| TYP |
Ewww.. is that Benz hood with X5 side profile, and MDX fender?
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| dipersp |
Looks like a big green NOOOO for me. I like last year's the best so far.
And I'm sure if it's like the rest of the Mopar products, you guys would be screaming up and down over the gas mileage. |
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| Ceenit |
I like the freshened look and agree with the article that said the last version was looking a little to streamlined for the 4x4 enthusiasts.
The Grand Cherokee has always been a great value IMO. For about 21k, you can get a decently loaded new GC with 4 wheel drive with some real off road ability, and still enough refinement to look good going down the highway.
I wouldn't trade my X for one. But if my budget were more limited, that is the name plate I would be going after. My prior one went 170k with no major mechanical problems. I ended up giving it to may father who has since put another 14k on it with no problems. |
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| RealWing |
Been there, done that.
I had a leased 2000 JGC Limited for 3 years before I got the MDX and had many quality problems. Warped brakes were the worst. I think I had 3 sets before I finally gave up and put on aftermarket cross drilled rotors. Many engine sensors went bad. Bad powertrain whine that DC kept denying was a problem. Turns out Dana Corp - (who has made axles for eons,) had many quality problems that they did not fix. DC knew , but just kept shipping the Jeeps out the door regardless. Had to replace driveshafts etc etc.
My son also had terrible quality problems with a 2001 Neon R/T. Engine went, tranny, water leaks etc. DC customer service (??)stonewalled him all the way. Finally had to go to arbitration to force DC to buy it back. He won and got his money back.
And DC cant figure out why their sales keep going down!!!!
Goodby DC- I love my MDX!!!!! |
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| minsane |
| I am also a previous Jeep Grand Cherokee limited owner ('98 - year before the last version). The car was great at first and I enjoyed it until everything started to break down. I have vowed since to stick with Japanese engines. This new one looks ugly IMHO. VERY VERY HAPPY WITH MY X! |
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| Fabvsix |
| I've bought Honda's since 1984 to present. Acura's since 2000. Why would I buy American cars ? Can anyone convince me "why" I should buy an American car ?:rolleyes: :confused: :rolleyes: ;) |
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| MDX4now |
| If you plan on keeping your cars for a long period of time or like to get rid of your cars after 3-4 years and have them still be worth something, get Japanese....but if you want the most bells and whistles for your buck, you can't go wrong with American... |
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| lawboy02 |
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Originally posted by Fabvsix
Can anyone convince me "why" I should buy an American car ?:rolleyes: :confused: :rolleyes: ;)
UHHH...resale value!? LOL :2: |
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| DaleB |
| Since it's inception I have been trying to figure out what's so 'Grand' about it. |
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| dham |
quote:
Originally posted by Ceenit
I like the freshened look and agree with the article that said the last version was looking a little to streamlined for the 4x4 enthusiasts.
The Grand Cherokee has always been a great value IMO. For about 21k, you can get a decently loaded new GC with 4 wheel drive with some real off road ability, and still enough refinement to look good going down the highway.
I wouldn't trade my X for one. But if my budget were more limited, that is the name plate I would be going after. My prior one went 170k with no major mechanical problems. I ended up giving it to may father who has since put another 14k on it with no problems.
I actually expected more of a dramatic change to the looks of the JGC. There's certainly some change to the front end, but the overall shape/look isn't hugely different (at least from the photo that neide posted).
As for the experience with your Jeep, I also had great luck with my '99 JGC, which I traded-in for my X in Jan. However, as you're probably aware, we were the lucky ones. Based on every survey I've seen of quality ratings/experience with the JGC, their problem rate is way above average. In fact, I think it was Consumer Reports that put the JGC on its "do not buy" list for people shopping for a used vehicle.
Hope you're enjoying your X as much as I am mine... |
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| neide |
quote:
Originally posted by Ceenit
I like the freshened look and agree with the article that said the last version was looking a little to streamlined for the 4x4 enthusiasts.
The Grand Cherokee has always been a great value IMO. For about 21k, you can get a decently loaded new GC with 4 wheel drive with some real off road ability, and still enough refinement to look good going down the highway.
I wouldn't trade my X for one. But if my budget were more limited, that is the name plate I would be going after. My prior one went 170k with no major mechanical problems. I ended up giving it to may father who has since put another 14k on it with no problems.
Agree on almost all counts. I've had a couple, and enjoyed them. Different vehicle then the X, not really a direct competitor, but has its charm. Now I'm not trading in my X for one, either. Definetly not. |
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| The X-men |
| As a previous Grand Cherokee owner, I must say that this new design is very very disappointing. I was hoping for a sleeker look, the sleek look work for them on the last redesign. I agree with most comments here about the GC, it is a nice car for the first 2 or 3 years, then everything , I mean everything, started falling apart. After having said that, the GC is still one of the best SUV in the snow and off road regardless of price. |
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| dham |
quote:
Originally posted by yogi799
headlamps stolen from a Hyundai. pity on jeep
previous body was better looking in my opinion.
And after looking at the photos in the article that neide provided a link to, the back end looks somewhat like the Mitsubishi Endeavor's. |
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| Captain MDX |
| The taillight look a lot like the Chevy Equinox (spell correct?) from that angle. |
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| xfactor |
| eh, I give it a C.. |
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| luvdodo |
| Here's another look... |
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| luvdodo |
| The Insider...Doesn't this look more like a 4 seater ? |
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| dham |
After pulling up behind a Chrysler Pacifica tonight on the way home, I noticed a resemblance between it and the new JGC's rear...
I agree with xfactor...give it a C... |
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| renov8r |
I know probably 8-10 at work and on the block who have GC and they mostly like 'em for their SIZE. You cannot beat the headroom (in the non-sunroof models), driver's legroom, and "butt room"/width UNLESS you go up to an Expedition/Yukon -- of course those are MUCH bigger overall.
Nobody I know takes 'em off road, though they DO agree that the 4WD is great in snow.
The full economy ranges from "poor" in the base engine to "whatwasIthinking" in the models with the big V8.
Jeep absolutely HAS to do something to make these thing WAY WAY more fuel efficient!
There is also WAY TOO WIDE a range in prices for these things -- you get a 'starter' model for low/mod twenties, but as they lay on the option packages these things push $40K -- this forces HUGE discounts to move the top end models off the lots and make resale HORRIBLE...
These thing were ALREADY not b-o-f, they did, however have solid axles -- the Detroit News reporter got that wrong. Disappointingly they seem to have kept the HUGELY OUTDATED "spare under the carpet of the cargo area" -- every other vehicle in this wide segment has it underneath the car or "macho style" on a rear carrier. How "1960 station wagon"are they trying to be...
I wonder what effect the independant suspension might have on TOWING, of which GCs are VERY popular, and also as 'toads" behind huge coaches (though I thing that is becuase of the ability to 'push button select' the "no wheel drive mode" of disengaging both front & rear diffs...
The pic in "chamapagne bronze" above is of a current front-end (you can tell becuase the new one has actual "curves" echoing the lights in the HOOD LINE" where the current model has a flat hood, echoing the flatness of the top of the composite head light housing, not the roundness of the internal reflector...) pointing out the last mistake: the new doesn't just look like the 'heritage' of the old, it looks like maybe a model year variant, not an "all new" version. They really, really, really needed to go much much much more "radical macho" on this looks. There are like NO young guys driving GCs -- they 100% want something that says "hardcore" and this design is NOT IT |
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| evoge |
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Originally posted by renov8r
Disappointingly they seem to have kept the HUGELY OUTDATED "spare under the carpet of the cargo area" -- every other vehicle in this wide segment has it underneath the car
That means the gas tank is still only a few inches from the rear bumper, aka "Pinto Style". |
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| X4ME |
| As a previous owner of a 2000 GC I too can attest to what a piece of Sh*T this truck is. Each day I owned it I regreted ever buying it (call it an impulse buy). I traded it in for my '04 in a heart beat and never looked back. I will NEVER buy a domestic again. |
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| remery |
Yep, I traded in the Tootsie Roll for a Midnight Blue 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a Hemi. Most of you are wondering why someone would go over to the dark side and purchase an American Vehicle over our much cherished MDX. The short answer is the MDX is a car that rides like a truck and the Jeep is a truck that rides like a car and represents a significantly better value than either the 2005 MDX or Infiniti FX35. The long answer is as follows:
Ride: The new Jeep is much quieter and smoother riding on the highway. So is my Wife’s 2004 Envoy XUV. Both vehicles offer significantly better isolation from road and wind noise than the MDX. Jeep Rules
Engine: The 330 HP 5.7L Hemi V8 has 90 more HP than my 2001 MDX and 65 more than the 2005 MDX plus more than 100 ft-lbs more torque. Arguably one of the best engines available on a vehicle that costs less than $40K and yes is only a $1,245 adder compared with $4K-$6K adder for its Japanese and German competitors. I’m a horsepower junkie so…Jeep Obliterates
Price: My new Jeep stickers out at $4K less than a comparably equipped MDX but combined with $2K of rebates and dealers selling much closer to invoice, the differential is closer to $8K. That combined with the $8K or more differential with the Honda Pilot, it gets really tough to justify paying that much more for the MDX today. Four years ago, the MDX at full sticker was still cheaper than any other comparable vehicle. The difference in the past 3 years is the competition has caught up at the same or lower price. Jeep Rules
Fuel Economy: The Hemi has a Multiple Displacement System that electronically, not mechanically like the Cadillac 4-6-8 of the early ‘80s, turns off 4 cylinders when the engine is not under load. This has produced a 1-2 mpg improvement over my two prior Jeeps with V8s that were 700-1,000 lbs lighter. Still, on the round same trip the Jeep got 16.7 mpg compared with the MDX at 19.2 mpg. Like the MDX, the Jeep suffers with a small gas tank compared to its thirst for mid-grade vs. premium petro. More frequent trips to the gas station. MDX Rules
Handling: The Jeep steering is not as taut as the MDX or Infiniti but is better than my previous two Jeep GCs. In spite of this the Jeep is more nimble and drives like a much smaller vehicle because it is both shorter and narrower with a shorter turning radius. With full time 4WD compared to the essentially FWD bias of the MDX, some will prefer the slightly faster cornering of the MDX unless you accelerate around curves which tends to equalize things. Different feel and perhaps is more of a preference than true superiority. Neither Rules.
Interior: Jeep has higher quality leather and interior materials compared with my MDX. Some may prefer Japanese understatement over American design but I definitely prefer the latter. The driver ergonomics are much better in the Jeep with placement of the controls, having the navi screen and radio placed at speedometer height. and no controls on the left side under the steering wheel. Also no dead foot hump that cramps driver leg room in the MDX. Jeep Rules
Front Seat Comfort: The Jeep has more comfortable and softer seats than the MDX or Infiniti plus more leg room. This is especially true for the passenger seat which is restricted in the MDX Touring by the air bag enclosure and was a constant source of complaints by my wife every time she rode with me.
Jeep rules
Back Seat Comfort: Here is where families with 2 order children may find the Jeep cramped. It definitely has less leg room and less hip and shoulder room than the MDX. If hauling four or more grownup sized-people is a major consideration then the MDX is a better choice. MDX Rules
Cargo Space: The new Jeep is larger than its predecessors but still does not offer as much cargo space. However the middle seats in the Jeep fold totally flat compared to the incline for the MDX middle seats. The headrests in the Jeep also fold under to offer additional space. Still… MDX Rules
Navigation System and Trip Computer: Clearly the touch screen Alpine system in the MDX is a better interface than the Alpine joystick-enter key system in the Jeep. Both have about the same functionality but the MDX provides it more efficiently. A mitigating factor is the Jeep Navi is bundled with a 6-CD changer, AM-FM Radio for only $1.200 which is by far the least expensive system I have encountered in the past 4 years. The graphics are better on the Jeep system than on my old MDX but the latter has a much better Trip computer…MDX Rules
Sound System: The Alpine Radio-CD Player combined with a 288 watt Boston Acoustics amplifier and speakers produces a crisper and punchier sound than the Bose system in the MDX. I had Satellite Radio (aftermarket in the MDX-factory in the Jeep, so the difference is even more noticeable. Jeep Rules
Manufacturing Quality: Conventional wisdom would say the MDX to be clearly superior in this dimension but I am not sure that will be the case. Daimler has brought Mercedes parts and engineering to the new Jeep which includes a new 4WD system that is as if not more sophisticated than even VTM and so far seems to provide superior traction in slippery conditions. My MDX was hardly flawless with weeping mirrors, a thud riddled front suspension and a driver seat that shifted on left turns, all of which required multiple trips to the dealer for warranty repairs. Still only time will tell as to which rules in this dimension.
Pooch Pampering - Finally the Jeep, unlike the MDX, Has a Room with a View!!!! CAN YOU SAY HEMI:D |
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| DaleB |
Time will be the real test, remery. But best of luck and happy miles. I have no doubt from a 'dollar outlay' viewpoint, the GC is a better value right off the mark.
I am still very skeptical about domestic vehicles. Twice burned, thrice shy?
I have a friend considering a Cadillac CTS. I told him an Infiniti or Acura was a wiser choice. Especially for resale, and longterm reliability. But I can not deny the passion or appeal in terms of style and flash.
I saw two black CTSs playing cat & mouse on the freeway the other day, and have to admit, they certainly have enough of appeal to stir up my testosterone.
But again, time is the real test. |
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| renov8r |
quote:
Originally posted by remery
Yep, I traded in the Tootsie Roll for a Midnight Blue 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a Hemi. ...
I'm sad. Whenever I'd see you & the plate around town I'd smile! It got so bad that the I'd slow down whenever I thought I spotted an MDX in your color...
The Hemi sounds interesting, and I do like the color, but w/o a third row it is not even thinkable...
I'll keep an eye for you in the new ride! |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by remery
Yep, I traded in the Tootsie Roll for a Midnight Blue 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a Hemi.
Oh wow another certified old fart says goodbye :( The old .org ain't what it used to be. Thanks for the good times, the good write-up, and good luck with the new wheels :cool: :1:
You may want to post an "official: goodbye here (I know some of the Old-Timers monitor threads like these): http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...&threadid=16123 |
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| Lance Crowley |
"remery" has hit it very close to my take on the new GC. I had a '97 and a '99 GC that were very good to me, no non-scheduled maintenance for either. I tow my trucks behind my motor home and the GC handles this very well.
Took a new GC with a hemi for a ride day-before-yesterday. They've made significant improvements, in all respects, over my previous GC's. Better ride than my X, the hemi is significantly quicker (I too am a torque/hp junkie), less noise going down the road. As I said "remery" hit it very close to my impression.
Many folks on the forum have questioned the reliability of the GC; let's consider all the X's in general and mine in particular. I don't see any other brands that have a separate thread for transmission problems, the gas tank "slosh" is well documented, as is the brake clunk, 70 mph "roar" + several other long term and recurring problems. While I've been very pleased with my X, until my most recent problems, it is nowhere the "bullet proof" vehicle my LS400 was.
As to my particular X, as documented elsewhere on this forum, I'm now (or soon will be) on my 3rd tranny (original + 2 replacements), my battery went bad in less than a year, I took it in three times before they fixed the brake clunk.
As I look at it, all things considered, I don't see that I'm taking much risk by changing to a GC, if that's in fact what I decide to do. I see nothing out there, and given my own experience, that tells me that the X is much more reliable than a GC.
We'll see how Acura handles my current problem, so far the most significant difference I've noted between Jeep and Acura is the service. Acura has been super and Jeep very so-so. How they handle my current issue will determine if I remain an Acura customer. |
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| MDteX |
I too hate to see another old-timer depart but that is life. Everytime I see a "tootsie-roll" MDX I think of Remery.
The GC sounds like a nice ride and has many nice features but to those of us who need the extra cargo space and the third row it isn't an option. Besides I'm still in love with my MDX.
Good luck with the new ride Remery and stop back by to say hello!
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| anjan |
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Originally posted by Lance Crowley
As I look at it, all things considered, I don't see that I'm taking much risk by changing to a GC, if that's in fact what I decide to do. I see nothing out there, and given my own experience, that tells me that the X is much more reliable than a GC.
While your problems with the MDX are certainly a big issue, that doesn't mean that you can compare a Grand Cherokee's reliability (one of the worst) to an MDX which is way above average. It would've made sense if you were making the statement choosing a Audi Allroad, Lexus RX330, or a Honda Pilot.
In other words, if reliability is a big issue try to make a valid point by moving to a more reliable vehicle. |
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| remery |
quote:
Originally posted by anjan
...In other words, if reliability is a big issue try to make a valid point by moving to a more reliable vehicle.
Now lets talk about reliability, build quality etc. amongst the vehicles I have owned over the past 5 years. 3 have been Japanese brands Subaru and Acura while the other 2 have been American, GMC. I'm not including my new Jeep since I have had it less than a month. The 3 Japanese cars all required trips to the dealer for warranty or non-warranty work excluding maintenance. However, with the two GMCs, the trips to the dealer for warranty repairs were non-existent. My point here is that categorically classifying American brands as inferior products just ain't the case from my recent experience. Another consideration for Jeep quality versus the past is this is the first major model upgrade where Daimler has had an impact on design and parts used which also is a departure from the past. This Daimler influence also has had an impact on other Chrylser vehicles such as the 300. |
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| anjan |
Excellent point remery.
Just keep two things in mind - I cannot count my personal vehicle experience as indicative of anything. We are looking for a probability, which means averaging all the vehicles over years to get a "rating".
Second, I would even buy a first year Lexus, much less a car company that has a penchant for throwing things together at the last minute to create their "innovative" products. One of the reasons, I didn't want to wait for the next generation MDX. It'd be a nightmare with the first model year.
Certainly, all the best to you because it is a beautiful car and hope it serves you well. |
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| Ceenit |
I went by the Jeep dealership a few weeks ago just to take a closer look and to see how incented the dealer was to sell one of their '05 models. Being a long time Jeep owner (Renegade, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee), I really liked what I saw in the new GC. Some nice added features and improvements over past models.
It doesn't compete with the MDX, but for true Jeep enthusiasts who put some stock in off road capabilities, it's a great value and is nicely refined.
Unfortunately, the dealer was still a little to proud of their new models to come down to the price I was willing to pay. But I left them my card and said to call me when the rebates and incentives lined up with my offer. It will probably be either July or one of their end of year specials before I get my price, but I'm in no rush.
It did really irk the sales manager when I wouldn't pay the extra few thousand on what he thought was a great deal. I know my price is reasonable, but I understand that if they can make more profit off the same car with another customer, that's good business for them. It is nice to be in the drivers seat on timing and price. |
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| Lance Crowley |
Again I must concur with "remery". As stated, nearly 5 years of GC's and no non-scheduled trips to the dealer vrs two, that's 2.0 transmissions in two (2) months. Maybe I was just lucky on my 2 GC's and maybe I've been unlucky with my X, but, it's darn difficult to tell me that Acura's quality is better.
What I really wish is that I could get to the next model year on the GC before buying. I do have doubts about 1st year models. |
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| remery |
quote:
Originally posted by anjan
...Just keep two things in mind - I cannot count my personal vehicle experience as indicative of anything. We are looking for a probability, which means averaging all the vehicles over years to get a "rating...
That was exactly my point. The numbers don't match my experience so where is the truth? This is my counterpoint to your articulated conventional wisdom. If your signature is an indicator of your car ownership experience then it has been confined to Honda products. My experience with Honda products has not been as good as with other manufactuers, Japanese and American. I have owned 20 different vehicles in the past 25 years from 12 different manufacturers. I believe I can reasonably say that my experience approaches statistical significance. And of those 12 have been new models or years with major redesign. In only 3 of those 12 have I had to go to the dealer for more than once for warranty work, an 82 Honda Accord, a 93 Jeep GC and my MDX. Sorry, but my experience just doesn't match the statistics so that's why I tend to "Walk Alone" instead of confining myself to conventional wisdom. Your approach results in safer decisions, mine, results in more fun ones and many times at a lower cost!!! ;) ;) |
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| DaleB |
| As much as I enjoy my MDX, and after all this time reading thousands of posts on this forum, somehow I would find it more difficult to believe anyone would walk away from a Lexus, but maybe not an Acura. |
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| 04mdx4sq |
| You will find someone who has had a bad experience with anything. We would all like to be able to say we made the best choice, no one likes to be seen as making the wrong choice. I have had no real problems with my MDX or RSX-S or my Honda CBR motorcycles, but I have had bad experiences with all 3 major American makes. I have no personal experience with the new GC, but a friend of mine bought one a couple of weeks ago. After 150 miles, the "check engine" light came on. She took it to the dealership and after a quick computer diagnosis, the tech told her the reason the light had come on was that she had hit the brake and gas at the same time and it caused a sensor to go out. She left it for a week and a half, she got the car back with no real good explanation of the problem. I'm sure this was probably an isolated incident, but was the only experience I have on the new GC, so it would make me leery of buying one. There is no perfect car that never has problems, if there were that would be the car everyone has. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by 04mdx4sq
There is no perfect car that never has problems, if there were that would be the car everyone has.
I seriously doubt that. There a lots of great automotive choices to be made including the GC, MDX, etc. etc. And even at that, I see some really bad choices on the road. Not to mention the people who should not even be on the road. :D |
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| remery |
quote:
Originally posted by DaleB
As much as I enjoy my MDX, and after all this time reading thousands of posts on this forum, somehow I would find it more difficult to believe anyone would walk away from a Lexus, but maybe not an Acura.
DaleB,
The reason I walked away from my Acura MDX was not out of dissatisfaction, rather my needs changed. I think there is a chance the same thing could apply to a Lexus owner that would cause them to walk away. This is another dimension which has to be considered. |
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| remery |
quote:
Originally posted by renov8r
I'm sad. Whenever I'd see you & the plate around town I'd smile! It got so bad that the I'd slow down whenever I thought I spotted an MDX in your color...
The Hemi sounds interesting, and I do like the color, but w/o a third row it is not even thinkable...
I'll keep an eye for you in the new ride!
Still have the same plate so give me a honk next time you see me!:D |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by remery
DaleB,
The reason I walked away from my Acura MDX was not out of dissatisfaction, rather my needs changed. I think there is a chance the same thing could apply to a Lexus owner that would cause them to walk away. This is another dimension which has to be considered.
That's a good point. I can understand how needs change also. But I just have a feeling there is a bit MORE satisfaction with a Lexus than there would be with an Acura in terms of hassle-free ownership. However, a good portion of that could be attributed to dealerships. |
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| Rick_James |
I owned a 03 GC Laredo 4x4 w/ the AWD QT tranny and I-6 motor.
Was not bad, but no where nice as the 01 MDXs that I been checking out.
It had an wine noise in the front axel once you exceed to 60-70 mph. Annoying.
Sometimes the driver passagner rear door, would not open by the remote or door switch. I had to sometimes reach in there to flip the lock swich manually. I only had 22K on it. Did take it to the dealership and they said it was all normal. I traded it!!
Here some news on the o5 Jeeps:
2005 Grand Cherokee recall (100,000 vehicles) - potential engine fire
http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/na...ll20050916.html |
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| remery |
quote:
Originally posted by Rick_James
I owned a 03 GC Laredo 4x4 w/ the AWD QT tranny and I-6 motor...
2005 Grand Cherokee recall (100,000 vehicles) - potential engine fire
Honda isn't the only major auto company with transmission problems. The affected vehicle in this recall is the GC Laredo with the V6 engine which has had other transmission problems. My Jeep is the GC Limited with the Hemi. The two vehicles have entirely different drive trains and transmissions. Unfortunately, there are many more Laredos than Limiteds like mine out there which is why the recall is so big. No excuses just some more facts. My two previous Jeeps were inferior to my 2001 MDX. However, after 8 months of ownership, my new Jeep has so far proven to be a better. But, the proof positive will be after 36 months, so the jury is still out in my mind. |
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| G. COLTON |
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Originally posted by MDX4now
If you plan on keeping your cars for a long period of time or like to get rid of your cars after 3-4 years and have them still be worth something, get Japanese....but if you want the most bells and whistles for your buck, you can't go wrong with American...
Also the most comfort and the least cost for repairs. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by Rick_James
It had an wine noise...
Need to strap those bottles down! ;) |
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| Rick_James |
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Originally posted by DaleB
Need to strap those bottles down! ;)
Auh shucks.... Drinking and driving.
Meant to say grinding noise :1: |
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| Rick_James |
quote:
Originally posted by G. COLTON
Also the most comfort and the least cost for repairs.
Import or Domestic? ;) |
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| Holland |
Just noticed this topic.
I sold my 99 Grand Cherokee a few weeks ago and purchased an MDX. My experience with the GC was anything but happy, warped rotors three times, differential rebuild($850), one each front and rear wheel bearing, front end work($825), plus some other smaller stuff. I usually sell my vehicles in the paper but with this one I couldn't look anyone in the face and tell them it was good so I sold it to Carmax. When I sold it the rotors were warped again, drive train whine("It's cost about $450 to open up the transfer case repair the leaks and depending on what we find it will go up from there", Jeep Dealer), popping noise in the front end. The GC looked good and the a/c worked well.
Anyway this was my worst car experience. I concluded I needed a good quality vehicle, wanted a Lexus but the RX 330 was too small, too girly and wouldn't be good for carrying my kayak so we decided on the MDX. Of course the MDX isn't exactly ideal for carrying a kayak either. For the first 1000 miles of driving about every 15 minutes my wife said "I just love this car", so we're off to a good start. |
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| Ceenit |
The base model Grand Cherokkee is being advertised for 17,999 from a local dealer. I went to the dealership just to see what sales slickery was really going on, but it was for real. It was a base model, but still that is an incredible price for a brand new car with a 3/36 warranty.
Unfortunately, they didn't have any similarly incredible deals on 4x4, or model's with leather.
If I needed another second car, this is a good value.
Caveat - per my earlier threads, I am a long time Jeep lover, and have have very good luck with them. But, will not get sucked into any thread comparing them with my X. Banannas and Brocolli, I love them both, but for very different reasons. |
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