| dj-mdx2 |
My poor X! And my poor wallet!
As I was pulling out of the office parking space this afternoon (I usually park facing out and I was on the corner, with nobody on the passenger side), I happened to glance in the rearview and to my horror, there looked like there was frosted glass in the right rear. Sure enough, when I got out, the passenger side rear glass was shattered! I was initially looking for evidence of foul play but there was none. I do hang my coat on a plastic hanger inside but I hardly think that would have been enough to puncture it
My colleague said that there have been cases of the interior getting so hot here in the South that the window glass breaks. Never heard of that before...Has this happened to any of you? I would have thought that a luxo manufacturer like Acura would make more durable glass. |
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| eurohazard |
WOW! That is crazy! Maybe it was a frozen urine ball, and it melted by the time you saw it. :rolleyes:
Hope your deductible isn't too high. |
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| nightguy |
Hmmm. Any glass outside ? Glass inside seems to suggest it came from outside. Never heard of glass shattering from heat.
Is it tinted at all or is that just the colored glass ? Something could have happened at the tint shop. |
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| hammermdx |
| Bummer, the good news is that one is probably the easiest one to replace compared to all the other windows. |
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| eurohazard |
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Is it tinted at all or is that just the colored glass ? Something could have happened at the tint shop.
If there was tint on the windows, the film would have kept the glass from reaching the inside of the vehicle.
But it strange how dark his windows look! |
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| dj-mdx2 |
There was originally a smaller hole with hardly any glass inside or on the ground. The pattern of the break is such that there didn't look like there was an impact. The glass you see inside is from the closing of the rear hatch and the ride home, as the shards continued to break off. It doesn't show up well in the pics but the opposite corners of the glass panel look "more" shattered than the rest of it, indicating a non-traumatic force pushing on the glass without creating an impact, which kind of supports my friend's theory. The max temp earlier today was in the low 90's, nothing unusual for Alabama in the springtime.
Oh, and the rear glass is OEM tinted. And sadly, my comprehensible deductible exceeds the cost of the repair; the good news is that the repair shop is only asking $250+tax including labor. Not bad, considering the OEM part is around $800. But still.... |
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| nightguy |
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Originally posted by dj-mdx2
And sadly, my comprehensible deductible exceeds the cost of the repair;
That sucks. I have always had full glass, 0 deductible. AFAIK, I'm entitled to OEM glass. I'm not even sure if my insurance company does policies any other way. |
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| frostyra |
| It's just tempered glass, made to shatter into small pieces like that; I've seen it happen several times from heat. The X's glass is no better or no worse than anyone else's. |
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| zafer |
| Looks like a bare left foot impact to me.... |
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| crmsnidol |
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Originally posted by dj-mdx2
[BOh, and the rear glass is OEM tinted. And sadly, my comprehensible deductible exceeds the cost of the repair; the good news is that the repair shop is only asking $250+tax including labor. Not bad, considering the OEM part is around $800. But still.... [/B]
Will the tint match with the shop quote? |
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| dj-mdx2 |
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Originally posted by crmsnidol
Will the tint match with the shop quote?
Now that I don't know yet. I was so upset I just wanted reassurance that they could fix it quickly-- No point in driving a damaged vehicle with kids in the second row. They did a good job on my tinted 95 Odyssey last time... |
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| BWSmith201 |
Whoa, I've never heard of that happening, but the world's a funny place.
Gosh, sorry to see that! At least it isn't TOO expensive to fix...
The break in the rear bottom corner would suggest equal force (roughly) all over the window, which would lend credence to your friend's theory. Also, there are no variances in the shattering pattern; wouldn't there be if there was a point of impact, like a circular pattern of some sort? I don't know anything about physics, glass, or auto safety, just so you know... just a thought! |
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| nightguy |
| Hmmm. I'm starting to buy into this heat theory a little but maybe not the glass itself. Maybe the car expands. What else is around the window besides a seal ? Any metal ? |
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| Mr. Mom |
ACURA MDX . ORG > General > Problems > Rear Window Shattered
Might want to read this one... |
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| mdxx3 |
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Originally posted by zafer
Looks like a bare left foot impact to me....
No. I think the subwoofer did it...
What a bummer it had to happen. Glad no one was sitting near there at that time. |
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| G. COLTON |
It doesn't even take heat to cause a stress break in glass. I once had the rear window of my car shatter when a helicopter flew over very low. The rotor set up just the correct frequency to cause the window to shatter. This has no bearing on the quality of the glass.
With the exception of the windshield, the windows on all modern vehicles shatter into small fragments. These fragments are theoretically not sharp and will minimize and cutting. The windshield is a sandwitch which is designed to be strong.
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| crmsnidol |
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Originally posted by dj-mdx2
Now that I don't know yet. I was so upset I just wanted reassurance that they could fix it quickly-- No point in driving a damaged vehicle with kids in the second row. They did a good job on my tinted 95 Odyssey last time...
The OEM glass isn't tinted using a sheet as a shop would use - it's tinted during the manufacturing process (baked-in?, pre-colored glass?). Prepare yourself for it not to match exactly because the factory tint is a non-standard number like 18% or 22%. A 20% will be close. |
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| dj-mdx2 |
Thanks to all the well-wishers out there. Wish it were the subwoofer that did it. Finally got it replaced with PPG, which came highly recommended by the local glass repair guy - he says PPG supplies Honda and other mnufacturers. Oh, and all he could say about the cause of the break was that "something hit it;" he didn't buy into the heat theory. The tint, thankfully, matches the rest of the X windows. It was a little pricier, at $350 including labor, but nowhere near the $800+ OEM glass.
The pics are here:
Glass Replaced |
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| hammermdx |
| Looks great, glad that's behind you! |
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| snoman |
I have heard of heat breaking glass in a car before, and I have actually seen a vehicle that this happened to. High winds can also break glass.
How HEAT breaks car glass:
While it is rare, it does occur. USUALLY when it happens, the vehicle is parked early in the day. The windows are all rolled up tight. During the course of the day, the temperature changes significantly. Direct sunlight on the vehicle makes the temperature increase even more dramatic.
Cold air is more dense than warm air, so as it is warmed up, there is significant outward pressure on the glass. If the temperature change is significant, believe it or not, it can actually make a window pop.
How WIND breaks care glass:
It's not so much the wind, but the change in pressure that can occur when there are very high wind gusts. I used to be a ski instructor at Loveland Basin on the Continental Divide in Colorado. I learned from some of the Colorado natives that when there were extreme winds in the mountains, you should always leave one window open, just a crack. On the main road up to the mountains, winds of 100 mph or more are possible. If the wind is blowing that hard and then stops, the change in air pressure can pop out several windows in a car at once.
I've seen it. It happens. |
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| squaw_ski_bum |
It doesn't take much to take out a side window - any small, dense object moving sufficiently fast will do it. I once had a side window taken out by ajuvenile delinquent with a BB gun. There was a very tiny impact mark from the BB that I had to look really carefully to find as the entire window was shattered.
Windshields are amazingly strong. I was driving on a road parallel to a golf course when somebody hit a golf ball right into my path. One bounce on the road, one off my windshield, and gone, with no damage. |
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| Nibble99 |
| My window did broke out the same way a couple of months ago. My wife got in my 2005 MDX, then I got in, closed the door and then "BOOM". I looked outside and the window was shattered. I figured someone shot out the window but most of the glass was on the outside. Luckily the dealer covered it...what was most interesting was that I got the last window in the United States. Other than that it was back ordered. I imagine this has happened before to others. |
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