| stanmanh |
| Is there anyway to by-pass the initial "ok" screen on the navigation system. The inconvenience of pressing the "ok" screen annoys me everytime I turn on the ignition!!! |
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| BaldEagle |
Rats.:mad: After reading the title of your thread I mistakenly thought you had come up with a solution to the annoying disclaimer screen.
This has been discussed here a few times in the past and no one has a clue so far as to how to get rid of it.
Now with the recent upgrade the equally annoying non-verified road disclaimer needs to be zapped. |
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| n3tel |
It would involve some electronic knowledge, and some skill in assembling small electronic parts.
Basically, I would tie the output of an opto-isolator across the terminals of the "enter" button, and drive the optoisolator with 2 common 555 timer IC's. The timers would be set for a second or two later than the OK screen shows up. It would probably take 8 hours to engineer and install the first one, but once designed, it would be 2 hours tops to assemble and install one.
It is not worth my time to do this just to get rid of the screen, but if there is sufficient interest, I might be persueded into building the circuits, and making some instructions for installing.
There would have to be quite a few people willing to pay $40 per kit to make this worth my time, and personally, I don't see where that many people would be willing to pay $40 just to bypass the screen. I think a software hack would be much more preferable, but then one would have to burn a new DVD with the hacked software. Not as much cost there, but the hacking could take some time.
If we could only get to the programmers who wrote the software... heh heh heh |
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| XStatic |
| I wish the darn thing would just default to a trip computer of equivilent utility as the non-nav LCD trip computer and not request the OK unless you tried to use the navigation functions. |
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| Desant |
| The "hardware" solution is more difficult, but "software hack" may introduce issues with Digital Rights - there may be legal issues against somebody who would do that. |
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| n3tel |
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Originally posted by Desant
The "hardware" solution is more difficult, but "software hack" may introduce issues with Digital Rights - there may be legal issues against somebody who would do that.
I think we all know that, I did not think it even needed to be said, but I think you are right, we may need to be reminded of that.
If I was more familiar with some of the software laws, I may be able to suggest a way around that. No matter what someone would od in this area, it could come back to haunt them later.
I used to be cutting edge in a lot of areas... lately I am falling farther and farther behind the state of the art. I must be getting old. |
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| vlam |
| I think the OK button is annoying but I find the Manual Rear AC control to be even more annoying. The switch should keep it's setting if I want the rear to manually control the AC. |
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| mogur |
A fellow came up with one for BMWs that is quite clever. On BMWs, everything in the car communicates over a common data buss. He simply built a device that hangs on the buss and sends the Nav "OK" command when the car is powered up. Simple and effective, though not cheap. This is the same method that is used to interface the IPod to the BMW using their adapter, BTW. You can hang just about anything you want off that data buss, which makes it very nice for hackers...
FYI, I came up with an easier solution to get rid of the nag screen on my BMW. I simply coded the Nav Computer for the UK where they do not have any such screen. Now it comes up in exactly whatever mode I last left it. The only downside is that distances are now in yards and miles instead of feet and miles... I can live with that; prefer it in fact.
Tom
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Originally posted by stanmanh
Is there anyway to by-pass the initial "ok" screen on the navigation system. The inconvenience of pressing the "ok" screen annoys me everytime I turn on the ignition!!!
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| beytor |
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Originally posted by vlam
I think the OK button is annoying but I find the Manual Rear AC control to be even more annoying. The switch should keep it's setting if I want the rear to manually control the AC.
I agree! there should be a way to set the rear AC to default to maunal. Anyone know of any or is it just not designed that way?
The kids already remind me to set it to manual before I even start it!
I also agree with the Navi OK button. Also annoying. They should maybe have a EULA type doc as in software and only say ok once. or maybe pop it up once in so many uses.... |
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| DaleB |
| It would be much easier to bypass or 'lock' the Rear A/C function than bypass the OK screen. I think we have arrived at that conclusion. |
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| renov8r |
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Originally posted by DaleB
It would be much easier to bypass or 'lock' the Rear A/C function than bypass the OK screen. I think we have arrived at that conclusion.
...in terms of 'lines of code' one would need to change for the 'rear A/C manual override' that makes one push of the dash mount switch toggle the state of the rear controls to/from override is probably about equal to 'LOC' needed to change the behavior of the NAVI "ok".
I'm sure that the wording on the nag screen was very carefully choosen so that in the event of an "traffice related incident" Honda legal would have SOMETHING to stand on...
The EULA would have to be designed in such a way that when a "non-primary" driver (like valet, teenager, whatever) is driving the pop-up "pops"-- unless the lawyers throw away the whole 'fiction'. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by renov8r
...in terms of 'lines of code' one would need to change for the 'rear A/C manual override' that makes one push of the dash mount switch toggle the state of the rear controls to/from override is probably about equal to 'LOC' needed to change the behavior of the NAVI "ok".
In terms of programming, yes, I agree. But when I said easier, I was thinking in terms of bypassing the front switch function all together (wiring change), including the addition of a small toggle switch at the rear controls to either turn it on or off at the passengers will. Of course, it could not be turned on if the front A/C is off. |
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| XStatic |
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Originally posted by DaleB
In terms of programming, yes, I agree. But when I said easier, I was thinking in terms of bypassing the front switch function all together (wiring change), including the addition of a small toggle switch at the rear controls to either turn it on or off at the passengers will. Of course, it could not be turned on if the front A/C is off.
Programming for A/C control assumes you can change the firmware in the climate control unit. The Nav is obviously upgradeable.
As far as a toggle switch, it looks like you can short the WHT/Yel (Panel DS1) and LT BLU (Panel D3) wires from the climate control panel to the climate control unit and the rear will always be in rear control mode when you start the vehicle. The other DS1 driven controls (def/rec) will function normally and the LED indicators will work correctly as well.
When you remove the short it will remain in rear control mode and use the panel switch to toggle the behavior or the next time it shorts it will switch back to auto. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by XStatic
Programming for A/C control assumes you can change the firmware in the climate control unit. The Nav is obviously upgradeable.
As far as a toggle switch, it looks like you can short the WHT/Yel (Panel DS1) and LT BLU (Panel D3) wires from the climate control panel to the climate control unit and the rear will always be in rear control mode when you start the vehicle. The other DS1 driven controls (def/rec) will function normally and the LED indicators will work correctly as well.
When you remove the short it will remain in rear control mode and use the panel switch to toggle the behavior or the next time it shorts it will switch back to auto.
You don't let grass grow under your feet, I have not even cracked the manual yet! And I am retired! Or maybe it's just tired! :4:
I would probably consider if it was out of warranty. As it is I have to bring it in for what is probably a faulty transistor for the rear blower. |
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