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andreseng
:8: Did a search on "keyless entry". I noticed that many people miss those keypads as much as I do. Has anyone discovered a cost effective viable solution? There are tons of creative minds on this board. Surely someone has come up with something.
Pauls MDX
What do you mean by Keyless Entry a Remote Control or a Keypad on the exterior that can open doors without a Remote? I actually prefer the Remote Entry with an Aftermarket Alarm which gives an extended range. It also allows you to open Sunroof and all windows. In addition to an Auto-Start System and a short stop feature which allows you to keep vehicle running with alarm, go into a store and come-out and continue to go without re-starting the vehicle. Very handy feature which also enable you to cool down before entry in the Summer and Heat-up before entry in the winter.

Check it out here:

www.Clifford.com

http://www.clifford.com/g5/default.asp
andreseng
No, I mean the external keypad.
Pauls MDX
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Originally posted by andreseng
No, I mean the external keypad.


I haven't seen an outside Keypad for entry in quite a while, but I've seen the internal ones used for addition protection as an engine kill switch. I check out some of my installers to see if they can recommend what you're looking for.

Here's a couple I was able to find:

http://www.a1electric.com/keypadinst.htm

http://www.atrn.com/pdf/sbs_1000.pdf

http://www.autokeyless.com/KE-1600%20Main.htm

http://www.danmarco.com/keyless_entry.htm
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andreseng
Hey thanks! Doesn't look like a DIY though. Did you see the one has you drilling seven holes in your door.:eek:
vlam
No, I mean the external keypad.


Why would you want a keypad? Isn't it more work to open the door? Say it's raining really hard and you want to get into your car. Isn't it much easier to walk up to the car and open it because you unlocked it with a key fob verus standing there punching numbers?
Pauls MDX
The keypad probably does give you a little extra protection because Remote openers transmit on a frequency that can be copied. If your Alarm doesn't have the code hopping ability, it transmits on the same frequency every time. Technically if someone had a scanner and was able to find the frequency, they would be able to dis-arm and open your vehicle. Where on a keypad they would have to know the exact number code. I know the Clifford had that hopping ability to constantly change the frequency so even if someone tried to copy with a scanner, the frequency is always changing. This used to be on the top-of-line alarms($500-$750), but recently the technology has become less expensive and may be standard on lower cost alarms ($200-$350).
eurohazard
I wouldn't say the keypad is more safe than the Keyless Entry.

Ever look at an early 90's T-bird or Crown Vic? The ones with the keypad have 2 or 3 digits that are yellowish or even worn through. That makes it significantly easier for someone to guess your entry code.
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Pauls MDX
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Originally posted by eurohazard
I wouldn't say the keypad is more safe than the Keyless Entry.

Ever look at an early 90's T-bird or Crown Vic? The ones with the keypad have 2 or 3 digits that are yellowish or even worn through. That makes it significantly easier for someone to guess your entry code.



I wouldn't say that because there are alot of the inexpensive low levels alarms with remotes on the market which can be broken into very easily (Just think how a car thief would love one click the doors are open the kill switch disarmed, just has to hotwire). The 3 digit would have less combinations to try, but almost impossible for a car thief to sit and keep punching in codes. Most of the newer keypads are 5 or more digits which would make unlimited combinations and much more time needed to break it. I personally don't like the cosmetic look of those keypads and prefer spending the extra dollars and getting a top-of-line alarm to be safe, and have all the added extra's. I also would be concerned about replaced the keypad as the buttons brake in or over used. Then there's the cutting into the door for the initial installation. Ouch!!
andreseng
External keypads come in handy when another member of the family needs to get in to the car. In addition you can start the car , get out lock the door, and have another means of entrance. It's not a necessity. It's a convenience. I'm not talking about this as a replacement for an alarm. Think of it as a supplement. A 5 digit code, which is what my Expedition had, (the behemoth I traded in for the X) is pretty damn secure. No one got in to my vehicle in the 4 years I had it. Also comes in very handy on another issue I've seen mentioned around here. When folks have talked about adding the auto lock feature with a relay many people asked what would you do if the car wash guy locks your keys in because of the auto lock. With the keypad you always have another way in.
dipersp
I think the external keypad on my '94 TBird is the best thing. The pad is one solid piece, not individual pads, and is black. Keypad has 5 digits, plenty of combinations to come up with. It's very conveinent IF you ever lock your keys in the car, and also allows me to unlock the trunk and passenger side door by entering an additional code. Every car should have one!

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