| Lrpba300 |
| Oh, I might get to watch it then! :4: |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by Lrpba300
To answer your question, with a question MS, would Chefs, Quefs, or Chumps be better than Chokers?? :2:
Defending AFC West Champs works fine for me. |
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| Maik |
And the beat goes on!
21 in a row! |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
And the beat goes on!
21 in a row!
I am looking for 34 in a row ! Next superbowl.
Is it possible? Anything is with this team. There are many who'd say that won't happen but I take issue (unless there are major injury problems). This team plays only up to their opponents strength level. The philosophy is to win in a non-flashy way and never show up your opponent in defeating them. That keeps the players down to earth and disciplined. Pats are like a well oiled machinery. They may not always look impressive but they know what to do to win. |
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| mullysalt |
Do your feet even touch the ground these days?
Maik how was St. Louis?
My ears have finally quit ringing from the racous crowd @ Arrowhead on Sunday. What a beautiful day it was 75 degress, plenty of sun, 80,000 screaming Chief fans and one good ole Kansas City but whoppin'.
Watch out for Big Ben! |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Do your feet even touch the ground these days?
Maik how was St. Louis?
My ears have finally quit ringing from the racous crowd @ Arrowhead on Sunday. What a beautiful day it was 75 degress, plenty of sun, 80,000 screaming Chief fans and one good ole Kansas City but whoppin'.
Watch out for Big Ben!
Mully, I'm in St Louis right now. Will be leaving my hotel room in a few minutes to see if we can grab a couple of tix for what I hope will be the clincher!
As for the Pats. After so many loosing seasons, I am hrd pressed to even remember how bad it was! Will this team ever loose? A couple of tough games upcoming Pitt and the Rams, both on the road. I think the Rams pose a tougher apponent, but one at a time!
Go Sox! Back tommorrow. |
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| Maik |
New streak starts next week.
It was a great run. |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Watch out for Big Ben!
News Flash! Pats look almost human in losing to the Steelers. The margin between the Pats and the rest of the league isn't that much when you take away Corey Dillon and Ty Law.
Isn't it ironic that the same week the Sox put the last shovel of dirt on the "curse" the Pats record breaking winning streak ends.:8: |
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| keremoner |
| Injuries aside, Pats simply made too many mistakes. However, none of that takes away from the fact that Pittsburgh has a great team. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
Injuries aside, Pats simply made too many mistakes. However, none of that takes away from the fact that Pittsburgh has a great team.
I agree with first part, but I am not convinced about the Steelers.
Pats injuries are really mounting. They have run out of DB's and second stringer O lineman playing out of position (Neil) due to injuries.
With a makeshift D backfield, Rams will likely be tough next week on turf, in the dome.
Hey Mully, Chiefs looking good. Counted out a couple of weeks ago, they are getting back in the thick of things real quick.
Are the Chargers for real?? |
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| nightguy |
| After picking the Pats to win all season, I picked the Steelers to win with a lot of points riding on it when I filled out my wife's pool sheet. The person at work that helps her switched it to NE. :1pat: |
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| Maik |
Hats off to the Steelers, a great two week run.
Pats played their best game ofthe season yesterday, and a new streak is at 1 in a row. Martz continues to amaze me that he is still the head coach. Clearly outcoached...again.
Right now, looks to me that the Pats and Steelers are the best two teams in the NFL. Maybe they will meet again this winter. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Hats off to the Steelers, a great two week run.
Pats played their best game ofthe season yesterday, and a new streak is at 1 in a row. Martz continues to amaze me that he is still the head coach. Clearly outcoached...again.
Right now, looks to me that the Pats and Steelers are the best two teams in the NFL. Maybe they will meet again this winter.
They'll be meeting at the AFC championship game with the Pats winning that contest if their injury problems are resolved. I full expect the Pats to go on and beat the Eagles at the Superbowl for their third ring in four years. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
They'll be meeting at the AFC championship game with the Pats winning that contest if their injury problems are resolved.
Hopefully, that game will be in Foxboro. |
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| keremoner |
| Injuries aside, Pats are virtually an unstoppable force. What a team. There were dominating teams due to pure talent in the past, ala 49ers, but no team seemed so invincible since this team does it with so much more than talent. So it is tougher for them to break down one day like the Bears of 85 did. |
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| Maik |
Pats Offense looked very good against a solid Buffalo Defence. Dillon is re establishing himself as a premier NFL running back. He is a real pleasure to watch. He is equally impressive in the way he picks up the blitz.
As for the Bills...it was a sad day for Drew. I believe that we may have seen him for the last time. Simply too many sacks over the years. Looks like Losman will get his chance. During his time in New England, Drew provided lots of great memories. It was a shame he had to endure last nite. |
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| Maik |
Mully,
Headin up to Arrowhead for Monday's game?
Should be a good one. Chiefs are very tough at home. Could be a high scoring game. Pats offense is finally getting it together. |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Mully,
Headin up to Arrowhead for Monday's game?
Should be a good one. Chiefs are very tough at home. Could be a high scoring game. Pats offense is finally getting it together.
I just mailed off my tixs for the game. I've been planning all along to go to the SD game on 11/28. It hurt me to mail away tixs for MNF but it just didn't fit in the schedule. :( |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
I just mailed off my tixs for the game. I've been planning all along to go to the SD game on 11/28. It hurt me to mail away tixs for MNF but it just didn't fit in the schedule. :(
Night games are tough. I'm still feelin the effects of Sunday night's game. Got home at 12:15...in the office 8AM Monday. |
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| Maik |
Useless stat of the day...
LL,
New York Gints are 5-6.
They are 0-6 against teams with animal names, and 5-0 against teams with non animal names. |
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| Lacostacal |
Are the Chargers for real?? [/B][/QUOTE]
The Chargers are for real! Nice to see them finally beat KC in KC. Bring on Denver! |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by Lacostacal
Are the Chargers for real??
The Chargers are for real! Nice to see them finally beat KC in KC. Bring on Denver! [/B][/QUOTE]
How do you define real?
They have certainly exceeded expectations.
While I would admit, they are the "feel good" story of this NFL season, and may make the playoffs, I would suspect that they will be in the "one and done club". |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Useless stat of the day...
LL,
New York Gints are 5-6.
They are 0-6 against teams with animal names, and 5-0 against teams with non animal names.
Then we're going to be 8-8. |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by Lacostacal
Are the Chargers for real??
The Chargers are for real! Nice to see them finally beat KC in KC. Bring on Denver! [/B][/QUOTE]
They're for real at least in the AFC West. They can give NE, Indy or PITT some problems, though I think they are still the fourth best team in the AFC. |
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| laborlitigator |
Watch out but if the Panthers beat St. Louis this week, they've got a great chance of ending 8-8 and possibly the playoffs.
In the NFC, they are the only team that can take out the Eagles (if possible). |
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| Maik |
Pretty quiet in this thread...
No Eagles or Steeler fans here?
It will feel very strange rooting for the Jets this Sunday to beat the Steelers. I can not remember the last time I wanted them to win a game!
How about those Bills? Is a late season run to 10-6 in the cards?
After the Pats opening kickoff return for a TD, the camera focused on the Brown's coach who was clapping and then on Belichick who was scowling...I was sure there was a penalty! Seemed strange, but the Brown's coach was clapping all game as if he was rooting for the Pats!
Who was the biggest offseason aquisition...T Owens or C Dillon? |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Pretty quiet in this thread...
Pats!
Who was the biggest offseason aquisition...T Owens or C Dillon?
Depends which one is holding the big shinny throphy(Lombardi) at the end of the Super Bowl. |
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| socalJD |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Who was the biggest offseason aquisition...T Owens or C Dillon?
I say TO - everyone seems to hate his disrespectin' endzone celebrations, yet no one can stop him from scoring. He's like the NFL's version of Howard Stern - people watch the Iggles because they want to see what TO's gonna do next . . . somehow I can't imagine Dillon doing that MNF/Desperate Housewifes lead in and creating much of a buzz . . . |
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| m2pc |
| Charlie Weiss going to be head coach on ND. Good thing/bad thing for Patriots. Cons-Lose a great offensive coordinator (may have lost him after the season when his contract ran out) and disruptive. Pro, won't be playing against him in the NFL. |
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| Maik |
Glad to see Charlie getting what he wants. Truly one real nice guy.
I hope he is able to overcome the same issue that the past several ND coaches have had in terms of recruiting.
What a year for Manning...46 and counting. To bad the Super Bowl path runs through Pittsburgh and Foxboro in January after a home wild card game.
Jets dissapointed yesterday, loosing to the Steelers.
Troy Brown became only the 2nd wide receiver in NFL history to intercept 3 passes in one year. |
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| m2pc |
P. Manning is a Machine
Impressive |
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| Maik |
A couple of important AFC games this weekend will go a long way in determining seedings:
San Diego @ Indy
Pats @ Jets
I certainly hope last nites game was a blip. Hard to believe that the Phins were the first team to capitalize on Pats DB injuries. Of course Brady's brain farts did not help either. Hopefully, Pats will come out smokin against the Jets.
I think the loss will help the Pats understand that they need to be working on all cylinders all the time. |
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| mullysalt |
At least with the Pats loss last night it made those two games and the Pitt/Balt game that much more meaningful.
Special treat from Santa Claus(Tags):Raiders vs. Chiefs Christmas Day @ 5:00 est. :D |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
At least with the Pats loss last night it made those two games and the Pitt/Balt game that much more meaningful.
Special treat from Santa Claus(Tags):Raiders vs. Chiefs Christmas Day @ 5:00 est. :D
It sure does suck. Last nites game was a throwback to the late 80's and early 90's when the Pats had the uncanny ability to snatch a loss from the jaws of victory every week!
A loss by the Pats to the Jets coupled with a San Diego win and suddenly the Pats no longer will have a week one bye! |
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| keremoner |
| BTW, when is Ty Law supposed to be back Maik? |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
BTW, when is Ty Law supposed to be back Maik?
This AM, on the local radio talk station, it was mentioned that he would likely see his first action against SF.
I would caution, however, I also heard last week that Ty Poole was ready to play full time. Two days later, he was put on IR.
Pats will need Law at full speed if they have any thoughts of going deep into the playoffs. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
This AM, on the local radio talk station, it was mentioned that he would likely see his first action against SF.
I would caution, however, I also heard last week that Ty Poole was ready to play full time. Two days later, he was put on IR.
Pats will need Law at full speed if they have any thoughts of going deep into the playoffs.
I think they'll do just fine. This loss served them well. At least now their feet touch the ground. I still don't see any serious roadblocks on the road to Super Bowl. |
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| Maik |
Kudos to Manning for setting the record. Too bad the road to the Super Bowl will take him through Foxboro once again. And even if they manage to win that one, then another cold weather game in Pitt.
Four solid teams in the AFC playoffs. Pitt, NE, Colts and Bolts.
Funny, since I said that Bledsoe was done after a pitiful showing against the Pats, the Bill may be the hottest team of the rest.
If the Broncos beat the Colts on Sunday, they may get a chance to play them again the following week in the wildcard game.
I remember a few years ago, the Pats played the Dolphins 3 times in 4 weeks (2 reg season games and 1 wildcard) |
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| MDteX |
Chatham Fog!
Congrats to the pigskin prognosticating pro! |
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| mullysalt |
| Have the playoffs started yet? It sure is quite around here. I see that the Pats signed Hank Poteat from Pitt and the Pittsburgh Steelers to help in defensive backfield. Without Law it could be anarchy sunday in Foxboro. |
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| 04mdx4sq |
| If the past weekend's Wild Card games are any indicator, this could be a great postseason to watch. I'm still holding out hope for the Rams, you never know what they will do. |
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| JimH |
| What a terrible performance by Favre. He has some great games, in addition to some terrible games. GB seems to be a mediocre team when they reach the playoffs. Will still be fun to watch the great teams with the good records in the next few weeks. |
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| hockeyplayer |
| Just scored 2 playoff tickets to the Falcons-Rams game:yesyes: |
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| mullysalt |
:29: Enjoy the game. What else are you doing for kicks to fill the NHL void? I know the lockout has really killed bar business in and around Hockeytown.
Back on topic I like the Rams and the points. I'm not sure yet if the Rams can win outright but I like them against the number. |
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| Maik |
It amazes me the relative lack of respect the Pats get nationally. They played a far tougher schedule than the Colts, equalled them in margin of victory (point differential), beat the Colts in week 1, and, Payton is 0-5 in Foxboro. The Pats have put together back to back 14-2 seasons, have not lost a home game in 3 years, have not had their starting safeties for 10 weeks and yet people think the Colts will run roughshod on the Pats as they did against the Broncos. While an argument may be made that the Pats defense is not as strong as last year, the Pats offense is far better than last year and will be at full strength. I believe that the addition of Dillon will prove to be the deciding factor in this game. Early weather forcast calls for clear and cold, temps in low 20's.
I predict the Pats will prevail in a high scoring game, something like 34-28.
Additionally, I like the Jets chances in Pitt. The Jets only real defensive weakness are the corners, but I dont see Pitt being able to exploit them. The Jets have a first rate run defense and a solid running game of their own. I think this will be a closer game than most think.
As for the NFC, who cares. Those games simply serve as entertainment value as warm ups for the AFC. With exception of the Eagles, very weak teams.
Three out of four road teams won last weekend, I suspect it will even out this week with 3 out of 4 home teams winning. |
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| keremoner |
are the weather and Bellichick. If the weather is less than ideal for the passing game, that'll give Pats a definite edge. Also, I believe that Pat's superior coaching will allow them to adjust to Colts high powered offense.
On a side note, I think Pats need to be prepared to outscore Colts in a very high scoring game in order to win. That means they should use Troy Brown as a reciever and not as a safety/defensive back. They are simply giving up too much offensive potential by doing that than gaining in defensive ways. I don't know if that made sense!
I predict Pats over Colts in a close game. Other winners, I predict, will be Pittsburgh, Philly, and Rams. I see Pats against Rams in the Superbowl with Pats rolling over the Rams. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
That means they should use Troy Brown as a reciever and not as a safety/defensive back. They are simply giving up too much offensive potential by doing that than gaining in defensive ways.
Sorry to dissagree...but Troy has performed quite well as the nickel,
unfortunately the real nickels are playing full time!
One of the best quotes I have heard about the Pats was by Ted Washington, who recently said that playing in Bill Bellichik's defense is a very humbling experience. He told of how he missed 6 games last year, but the Pats did not even miss a beat. |
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| laborlitigator |
I agree that the Pats are still favored, simply based on the fact that the Colts have no defense whatsoever.
As a New York fan, I still can't see the Jets going into Hinez Field and upsetting them. They made their season with last weeks win. |
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| mullysalt |
I like the road teams plus the points in all cases except NE. 2 point rule in effect go with home team. I still have no idea on who might win these games but the NYJ, MIN and STL take 'em.
NE give 'em.:blingblin |
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| Maik |
In a move that reminds me of Red Auerbach's turning up the heat in the Lakers locker room during the playoffs, Bellichik has ordered the field to remain uncovered this week, despite snow, freezing rain and rain. Expect a sloppy mess to slow down the Colts!
Gotta love home field advantage. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Nothing wrong with that. That's why fight the whole year for that advantage. If it was me, I'd leave the sprinklers on until Sunday :4: |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Nothing wrong with that. That's why fight the whole year for that advantage. If it was me, I'd leave the sprinklers on until Sunday :4:
heh, heh. With the decimated secondary, Pats need the edge a poor field will give them. I still believe that the winner of this game will be the Super Bowl champs. So, effectively, this is the Super Bowl for me. |
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| hockeyplayer |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
:29: Enjoy the game. What else are you doing for kicks to fill the NHL void? I know the lockout has really killed bar business in and around Hockeytown.
Back on topic I like the Rams and the points. I'm not sure yet if the Rams can win outright but I like them against the number.
The NHL lockout really sucks but I have found myself finding other ways the spend my time and money. Being born and raised in Canada....Hockey has always been in my life. I make up for it by playing in an extra league to pass the time. Looking forward to the game tomorrow. My first NFL playoff game. I have been to plenty CFL playoff games but I anticipate a completely different atmosphere. Hope they pull it off. |
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| mullysalt |
:4:
P.S.-How 'bout those Stealers!:eek: |
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| laborlitigator |
| Same ole' Jets |
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| hockeyplayer |
Holy Moly.......Had a blast at the game last night. It was extremely loud and was great to see the team click on offense. The defense looked a little shaky early on but settled down in the second half. Not sure who Atlanta would pair up better with.
Philidelphia w/o T.O in Philly or
Minnesota w/Moss in Atlanta.
I think they could contain Culpepper quite nicely seeing as he is not as mobile as Mcnabb. Atlanta rushes the passer well. My prediction is....
Atlanta will lose to Philly but Win against Vikings.
GO VIKINGS!! |
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| m2pc |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Same ole' Jets
The Jets had the game(2X!), the team played well. I'd hate to be the placekicker though. |
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| keremoner |
| Pats just showed why they'll become a third time SB winner in 4 years. How a team with a decimated secondary do that to the Colts is amazing. |
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| greatscot |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
Pats just showed why they'll become a third time SB winner in 4 years. How a team with a decimated secondary do that to the Colts is amazing.
THat was only part of it. The key was eating up the clock and keeping Manning off his rythm. Pats looked very good. Next week's game should be a fierce repeat with the Steel Deal in Pittsburgh.
I'm rooting for the Eagles to win all the marbles. |
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| Maik |
Best sign I saw at the game....
Hey Payton, who's your Daddy? |
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| mullysalt |
The Pats have lost a grand total of three games the last two seasons and they still have to play the AFC Championship on the road.:8:
As much as I love Big Ben, I think the Rookie Reality School and Prof. Belichik are coming to town and it could get ugly.
Since 2001 the Pats are 13-0 when facing a QB for the second time that season. |
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| Maik |
I HATE the Jets.
On the one hand, it will be fitting to see the Pats dismantle the Steelers, but I also would have loved to get one more home game. |
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| laborlitigator |
As usual defense prevails over offense. Usually, one of the 2 championship games is an upset.
I'll stick with my defensive picks- Steelers against the Eagles. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
As usual defense prevails over offense. Usually, one of the 2 championship games is an upset.
I'll stick with my defensive picks- Steelers against the Eagles.
Last time both home teams won the Conf Championship games - 1991.
No way the Pats loose twice to the Steelers in the same season.
Pats vs Eagles in Super Bowl.
It is interesting that all of the teams with weak defenses have been eliminated. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
As usual defense prevails over offense. Usually, one of the 2 championship games is an upset.
I'll stick with my defensive picks- Steelers against the Eagles.
Not only Pats have Dillon back but back in Oct. they had not adjusted defensively to atone for Laws injury. Those days are long gone now. Even without Law or Poole, Pats will overcome whatever Pitt can throw at them. Rothlisberger is a rookie and showed it in the game against the Jets. Pats will eat his lunch in front of his home crowd. With the superior coaching of Pats, I do not believe that there will be a contest. Philly will even be less of a challenge in SB.
Can you spell D-Y-N-A-S-T-Y ?? |
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| weichung |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
As usual defense prevails over offense. Usually, one of the 2 championship games is an upset.
I'll stick with my defensive picks- Steelers against the Eagles.
A Yankees fan will never roof for a Boston team especially after this year's colossal collapse. |
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| hockeyplayer |
| I love the fact that no one has even mentioned the possibility of the Falcons in the Superbowl. I love rooting for the "underdog":cool: |
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| laborlitigator |
I don't think the Falcons have a snowballs chance in. . . well, you know the rest. It rhymes with hell.
The Pats/Steelers game too close to call. It really matters if they Steelers can run the ball at all. |
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| m2pc |
Yup, too close to call. Of course the Steelers can run the ball, if not one, then the other RB.
I think the Question is whether or not the Patriots..really Dillon can be effective enough to make the D bite on play action.
Either way, this is hard-nose football on both sides and should make for a good game. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Welcome to the snowbowl |
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| mullysalt |
| Two best teams all season long. Now that I picked them both now would be a wise time for everyone to bet Pitt and ATL. |
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| laborlitigator |
The Eagles lost a 4th straight championship game. . .
The Pats lost a close game on a call that DIDN'T go there way. |
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| xfactor |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
I...The Pats/Steelers game too close to call. It really matters if they Steelers can run the ball at all.
It wont be close at all. The Steelers run will end today. Belicheck will expose them today, just like he did the Colts. It is a shame that there are really no good teams these days to challenge the a decent Pats team. |
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| xfactor |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
The Pats lost a close game on a call that DIDN'T go there way.
It will never happen.... |
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| keremoner |
| Pats are the best team of modern SuperBowl era. Period. |
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| Maik |
In two playoff games, the Pats held the top offense to a fieldgoal, and then follow that up by putting up 41 points against the "best" defense.
BTW, what language does Shannon Sharpe speak? In the pregame show, I could not understand a word that came out of his mouth. What a jerk. |
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| keremoner |
Sharpe, Hoge, and other naysayers are too dumb for their own good. These people do NOT know football despite their involvement with the game.
let me explain why Pats will continue to be great for the foreseeable future. They are not great because of one or two players. They are unbeatable because they have the perfect combination of ingenious coaching, excellent QB to implement the game plans, and a unique team spirit in the NFL. Until Bellichick and/or Brady retires from the game, they will be dominant. |
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| mullysalt |
quote:
Originally posted by keremoner
Pats are the best team of modern SuperBowl era. Period.
Whoa! Wait a minute, Kere, your Pats are very dynastic indeed but even with a win over the Eagles they will have only equalled the Dallas Cowboys in winning 3 of 4 SB's. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Whoa! Wait a minute, Kere, your Pats are very dynastic indeed but even with a win over the Eagles they will have only equalled the Dallas Cowboys in winning 3 of 4 SB's.
I dont really care what you call it. As a long time season ticket holder, and a longer time avid Pats fan...I simply call it a ton of FUN!
Regardless of what happens next, it has been (and still is) a great run.
Now, I wait patiently to see if I am one of the lucky ones to get the opportunity to buy Super Bowl tix. The Pats allocate something like 5,000 tickets for season ticket holders and they have a lottery with each season ticket entered once. So, since I own 4, I get 4 chances. |
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| mullysalt |
| I hope your numbers hit and you get to go to Jacksonville and I also hope Ty Law is a Chief next year. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Whoa! Wait a minute, Kere, your Pats are very dynastic indeed but even with a win over the Eagles they will have only equalled the Dallas Cowboys in winning 3 of 4 SB's.
The only three teams that I really consider to be dynasties were the Packers of the '60's, Dallas, and 49ers of the '80s. Others like the Bears, Dolphins, and Steelers were too short lived and not dominating enough. Now, these dynasties were dominant in the pre salary cap era when dominance was more likely than today's structure. Also, those teams had many dominating players. Pats on the other hand, excel in every aspect of the game. Individually they are not an unheard of team but as a team (coaching, players, and team spirit) they are every bit as great as the Packers were. |
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| xfactor |
quote:
Originally posted by mullysalt
Whoa! Wait a minute, Kere, your Pats are very dynastic indeed but even with a win over the Eagles they will have only equalled the Dallas Cowboys in winning 3 of 4 SB's.
Mully, You cant fault a guy for getting emotional regarding his team. Logic is not an option. The Pats are a good team, better than the other watered down mediocre teams right now, and thats all that matters. I can't remember when a mutliple super bowl championship team has only a coach who will likely enter the hall of fame. Congrats to the Pats, anyhow. Now they join the Raiders as 3 time champs. |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by xfactor
I can't remember when a mutliple super bowl championship team has only a coach who will likely enter the hall of fame.
Try Brady, Dillon, and Law as three others, if not more, who will join him. Brady for sure since no one has won SB as young as he was. To me, the only other QBs of that caliber were Montana and Aikman. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by xfactor
I can't remember when a mutliple super bowl championship team has only a coach who will likely enter the hall of fame.
Jury is still out on that statement. I suspect that Brady, Vinatieri, Seymor and Dillon are at least on the right path. Others such as Bruschi, Troy Brown and Harrison should be Pro Bowlers but are not due to lack of self promoting. Another problem is that many of the studs on this team are very young. For example, center Dan Koppin is only in his second year and Matt Light his fourth.
You can call the NFL watered down all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the final 4 this year was every bit as good as the final 4 of any other season. |
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| mullysalt |
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Originally posted by xfactor
Logic is not an option.
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| keremoner |
| I have clearly stated the logic by why Pats are so successful and why their championships at an era when competition is fiercer are if anything more telling than old dynasties'. Now lets hear your 'logic' (that is if you have any) |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by mullysalt
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It amuses me to read and hear all this talk about the Pats being called a dynasty. Having grown up in the 1960's with the Boston Celtics, my view of a sports dynasty is largely defined by them, the evil empire and the Montreal Canadians. To consider 3 or 4 championships a dynasty simply does not cut it for me.
Even if the Pats win (which I hope and think they will), I will defer any pronouncement of a dynasty until at least the 2008 Super Bowl.
If they win this one, and the next three we can talk. Until then, its a great run.
The last couple of years have been amazing times around these parts, between the Pats and the Sox. |
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| xfactor |
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Originally posted by keremoner
I have clearly stated the logic by why Pats are so successful and why their championships at an era when competition is fiercer are if anything more telling than old dynasties'. Now lets hear your 'logic' (that is if you have any)
Relax K, Don't let my opinion hurt your feelings. Clearly you are youthful and exited. Obviously, if you increase the number of teams with the same percentage of capable players, the team quality will decline. I doubt we'll see as many good players on one team again. For example, the Steelers drafted the quality of Swann, Stallworth, Lambert, Allen, and Webster in one day. Four hall of famers out of this group. Those are the facts.
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