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keremoner
Decimated secondary and all, Pats are ready to finish off the business of winning their third SB in 4 years. BTW, xfactor, I wonder where would any of the former dynasties be if they suffered the kind of injuries Pats did and had to play rookies and second stringers?
Regarding Law, if he goes to KC, he will be great help to them. As much as I'd hate to see him go, we've been able to win without him.
xfactor
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Originally posted by keremoner
Decimated secondary and all, Pats are ready to finish off the business of winning their third SB in 4 years. BTW, xfactor, I wonder where would any of the former dynasties be if they suffered the kind of injuries Pats did and had to play rookies and second stringers?
Regarding Law, if he goes to KC, he will be great help to them. As much as I'd hate to see him go, we've been able to win without him.



K, Your post proves my point. Belichick can put you and I in the secondary and still not miss a beat. The Pats are not about personnel, but about scheme... Whe said playing in his scheme was a humbling experience? I think it was Ted Washington.

And for the record, I was correct (as usual) regarding the outcome of the game... reference my prior post...

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Originally posted by xfactor


It wont be close at all. The Steelers run will end today. Belicheck will expose them today, just like he did the Colts. It is a shame that there are really no good teams these days to challenge the a decent Pats team.



Just the facts maam....;)
Maik
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Originally posted by xfactor


K, Your post proves my point. Belichick can put you and I in the secondary and still not miss a beat. The Pats are not about personnel, but about scheme... Whe said playing in his scheme was a humbling experience? I think it was Ted Washington.

And for the record, I was correct (as usual) regarding the outcome of the game... reference my prior post...



Just the facts maam....;)



If by that statement, you are professing a popular, yet incorrect view that the Patriots are a team lacking talent and relying on the coach, I beg to differ.

The Pats defense consists of many talented players, who are very smart, very versatile, play together very well and are able to execute a well conceived game plan without making key mistakes.

You and Keremoner would not make it in the secondary because there are no self promoting egos there.
xfactor
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Originally posted by Maik
...You and Keremoner would not make it in the secondary because there are no self promoting egos there.


LOL! Aw common Maik! Don't you think you as the FS, Mully at SS, K at RCB, and me at LCB would make a fearsome secondary! If you ain't got an ego, you'll never make it at corner :D Just ask Ty Law!...:2:
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keremoner
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Originally posted by xfactor


LOL! Aw common Maik! Don't you think you as the FS, Mully at SS, K at RCB, and me at LCB would make a fearsome secondary! If you ain't got an ego, you'll never make it at corner :D Just ask Ty Law!...:2:



Now, that sounds like an unbeatable team !!:4:
Maik
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Originally posted by xfactor


LOL! Aw common Maik! Don't you think you as the FS, Mully at SS, K at RCB, and me at LCB would make a fearsome secondary! If you ain't got an ego, you'll never make it at corner :D Just ask Ty Law!...:2:



Trust me, I am far better suited to play inside linebacker.
socalJD
You guys can play all the 'D' that you want, I'd rather be Vinatieri - this way I get to take about 95% of the plays off, my uni stays clean, and oh by the way, I'll kick the the GAME WINNING FG in the waning moments just like the last 2 SBs that the Pat played in. Without Vinatieri, the Pats are the 00's version of Buffalo, close but no dice - just ask the Lambs & the Panzies . . .
Maik
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Originally posted by socalJD
You guys can play all the 'D' that you want, I'd rather be Vinatieri - this way I get to take about 95% of the plays off, my uni stays clean, and oh by the way, I'll kick the the GAME WINNING FG in the waning moments just like the last 2 SBs that the Pat played in. Without Vinatieri, the Pats are the 00's version of Buffalo, close but no dice - just ask the Lambs & the Panzies . . .


Not your typical kicker...

One of the most remarkable plays I ever saw Vinatieri make was in his rookie season when the Pats were playing the Cowboys. Herschel Walker took a kickoff down the sidelines toward an apparant TD. Vinitieri ran him down from behind and tackled him at the 5 yard line. Not many players could run Walker down from behind, even at the end of his career.
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mullysalt
It seems as though the Pats don't really need to spend all that money on Law to go the Super Bowl. May as well cut him and save big $$ on the Pats cap. There should be plenty of good corners on the market who would want to play for NE, call it the Corey Dillon effect.
Maik
What's interesting is that Law's cap number next year is $12.5mil, if they cut him, the hit is something like $3mil. The Pats are not in a desperate situation. They could pay Law and still be under the cap.
Given the performances and improvement of Samuel and Gay, it will make for an interesting scene. I would guess that they will cut him.
mullysalt
until the Super Bowl.

Maik, kere how are you guys holding up during the two week hype-fest or is this just old hat for you guys?

sounds like Crennel is going to coach the Browns. Poor sap.:headshake
keremoner
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Originally posted by mullysalt
until the Super Bowl.

Maik, kere how are you guys holding up during the two week hype-fest or is this just old hat for you guys?

sounds like Crennel is going to coach the Browns. Poor sap.:headshake



Wait is no problem for me. As for Crennel, he wants to be a head coach so I guess you cannot blame the guy. Gotta start somewhere you know. At this day and age, any team can rise to the top pretty quickly as the Pats showed it to people.
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Maik
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Originally posted by mullysalt
until the Super Bowl.

Maik, kere how are you guys holding up during the two week hype-fest or is this just old hat for you guys?

sounds like Crennel is going to coach the Browns. Poor sap.:headshake



Ya, two weeks is a tough wait. Unfortunately, I did not get any tix by way of the season ticket lottery, so I will be watching from home.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am already sick of hearing about T.O. Who cares if he plays or not? If he does, he will get hit low once, and that will be the end of his appearance.
I must also admit, I am equally sick of hearing about the Pats dynasty. Really, what changes if they can be classified as one or not?

I guess I am ready for the game.
socalJD
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Originally posted by Maik

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am already sick of hearing about T.O. Who cares if he plays or not? . . .

I must also admit, I am equally sick of hearing about the Pats dynasty. Really, what changes if they can be classified as one or not?



Ah, Maik - welcome to the world of media hype. These so-called sports journalists are paid to create hype so they will have something to report/talk/argue/conjecture/beat-to-death . . . is it truly newsworthy - most likely not, but on slow sports days, they need something to justify their high salaries and fuel their huge egos. Kinda reminds me of the Randy Moss faux moon, I actually thought it was funny, laffed my a$$ off - whereas every sports commentator feigned offense and jumped on the band wagon to ridicule & condemn Moss. Just like TO, if you want to stop guys like that from obnoxious celebration - KEEP them OUT of the endzone !!!

As for dynasties, I agree with your earlier post. To ME, a dynasty is best exemplified by the Celtics or Ucla Bruins (you gotta know how much it disgusts me to admit this) teams that won something like 10 titles in 12 years - THAT is truly a DYNASTY, anything less is just a nice run . . .
mullysalt
We'll find out today when HS football studs from across the nation sign their letters of intent. Carroll and his staff are gold standard when it comes to recruiting. If Carroll stays and the success continues why not SC? The pac-10 being down helps but sooner(no pun intended) or later 'Zona or Cal or U-Dub will step up and challenge the Trojans.

I thought it was funny that the People's Chump (Freddie Mitchell) had to sit in the stands at media day.:2:
greatscot
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Originally posted by mullysalt
. . . The pac-10 being down helps but sooner(no pun intended) or later 'Zona or Cal or U-Dub will step up and challenge the Trojans.
. . .


more likely it will be later, not "sooner"
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Maik
From today's Boston Globe:
Maik
The cost of success...Patriots have announced new ticket prices for next season. My tix will increase from $99 to $125! Ouch!
mullysalt
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Originally posted by Maik
The cost of success...Patriots have announced new ticket prices for next season. My tix will increase from $99 to $125! Ouch!


That takes a brass set to raise the price of a ticket $26 per game. I can believe it though, the Chiefs went 13-3 and uppped my tix by $9 a seat per game. That's chump change compaired to you, Maik,
I'm glad the Chiefs brass did the right thing and not raise prices for this season.
laborlitigator
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Originally posted by keremoner


The only three teams that I really consider to be dynasties were the Packers of the '60's, Dallas, and 49ers of the '80s. Others like the Bears, Dolphins, and Steelers were too short lived and not dominating enough. Now, these dynasties were dominant in the pre salary cap era when dominance was more likely than today's structure. Also, those teams had many dominating players. Pats on the other hand, excel in every aspect of the game. Individually they are not an unheard of team but as a team (coaching, players, and team spirit) they are every bit as great as the Packers were.

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Maik
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Originally posted by mullysalt


That takes a brass set to raise the price of a ticket $26 per game. I can believe it though, the Chiefs went 13-3 and uppped my tix by $9 a seat per game. That's chump change compaired to you, Maik,
I'm glad the Chiefs brass did the right thing and not raise prices for this season.



There are 50,000 people on a waiting list, each having paid a deposit. That, in connection with the fact that my current account is 15 years old (my seats are quite good), means that I really have no choice but to pay up. For the first time, however, I am considering selling the preseason tickets.
xfactor
This has to be one of the most STUPID trades of all time!:3:

http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8222133

Al, what are you thinking? :confused:
nightguy
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Originally posted by xfactor
This has to be one of the most STUPID trades of all time!:3:

http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8222133

Al, what are you thinking? :confused:



I think the trade fits the Raiders history perfectly. :)

The Vikings could have done a little better but just getting rid of the cancer on the team - addition by subtraction - is a good deal in itself. They need help in the middle defense more than anywhere else.

Sure Moss is a slam dunk circus kind of player but the fact remains the Vikings have not even been close to a superbowl since he's been there. It's cool when he makes spectacular plays but the position and contract are overrated. I still have a hard time remembering names of Patriots receivers. I think Burleson filled in nicely. I believe he led the NFL in YAC.

On the downside for the Raiders is the attitude, the me first, and injuries the past 3 seasons. But maybe he'll be happier by the Bay.

On the downside for the Vikings: no one to run over traffic cops, no one to lend out their Lexus and have it come back with pot in the ashtray, no one to take plays off when they want, and no one to walk off the field with 2 seconds left in the game.
laborlitigator
Plus isn't it is habit in collecting trophy players. . .
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xfactor
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Originally posted by nightguy


I think the trade fits the Raiders history perfectly. :)

The Vikings could have done a little better but just getting rid of the cancer on the team - addition by subtraction - is a good deal in itself. They need help in the middle defense more than anywhere else...



The Raiders usually obtain high profile players by draft, or free agency, which I can accept... But when you start GIVING away top draft choices and picks, you assure yourself of last place, forever...

The Raiders didn't need help at WR. Porter, Curry, and Gabriel had that covered. The name of the game is Defense!! Geeez, the Nation is in mourning...:mad:
laborlitigator
Is the trade done?
nightguy
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Is the trade done?


They can't do it or comment on it until 3/2, but an inside Vikings source spilled the beans and Moss' agent confirmed it.

Now the big question is will there be a fight over the #84 jersey in Oakland ?
laborlitigator
My Gints land Burress, fortify the line with McKenzie and add a decent LB in Pierce.

Mully, can I start to dream of .500 at least?!:2party:

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