| Rainman |
| Did any of you having transmission problems also have the towing package installed with the attendant transmission and power steering coolers? |
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| Warzau |
| There were users who have had problems with or without the coolers. As stated before it wasn't a issue of overheat from the lack of cooling but from the lack of fluid getting to the 3rd clutch pack. Hence the oil jet kit. |
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| bb123 |
My '02 tranny failed despite the dealer's installation of the towing package, including tranny & PS coolers. I had towed a 2800 boat/trailer package maybe a dozen times. My MDX never towed it particularly well, surging and pulsing almost imperceptibly on flat ground at steady speeds.
It's my decidely non-expert opinion that these trannies are failing because the MDX's torque converter is not sufficiently robust and is designed with smoothness rather than strength in mind. I've never seen a 250-260 hp motor that seems so delicate and lacking in torque. My 1988 Ramcharger with a tired 170 hp motor (115,000 mi.) pulls the same boat/motor combo much more easily.
As to your second point, I'm not sure that the oil jet kit is designed to address what seems to be the #1 reason for transmission failures, the 2-3 clutch pack. The oil jet kit was apparently designed to address a specific defect that caused a catastrophic tranny failure and lock-up. According to the Acura, the oil jet recall was in response to only 6(!!) transmission failures. Since well over 60 transmission failures from other causes have been reported on this website alone, the problem the oil jet kit is designed to address is not the same problem as the 2-3 clutch pack problem. BTW, isn't the 2-3 clutch pack problem the same problem that plagued the TL transmissions??
Dale, back me up here. . . .:4: |
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| Warzau |
| Yup on the TL probs |
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| bb123 |
That's what makes me so afraid of this problem. Acura has been unable to fix a problem that has dogged them since model year 1998! Six years is too long. If you can't fix it, scrap it! Go back to the 4-speed. It's not like buyers are insisting on a five speed auto tranny, is it?
I can't imagine keeping our '03 MDX past 50,000 miles, its factory warranty. I doubt it will make it to 150,000 (our usual expected life) without a tranny failure and I'm not going to fight over whether itstranny should be replaced under warranty.
I expect we'll swap it for a Toyota or CR-V (assuming it still has the 4-speed tranny). |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by bb123
My '02 tranny failed despite the dealer's installation of the towing package, including tranny & PS coolers. I had towed a 2800 boat/trailer package maybe a dozen times. My MDX never towed it particularly well, surging and pulsing almost imperceptibly on flat ground at steady speeds.
It's my decidely non-expert opinion that these trannies are failing because the MDX's torque converter is not sufficiently robust and is designed with smoothness rather than strength in mind. I've never seen a 250-260 hp motor that seems so delicate and lacking in torque. My 1988 Ramcharger with a tired 170 hp motor (115,000 mi.) pulls the same boat/motor combo much more easily.
As to your second point, I'm not sure that the oil jet kit is designed to address what seems to be the #1 reason for transmission failures, the 2-3 clutch pack. The oil jet kit was apparently designed to address a specific defect that caused a catastrophic tranny failure and lock-up. According to the Acura, the oil jet recall was in response to only 6(!!) transmission failures. Since well over 60 transmission failures from other causes have been reported on this website alone, the problem the oil jet kit is designed to address is not the same problem as the 2-3 clutch pack problem. BTW, isn't the 2-3 clutch pack problem the same problem that plagued the TL transmissions??
Dale, back me up here. . . .:4:
Huh? Oh, sorry ;) ..... well stated I could not say it better. The inspection and the oil jet fix will likely do nothing for MOST of the reasons an MDX tranny will fail.
The only reason that one problem is a recall, is that the failure might result in a greater safety hazard by the tranny locking up suddenly.
Most those on here who have reported problems, have limped to the dealership for service from what I can gather.
That is not say your tranny will not go completely out and leave you stranded. At the first sign of trouble pull over to the right ASAP would be my advice. |
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