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| kflint |
This experience is consistent with this report. My wife's RX300 gets virtually identical mileage to my MDX.
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| mgtr |
| More info is always useful, but do we really decide these things on MPG? If you are buying a $10K commute car, then it is important. But when you are spending >$40K on a luxury car, surely other factors are more important -- even if gas should go to $3.00/gallon. If you cannot afford the gas, buy a KIA. |
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| JeffK |
Dear MGTR:
Either you are from Texas, own oil stocks or do not give a hoot about the environment.
Shame on you!
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| JL_SS |
| I wish I got 17 mpg city :( ..............although I did recently go from 11.5 to 12.1 mpg by driving extra conservatively. |
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| xcel |
Hi All:
___Not that a 2WD Mercury Mountaineer (EPA rated 15 City/20 Highway) was in Sushix’s list but I had 27.9 mpg showing off its rudimentary FCD coming home from Champaign, IL. 2 months ago after ~ 100 miles. My daughter is a manger at Avis - O’Hare so she wanted to take it instead given we didn’t have to pay for the fuel :D Once she took over however, down the toilet its fuel economy sank …
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| frostyra |
quote:
Originally posted by JeffK
Either you are from Texas, own oil stocks or do not give a hoot about the environment.
Shame on you!
I'm not sure why, but this comment offends me no end. Who are YOU to judge? And yes, I do happen to own oil stocks, not that it's any business of yours. |
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| xcel |
Hi Frostyra:
___Long time no hear!
quote:
Originally posted by frostyra
… and yes, I do happen to own oil stocks, not that it's any business of yours.
___With the money you have been making lately, you could be driving the X at 100 + mph around town while towing a Hummer and care less what gas costs :2:
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| perk |
quote:
Originally posted by JeffK
Dear MGTR:
Either you are from Texas, own oil stocks or do not give a hoot about the environment.
Shame on you!
JeffK
:wtf:
And either you are a yankee, also own stocks (but feel guilty about it), or a raving environmentalist.
I think MGTR got it about right. :p |
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| JeffK |
Without getting didactic, I believe it is wrong to waste our planets resources.
SUV, like hummers that get 7 mpg may have a place in the military, but they should not be allowed on the open road.
It is similar to the argument made years ago by Californians who in the midst of droughts insisted on hosing down their driveway because they could afford to pay whatever it cost for water.
Natural resources are limited and should be conserved where possible.
Think of your children and grandchildren and generations yet to be born.
Yes I am an environmentalist and proud of it!
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| eurohazard |
JeffK,
Not too many enviromentalists own 3 cars. And which of those 3 gets batter gas mileage? How is public transportation on Long Island?
And what is an "MBW 740il"?
Mostly I am just messing with you, but some oberservations came to me, and I had to them point out. |
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| JeffK |
In fact I commute daily via the Long Island Railroad.
It is a BMW740iL, which BTW got 24 to 26 mpg on the open road, but only 14 to 16 in town.
The Audi A6 gets reasonable gas mileage and the Boxster gets better than the Audi.
I do take into consideration mpg, not because of cost (although I hate to waste money) but because I hate to be wasteful.
I just cannot imagine why some of my friends wives are driving around town in Expeditions and Suburbans and Hummers.
My wife comments that this may be the new age of conspicuous consumption: Buy a car with the worst gas mileage to show your neighbors that you can afford it!
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| DaleB |
Heck with the environment, don't we each have at least one heir to take care of the air?
Our job is to drive consumption to the bleeding edge, to where it is no longer fashionable.
Think of it as a new renaissance!
We may not make everything in the USA, but we sure know how to use it better than anyone else.
Oh, what a feeling!
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by eurohazard
JeffK,
Not too many enviromentalists own 3 cars. And which of those 3 gets batter gas mileage? How is public transportation on Long Island?
What are too many cars for too few people? If he could drive them all at the same time, that COULD be a problem.
Interestingly, some of the most dedicated environmentalists own some 'dirty' vehicles (old VWs and Volvos come to mind). Nader in a K car when he could be driving a SULEV Honda vehicle, etc.
Talking clean air is one thing doing clean air is another. |
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| mogur |
Yes, our real world highway mileage is about what the epa reports but our city mileage is consistantly much worse than the EPA 17, rarely breaking through 14 and usually hovering around 12. It is heavily stop and go. Other MDX owners in the area get about the same but the Rx300/330 owners do considerably better, usually around 17...
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Originally posted by JL_SS
I wish I got 17 mpg city :( ..............although I did recently go from 11.5 to 12.1 mpg by driving extra conservatively.
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| sushix |
| I thought the comparison is interesting. I was surprised that German engines are not quite fuel efficient as the Japanese engines. For example MDX has a smaller engine than ML350 but is able to produce more horsepower than ML350 and much better MPG than ML350. |
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| jurincie |
| The EPA city rating on our '03 MDX is only about 1 mpg lower than the rating for the RX300 we traded in. But in the real world, I am getting about 4-5 MPG less with the MDX in the city. I guess you have to pay the price for hauling around another 600+ lbs. of vehicle. The highway is about the same due to the 5th gear on the MDX. |
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| Cruiser |
| We just ordered an 04 Touring DVD & Navi in the Sandstone metalic. We started shopping thinking we wanted a Sequoia. For fun I put together a spreadsheet that allowed you to figure what the difference in cost was for gas based on how far you drove, what the price of gas is and what the MPG is. It was a little higher than I had expected. At $2.25 per gallon, driving 140,000 miles and with car A getting 14 MPG and car B getting 20 MPG, the difference is $7000! |
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| keremoner |
quote:
Originally posted by JeffK
Without getting didactic, I believe it is wrong to waste our planets resources.
SUV, like hummers that get 7 mpg may have a place in the military, but they should not be allowed on the open road.
It is similar to the argument made years ago by Californians who in the midst of droughts insisted on hosing down their driveway because they could afford to pay whatever it cost for water.
Natural resources are limited and should be conserved where possible.
Think of your children and grandchildren and generations yet to be born.
Yes I am an environmentalist and proud of it!
JeffK
Let me guess, you are either a democrat or a green party voter, right? |
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| xcel |
Hi All:
___Instead of harping all over Jeff, why not think about it in another manner … And yes, I am a democrat.
___There isn’t any more of it being made. Found, pumped, refined, and used, yes. But made, no. In other words, it not a question of if, it is a question of when.
___With that, we have coal reserves that can be converted to synthetic fuels (albeit a dirty process) for supposedly another 300 + years from the Idaho/Wyoming areas. Canada has its Tar Sands with almost as much oil as Saudi IIRC. Another rather dirty process. Biodiesel, Biomass, and Ethanol have a positive energy balance although there will have to be a huge increase in actual planted acreage and depending on the costs, this method will compete with basic food and water supplies. We also have technology (Wind/Thermal/Solar/Nuclear/Biological for breaking H2O for H2) that should pay for itself when in fact oil does reach $60, $80, $100 + dollars a Barrel. Maybe another 100 nukes should supply enough electricity for possibly 25% of the general populaces average daily commuting needs via pure EV’s w/ no CO2, HC, NOx, or PM concerns. There is that swimming pool of highly radioactive spent fuel however :(
___It will get ugly but we do have alternatives … How we pollute our planet to extract and or refine these alternatives in our ever ending thirst for fuel is another question altogether.
___Even at $1.70 - $2.30 a gallon, we are living in the best of times. Enjoy it while it lasts because we will see this problem balloon to its extremes within most of our lifetimes.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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