| Gladiator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Where have all the Yankee fans gone???
Lead down to 2 games....
3.5 |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by Gladiator
3.5
OK, but where will that lead be a week from now?????
GONE! It gets interesting from here. 6 games between the two teams will make for a fun end of the regular season.
At this point it would seem reasonable that both teams will make the playoffs. I only hope the Yankee's make it past the first round so they can meet up again. |
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| Gladiator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
6 games between the two teams will make for a fun end of the regular season.
FUN for one of the teams. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by Gladiator
FUN for one of the teams.
Nah, fun for both sets of fans.
Even last year, when the Sox lost, it still was a fun series to watch. |
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| Gladiator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Nah, fun for both sets of fans.
Even last year, when the Sox lost, it still was a fun series to watch.
fun to watch ??!! I was at the famous game 7 last year and almost developed an ulcer.:eek: |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by Gladiator
fun to watch ??!! I was at the famous game 7 last year and almost developed an ulcer.:eek:
Better stock up on the Malox.
Here we go again! |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by Maik
I only hope the Yankee's make it past the first round so they can meet up again.
Do you really mean that?! Watch out what you wish for, you just might get it. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Do you really mean that?! Watch out what you wish for, you just might get it.
Of course I do. But with the Yankees current pitching situation, I am not confident that they can get past the first round. Especially where they are in a dogfight with the Sox that will likely not allow them the luxury of getting the pitching staff some rest and setting up the rotation for the playoffs as they have in prior years. Also, they have been giving up way too many runs of late...22 to Cleveland and 17 last night to KC. Hardly championship stuff.
The Yanks are not exactly playing their best baseball right now. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Of course I do. But with the Yankees current pitching situation, I am not confident that they can get past the first round. Especially where they are in a dogfight with the Sox that will likely not allow them the luxury of getting the pitching staff some rest and setting up the rotation for the playoffs as they have in prior years. Also, they have been giving up way too many runs of late...22 to Cleveland and 17 last night to KC. Hardly championship stuff.
The Yanks are not exactly playing their best baseball right now.
Good points regarding their pitching but those blowouts were with pitchers who won't see the light of day during the playoffs. Remember, you only need 3 for the first round and 4 for the second. So it'll be Hernandez, Brown (knock on wood), Mussina and Lieber.
As for the way the Yanks are playing now, I've got no argument there. They look terrrible. But are still 30+ games over .500. |
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| Maik |
The long awaited first of two weekends is here. Yankees currently own a 3.5 game lead. Where will that lead be on Monday morning?
I say the Sox take 2 out of 3 and start next week 2.5 games back.
After sweeping the Yankees next week...the Sox will take over 1st place for good! |
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| laborlitigator |
| Yanks take 2 out of 3 at home. Sox take 2 out of 3 in Boston. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Told you so. . . Yanks take 2 out of 3. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
The long awaited first of two weekends is here. Yankees currently own a 3.5 game lead. Where will that lead be on Monday morning?
I say the Sox take 2 out of 3 and start next week 2.5 games back.
After sweeping the Yankees next week...the Sox will take over 1st place for good!
That lead is now 4.5 . . . |
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| Maik |
OK, OK
Yanks pitching looked great over the weekend.
I guess its time to wait for the tournament to start. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
OK, OK
Yanks pitching looked great over the weekend.
I guess its time to wait for the tournament to start.
Agreed. That's why I hate the NY media so much. After Mariano blew the game on Friday, you should have heard the talk shows. People can be so reactionary.
Now, everybody is saying the Yanks will win in a cakewalk.
I'm just glad that if the Sox and Yanks meet up, it would be in the ALCS and not the ALDS because our 4 starters are stronger than our 3 best starters. If you understand what I mean. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Yanks take 2 out of 3 at home. Sox take 2 out of 3 in Boston.
Talk about right on for my prediction. |
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| Gladiator |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Talk about right on for my prediction.
Any playoffs predictions ? |
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| keremoner |
BoSox over A's 4-2
NYY over Minn 4-3
Bos over NYY 4-3
World Series: BoSox over Cardinals 4-3
(Yes, the curse is OVER!!!) |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
BoSox over A's 4-2
NYY over Minn 4-3
Bos over NYY 4-3
World Series: BoSox over Cardinals 4-3
(Yes, the curse is OVER!!!)
K,
Are you even a baseball fan?! Last time I checked the first round was best of 5.
Unless something was changed, of course, and then I apologize.
But then again, you are a Sox fan. . . |
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| laborlitigator |
As it stands now, I see the first round as this:
Yanks over A's 3-1
Twins over Sox 3-2
Cards over Dodgers 3-0
Cubs over Braves 3-2 |
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| Gladiator |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
As it stands now, I see the first round as this:
Yanks over A's 3-1
Twins over Sox 3-2
Cards over Dodgers 3-0
Cubs over Braves 3-2
hmmm |
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| keremoner |
| oops, I meant 3-1 Sox over the A's |
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| Maik |
| As of today, looks like the Sox will be playing the Twins. With Santana and Schilling getting two starts each in a 5 game series...it will likely come down to Schilling beating him once. The Sox will take 2 out of the other three and move on to the ALCS vs NY. |
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| Gladiator |
The Twins have to sweep to avoid playing the Yankees.
Let the game begins and may the best team win. :2: |
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| Gladiator |
| No cubs and No A's. |
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| BaldEagle |
I predicted the Dodgers to win their division. But that was for 2003 or even perhaps 2002. I gave up on them this year.:8:
I do not think they (Dodgers) will do well in the playoffs because of their pitching. St Louis is my prediction for the NL team going to the series, Angels in the AL, with the Cards winning the series.
If correct it will be a first for me. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
As it stands now, I see the first round as this:
Yanks over A's 3-1
Twins over Sox 3-2
Cards over Dodgers 3-0
Cubs over Braves 3-2
Oops!
Yanks over Twins in 4
Sox over Angels in 5
Cards over Dodgers in 3
Houston over Braves in 4 |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Oops!
Yanks over Twins in 4
Sox over Angels in 5
Cards over Dodgers in 3
Houston over Braves in 4
Twins and Angels in the ALCS. Cards and Astros in the NLCS. Cards and Angels in the WS. Cards win. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Twins and Angels in the ALCS. Cards and Astros in the NLCS. Cards and Angels in the WS. Cards win.
Got it wrong again mully. Sox all the way!!! |
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| mullysalt |
| Just had to make sure you were paying attention. Don't we all want to see the Yanks and the Sox? |
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| Gladiator |
| WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET SOME RUNS AGAINST THESE GUYS !!! :mad: :mad: :3: :3: |
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| keremoner |
| They look unstoppable for now. |
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| laborlitigator |
Sox v. Yanks again. . .
The Saga continues. . .
Mussina v. Schilling
Pedro v. Lieber
Arroyo v. Brown
Good pitching matchups.
Yanks in 7 again |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Sox v. Yanks again. . .
The Saga continues. . .
Mussina v. Schilling
Pedro v. Lieber
Arroyo v. Brown
Good pitching matchups.
Yanks in 7 again
Not this time. The self destructive tendencies of past Sox teams is absent in this team's attitude.
Sox in 6 or 7, then the World Series in 6 or 7. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by keremoner
Not this time. The self destructive tendencies of past Sox teams is absent in this team's attitude.
Sox in 6 or 7, then the World Series in 6 or 7.
That's what I want to hear, a confident Bosox fan.
What I like is that the Yanks took on the AL Cy Young and took one out of 2 while he was starting. If the Yanks against Schilling, who is not as good as Santana, are able to take one of the 2 games he is pitching, they should do fine. For the Sox to win, Schilling has to win 3 games. 1, 4 and 7. I just don't see it. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
That's what I want to hear, a confident Bosox fan.
What I like is that the Yanks took on the AL Cy Young and took one out of 2 while he was starting. If the Yanks against Schilling, who is not as good as Santana, are able to take one of the 2 games he is pitching, they should do fine. For the Sox to win, Schilling has to win 3 games. 1, 4 and 7. I just don't see it.
You seem too confident of the Yank's rotation. Remember, Sox are not the Twins. Who won the season series between BoSox and Yanks? Sox, of course!! Who has the better offensive team? Sox of course !! Who has a lower team ERA? Sox of course !! Plus, Yankee set up and closers have proven ineffective this year. Tankees are toast! Take it from me. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
You seem too confident of the Yank's rotation. Remember, Sox are not the Twins. Who won the season series between BoSox and Yanks? Sox, of course!! Who has the better offensive team? Sox of course !! Who has a lower team ERA? Sox of course !! Plus, Yankee set up and closers have proven ineffective this year. Tankees are toast! Take it from me.
K,
Just do me a favor and guarantee the Sox the win. Please. . . :rolleyes: |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
K,
Just do me a favor and guarantee the Sox the win. Please. . . :rolleyes:
Just talking percentages here. Only a fool or someone who really nelieves in curses would pick the Yankees! Give me your reasons why Yanks will win? I gave you mine. In just about every offensive and pitching category, BoSox are the better team. |
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| laborlitigator |
Starting pitching - you've got us on the front end but if you have to go 4, it evens out if Hernandez is able to pitch.
Bullpen- don't even go there. You couldn't get a run off Rivera for 3 innings last year. . . and your boy Folk is a little gittery.
Offense- 1-9 we've got you beat. |
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| keremoner |
| Did you swallow your tongue, Laborlitigator? Or are you trying to dig up an obscure stat somewhere to justify favoring the Yankees?:2: |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Starting pitching - you've got us on the front end but if you have to go 4, it evens out if Hernandez is able to pitch.
Bullpen- don't even go there. You couldn't get a run off Rivera for 3 innings last year. . . and your boy Folk is a little gittery.
Offense- 1-9 we've got you beat.
Rivera blew two saves against Sox. He can't close a game against them if his life depended on it. Here are offensive categories we've got you beat on:
Runs scored , hits, average, on base average, singles, doubles..... (all except HRs this year)
So how do you figure you have us beat? In a fantasy world maybe?:2: |
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| laborlitigator |
Rivera blew two saves against you last year during the regular season. Oh yeah, I forgot, Sox fans don't go back that far in history. And as for your regular season head to hear record, how many wins does that count for in the playoffs.
Then again, you probably thought it was the best of 9. . .
:p |
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| keremoner |
| I don't get your math. Every season is different. In 2004, I know what happened and that is all that counts this year. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
I don't get your math. Every season is different. In 2004, I know what happened and that is all that counts this year.
By your same logic, we're gonna kill Pedro then. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
By your same logic, we're gonna kill Pedro then.
I'll take that. That'll bring him down to earth so he stays in Boston next year for a reasonable salary and yet, Sox would still win the series against the Yankees.
Good night, laborlitigator. It is my bed time. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
I'll take that. That'll bring him down to earth so he stays in Boston next year for a reasonable salary and yet, Sox would still win the series against the Yankees.
Good night, laborlitigator. It is my bed time.
K,
I'll tell you one thing, George is gonna make a run at him during free agency. I guarantee that. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
K,
I'll tell you one thing, George is gonna make a run at him during free agency. I guarantee that.
Not likely that Pedro signs with the Yanks. George may well drive the price up, but I doubt the Yankees will sign him. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Not likely that Pedro signs with the Yanks. George may well drive the price up, but I doubt the Yankees will sign him.
Ask Clemens about that. . . |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Ask Clemens about that. . .
Except Yanks did not get Clemens away from the Sox...Toronto.
Plus, very different circumstances. |
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| Gladiator |
| Should be a great series once again. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Come on Mully, the Giants find ways to break our hearts.
No team in all of sports has been more creative than the Red Sox when it comes to breaking our hearts.
They manage to find new ways every year. While I certainly want them to win it all, I would not be at all surprised to see them pull yet another rabbit out of their hat.
They have the uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. |
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| mullysalt |
| I hope it goes seven with plenty of drama. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
No team in all of sports has been more creative than the Red Sox when it comes to breaking our hearts.
They manage to find new ways every year. While I certainly want them to win it all, I would not be at all surprised to see them pull yet another rabbit out of their hat.
They have the uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Maik,
Fair enough, you've got me there. But we were up 38-14 on the 9ers and 2 touchdowns on the Vikings with 3 minutes left a couple years back. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
No team in all of sports has been more creative than the Red Sox when it comes to breaking our hearts.
They manage to find new ways every year. While I certainly want them to win it all, I would not be at all surprised to see them pull yet another rabbit out of their hat.
They have the uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Not this time around. Have faith. |
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| Gladiator |
| Shell-ing really shut us up !!! :30: |
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| nightguy |
| Yeah that was about as effective as Darren Sharper's guarantee of a Packer win on Monday night. I was rooting for the Sox but I was hoping Mussina's perfect game would keep going. |
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| mullysalt |
The Yankees win 10-7 on a last second filed goal by Ali-Haji Shiek(for all you old school NYG and MGOBLUE! fans).
I didn't expect such a slugfest with Moose and Shelly on the mound but with those two lineups I shouldn't have been surprised. How cool was the crowds' reaction for Mariano's arrival. Sox now must win 4 of 6 against the yanks in October. Petey better handle his "daddies" or this series could be a short one. |
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| laborlitigator |
I'm not going to toot my horn over them winning Game 1. In fact, Yanks were very lucky to get out of their with a win.
This all about guarantees Schilling is going to pitch Game 4.
But as usual, Mariano comes up big. |
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| Maik |
The goal was and is to split the first 2 in NY. So, its up to Pedro now.
It was interesting to note the change in crowd mood between the 6th and 7th innings. In the sixth, they were partying, singing "whos your dady" and having fun, while in the 7th, with Ortiz standing on third, representing the tying run they were very quiet and concerned.
With Pedro on center stage, I like the Sox chances tonite. If he can get out of the 1st with no damage, then I believe he will come through. As long as the ghost of Grady Little does not appear and leave him in too long! |
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| Gladiator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
It was interesting to note the change in crowd mood between the 6th and 7th innings. In the sixth, they were partying, singing "whos your dady" and having fun, while in the 7th, with Ortiz standing on third, representing the tying run they were very quiet and concerned.
Why is that so ironic ? :confused: It's a critical point of the game ! Fenway park is a damn library most of the game with sox fans on edge waiting for something to go wrong. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
I'm not going to toot my horn over them winning Game 1. In fact, Yanks were very lucky to get out of their with a win.
This all about guarantees Schilling is going to pitch Game 4.
But as usual, Mariano comes up big.
Well, Schilling better be ok if he will start game 4. If his ankle is bothering him, he should not pitch. Last night, he should have put his ego away and tell the manager to take him out between 1st and 2nd innings, and maybe things would have turned out differently. Some players need a lesson from the Pats. Team comes before individual egos. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by Gladiator
Why is that so ironic ? :confused: It's a critical point of the game ! Fenway park is a damn library most of the game with sox fans on edge waiting for something to go wrong.
Who said it was "ironic"?
Simply an observation.
As far as "Fenway park is a damn library most of the game " ...obviously you have never been to Fenway. You really should visit someday, it is an experience. Very different atmosphire than Yankee Stadium. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
Well, Schilling better be ok if he will start game 4. If his ankle is bothering him, he should not pitch. Last night, he should have put his ego away and tell the manager to take him out between 1st and 2nd innings, and maybe things would have turned out differently. Some players need a lesson from the Pats. Team comes before individual egos.
I don't want to hear anything about injury. If he could take the mound, he can pitch. Jimmy Key pitched the Game 6 in 1996 with a partially torn rotator cuff and you never heard him complain about it.
If he couldn't pitch, he should not have.
And don't go saying before the game, "I want make 50,000 people shut up." |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
The goal was and is to split the first 2 in NY. So, its up to Pedro now.
It was interesting to note the change in crowd mood between the 6th and 7th innings. In the sixth, they were partying, singing "whos your dady" and having fun, while in the 7th, with Ortiz standing on third, representing the tying run they were very quiet and concerned.
With Pedro on center stage, I like the Sox chances tonite. If he can get out of the 1st with no damage, then I believe he will come through. As long as the ghost of Grady Little does not appear and leave him in too long!
That was the same mood in my house. Talk about highs and lows.
However, I am concerned at how ineffective Gordon has been. Last night and even against the Twins. It's going to put even more pressure on Mariano.
As for tonight, this is what the playoffs is about. Hopefully, the Yanks come away with another squeeker which plants the seeds in Pedro's mind that his only chance to win a ring would be to come to the Bronx next year. . .
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| Maik |
Interesting nite for TV.
On the one hand....the debate
On the other...Sox Yanks
Tailor made nite for TIVO! I will watch the debate tommorrow nite. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Hopefully, the Yanks come away with another squeeker which plants the seeds in Pedro's mind that his only chance to win a ring would be to come to the Bronx next year. . .
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So, now you are a comedian? |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Interesting nite for TV.
On the one hand....the debate
On the other...Sox Yanks
Tailor made nite for TIVO! I will watch the debate tommorrow nite.
MLB screws up again by running both games at the same time. I know most who post here could care less about the NLCS but I've loved the Cards since I was just a wee mully. So doublevision will be rolling at my house tonight. NLCS and ALCS, no debate here, Maik, Kerry or bust. |
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| 04mdx4sq |
| Hey, big Cards fan here in St. Louis who does care about the NLCS....Go Redbirds!! |
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| mullysalt |
If I saw Don Dekinger(sp?) I'd still like to punch him in the eye.
P.S.-Is Carpenter done for the year? |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
So, now you are a comedian?
Comedy? No, more like wishful thinking. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
MLB screws up again by running both games at the same time. I know most who post here could care less about the NLCS but I've loved the Cards since I was just a wee mully. So doublevision will be rolling at my house tonight. NLCS and ALCS, no debate here, Maik, Kerry or bust.
Mully,
It really doesn't make sense that they overlap the games. Even if they staggered the starting times, they would have done a better job. I don't understand why the fans can't see both. |
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| mullysalt |
Now seems like a fine time to call out the Astros #1 fan in this forum. He loves to post, maybe not as much as he used too. He's popular for the line "the old .org isn't what it used to be.".
WHERE IS msu79gt84???????????????? |
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| laborlitigator |
| Houston may be hurting for pitching though. I sure hope it is a good series. |
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| mullysalt |
The Astos lineup against the Cards lineup is just as juicy as the Yanks and BoSox.
Beltran is amazing. He sure would look good with an olde english D on his chest next season. |
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| MDteX |
| I bet $19.18 with the lone Red Sox fan around here. I'm not a Yankee fan, just a Red Sox non-fan! |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Now seems like a fine time to call out the Astros #1 fan in this forum. He loves to post, maybe not as much as he used too. He's popular for the line "the old .org isn't what it used to be.".
WHERE IS msu79gt82????????????????
Correct; much more lurking than posting these days - but I am still around. We're praying for rain so the series can start in a day or two :cool: :1: |
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| Gladiator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Who said it was "ironic"?
Simply an observation.
As far as "Fenway park is a damn library most of the game " ...obviously you have never been to Fenway. You really should visit someday, it is an experience. Very different atmosphire than Yankee Stadium.
Actually I wouldn't mind visiting Fenway, just like Yankee stadium and Wrigley field they are American institutions in my book. To answer your other point, Trust me I know the atmosphere is different, in Fenway everyone sits on the hands until something happens while in NY we cheer for something to happen. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by Gladiator
Actually I wouldn't mind visiting Fenway, just like Yankee stadium and Wrigley field they are American institutions in my book. To answer your other point, Trust me I know the atmosphere is different, in Fenway everyone sits on the hands until something happens while in NY we cheer for something to happen.
You really should get to Fenway. Over the years, I have been to more than 20 different professional stadiums (outdoor) and I would absolutely say that Fenway is number one. And not because I am a Boston native. Only Chicago comes close.
When entering Fenway, you can walk through the tunnel top access the stands behind home plate. As you proceed to get closer and closer, all you see is a sea of green, the field and the left field wall.
I will never forget the feeling as a child when I saw it for the first time, nor will I forget the look on each of my kids faces when they saw this the first time. It is not the most comfortable stadium, but it is truly an amazing place to see a game. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
I don't want to hear anything about injury. If he could take the mound, he can pitch. Jimmy Key pitched the Game 6 in 1996 with a partially torn rotator cuff and you never heard him complain about it.
If he couldn't pitch, he should not have.
And don't go saying before the game, "I want make 50,000 people shut up."
He has a torn ligament in his ankle. To a pitcher like Schilling, that is 10x worse than a partially torn rotator cuff. I know these things because my wife is a physical therapist. If it wasn't for the pain killers, he couldn't have pitched and in all likelihood, his post season is over.
I can already hear the curse talk in Boston! |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
He has a torn ligament in his ankle. To a pitcher like Schilling, that is 10x worse than a partially torn rotator cuff. I know these things because my wife is a physical therapist. If it wasn't for the pain killers, he couldn't have pitched and in all likelihood, his post season is over.
I can already hear the curse talk in Boston!
Really?! Ask Trevor Hoffman if a torn rotator cuff is nothing. BTW, how come we didn't hear about his injury when he was mowing down the Angels.
It's just another convenient excuse. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Really?! Ask Trevor Hoffman if a torn rotator cuff is nothing. BTW, how come we didn't hear about his injury when he was mowing down the Angels.
It's just another convenient excuse.
The worse of the damage ocurred in his last outing.
I still stick to my opinion:
Who is the better offensive team according to most stats? Sox
Better piching staff by wins, era, and Ks? Sox.
So even if they choke as they usually do, this is the second year in a row that the Sox were the better team. |
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| mullysalt |
Let me get this straight. If the Yanks win the ALCS AGAIN the Sox are the better team for two years running. If that's how you see it then so be it. How 'bout them Pats!
Redbirds looking good so far. Morris vs. Munro tomorrow. I like the cards to make it 2-0.
P.S.-Has everyone rejoined the Yahoo survival pool? |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
The worse of the damage ocurred in his last outing.
I still stick to my opinion:
Who is the better offensive team according to most stats? Sox
Better piching staff by wins, era, and Ks? Sox.
So even if they choke as they usually do, this is the second year in a row that the Sox were the better team.
K,
You really crack me up. Sox are the better team?! :19: :19: :19: :19: :19:
Yanks up 2-0. |
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