| Jin_Chris |
Member who has 03/04 X (and a few minutes), you may want to visit this site,
http://www.all-acura.com/contentid-38.html
And find out these two statements such as,
"The shape of the differential gear and the shape of the oil sump have been changed to reduce the collection of oil in the pan and separate the oil from the gears. This reduction in friction improves efficiency, thereby boosting performance."
: So, Acura did something about "tranny oil" distribution, which probably make it not necessary to do oil jet service for 03 and 04.
"A lower gear is held for a longer-than-normal period to provide better climbing ability on hills and more engine braking on downhill grades. "
: As a lot of our members already experienced, 03/04 X seems a little slow to shift in lower gear even at higher rpm...
I hope this article give some bright side to 03 and 04 X owners.... (so that can enjoy the X's instead of worring about....) |
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| DaleB |
I don't think there is much doubt later models will not need the oil jet fix. Replacement transmissions for the older models do not seem to need it either. So it is likely a design change that is already incorporated.
Everything you state is about convenience and performance, but there is nothing about reliability.
Except for this statement on the same page you linked:
"Components are engineered to provide the durability needed for on-road, off-road and towing use "
Very few of us owners do any off-roading, and most do occasional if any towing at all. If they did indeed make the transmission more robust for off-roading and towing, I would suspect transmission failures should be a thing of the past for 99% of the owners. Time will tell. |
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| m2pc |
A little off topic, but along the same lines.
Just wanted to throw out that the 2003 & 2004 owners, if they bring their X into the shop, that they check and make sure the shop does not overfill the ATF in the drain and fill.
This happened to me and I figured out that although my 2003 takes only approx. 3 qts for a drain and fill, they re-filled with 4 qts, which is what the 2001 & 2002 calls for.
Would an extra quart of ATF be that bad? (About an inch & 1/4 above the hot level). |
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| renov8r |
http://www.quality-trans.com/faq/faq2.htm#8
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Originally posted by m2pc
A little off topic, but along the same lines.
Just wanted to throw out that the 2003 & 2004 owners, if they bring their X into the shop, that they check and make sure the shop does not overfill the ATF in the drain and fill.
This happened to me and I figured out that although my 2003 takes only approx. 3 qts for a drain and fill, they re-filled with 4 qts, which is what the 2001 & 2002 calls for.
Would an extra quart of ATF be that bad? (About an inch & 1/4 above the hot level).
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| Jin_Chris |
hmmmmmmmm.....
Not to be against the article written by professional, however, I would like to provide what I learned from other professional as well as I observed myself. It is......
It has been my firm understanding that it is not good to have A/T and even Engine overfilled.
More Oil will not likely hurt the sealing or internal component itself. However, overfilling causes unnecessary pressure internally. Even if such unnecessary pressure would not hurt anything "physically", it may pressurize the "air" into the oil.
Consequently, such oil+air mixture definately will not do its own job properly "lubricating". Modern high tech lubricant (synthetic oil) may be more robust in such pressurized environment, however still if it was overfilled, it would be certainly better to correct the level not to take any risk... It is way more easiler to remove the unnecessary oil now than tranny service later.......
Just my 2 cents... |
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| JimH |
| m2pc: If the shop overfilled, I would contact them and have them either drain and fill to proper levels, or I would get a written statement from them that this level of overfilling will have no adverse affects. I predict they would drain off the excess amount in the A/T. |
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| richkuan |
Every design has it's reasons. Don't over fill any fluids!!!
I have a friend who owns an Infiniti Q45. The dealership performed the maintenance and replaced the trans fluid. He found something wrong with the tranny after he got it back. Went back to the dealership and was told he needs a new tranny and asked for $$$$$. He asked me to get involved. I measured the trans fluid, it's incredibly high! We drained the fluid to lower it to the proper level. It's almost 3 quarters of excess trans fluid in his tranny! Test drive and problems went away.
We doubt that the dealership did this on purpose since he refused to do a "trans flush" and many other never heard high $$$$ items and the "consultant" apparently became very unhappy with this.
Anyways, I agree that it's much easier to keep the proper fluid levels now than spend $$$$ to get some weird problem fixed later. |
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| m2pc |
Thanks all,
I just wanted other 2003 & 2004 owners to be aware of this. My view is that if I pay a professional to do it, I expect professional level work. Not knowing what level to fill due to model year is not acceptable.
Because of this event, I have been able to convince my wife to let me change the ATF and save her some $$$ and myself the time of the dropoff and pickup.
Also, I found out that although they drained it, they never took out the plug and cleaned it (also unprofessional). I know this because after I had them drain and fill it, I drained and filled it myself 200 miles later and there was quite a bit of material on the magnet. ( I made a post with pic on the board if you want to see what I am talking about).
Great vehicle though, my wife loves it and lets me drive it once in a while if I don't piss her off ;) |
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