| mullysalt |
| The regular season begins in earnest today with several games accross the league. Who are you picks to win each division, pennant and world series? I know that SI put the jinx on the Cubs so we can eliminate them right from the get go. Without Prior until who knows when they may find it very difficult to find their way into the playoffs. |
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| keremoner |
| Red Sox all the way. If they do not do it this year, they probably wont for another 80 years. Pedro looked good last night despite the loss. Did not have his good stuff but still gave up only 2 runs in 6 innings. |
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| gdot |
I'm rooting for my Mariners, but it's gonna be tough just getting in the playoffs with what Anaheim and Oakland did in the offseason.
It sure will be interesting to see how the AL East pans out. |
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| mullysalt |
but they did not kill no deputy........
The boys sportin' ye olde English D stomped the AL's defending Cy Young award winner 7-0 to open the season.
Maybe the Red Sox will want to dump some of their soon-to-be free agent starters to the Tigers for the stretch drive.
JK all you Sox fans. |
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| mullysalt |
Tigs sweep Jays for best start in 19 years!!!!
:2party: :2party: :2party: |
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| msu79gt82 |
Clemens looked very impressive for a No. 3 Starter :D :1:
History was made in Houston last night; first time ever a 300 Game Winner pitcher faced a 600 Homerun hitter. |
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| mullysalt |
How refreshing to actually watch a major league team that has major league talent.
Bless You Boys. |
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| socalJD |
| The world surely must be coming to an end when the Tigers & Angels are the only unbeaten teams in the Majors . . . |
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| mullysalt |
| The Tigers win one in extras to take the weekend series from the Twins to go 5-1 on the short season. I am simply amazed that the Tigers are 5-1. They usually don't win five games until May. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Pettitte on the DL :( |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
The Tigers win one in extras to take the weekend series from the Twins to go 5-1 on the short season. I am simply amazed that the Tigers are 5-1. They usually don't win five games until May.
Mully,
You must be in heaven right now. . . maybe they'll be the Twins/Marlins of this year. |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Mully,
You must be in heaven right now. . . maybe they'll be the Twins/Marlins of this year.
Just enjoying it while it lasts. Its funny, around here people are up in arms that several of the April Tiger games won't be televisied due to Pistons/Red Wings playoff games. Detroit truly is a great baseball town but the team, until now, hasn't given the fans anything to cheer for since Cecil Fielder and his run @ 50 homers.
P.S.-Vasquez looked nice in his debut for the Yanks. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Vasquez did look good. . . and with Pettitte going down. . . hmmmm. . . thing is Mussina still looks like a puss. I thought that game 7 stint would change something in him. |
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| mullysalt |
With his stuff Vasquez looks like he could be the new "Pedro" in the AL minus the drama queen bit. If KB is healthy then everbody is playing for second to the Yanks IMHO 'cause them boys is gonna hit, don't worry 'bout that, y'all. Even though Jeter is from Michigan and a loyal supporter of the Maize and Blue not to mention a class act and great ambassador for the game, he should move and let AROD play SS. It gives them the best chance to win even more ballgames, maybe another run @ 120?
P.S.-The Tigers will come back to earth but they'll make a run for .500 and from where they are coming from that is amazing. Thank you, Marvin Miller and Curt Flood or else the Tigs would still be historically bad. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Astros sweep the Cards :cool: :1: |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Astros lose; but a rare inning for the Astro's Backe - he struck out the side on 9 pitches :D :cool: :1: |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Hidalgo is playing like an MVP candidate :cool: |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
Hidalgo is playing like an MVP candidate :cool:
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| laborlitigator |
| A week ago, we were 5 out and 3 under 500. What a difference a week makes. |
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| mullysalt |
| All the yankee haters must have come to their senses and realized it was just a matter of time. The rotation looks very solid with the return of Lieber. I think the bully is much better than last year and it's not like those guys were going to .200 as a team for very long. Alas, LL, my poor Tigers have slid all the way to .500. We should have a parade right down Woodward just because they're .500 and it's May. :p |
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| laborlitigator |
| The only change the Yankees might do is to acquire a lefty starter . . . I'd love either of the 2 lefties across town or perhaps Mr. Johnson out west. They would then place Mr. Contreras into the bullpen as the 3rd setup man for Rivera. |
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| laborlitigator |
| And the Sox lose again. . . 2-1 to Cleveland |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
And the Sox lose again. . . 2-1 to Cleveland
C'mon Bosox, Cleveland???? Even Detroit can hang with Cleveland. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| Houston Astros - Roger Clemens (5-0) :1: |
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| Maik |
Unlike my loyalty to the Pats, I am a true fair weather BoSox fan.
They may well have great pitching, but the rest sucks right now.
I am sure the hitting will show up at some point, but more and more it looks like Millar, Mueller and Ortiz all had fluke years last season.
Couple that with Nomar and Nixon's absence and we got real problems.
I suspect that if anyone suggested prior to the season start that they would be tied for first at this point, we would all be satisfied.
I got a feelin its gonna be a long season!
Hey, the way I look at it, 2 1/2 months til training camp! If the Sox keep it close til then, I will be a happy camper. |
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| msu79gt82 |
... for one of our most Productive Players:
Third-Baseman Mike Lamb :cool: :D :1: |
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| msu79gt82 |
| I hope the Asrtos are having this much fun in October. :1: |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by msu79gt82
I hope the Asrtos are having this much fum in October. :1:
Before the Astros fans get all excited, I think you guys should win a post season series first. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Unlike my loyalty to the Pats, I am a true fair weather BoSox fan.
They may well have great pitching, but the rest sucks right now.
I am sure the hitting will show up at some point, but more and more it looks like Millar, Mueller and Ortiz all had fluke years last season.
Couple that with Nomar and Nixon's absence and we got real problems.
I suspect that if anyone suggested prior to the season start that they would be tied for first at this point, we would all be satisfied.
I got a feelin its gonna be a long season!
Hey, the way I look at it, 2 1/2 months til training camp! If the Sox keep it close til then, I will be a happy camper.
Maik,
I don't care what you say. Bosox with your pitching is still the favorite. You dismantled the Yanks in 6 out of 7. So just because they're in a little bit of a skid, I don't want to hear it. I'd take your pitching staff over ours right now in a hearbeat (except for Mariano, of course). . . |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ... the "old" man done good :1: |
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| laborlitigator |
| Not bad for a 40 year old. . . :4: |
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| mullysalt |
I really enjoyed putting this question to my friend who is a die-hard Braves this morning,"Are the Tigers a better team than the Braves?" Ever since I've known her I've known the answer to the question and didn't have to ask. However, given the Braves recent results, 18K against Sheets and the Unit makes like Swisher Sweets and goes "perfecto" on them, I had to ask.
Late news from the west coast: BONDERMANIA sticks it to his former club getting the "w" in a 5-1 Tiger victory, against his buddy from the minors Rich Harden.
Tiger Insider news: Word on the street is that Da Meat Hook aka Dimtri Young will come back next Tuesday against the Royals in KC. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| The Rocket is indeed in rocketown :1: |
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| socalJD |
Is Ben Sheets perhaps the best young starting pitcher that nobody has heard of ?!?
Last nite he nearly pitches a perfect game against the Angels (broken up by an excuse me-seeing eye dribbler by Vlad Guerrero in the 7th) - ends up pitching a 1 hit/0 BB masterpiece over 9 innings with a ND !?! This boy needs to pitch in a big market city with a team that can score some runs behind him . . . |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
The Rocket is indeed in rocketown :1:
One thing I remember about Rocket when he was a Yankee is that he would "fatten" up on the lesser teams. However, when you wanted a big game, we really relied on Pettitte or even Wells. |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ... Pettitte is still on the DL (2nd timne this season) and Rocket keeps winning. |
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| mullysalt |
| Msu, you're missing the point. Pettitte is the guy you want on the mound in a big game not Rocket. These games in May and June are all very nice wins but Clemens is far from a clutch pitcher. LL, is right on.....I know you got your rocks off at the sight of Clemens at the HS games but trust me on this, Rocket pads his stats on lesser teams, insert a Detroit Tigers joke here. Heaven knows I watched him do it for the better part of twenty years against the Motor City Kitties...........Speaking of the Kitties I'm going to break off a trip to Comerica park today to enjoy a little interleague action against the Atlanta Braves. It's their first visit to Detroit, I have to make sure that they are properly welecomed.:D |
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| msu79gt82 |
| ... without those wins in May and June we won't make the playoffs. Playoffs are a long way off. |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
... without those wins in May and June we won't make the playoffs. Playoffs are a long way off.
Sure you are.....because the Astros are a bunch of choking dogs in the postseason and Pettitte is the one guy who has a sparkling record in such situations. Rocket might get you close but you'll need Pettitte to get you there.
P.S.-Is KB going to be alright, LL? I'm sure given your druthers you'd take Pettitte back in a heartbeat even with that sore arm and all.....Hhhhhmmmm maybe the Yanks knew what they were doing??? |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by socalJD
Is Ben Sheets perhaps the best young starting pitcher that nobody has heard of ?!?
JD, a guy from my hometown played with Sheets on TEAM USA in Sydney at the olympics when Tommy Lasorda managed the squad and he's been singing his praises ever since. So rest assured Sheets has a regular turn in my rotation on my first place fantasy baseball team. The guy is filthy just ask the braves whom he sat down 18 times in a game earlier this season.
P.S.-I killed that fly on the wall with a rolled up edition of ESPN the Ragizine after Kobe buried that three. |
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| socalJD |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
JD, a guy from my hometown played with Sheets on TEAM USA in Sydney at the olympics when Tommy Lasorda managed the squad and he's been singing his praises ever since. So rest assured Sheets has a regular turn in my rotation on my first place fantasy baseball team. The guy is filthy just ask the braves whom he sat down 18 times in a game earlier this season.
Hmmm, 1st place huh, so who else is on your staff ???
I've got Prior & Wood - last year I would've been in 1st, wouldn't you know they both pick this year to go DL'ing . . . Of course last year I had Zambrano & Sheets, what's this thing they call TIMING ?!? BTW my league is NL only 4x4 . . . |
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| mullysalt |
My staff is, Glavine, Buehrle, Vazquez, Penny, Oswalt, Sheets and the Big Unit. In the bully, Wagner, Mesa, Nathan and Danny Graves.
I won't even get into my lineup 'cause it's just as stacked, only five teams is too easy. |
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| socalJD |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
My staff is, Glavine, Buehrle, Vazquez, Penny, Oswalt, Sheets and the Big Unit. In the bully, Wagner, Mesa, Nathan and Danny Graves.
I won't even get into my lineup 'cause it's just as stacked, only five teams is too easy.
CHEATER ! How can you NOT be in 1st in a mixed league with only 5 owners ! You need to expand and let in another 7 owners or at least cut out the AL and go NL only . . . Jeezus Mully, that's like shooting fish in a barrel or taking candy from a baby . . . |
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| mullysalt |
| exactly, it isn't much fun.....Now my other two teams are both doing well. 4th in a 12 team,5X5 mixed, that was my first draft in ten years so I've had to do some tweaking on-the-fly. I'm also in first in a six man 5X5 with a bunch of Canucks. I haven't played in since AROD was a rookie so it's taken my a bit to get back in the groove. |
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| msu79gt82 |
... come to an end. But it was a good run.
The sports writers and fans are getting very vocal with their displeasure at being in 4h place. I believe there will be some changes coming soon. |
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| socalJD |
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Originally posted by msu79gt82
... come to an end. But it was a good run . . .
You see the glass as half empty, I see it as half full - The Rocket is already a 1st ballot HOF, but we may have witnessed the 'passing of the torch' . . . Prior may be 1st of the next generation of dominant starting pitchers (staff Ace) . . . |
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| mullysalt |
It must be All-Star time. So for the enjoyment and discussion by all and without further adieu here are mullysalt's 2004 MLB All-Star Squad.
*Note*-Every team won't be represented I'll leave that to MLB.
AL All-Stars
C-Pudge DET and V. Martinez CLE and Jorge Posada NYY
1B-Big Hurt CWS and D. Ortiz BOS
2B-Soriano TEX and Belliard CLE
SS-Gullien DET and Young TEX
3B-AROD NYY and H Blalock TEX*(Mora BAL would get this spot but he's been hurt the last ten days)
OF-Vlad ANH, MANRAM BOS and Carl Crawford TAM(Starters) and
Sheffield NYY, Ford MIN and Lawton CLE
Pitching Staff
M. Mulder(starter), Schill BOS, The Gambler TEX, Vazquez NYY, Mussina NYY and Pedro BOS. Relievers are J. Rincon MIN, J. Nathan MIN, F. Cordero TEX, M. Rivera NYY and KROD ANH.
Later this week my NL squad. |
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| mullysalt |
My NL squad
C-M. Piazza NYM and J. Estrada ATL and M. Barrett CHC
1B-Pujols STL and Thome PHI, Casey CIN
2B-M. Loretta SD and J Kent HOU
SS-J. Wilson PIT and B. Larkin CIN
3B-Rolen STL and Ramirez CHC, Lowell FLA
OF-Bonds SF, Berkman HOU and Abreu PHI(starters)
Cabrera FLA, Wilson PIT and Dunn CIN
Pitching Staff-
Randy Johnson ARI(Starter), Roger Clemens HOU, J. Schmidt SF, C. Pavano, C. Zambrano CHC. Relievers-Graves CIN, Benetiz FLA, Kolb MIL, Gagne LA and B. Lidge HOU. |
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| mullysalt |
| Did anyone watch the Yanks and BoSoX 13 inning Instant Classic last night? That is one of the best regular season ballgames that I've seen in quite a while. |
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| Maik |
Ya, I watched it. another great classic for Yank fans. That last out against the Yanks is so tough to get for the Red Flops.
I am not really much of a Sox fan, very much a fair weather fan. So all I really ask is that they make the first half of the season interesting til the Pats open training camp. Playing defense like a little league team, they have failed me this year. 9 Games behind, stick a fork in them, they are done. Nothing to do now but wait for the Sox to hoist yet another wild card flag, unless Tampa Bay catches them! |
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| laborlitigator |
| Jeter showed why you can't always rely on stats to judge a players worth to a team. What a catch! And seeing Mr. Garciaparra on the bench really exemplified Jeter's leadership qualities. |
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| mullysalt |
How weird was it to see Nomar just sitting there while Jeter was flying through the air like Superman? What about AROD's play with the bases loaded and nobody out?:eek: I have to admit that I really enjoy the Sox and Yanks games, the drama is GREAT!
It really is captivating stuff. Yanks best watch out 'cause the Motor City Wrecking Crew is coming to town next week! |
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| laborlitigator |
| Still, 3 games under .500 for the year is pretty good. In fact, you're only a game behind the Mets. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Jeter showed why you can't always rely on stats to judge a players worth to a team. What a catch! And seeing Mr. Garciaparra on the bench really exemplified Jeter's leadership qualities.
Beantown media is having a field day today with Nomah's riding the pine last night. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Beantown media is having a field day today with Nomah's riding the pine last night.
I think he wants out. But didn't he turn down 60M for 4 years? He shouldn't be complaining. |
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| mullysalt |
| Baseball games in July that matter for the Tigers. Believe it or not Detroit is a great baseball town but the fans have been so turned away in the last decade plus by the Tigs poor play. With Pudge and the other new Tigers and improved play of the holdovers like Infante and Inge has made their lineup one of the most powerful in the league. The Tigers almost have as many wins now as they did all of last year! Nate Robinson has really come on strong and the rest of the starters are more up than down, if the bullpen could just get their act together they could make a run in the second half. |
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| socalJD |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
My NL squad
C-M. Piazza NYM and J. Estrada ATL and M. Barrett CHC
1B-Pujols STL and Thome PHI, Casey CIN
2B-M. Loretta SD and J Kent HOU
SS-J. Wilson PIT and B. Larkin CIN
3B-Rolen STL and Ramirez CHC, Lowell FLA
OF-Bonds SF, Berkman HOU and Abreu PHI(starters)
Cabrera FLA, Wilson PIT and Dunn CIN
Pitching Staff-
Randy Johnson ARI(Starter), Roger Clemens HOU, J. Schmidt SF, C. Pavano, C. Zambrano CHC. Relievers-Graves CIN, Benetiz FLA, Kolb MIL, Gagne LA and B. Lidge HOU.
Due to overwhelming response, here's my midseason NL All-Stars:
C: Piazza NYM, Estrada ATL, Kendall PIT
1B: Thome PHI, Casey CIN, Helton COL
2B: Kent HOU, Vidro MON
SS: Wilson PIT, Loretta SD*
3B: Rolen STL, Ramirez CHC, Beltre LA
OF: Bonds SF, Abreu PHI, Pujols STL**
Berkman HOU, Finley ARI, Cabrera FLA
SP: Johnson ARI, Clemens HOU, Schmidt SF, Sheets MIL, Zambrano CHC
RP: Graves CIN, Benitez FLA, Kolb MIL, Gagne LA, Hoffman SD, Looper NYM
Honorable mention: Overbay MIL, Lowell FLA, Izturis LA, Drew ATL, C. Wilson PIT, Pavano FLA, Glavine NYM, Hawkins CHC
* Loretta is truly a 2B, but couldn't find another worthy SS
** Pujols s/b at 1B, but there are many more worthy 1B than OF |
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| MDteX |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Baseball games in July that matter for the Tigers. Believe it or not Detroit is a great baseball town but the fans have been so turned away in the last decade plus by the Tigs poor play. With Pudge and the other new Tigers and improved play of the holdovers like Infante and Inge has made their lineup one of the most powerful in the league. The Tigers almost have as many wins now as they did all of last year! Nate Robinson has really come on strong and the rest of the starters are more up than down, if the bullpen could just get their act together they could make a run in the second half.
We have the same thing in Texas. The Rangers actually have a winning record and are in first place! But it is a long time until the season ends. |
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| mullysalt |
Wow, since I posted last about the Tigs they have reverted back to their losing ways. Last night LL, that was a tough game to watch. Robertson hopefully will learn from the growing pains. If the Tigs don't win today they'll get swept because Mussina has been making them pay ever since they drafted Tony Clark instead of Moose. Now they're teammates, Geesh.:eek:
Something else finally dawned on me while watching the game. The Yanks now have AROD and Sheffield, WTF! :eek: :eek: :eek: |
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| laborlitigator |
Mark my words, if the Yanks don't get back Brown for the playoffs, they're going to be the 97 Indians. Awesome lineup, so-so pitching.
I really hope they get Moyer or Wells back. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Looks like the Yanks are gonna drop 2 out of 3 to the Tigers. |
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| mullysalt |
| Joe Torre screwed his own team last night by not playing the Detroit Tigers All-Star SS Carlos Gullien. Now watch as the Yanks come in for 4 and Carlos makes them pay for Torre leaving him on the bench. I'm going to Thursday night's game any words of encouragement you want me to pass along to the Yanks, LL?:2: |
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| Maik |
| Another Yankee fan jumps off the bandwagon: |
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| msu79uh04 |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Another Yankee fan jumps off the bandwagon:
22-0 :eek:
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| mullysalt |
Step up and start ripping on each others teams. It's that time of year and quite frankly I find the back and forth quite amusing.
P.S.-Tigers' bullpen=crap |
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| laborlitigator |
| Enough said. . . |
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| laborlitigator |
| oK. . . . how 26-0 |
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| laborlitigator |
| Here's another one. . . |
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| laborlitigator |
| Another one, just in case you forgot |
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| laborlitigator |
| Or how about this one. . . |
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| laborlitigator |
| Another angle for you. . . |
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| mullysalt |
| C'mon BoSoX Fans! The Yankees took a historic whuppin' last night. |
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| daluth |
| Can you hear the footsteps yet? |
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| keremoner |
| This is the year for us BoSox fans. The trade for Nomar is finally working out. Defense, pitching, and scoring are all coming together. Is it possible or will the Sox find a way to blow it again? I have faith that the curse will be history. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
This is the year for us BoSox fans. The trade for Nomar is finally working out. Defense, pitching, and scoring are all coming together. Is it possible or will the Sox find a way to blow it again? I have faith that the curse will be history.
I have faith in the local 9 to find yet another way to blow it. After all they are far more creative than any other sports franchise in America at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Having said that, I will say that the current run that the Sox are on is certainly making for some fun in Beantown these days.
While I am not convinced that the Sox will catch and pass the evil empire, the Yankee's lack of starting pitching has begun to show its ugly head and will likely be the reason for their demise this year. |
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| laborlitigator |
This one was pretty close. . .
June 19, 2000: The Yankees beat the Red Sox 22-1, handing them their most-lopsided home loss ever. New York scored sixteen runs in the final two innings of the game. |
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| laborlitigator |
Taken directly from "soxsuck.com"
". . . is pleased to present the past 85 years of Red Sox highlights in head-to-head competition against their archrival, the New York Yankees:"
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| gdot |
I heard on sports radio this morning that the curse of the bambino might be over. A guy who happens to live in Babe Ruth's old house got hit in the face with a foul ball and drew blood. :D
Either that or it pissed the bambino off even more. :3: |
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| laborlitigator |
| Here's a pic from the last time the Sox won the Series |
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| mullysalt |
:eek: The Babe was skinny the last time the Sox won.
P.S.-Now that's some quality smack, LL. Also the first time I've ever seen anyone go back 104 years to run some smack. Good work. |
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| daluth |
First of all, Mully it's only been 86 years since the last world series win for the Red Sox. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
LL- That 22-1 Yankee win you mention is again in the past, as is Ruth, as is everything else you've posted. Give me three good reasons why the Yankees win the AL East. And I don't want to see some snide comment about how the Sox always blow it as a reason. I'm seriously curious what kind of an argument you can make right now considering the state of the rotation (El Duque, pray for rain....). |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
:eek: The Babe was skinny the last time the Sox won.
P.S.-Now that's some quality smack, LL. Also the first time I've ever seen anyone go back 104 years to run some smack. Good work.
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by daluth
First of all, Mully it's only been 86 years since the last world series win for the Red Sox. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
LL- That 22-1 Yankee win you mention is again in the past, as is Ruth, as is everything else you've posted. Give me three good reasons why the Yankees win the AL East. And I don't want to see some snide comment about how the Sox always blow it as a reason. I'm seriously curious what kind of an argument you can make right now considering the state of the rotation (El Duque, pray for rain....).
Reason 1: Red Sox have a much weaker bullpen.
Reason 2: Pedro's record against the Yankees is only .500 and couldn't close the door against them last year. Schilling, for all his brilliance, didn't look to good last time out against us.
Reason 3: Yankees starters only have to go 6 innings. |
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| mullysalt |
| Here's one reason. They're a bunch of choking dogs and they're sucking you in again. |
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| daluth |
The way I see it, reasons number 1 and 3 are the same thing. And because they're the same thing, they're also both wrong. The sox bullpen has a better ERA (3.83 vs. 4.20), better BAA (.250 vs. .264) and have thrown less innings (343 vs. 411). I know that Gordon and Quantrill are having great years, but look at their numbers. They've thrown a lot of innings and have been suspect lately. Of course we can't forget about the other members of that pen, guys like Sturtz and Nitkowski who certainly put fear into nobody. Yes, Rivera is still the anchor, but you have to make it deep in the game with a lead and that seems to be harder and harder for them to do. Just look at the past few weeks and how many starters have gone 6 innings.
As for Pedro, .500 record or not I'd still rather see him standing on the hill for a game 7 than any one of the Yankee starters right now. Same goes for Schilling. |
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