of both mediums, if not excellent in just one.
http://www.audioreview.com/Main+Spe...97_1594crx.aspx
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volu...ctspeakers.html
Again, I can not stress the importance of training your ears to what sounds good to you.
Regardless of what you want to listen to, you will be doing yourself a big favor. Inferior sound can be very fatiguing. |
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| TanD |
| My vote would be B&W, JM lab for speakers and SVS all the way for subwoofer. |
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| Pauls MDX |
quote: Originally posted by darkhelmet
Need all you HT experts advice.... Need to replace my front speakers (currently have Bose 301, don't ask) and I found these on Crutchfield's site. Polk RTi150
I was orginally looking for the RTi10's but the RTi150's look better and are cheaper. Any suggestions from all experts? I have a JVC RX1028 but I hope to upgrade that next.
Thanks in advance
That is an amazing price for the Polk RTi150's, I may consider myself because the cost of the Klipsch are out of control!!! |
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