| a061444 |
Finally achieved 5000 miles and I decided to change my the original oil to Mobil 1 (0-20W) and I also changed the oil filter to an oversized one (Wix 51344).
I'm happy to report that the oil and filter work beautifully, as the car is very quiet and smooth.
Let me know if you have any questions. |
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| teamTMS |
BTW ... that oversized filter was the same size as the older Honda filters. The newer one is smaller because they use the same one in the RSX where space is much tighter.
Also note ... Fram makes Honda's filter (at least that was what I've been told over the last 11 years). |
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| TGO |
TeamTMS or a061444,
After searching around on the net I noticed that the filter call out (on the Purolator website anyway) called for a different filter PN on 2001/2 MDX's. Is that filter larger than the one for the 2003/4 and do you know if it would fit a 2003/4? I'm curious as I just received a new filter (ordered along with a bunch of other stuff). I was surprised to see how small it was - not that it means anything.
I am a little nervous going to the filter size you used above since it's application is for late 80s Honda's (don't know what kind of issues it would raise on a warranty item, I am sure all kinds). Of course using a 2001/2 filter on a 2003/4 probably would cause hate and discontent as well. Thanks. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by teamTMS
BTW ... that oversized filter was the same size as the older Honda filters. The newer one is smaller because they use the same one in the RSX where space is much tighter.
Also note ... Fram makes Honda's filter (at least that was what I've been told over the last 11 years).
They have had more than one supplier of filters. A common one was called Filtech. Now, just about any Honda filter you see says Fram. |
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| frostyra |
| Just out of curiosity, did you replace the crush washer on the drain plug? Honda insists on this. |
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| Pauls MDX |
I would stick with the Acura or Fram filters, I get nervious with the other aftermarket brands. I noticed your using 0w-20, why not 5w-20 or 5w-30??? Isn't the 0w-20 a little to thin???
PS - Keep in mind oil filter are rated in number of hours of operating time, that why I believe the Acura and Fram to be the best. Especially if your using the Synthetic oil which can go for 20,000 miles be sure to replace the filter more often. I stick with the cheaper oil because I change my oil every 3000 miles and the Synthetic stuff is much to expensive for my intervals. Check the number of hours rating for your oil filter. |
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| frostyra |
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Originally posted by Pauls MDX
Isn't the 0w-20 a little to thin???
You'll never notice the "0" in the 0W-20 until it's extremely cold -- and then the engine will crank a bit faster and start easier. The "20" is for protection with a warm-to-hot engine, which is most of the time. |
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| catzx6 |
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Originally posted by Pauls MDX
...your using the Synthetic oil which can go for 20,000 miles be sure to replace the filter more often...
How do you change the filter without changing the oil? Do you drain it, and then refill with the stuff you just took out?
Inquiring minds want to know! :confused: |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by catzx6
How do you change the filter without changing the oil? Do you drain it, and then refill with the stuff you just took out?
Inquiring minds want to know! :confused:
Egg-zactly! You will need to make up about 1/3 to 1/2 qt depending the filter size. |
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| catzx6 |
| Interesting...I just might have to try that. I would need a new drain pan, though. Mine's pretty cruddy. :trustme: |
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| Lrpba300 |
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Originally posted by catzx6
How do you change the filter without changing the oil? Do you drain it, and then refill with the stuff you just took out?
Inquiring minds want to know! :confused:
Quote by DaleB:
Egg-zactly! You will need to make up about 1/3 to 1/2 qt depending the filter size
Question DaleB, why do you Drain the oil to refill it & top off w/ amount of new filter w/oil?? Why don't you just take off the filter, replace w/ a new one & then top off w/ amount of new filter? Do you do something with the oil when it's out of the engine?? Otherwise it's seems wasted? What am I missing here?? An inquiring mind wants to know!:4: |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by Lrpba300
Quote by DaleB:
Egg-zactly! You will need to make up about 1/3 to 1/2 qt depending the filter size
Question DaleB, why do you Drain the oil to refill it & top off w/ amount of new filter w/oil?? Why don't you just take off the filter, replace w/ a new one & then top off w/ amount of new filter? Do you do something with the oil when it's out of the engine?? Otherwise it's seems wasted? What am I missing here?? An inquiring mind wants to know!:4:
What's the confusion? I change both my oil and filter.
On cars where owners use extended drain intervals, but still want to change the filter more often, then that's what they do.
When they do that, they have to add up to about 1/2 qt of oil that was lost when removing the filter.
Sorry for any confusion, I was only talking about extended oil drain intervals where the filters are changed more frequently. |
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| tonsaphun |
| I ordered some filter online way back in December and was suprised that it was larger than the factory one. So, I got nervous and went to Honda and bought the same one. Now you are telling me that it is okay to use the oversized filters? Would it this cause any leaks? Please keep me updated. Thanks. |
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| DannyBoy |
| Any particular brand for oil and oil filter that I should use? |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by teamTMS
BTW ... that oversized filter was the same size as the older Honda filters. The newer one is smaller because they use the same one in the RSX where space is much tighter.
Also note ... Fram makes Honda's filter (at least that was what I've been told over the last 11 years).
If you do some searches, you will find other suppliers including one called Filtech produced Honda filters. In fact the first 6 I ordered from Tim in '02 were all Filtech. Now they all appear to be Fram. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by DannyBoy
Any particular brand for oil and oil filter that I should use?
Pull up a chair, free about 3 or 4 hours and do searches on oil & filters. You will probably still have the same question when you are finished. :4: |
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| DannyBoy |
Per Acura manual, oil change is recommended with a longer interval compare to what I normally hear from people (3,500 or 3 months which ever come first).
Do I get better miles and better performance to change the oil often? What's the prefer interval for MDX?
What type of oil that I should use (0 - 20W, 5 - 30W, 10 - 30W), I live in the Northwest region if that matter?
Will Syn. oil will be better for the MDX or the regular oil is okay as well?
Will changing oil by myself will void any kind of warranty at all?
I know that I have some of very basic questions, please kindly help me as I am new to DIY oil change...
Thanks, |
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| DannyBoy |
As I get closer to my first oil change at 5K miles, I just checked out the Mobil 1 Syn oil and noticed that on the 0W-20 bottle they specific stated that "Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 0W20 is engineered specifically for Ford, Honda and any other vehicle where a 0W-20 or 5W-20 engine oil is recommended. "
So it seems to me that Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 0W20 is the correct choice for people who want to go with Syn oil. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by DannyBoy
As I get closer to my first oil change at 5K miles, I just checked out the Mobil 1 Syn oil and noticed that on the 0W-20 bottle they specific stated that "Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 0W20 is engineered specifically for Ford, Honda and any other vehicle where a 0W-20 or 5W-20 engine oil is recommended. "
So it seems to me that Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 0W20 is the correct choice for people who want to go with Syn oil.
I would go by my owner's manual first. My oil cap say 5 30 and that's the M1 I use.
I am very conservative when it comes to oil company recommendations. They often make generalizations about makes and models, without specifying the manufacturer's written specifications. Amsoil is one of the few exceptions. The same applies to ATF etc. |
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| DannyBoy |
| Both manual and oil cap of my 2004 MDX say 5W-20. So I guess they recommend different oil between 2002 and 2004 then. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by DannyBoy
Both manual and oil cap of my 2004 MDX say 5W-20. So I guess they recommend different oil between 2002 and 2004 then.
Well, if the manual does not recommend 5 30 at all, then stick to what it does recommend, would be my advice. |
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| DannyBoy |
I just completed oil change for my MDX for the first time. The total amount of oil is only 4.5 qts according to the manual is this sound right. I used to drive an accord and I used 4 qts for the oil for 4 cylinders engine. MDX is six cylinders and require only 1/2 qt more. I just need some assurance on this as I know very little about car.
Thanks, |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by DannyBoy
I just completed oil change for my MDX for the first time. The total amount of oil is only 4.5 qts according to the manual is this sound right. I used to drive an accord and I used 4 qts for the oil for 4 cylinders engine. MDX is six cylinders and require only 1/2 qt more. I just need some assurance on this as I know very little about car.
Thanks,
It's easy to generalize oil capacity with how many cylinders. Most V8's have a 5 qt. capacity. I had 2 Toyota 4 cyl. and both had a capacity of 4.5 qts.
Just make sure it is near the full mark when the engine is warm.
You are close though, just under 5 qts. with and oil and filter (factory filter) change has been my experience with the MDX. |
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| jayadi |
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Originally posted by frostyra
Just out of curiosity, did you replace the crush washer on the drain plug? Honda insists on this.
Just to tell you. I used to have an Accord for 13 years and only changed the crush washer maybe only once. I never had any oil leaks at all. The idea is that you use a soft washer (eg. aluminium or copper) so that it can be squished to take up the space between the bolt and the sump to prevent leaks. Once this ring is flat after several squishes, then the ring needs to be replaced. But as long as the sump seat and the bolt surfaces are not damaged, you shouldn't get any oil leaks, as oil is quite viscous anyway (unlike radiator fluid!) |
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