| neide |
Kerry Says He Would Cap Federal Spending...
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20.../D81QBIUO0.html
Democrat John Kerry said Wednesday that if elected president he will cap federal spending and acknowledged that doing so will require him to cut some of his campaign promises.
Hmm, is Bush the only one that doesn't realize he has a spending problem? |
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| keremoner |
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Originally posted by neide
Kerry Says He Would Cap Federal Spending...
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20.../D81QBIUO0.html
Democrat John Kerry said Wednesday that if elected president he will cap federal spending and acknowledged that doing so will require him to cut some of his campaign promises.
Oh yes, and there is a santa claus! If Kerry ever cuts anything, it will be the military budget because he disdains it as much as any liberal. |
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| renov8r |
...the foolish of this, face it, this would be 100% impossible.
First, the President does NOT authorize spending. By traditon, law, the Consitution, and opinion of the Supreme Court itis NEVER within the President's authority to spend more or less than is authorized by the CONGRESS.
Second, the VAST MAJORITY of government SPENDING is on things like SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE and other BENEFITS that are so locked in place that no one could touch 'em. The next biggest category of government 'expenditures' is the INTREST on the national debt, an area that is again OFF LIMITS, unless we have a freakin' third world country style COUP with a LOONEY DICTATOR who decides to pocket the cash himself -- not very likely.
(BTW, if Kerry, or anybody else, wanted to cut the military budget don't you think that we would still have a helluva lot people in the armed services, don't you think they deserve to be PAID, have some decent level of benefits/healthcare, have some equipment to DEFEND themselves with???)
NEXT giant hurdle to this piece of horsepucky campaign BS would be the FACT that whenever the CONGRESS has enacted anything even resembling a "cap" or even limit on rate of increase CONGRESS has COMEBACK AND TORN IT UP! And do you really think that Kerry, Senator from MA, Lt Govenor to Mike "how big a hole can we put in the budget" Dukakias, will change his spots on this?!?
Believe me, I wish that things were better than they were. I just got my 'raise' for 04: 2.75%, and that is on top of "ZERO" for '03. I know that a) if the government spends less it will mean even less business for us (the Feds aren't a big customer of ours, but they do spend money in the private sector -- it isn't like there are giant factories that produce/consume only Fed contracts) b) if taxes go UP I'll have even less at the end of the paycheck...
Argue all you want about Bush being "too eager to singlehandedly battle Iraq" but please don't make me laugh that Kerry is capable of spending less. |
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| neide |
| Hnmm, so its the democrats that control the house and senate? Wait, no, its the Republicans. And was it Bush's "Save Medicare Plan" ? Yes, I believe it was. While Bush may not completely control spending, even most of my more conservative friends agree that he is mostly responsible for the record-sized deficit we now have. You can debate whether its for a good cause or not, but you can't debate the size of it. Its appalling, plain and simple. |
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| neide |
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Originally posted by renov8r
(BTW, if Kerry, or anybody else, wanted to cut the military budget don't you think that we would still have a helluva lot people in the armed services, don't you think they deserve to be PAID, have some decent level of benefits/healthcare, have some equipment to DEFEND themselves with???)
I love this argument. Don't you think just maybe there is some fat in the budgets somewhere here? You sound like a ...gasp... liberal. A cut in budget doesn't always mean huge job or pay losses, you know that, right? |
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| xfactor |
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Originally posted by keremoner
Oh yes, and there is a santa claus! If Kerry ever cuts anything, it will be the military budget because he disdains it as much as any liberal.
Kerry wouldn't be able to go to the bathroom without the Reps permission, much less try to cut, or spend anything. Remember, the Reps have Capital Hill on lockdown... |
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| neide |
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Originally posted by xfactor
Kerry wouldn't be able to go to the bathroom without the Reps permission, much less try to cut, or spend anything. Remember, the Reps have Capital Hill on lockdown...
That may change in November. Lets see just how pissed off the voters are. |
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| keremoner |
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Originally posted by xfactor
Kerry wouldn't be able to go to the bathroom without the Reps permission, much less try to cut, or spend anything. Remember, the Reps have Capital Hill on lockdown...
Little good that does. There is majority and then there is fillybuster-proof majority. Huge difference between the two. Reps haven't even been able get a vote on Prez's judicial nominees thanks to dem fillybuster. This is your today's lesson on Government 101. |
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| xfactor |
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Originally posted by keremoner
Little good that does. There is majority and then there is fillybuster-proof majority. Huge difference between the two. Reps haven't even been able get a vote on Prez's judicial nominees thanks to dem fillybuster. This is your today's lesson on Government 101.
Now for your lesson on Government 102. I'll just take time to give you one example...The Prez does not let any little " fillybuster" deter him... its a futile tactic. You should know that. :confused: Note Charles Pickering's appointment during a congressional recess.
WASHINGTON — President Bush used his executive authority Friday to bypass Senate Democrats and install District Judge Charles Pickering on the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108685,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...bush.pickering/
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=4083
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=12676
As a federal judge, Charles Pickering:
criticized the “one-person, one-vote” principle recognized by the Supreme Court.
suggested that large deviations from equality in drawing legislative district lines, which the Supreme Court has held presumptively unconstitutional, were “relatively minor” and “de minimis.”
criticized or sought to limit important remedies provided by the Voting Rights Act.
repeatedly inserted into his rulings, in cases involving claims of employment discrimination, severe criticisms of civil rights plaintiffs and the use of civil rights laws to address alleged discrimination.
demonstrated a propensity to make it harder for some people to obtain access to justice, especially less powerful litigants, such as people raising civil rights or liberties claims.
has been reversed 15 times by the 5th Circuit for ignoring or violating “well-settled principles of law” – 11 of those 15 in cases involving constitutional, civil rights, criminal procedure, or labor issues; in contrast, another Bush nominee who was confirmed to the 5th Circuit, Edith Brown Clement, was reversed only once during a slightly shorter tenure as a district court judge.
engaged in unethical conduct in an effort to reduce the sentence for a defendant convicted for burning a cross on the lawn of an interracial family and by soliciting letters of support for his confirmation from attorneys who practiced before him.
As a state senator, Charles Pickering:
co-sponsored a Mississippi Senate resolution calling on Congress to repeal Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act (providing federal oversight over jurisdictions with a history of discrimination in voting) or to apply it to all states regardless of their discrimination history, widely seen as an effort to gut the Act.
supported “open primary” legislation that was blocked by the Justice Department over concerns about discrimination against black voters.
supported a resolution calling for a constitutional convention to propose an amendment to ban abortion.
Hundreds of organizations, individuals and elected officials have announced their opposition to Pickering’s nomination:
African-American organizations and leaders in Mississippi, including every local chapter and the state chapter of the NAACP, the Legislative Black Caucus, the Magnolia Bar Association, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and the Mississippi Worker’s Center for Human Rights, and more.
National legal and civil rights organizations, including the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the Alliance for Justice, the Human Rights Campaign, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, the National Bar Association and more.
Local and national women’s rights groups, including the American Association of University Women, the National Women’s Law Center, the National Partnership for Women and Families, NARAL Pro-Choice America and the National Womens Political Caucus, and more.
Labor organizations, including the AFL-CIO, the American Federation of School Administrators, AFSME, UNITE!, the United Steelworkers of America, and more.
Get it yet keremoner? I dislike teaching grown people... |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by xfactor
Now for your lesson on Government 102. I'll just take time to give you one example...The Prez does not let any little " fillybuster" deter him... its a futile tactic. You should know that. :confused: Note Charles Pickering's appointment during a congressional recess.
WASHINGTON — President Bush used his executive authority Friday to bypass Senate Democrats and install District Judge Charles Pickering on the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108685,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...bush.pickering/
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=4083
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=12676
As a federal judge, Charles Pickering:
criticized the “one-person, one-vote” principle recognized by the Supreme Court.
suggested that large deviations from equality in drawing legislative district lines, which the Supreme Court has held presumptively unconstitutional, were “relatively minor” and “de minimis.”
criticized or sought to limit important remedies provided by the Voting Rights Act.
repeatedly inserted into his rulings, in cases involving claims of employment discrimination, severe criticisms of civil rights plaintiffs and the use of civil rights laws to address alleged discrimination.
demonstrated a propensity to make it harder for some people to obtain access to justice, especially less powerful litigants, such as people raising civil rights or liberties claims.
has been reversed 15 times by the 5th Circuit for ignoring or violating “well-settled principles of law” – 11 of those 15 in cases involving constitutional, civil rights, criminal procedure, or labor issues; in contrast, another Bush nominee who was confirmed to the 5th Circuit, Edith Brown Clement, was reversed only once during a slightly shorter tenure as a district court judge.
engaged in unethical conduct in an effort to reduce the sentence for a defendant convicted for burning a cross on the lawn of an interracial family and by soliciting letters of support for his confirmation from attorneys who practiced before him.
As a state senator, Charles Pickering:
co-sponsored a Mississippi Senate resolution calling on Congress to repeal Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act (providing federal oversight over jurisdictions with a history of discrimination in voting) or to apply it to all states regardless of their discrimination history, widely seen as an effort to gut the Act.
supported “open primary” legislation that was blocked by the Justice Department over concerns about discrimination against black voters.
supported a resolution calling for a constitutional convention to propose an amendment to ban abortion.
Hundreds of organizations, individuals and elected officials have announced their opposition to Pickering’s nomination:
African-American organizations and leaders in Mississippi, including every local chapter and the state chapter of the NAACP, the Legislative Black Caucus, the Magnolia Bar Association, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and the Mississippi Worker’s Center for Human Rights, and more.
National legal and civil rights organizations, including the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the Alliance for Justice, the Human Rights Campaign, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, the National Bar Association and more.
Local and national women’s rights groups, including the American Association of University Women, the National Women’s Law Center, the National Partnership for Women and Families, NARAL Pro-Choice America and the National Womens Political Caucus, and more.
Labor organizations, including the AFL-CIO, the American Federation of School Administrators, AFSME, UNITE!, the United Steelworkers of America, and more.
Get it yet keremoner? I dislike teaching grown people...
If it was that easy, he wouldn't have so many appellant court judgeships still open. |
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| neide |
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Originally posted by keremoner
If it was that easy, he wouldn't have so many appellant court judgeships still open.
Or, maybe, he could pick judges that actually represent the majroity of the population, instead of extreme right wing zealots, that might make things easier on the approval process. |
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| keremoner |
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Originally posted by neide
Or, maybe, he could pick judges that actually represent the majroity of the population, instead of extreme right wing zealots, that might make things easier on the approval process.
Don't make me laugh. I bet you couldn't even name any of his nominees let alone point out their 'extremism'. BTW, majority of the population is rather conservative for your info. That is why a Reagan or GWB can get elected but likes of Dukakis were swept so badly. |
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| neide |
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Originally posted by keremoner
Don't make me laugh. I bet you couldn't even name any of his nominees let alone point out their 'extremism'. BTW, majority of the population is rather conservative for your info. That is why a Reagan or GWB can get elected but likes of Dukakis were swept so badly.
Looking at the world through those funny colored glasses of yours, huh? I love statements like that "everyone is conservative". Hmm, explain Clinton's 8 years? Explain GHWB's 4 years? Explain Dubya's record low approval rating?
And calling Dubya a "conservative" is like calling Michael Jordan a "good basketball player". Yeah, its true, but it doesn't even begin to capture how much better Jordan was then almost anyone else who played the game. And Bush is bordering on Totalitarianism. |
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| xfactor |
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Originally posted by keremoner
If it was that easy, he wouldn't have so many appellant court judgeships still open.
Apparently it is!? I just gave you an example, a factual actual event. Did you read the post? :confused: |
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