| Oh_My_Baby |
Sequoia has a full third seats just like Honda Pilot and Acura MDX.
It does have 4WD, V8, and all options just like MDX have.
More importantly, it does not have tranny problem like X has.
The most recent J.D. Power and Associates's Initial Quality Study (IQS) 2004 report quotes Toyota quality is top, Honda is a close second.
On problem scores, ACURA is just barely above industry average. What a shame!
Acura has only TSX scored highest in its category whereas Toyota/Lexus has scored highest on seven different categories.
Click on this link to get JD Power Press Release 2004
The report is attached
In term of moneyworth, I think Sequoia would beat X outright. :confused:
I wish I found this forum earlier. Spending almost 40K only to know a tranny problem loom large on the horizon. :3: |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
I went to JD Power web site and ran the comparison of 2003 (MDX, Sequoia, FX, and RX300)
URL=http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/jdpa_ratings/FindJdAwards.jsp]Go here and select to compare[/URL]
It surprised me that X scores lowest. :( |
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| luvdodo |
Well Oh_My_Baby,
What matters most is your satisfaction. Bottomline, keeping the research apart...Aren't you happy with your "X" ? I'm sure you are! H?ave you faced problems?
And we are also sure you've done enough research like this one you've posted before deciding and buying an "X".
Well, different sites have different opinions and comparing a V8 with a V6 would not actually be a right thing to do. They are both of very different sizes.
It's not that a Sequoia wins over an "X" in all aspects. An "X" wins in many of the areas too. And there's always been a war between the Honda and Toyota group and we guess we all agree to this.
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| frostyra |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Spending almost 40K only to know a tranny problem loom large on the horizon. :3:
Know? C'mon -- only a very small percentage have transmission problems, so you have a better chance of NOT having a problem than actually having one. Don't worry yourself out of liking a damn good car! |
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| nightguy |
I love the Sequoia but it's a lot harder to spell than MDX so I coudn't buy it. :)
Actually, it's more about my wife wanting to drive something she feels more comfortable handling, and not having to walk down a flight of stairs to get in and out of. To be fair, they're not even in the same class with either the body or engine. One quirky thing I love in the Toyota...the center console. But I hate Toyota radios....believe it or not, that definitely had an impact on the final decision. |
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| csimo |
I'm not sure why anyone would be comparing an MDX to a Sequoia to start with. They aren't in the same class. The Sequoia is a MUCH bigger vehicle.
I put the MDX high on my list because I wanted a navigation system. Not available on the Sequoia.
My brother has a 2003 Sequoia Limited and it's a great vehicle. On a long trip I'd much rather ride in it than the MDX. It is quieter and rides smoother. The gas mileage is about the same for both. The MDX like all Acura vehicles are designed to be on the sport side luxury. The MDX handles much better than the Sequoia and is much better for everyday driving and parking. The MDX will fit in most garages, but the Sequoia may not due to it's height. The Sequoia is designed on the luxury side and very little, or no attention to the sport side of things. It handles like a mushy luxury car. They are two completely different class vehicles designed for very different buyers.
The quality statements depend on which JD Power survey you look at. The very latest released (April 29th) shows Toyota first in quality with 101 problems per 100 vehicles, and Honda with 102 problems per 100 vehicles. Not enough to discuss. These are corporate initial quality surveys which are the only applicable survey on the 2004 model year vehicles. You can read it yourself at:
http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosin.../a02-137398.htm
Then again it looks like Hyundai may pass both Toyota and Honda in highest initial quality so you may consider one of their "vehicles". If you've ever driven their cars you now know the quality surveys are not indicitave of the real quality of the underlying vehicle! |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
I went to JD Power web site and ran the comparison of 2003 (MDX, Sequoia, FX, and RX300)
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It surprised me that X scores lowest. :(
Actually, it does not score the lowest quality score in the comparison you ran. This is a common problem with how JD Power presents its information. Only the first three of the categories in your graphic are actual quality scores. The others are based on general customer ratings.
If you read it correctly, the Infiniti actually places the worst. The Sequoia and RX330 do score better than the MDX, however.
Frankly, too much is made of the JD Power Initial Quality Score. It's based on the first 90 days of ownership. More informative is the mid-term quality scores which are based on a few years of ownership.
Even then, I've always felt that Consumer Reports' ratings are more accurate than JD Power. JD Power is relatively more biased than CR. They are willing to repackage their statistics in any way for a buck. That's why you see brands with low quality scores getting JD Power this or JD Power that.
For what it's worth, Consumer Reports actually gives the MDX a significantly higher reliability score than the Sequoia. The MDX is "well above average" (the solid red dot) while the Sequoia is just "above average" (the half red dot). That said, the latest model years has the Sequoia improving rapidlly so it'll probably be as good as the MDX if not better.
Problems with the Sequoia were pretty well documented in Toyota forums. It wasn't totally clean, especially for a Toyota.
The Sequoia is a good vehicle if you want a big, heavy, tough full-sized SUV. But it's a way different vehicle than the MDX. |
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| kflint |
I agree with the comment that it comes down to individual needs and satisfaction.
When I was purchasing my current vehicle, I narrowed my choices to the Sequoia and the MDX. I chose the MDX in part because I liked its size. It fits my lifestyle (and my garage) better. I had driven Chevy Tahoes for a number of years (provided by a previous employer), and wanted something smaller. Also, I liked the flexibility of the MDX's third row. I had grown tired of and frustrated with the tumbling third row seats in the Tahoe (always in the way when I needed space, and never there when I needed seats), and didn't like the similar design in the Sequoia.
Both are very good vehicles. It comes down to you likes and needs.
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| TYP |
....
Just look at how GM, and Buick win awards too makes me think twice about how they rate it...
For example, I'd never like the styling of the RX300 or RX330, it's jut too girlish for me, beside the fact that it's just a taller camery, the 4wd is optional.. it just tells people that it's not a SUV... so how did it win the award for best SUV?..
The thing is, for Acura, they step out and recall all the trannys (either it's bad or good they'll fix it) but with Toyota/lexus they hide and try to cheat with it. Just look at Camary and how they cheated to get a 3 star score on the driver side impact test.
Also how they lie about how fast their car is.
My X is the first Acura I own, so far it's better then the Nissan Maxima/Altima/Centra, Saab 9'3, MBenz ML 430, Lexus RX300,VW Passat, Chvy Blazer sport, Mecury La Saber, and many more cars that I've drove.
If we find anymore problem then those Acura have admit, the we should make them fix it! However, so far they are doing fine, and I am very happy with my X. Everyone of my friend who ride in it, loves it.
So.. who cares about JD power (if you have not smell the $$ behind it) I trust CR more just cause they are more careful of finding out the problem.
Enjoy your 40k car, after all, if you try to find the same grade of car, you wil end up paying much much more!
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| Oh_My_Baby |
Thanks to all of your comments thus far.
Regarding to JD Power reports, it is widely recognized in the industry. They are closely monitored by the manufacturers and a lot of them use the reports in their commercials or as a right to brag of their products.
One dear friend of mine is a Consumer Report freak. Everything he buys must be the CS recommend list.
Recently he bought Toyota Sequoia that's why I went in to do a research to find out why he picked Sequoia over MDX.
If possible, please show me where the Toyota Forum is so that I can learn about their product too.
By the way, one of my brothers in law is considering to get a SUV. He is leaning more to MDX than RX330 saying RX330 is too girlish just like other say. Besides third row sold him out. He also states that the Lexus RX330's rear roof is too stoop that means losing a lot of cargo space. He tried RX300 last year and see that the transmission kind of hesitating at low shift. Plus the MDX would have high resale value. He likes X's cool sporty rear look.
I'm trying to get him the same deal like my X's. |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
I wish I found this forum earlier.
I did find this forum earlier and I am on my second MDX. IMNSHO the Sequoia is NO match for the MDX - I still am very happy :cool: :1:
FYI: A simple google search prior to spending $40K would have easily found this website - I found it December 2000 :rolleyes:
In fact I first met wmquan on the Edmund's forum where we debated the MDX the Highlander and the Sequoia in early 2001 prior to my officially joining this org. |
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| The X-men |
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| frostyra |
quote:
Originally posted by TYP
For example, I'd never like the styling of the RX300 or RX330, it's jut too girlish for me, beside the fact that it's just a taller camery
I agree that the RXs are taller Camrys -- BUT, the MDX is basically a taller, wider Accord. The MDX is based on the Odyssey, and the Odyssey is based on the Accord. The MDX is within a fraction of an inch of the Accord ('99 at least) in both length and wheelbase. |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
I did find this forum earlier and I am on my second MDX. IMNSHO the Sequoia is NO match for the MDX - I still am very happy :cool: :1:
FYI: A simple google search prior to spending $40K would have easily found this website - I found it December 2000 :rolleyes:
In fact I first met wmquan on the Edmund's forum where we debated the MDX the Highlander and the Sequoia in early 2001 prior to my officially joining this org.
Could you give me a link? I doubt that Edmund still keep 4 yr old stuff. Their server can only gobble so much. |
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| TYP |
quote:
Originally posted by frostyra
I agree that the RXs are taller Camrys -- BUT, the MDX is basically a taller, wider Accord. The MDX is based on the Odyssey, and the Odyssey is based on the Accord. The MDX is within a fraction of an inch of the Accord ('99 at least) in both length and wheelbase.
Ah, what I mean is that RX300 has less room then Camary (cargo space too), the X come standard with 4wd, and is able to go off road in most cases that I tried.
The X is much bigger then accord, more functional, and enough height clearence for me to do the off roading I like ^___^
Btw I like Oddy too, just that at the time Oddy's seats are not fold-into-ground like the X and not as luxry/mutifutional as X.. so I got X not Oddy.
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| eurohazard |
Very interesting discussions here. I understand the MDX and Sequoia are totally different vehicles.
My wife and I also narrowed our SUV search to the Sequoia and MDX. The "American" SUVs never impressed us. We have driven and rode in Tahoes, Expeditions, Explorers, and Durangos, Escapes.
The X won out mostly because (for our family anyways):
-the 3rd row, though useful, will rarely be used
-better gas mileage
-rarely tow, and if I do it will be a light boat or waverunner
-better warranty
-cheaper, when similarly equipped
-I like the unibody "car-like" construction
-sharper handling/steering
-easier to park
Yes the Toyota is quieter, but I don't really like isolation much! I still love them both though, and even recommended the Toyota to a friend...they bought a 4WD SR-5. |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
I'm a die-hard Toyota fan. My family and In laws have owned four Camrys, two Corollas, two Solaras, one Supra and one Celica. Two of them break ranks to buy Honda Accord and keep complaining about the jerky transmission at low grade and slow cool/warm air throughput. (Throughput: The rate of output).
However, MDX won me with an useful and almost complete package at lowest offer price.
(sun roof, 4WD (auto engaged), VSA, handing, 3rd row, leather, cargo room, power).
However, I'm disappointed to learn from this forum about the tranny problem. Just hope that are just a few bad luck cases not the systematic design flaw. Still driving worry though.
No doubt that Toyota seat comfort and noise isolation are excellent. The maintenance is easier too. |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
However, I'm disappointed to learn from this forum about the tranny problem. Just hope that are just a few bad luck cases not the systematic design flaw. Still driving worry though.
No, it's probably a design flaw.
But you're going to worry yourself out of enjoying your vehicle.
You're forgetting that the 2003 MDX received a totally redesigned transmission. The 2004 has this new transmission as well. Only the 2001 and 2002 MDX's (and all Pilots to date) have the transmission that is similar to the problematic ones in the (TL/CL/Accord V-6's/Odysseys.
The 2003 transmission redesign is significantly different. Only time will tell if they are better / much better than the ones they replaced. But as a 2001 owner, I'd much rather have your transmission than the one I have.
So your concern about the transmission really has no logical basis. That's like saying you'd worry about the RX330 or current Camry V6 because the previous RX300's and Camry's V6 engine had a well-documented sludge problem. That problem eventually forced Toyota/Lexus to extend the engine warranty. |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
wmquan,
Do you mean 2004 Honda Pilot does not have the new transmission that MDX 2003 and 2004 do?
Hah, I feel much better now. I almost buy the Pilot since it is 4-6K cheaper.
But after hearing a lot of people say Pilot looks boxy and ordinary. A few grand more earns better upscale look, materials, and power as well as being upgraded to luxury level.
Thanks for your info.
Sometimes it doesn't hurt to expect for the worst and hope for the best. |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Do you mean 2004 Honda Pilot does not have the new transmission that MDX 2003 and 2004 do?
The 2003/2004 MDX transmission is not in the 2004 Pilot. The Pilot still has the transmission from the 2001/2002 MDX. |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
... In fact I first met wmquan on the Edmund's forum where we debated the MDX the Highlander and the Sequoia in early 2001 prior to my officially joining this org.
Around that time, I do remember one poster who bought a Sequoia while waiting for their MDX to come in. He promptly put his spot on the MDX wait list up for sale on eBay!
Searching makes it easy to find:
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...s=&threadid=136
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...s=&threadid=372
I think some months later he did post about a problem about the Sequoia, but I forget the details. He used a different handle on Edmunds. |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
Wow,
TS outweights MDX outright if class difference is taken out of context. |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Wow,
TS outweights MDX outright if class difference is taken out of context.
Yeah, but you can't take the class difference out of context. I'm sure some people cross-shop the MDX and Sequoia. But for quite a number of folks, including some who have posted in this thread, we don't want a full-sized SUV. The MDX is big enough for us.
The Sequoia is a great full-sized SUV, but for such buyers, it's a huge monster. Sure, it's got more interior and cargo room. But of course it should -- it's 16" longer than the MDX, an inch wider, and 5" taller. That monster would have trouble fitting into our garage. It's about 800 lbs heavier, which you feel when you drive the beast.
Frankly, for my family, the MDX is more than big enough and borders on being too large. So a humongous Sequoia would be out of the question.
http://autos.msn.com/research/compa...t98438&v=t97932 |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Could you give me a link? I doubt that Edmund still keep 4 yr old stuff. Their server can only gobble so much.
All the old forums are still there and fairly easy to find.
Go to Edminds.com and click on the Forums tab.
In Browse By Message Board, click on SUVs (or whatever category you want).
On the SUVs Discussion page click on Display All SUVs Discussions.
Finally Click on SUVs-Archived Discussions
Link: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/We...Twnh.0@.ee9a828 |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
Wow, I am amazed by your knowledgeable and thorough research. Thank you for your links.
I guess you're right. It all depends on the need. It seems though that Toyota/Lexus is targeting to pamper drivers and Honda/Acura is gearing toward drivers who like to feel the road. |
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| wmquan |
The funny (?) thing is that the "I Don't Like SUV's, Why Do You" discussion is still going on strong!
When the MDX was first introduced, the main competition in the forums were the ML320 and RX300 (not the Sequoia). Some smaller competition also coming from the X5 and the QX4. The Highlander wasn't introduced until several months later in a mid-year debut. It was an easy choice for most MDX buyers back then (the ML320 was my second choice, but I couldn't get past the harsher ride and quality issues). |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by wmquan
The funny (?) thing is that the "I Don't Like SUV's, Why Do You" discussion is still going on strong!
Yep I just posted in it :D I said "I have not posted since April '04 ... and this thread is still active!" Amazing :eek:
I am surprised my account was still active in the Town Hall - just made a few posts; my first since April '04. After we bought the '01 in March of '01 I stopped frequenting the Edmunds board and spent all my time here. :1: |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Wow, I am amazed by your knowledgeable and thorough research. Thank you for your links.
I just came back from the Edmunds Town Hall where I logged in and made a few posts (first since April '01).
They have really streamlined the forums with nothing lost. There is no need to go to the Archived Posts (that I can tell); most apparently have been merged into one active thread. Fow example you will find Acura MDX I, Acura MDX II, ... Acura MDX V, ... Acura MDX VII, etc. Threads in the Archived section; wheras in the Current SUVs Forum there is an Acura MDX thread that has all the old threads merged into one. |
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| ACURA58 |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
[B] and slow cool/warm air throughput. (Throughput: The rate of output).
Oh_My_Baby,
What did you mean by this? Confused. I understood the transmission comment.............
Are you referring to the A/C unit?
Thanks
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| Oh_My_Baby |
quote:
Originally posted by ACURA58
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
[B] and slow cool/warm air throughput. (Throughput: The rate of output).
Oh_My_Baby,
What did you mean by this? Confused. I understood the transmission comment.............
Are you referring to the A/C unit?
Thanks
:confused:
Yep, the A/C is one of the weak features that Honda/Acura own. The blow rate is low and it takes much longer to get warm/cool then its counterpart Toyota/Lexus vehicles. |
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| luvdodo |
OH_MY_BABY, OH_MY_BABY, OH_MY_BABY,
You've created fire on this thread by showering your hate on the MDX and love on the TS.
You love that TS, don't ya ??
I think it's time you own a TS Bro' !
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| ACURA58 |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Yep, the A/C is one of the weak features that Honda/Acura own. The blow rate is low and it takes much longer to get warm/cool then its counterpart Toyota/Lexus vehicles.
Funny........that's the first I've ever heard about the 'blow-rate'. I find the A/C and heater exceptionally good. I own a Lexus LS430 and the A/C on the MDX cools MUCH faster. We take the MDX to Vegas regularly because of the outstanding A/C.
If you are experiencing a low 'blow-rate', I would suggest a visit to your local Acura Dealership immediately! Again, that's the first I've heard of that! :2: |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Yep, the A/C is one of the weak features that Honda/Acura own. The blow rate is low and it takes much longer to get warm/cool then its counterpart Toyota/Lexus vehicles.
Not sure what you mean by blow rate but in the three years I've been on this site I do not recall anyone EVER complaining about the MDX's ability to cool down the vehicle; in fact most people rave about the MDX's A/C.
If you have a problem with the MDX A/C unit you are indeed in the silent minority!! |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
quote:
Originally posted by luvdodo
OH_MY_BABY, OH_MY_BABY, OH_MY_BABY,
You've created fire on this thread by showering your hate on the MDX and love on the TS.
:yesyes:
No, I love my baby that is why I'm trying to perfect it. If you watch sports, you don't see great coaches workship their great players.
Bring on the problems even a minor ones so that Acura know and make the X a great one to own. |
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| msu79gt82 |
... the MDX A/C unit is not a problem. And kindly discuss these REAL MDX problems in the Problems Forum.
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Bring on the problems even a minor ones so that Acura know and make the X a great one to own.
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| ACURA58 |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
... the MDX A/C unit is not a problem. And kindly discuss these REAL MDX problems in the Problems Forum.
I second that!:D |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
Sure, will do.
A/C is not problem but a weakness compared to others. As a matter of fact, some site cited Con of MDX is weak ventilation. |
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| ACURA58 |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Sure, will do.
A/C is not problem but a weakness compared to others. As a matter of fact, some site cited Con of MDX is weak ventilation.
You're gabbing at straws now...........
Put up, or shut up! Show us that 'site' regarding 'weak' ventilation. Your blowing smoke (IMO).............. |
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| The X-men |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Sure, will do.
A/C is not problem but a weakness compared to others. As a matter of fact, some site cited Con of MDX is weak ventilation.
The MDX has one of the highest BTU AC unit for a vehicle in its class. In fact I hardly ever put the AC unit on high, never needed that much air flow. The stories about weak AC units are from Hondas of a earlier era. |
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| TYP |
Yup
The only cars I have not drove that was made from Acura are the RL and the NSX.
I drove 02'MDX(mine), 03RSX, 02TL, 04TL, and 03 TSX, all of them have fine AC flow for me, and I think stuck in L.A. traffic is one of the hottest place in U.S. So we should konw if the AC is good or bad.
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| Oh_My_Baby |
quote:
Originally posted by ACURA58
You're gabbing at straws now...........
Put up, or shut up! Show us that 'site' regarding 'weak' ventilation. Your blowing smoke (IMO)..............
The site does not exactly quote "weak ventilation" but it says negative on climate control . I think I should rephrase it. |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
The site does not exactly quote "weak ventilation" but it says negative on climate control . I think I should rephrase it.
Er, that site complains about the placement of the climate control buttons on the non-Nav MDX. It has nothing to do with the output of the ventilation. :rolleyes:
You seem quite determined to convince yourself that you bought a bad vehicle in the MDX. If you want, we can provide you with more information about how awful your MDX is, so you'll be trading it in for the Toyota Sequoia you really want. Imagine if your friends and family knew all of this, and how they'd make fun of you for buying a dressed-up Honda instead of a Toyota.
- The Sequoia has a longer powertrain warranty than your MDX.
- Your MDX has a clumsy gated shifter that many reviewers have complained about.
- Your MDX doesn't get the top government crash test scores: http://www.nhtsa.gov/NCAP/Cars/2638.html The Sequoia does better! So does the Pilot!
- Your MDX has the infamous sloshing gas tank, inherited from the Odyssey.
- Have you heard that awful click-clack of your MDX? Get someone to operate the vehicle while you stand outside to listen. Tell them to put the vehicle from drive to reverse, and listen for that awful noise.
It's not too late. The MDX will still get a good trade-in value since not enough people know about the bad transmissions! :D |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
Wow,
My disappointment is growing. The baby is not going to make oh and ah anymore.
My wife decided that our next car is Toyota Solara. I want Toy Prius.
This X baby is drinking too much gas. |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Wow,
My disappointment is growing. The baby is not going to make oh and ah anymore.
My wife decided that our next car is Toyota Solara. I want Toy Prius.
This X baby is drinking too much gas.
Glad you decided on the Prius; if you think the MDX drinks gas you'll "love" the Sequoia (especially if you own gas station stock).
By the way whatever vehicle you trade your MDX for, get some fancy accessories stuff - barebone sucks :rolleyes: |
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| luvdodo |
Can somone quickly point our baby to the classifieds section, please ?
That we can ensure he has his baby adopted soon.
Hee!
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| Oh_My_Baby |
quote:
Originally posted by luvdodo
Can somone quickly point our baby to the classifieds section, please ?
That we can ensure he has his baby adopted soon.
Hee!
:15: :21: :19: :18: :20: :22:
Yep, I wish I could find someone who would love the X to death that I can transfer it for a decent profit . :yesyes:
I'm thinking of putting this baby in the garage and drive the electric scooter to work for now. :27: |
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| TYP |
How about live on a farm, ride bikes, and eat grass?
It will sure cut down lots of energy waste..
The next step would be killing all humans so nothing goes to waste?
LOL
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| luvdodo |
Okay now!
I just can't stop laughing !! :2:
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| Talk about bad parenthood, lol. |
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| luvdodo |
Finally, how about moving this thread into MSU's "Joke of the Day" thread ?
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| Oh_My_Baby |
I figure with some added stuff, my baby could be up for adoption. Hopefully, with the profit from selling my X, I can get 2005 Sequoia hybrid which could run with by-product of ripened cow manure, i.e, mixture of a lot of xxxOL .
Don't you think so? |
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| TYP |
Why stop using something by use half of it?
Trust your legs! They walk!
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| luvdodo |
It would be wiser to get the cow from the cowshed rather than getting the manure for your super Hybrid.
You'd get free milk too! And most important Jersey cows in the US are very famous worldwide.
And if you have a farm, you save costs on the tractor as you can use the cow to plough your fields.
But then don't for get to check the mileage on that cow too :)
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| Oh_My_Baby |
| Wait and see, if the gas costs 5 dollar per gallon, the true hybrid is a cow wagon. I already had the design in place just in case. Zero emission, high protein by product. |
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| TYP |
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Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
Wait and see, if the gas costs 5 dollar per gallon, the true hybrid is a cow wagon. I already had the design in place just in case. Zero emission, high protein by product.
LOL! You are the man! LOL.. You really makes me laugh!
You!.. You good you!!
LOL
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| Oh_My_Baby |
That's what the forum for. Educating while having fun. Eh?
I'll post the model when the gas hits that price. Guarantee beat both Toyota and Honda hybrid. Well, I don't want to go way off the topic before "Admin Du Jour" shut the door.:4: |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
I guess we had enough of the comparison. It all comes down to individual needs and preferences. Both are good and would not make the owners !@$#$ in their good night's dream. However both have a common problem which is pretty much the same for all SUVs. They are big time gas gurglers which would refuse to spit out good by product. Hybrid is on the way to address that issue. Less fuel consumption and more environment friendly (by product: water vapor). Somehow I found a great hybrid (thanks to all great minds which contribute to this thread, Luvoodoo, TNT, etc..), which have a perfect zero emission, wonderful byproducts which can help world hunger (milk) and something to help eliminate the need of burning fuel (the dung can be used as the great energy alternative solution, or good construction materials - replacing expensive dry walls).
As the gas price is fast approaching 5-6 bucks a gallon, I think I can do the X lover a favor by start taking order for this great hybrid concept before the rest of the world knows.
Please contact 1-800-COWAGON for more details. |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
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Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
As the gas price is fast approaching 5-6 bucks a gallon, I think I can do the X lover a favor by start taking order for this great hybrid concept before the rest of the world knows.
Please contact 1-800-COWAGON for more details.
Try to attach the image using browse button but it didn't work - So be patient .... :rolleyes: |
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| The X-men |
Hybrid is not zero emission and the by product are not water and vapor. You are thinking of Hydrogen fuel engines.
Hybrid are very fuel efficient, but the battery pack only last 5 to 7 years. At a cost of 2 to 3 thousand dollars to replace, you would need to save 2 to 3 thousand dollars in gas over that time period to justify the hybrid, not to mention the added maintenance and the reduce performance. Right now the numbers just don't add up with gas at $2 a gallon. As gas price continues to rise, at some point it will be justifiable and that time is coming real real soon. |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
As the crude oil barrel fast forward passes 40 bucks/barrel, I think it's good idea to start taking order of this zero fuel hybrid which can solve both Sequoia and MDX's common problem. The sooner order is placed, the better price is guaranteed.
Well, still have problem with posting the image. I assumed the admin has taken care of it. Until then, please be patient. |
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| Fabvsix |
| I don't know about New Jersey's cow Cr$p, but California has Happy cows and Happy cow Sh$t for your Happy future Hybread TS ! ;) ;) ;) :eek: :2: |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
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Originally posted by Fabvsix
I don't know about New Jersey's cow Cr$p, but California has Happy cows and Happy cow Sh$t for your Happy future Hybread TS ! ;) ;) ;) :eek: :2:
Don't beg for my new hybrid when the time has come. |
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| Fabvsix |
| That's NO happy cow ! Happy cows live in California !:2: |
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| TYP |
| That one have no Air bag, ABS, nor VSA! |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
| At least guarantee no bomb inside |
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| TYP |
Yeah,
There's also no "road rage" with it.. just blame it on the mad cow.
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| Oh_My_Baby |
You are so bright, TYP!
Could be marketing director for my new COWAGON company.:7: |
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| Oh_My_Baby |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oh_My_Baby
The gas price is sticking up. Pretty soon will reach $3.00/gal.
I'm still taking order for the great hybrid. |
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| Pycckuu |
| You still have a warranty on your trainy. Stop worring about it. American Honda Motors will repair it for free. |
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