| hondacuraworld |
| I just may try this over the weekend.....my 5 year old son would get a charge out of this! |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by hondacuraworld
I just may try this over the weekend.....my 5 year old son would get a charge out of this!
Not so valuable lesson to a five year old to teach him how to be cruel.
Does not matter that it is "only" a fly. |
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| hondacuraworld |
| I hadn't intended on getting into a parenting discussion on this.....different strokes for different folks. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by Maik
Not so valuable lesson to a five year old to teach him how to be cruel.
Does not matter that it is "only" a fly.
Then we wonder how come our kids have become so pussified.
Sorry Maik, flies have no socially or morally redeeming values in my book. |
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| cp_ssrebba |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Then we wonder how come our kids have become so pussified.
Sorry Maik, flies have no socially or morally redeeming values in my book.
May wanna think again. They have some uses when they are young
http://www.bterfoundation.org/indexfiles/MDT.htm
Maybe all things have reasons but we just dont know yet.
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by hondacuraworld
I hadn't intended on getting into a parenting discussion on this.....different strokes for different folks.
Then you should not have brought it up.
Sounds like a real bonding experience. |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Then we wonder how come our kids have become so pussified.
Sorry Maik, flies have no socially or morally redeeming values in my book.
You wonder why our kids are "pussified"? Care to explain that?
Are you saying that only a real man would torture an insect, simply for not having any worth to you?
I am certainly not arguing that flys are welcome in my home, but I absolutely think that to go out one's way to torture them is really quite sick. And to teach that to an impressionable child is absolutely nuts. |
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| hondacuraworld |
| No need for popcorn, I'm out of this. Maik can post all he want thinking he is right from this point on, I have nothing to prove to him or anyone. |
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| zafer |
| Thats neat. I think my boy and I will try it with fireflies ;) |
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| socalJD |
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Originally posted by zafer
Thats neat. I think my boy and I will try it with fireflies ;)
And in the process, don't forget to take lots of pix and post a step by step accounting of the event. Similar to your 'HID how to' thread, we want to make sure that Newbies can confidently follow along at home . . . :D :D :D |
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| pusilon |
| they must be bored counting flies. :) :27: |
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| mdx99 |
Make sure you don't catch the West Niles by mistakes!
Maybe I have lived in this country for too long, I do agree that it's too cruel to freeze any insect alive, not a good lesson for the 5 years old.
Well, it's a free country afterall.
Don't give this idea to the evil suicide bombers in the East!:p |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by Maik
You wonder why our kids are "pussified"? Care to explain that?
Absolutely. We're making them too soft.
For example. . .
-Not allowing kids to dodgeball because it promotes violence.
-Not allowing children to be held back a grade because it might be too detrimental to their development.
-Not allowing kids to play videogames like Grand Theft Auto because it might turn them into juvenille delinquints.
-Changing the original Bugs Bunny Cartoons because they were too violent.
The problem is, all of these "nice and happy things" aren't preparing them for the actual world outside. If you don't want them exposed to violence and torture, then you shouldn't let them watch the evening news. There's probably more stories of killing and torture everynight to "F" them up for a lifetime.
If you actually think letting a child watch flies get glued to a piece of stick is detrimental to his development, then stick Johnny in a box until he turns twenty-one, then let him loose on the world. Let's see how well adjusted your kid in the box turns out as a opposed to my kids. |
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| zafer |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
... stick Johnny in a box until he turns twenty-one, then let him loose on the world.
Hahahaha..... Have a couple friends like this, still living with their parents :rolleyes: |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Absolutely. We're making them too soft.
For example. . .
-Not allowing kids to dodgeball because it promotes violence.
-Not allowing children to be held back a grade because it might be too detrimental to their development.
-Not allowing kids to play videogames like Grand Theft Auto because it might turn them into juvenille delinquints.
-Changing the original Bugs Bunny Cartoons because they were too violent.
The problem is, all of these "nice and happy things" aren't preparing them for the actual world outside. If you don't want them exposed to violence and torture, then you shouldn't let them watch the evening news. There's probably more stories of killing and torture everynight to "F" them up for a lifetime.
If you actually think letting a child watch flies get glued to a piece of stick is detrimental to his development, then stick Johnny in a box until he turns twenty-one, then let him loose on the world. Let's see how well adjusted your kid in the box turns out as a opposed to my kids.
I taught my kids to respect ALL life. And, although we eat meat, fish and poultry, I would never have taught them to take any pleasure in torture or death of any living creature, no matter how insignificant that life might seem to us. The result, is that I have three well adjusted kids (adults now) that are caring, kind and above all compassionate. There is a huge difference between teaching kids about the violence and torture around us, and actually participating, even at this level. |
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| msu79gt82 |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
-Not allowing kids to play videogames like Grand Theft Auto because it might turn them into juvenille delinquints.
I understand your point and agree with it - however this is a bad example. The publishers of Grand Theft Auto have admitted to embedding porn in their latest game that can be unblocked by internet codes. This is irresponsible and I hope the company is put out of business. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by msu79gt82
I understand your point and agree with it - however this is a bad example. The publishers of Grand Theft Auto have admitted to embedding porn in their latest game that can be unblocked by internet codes. This is irresponsible and I hope the company is put out of business.
How come we don't say the same thing about the evening news and daily newspaper agencies who constantly want to put us in a state of fear?
Don't they love to lead with the bloodiest and raunchiest topics. But put it in a videogame, then it's a problem. |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
How come we don't say the same thing about the evening news and daily newspaper agencies who constantly want to put us in a state of fear?
Don't they love to lead with the bloodiest and raunchiest topics. But put it in a videogame, then it's a problem.
labor, its porn - hardcore porn. In their latest GTA: San Andeas they PURPOSELY put hidden porn (characters get naked and engage in explicit sex). Hide this stuff in the game and then sell it to unsuspecting folks - you can't seriously condone that? The violence in the game is up front with no surprises.
As I said, I agree with your principle - but not this specific example. I suspect the publishers are going to be in deep do-do. Even Hillary is after their a$$. |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
How come we don't say the same thing about the evening news and daily newspaper agencies who constantly want to put us in a state of fear?
Don't they love to lead with the bloodiest and raunchiest topics. But put it in a videogame, then it's a problem.
You don't really think it is to put the public in a state of fear, do you?
The only reason is because it sells! |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
labor, its porn - hardcore porn. In their latest GTA: San Andeas they PURPOSELY put hidden porn (characters get naked and engage in explicit sex). Hide this stuff in the game and then sell it to unsuspecting folks - you can't seriously condone that? The violence in the game is up front with no surprises.
As I said, I agree with your principle - but not this specific example. I suspect the publishers are going to be in deep do-do. Even Hillary is after their a$$.
Even though I have the game, I didn't know about that option. But what was the rating on the game itself? Was it mature only? I assume it was.
Then is should give you some sort of hint as to what to expect. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
You don't really think it is to put the public in a state of fear, do you?
The only reason is because it sells!
Maik,
Wait for the next "killer" snowstorm. Let's see how many specials they have on "Blizzard of 06". Watch how they try to scare people into staying tuned to the TV. If you don't think that fear (as well as sex) sells, then you're a bit naive. |
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| cp_ssrebba |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Even though I have the game, I didn't know about that option. But what was the rating on the game itself? Was it mature only? I assume it was.
Then is should give you some sort of hint as to what to expect.
It was M before and now its Adult Only (after the discovery).
Meaning many stores will not carry.
drug use, carjacking, killing are ok for kids but not sex? :) |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by cp_ssrebba
drug use, carjacking, killing are ok for kids but not sex? :)
The first three things are on the news every night. . . :D |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Maik,
Wait for the next "killer" snowstorm. Let's see how many specials they have on "Blizzard of 06". Watch how they try to scare people into staying tuned to the TV. If you don't think that fear (as well as sex) sells, then you're a bit naive.
Of course sex sells. But your premise was that the violence on the news teasers was to promote fear in the viewers. This, I do not agree with. It may be sensationalism and exagerated, but not "fearful".
We are, however, getting off topic. In my opinion, your orig statement that our youth are becoming sissies because they are to sheltered from violence is preposterious.
I just hope that one of your kids does not come home from school all beaten up one day because some bullies decided to use him/her as a target in a game of dodgeball. But, maybe that would toughen them up. After all bullies are a part of life. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
Of course sex sells. But your premise was that the violence on the news teasers was to promote fear in the viewers. This, I do not agree with. It may be sensationalism and exagerated, but not "fearful".
We are, however, getting off topic. In my opinion, your orig statement that our youth are becoming sissies because they are to sheltered from violence is preposterious.
I just hope that one of your kids does not come home from school all beaten up one day because some bullies decided to use him/her as a target in a game of dodgeball. But, maybe that would toughen them up. After all bullies are a part of life.
I would want my girls to fight back if it was to defend themselves. Otherwise, they'll both have "welcome" on their foreheads.
If you show you are willing to fight back, bullies generally tend to back off.
Look at Kleebold and Harris in Columbine. Perhaps if they had a little more backbone in their formative years, they would not have had to resort to such desperate tactics as teens. |
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| msu79gt82 |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Even though I have the game, I didn't know about that option. But what was the rating on the game itself? Was it mature only? I assume it was.
Then is should give you some sort of hint as to what to expect.
I'm confused - are you defending this game with its secret unadvertised porn as a way of toughening up our kids :confused:
IF you are defending this ONE PARTICULAR game in spite of its false advertising and blatantly objectionable HIDDEN material as a way to make our kids better people THEN I guess I'll have to retract my agreeing with you :rolleyes: |
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
Look at Kleebold and Harris in Columbine. Perhaps if they had a little more backbone in their formative years, they would not have had to resort to such desperate tactics as teens.
And you called me naive??? You think they needed more backbone??
Have a great weekend...its Millah time. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
I'm confused - are you defending this game with its secret unadvertised porn as a way of toughening up our kids :confused:
IF you are defending this ONE PARTICULAR game in spite of its false advertising and blatantly objectionable HIDDEN material as a way to make our kids better people THEN I guess I'll have to retract my agreeing with you :rolleyes:
I don't think I am defending the game for having hidden porn. My point was that I wasn't too surprised since it already had a mature rating.
As for the toughening up children, the videogame argument was not applicable. That was just one of our examples of how we over protect our children. |
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| laborlitigator |
quote:
Originally posted by Maik
And you called me naive??? You think they needed more backbone??
Have a great weekend...its Millah time.
You don't think those two weren't walking timebombs after being subjected to years of abuse from jocks? |
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| dj-mdx2 |
| So what are fly swatters for? And bug spray and soap and antibacterial wipes? And where do you think the wonder drugs you take are tested on? Literally every breath you take, you will have inhaled microorganisms that your immune system decimates dispassionately and without mercy. Every time you wash your hands at McDonalds (if you can find a clean bathroom that is), you knowingly or unknowingly perform genocide on entire colonies of microbes. The history of humankind is rife with examples of both acts of extreme cruelty and unconditional compassion. Just something to think about since people are getting so touchy on these boards nowadays... |
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| ByeByeChrysler |
quote:
Originally posted by msu79gt82
labor, its porn - hardcore porn. In their latest GTA: San Andeas they PURPOSELY put hidden porn (characters get naked and engage in explicit sex). Hide this stuff in the game and then sell it to unsuspecting folks - you can't seriously condone that? The violence in the game is up front with no surprises.
As I said, I agree with your principle - but not this specific example. I suspect the publishers are going to be in deep do-do. Even Hillary is after their a$$.
My understanding is that the publisher did not purposely add porn to their top selling game.
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, as originally marketed and sold, was intended for mature audiences - those 17 and older - and was labeled with five ESRB content descriptors: blood and gore, intense violence, strong language, strong sexual content and use of drugs. The title's M rating combined with the content descriptors reflected the game's mature themes. After it was widely reported that a third party modification could alter the retail version of the game on all platforms, the ESRB re-rated the title from "Mature 17+" (M) to "Adults Only 18+" (AO).
a third party somehow discovered the code to add this 'hot coffee' thing. |
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| nightguy |
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Originally posted by ByeByeChrysler
My understanding is that the publisher did not purposely add porn to their top selling game.
a third party somehow discovered the code to add this 'hot coffee' thing.
Nope. http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.ga...eo.game.sex.ap/
Rockstar's parent, Take Two Interactive, also admitted for the first time Wednesday that the sex scenes had been built into the retail game -- not just the PC version but also those written for Xbox and PlayStation2 consoles.
Company officials had previously suggested that a modification created by outsiders added the scenes to the game, last year's best seller in consoles.
"There is sex content in the disc," Take-Two spokesman Jim Ankner told The Associated Press. "The editing and finalization of any game is a complicated task and it's not uncommon for unused and unfinished content to remain on the disc."
In other news...Madden 2006 is out ! :cool: |
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| scoobs |
| I have step by step instructions for attaching live frogs to plastic submarine models. You should see them go. On a scale basis those subs are doing about 120 knots under water.:D |
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| ByeByeChrysler |
scoobs
I miss your avatar:D you know, since the Hottest Thong thread disappeared. |
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| scoobs |
quote:
Originally posted by ByeByeChrysler
scoobs
I miss your avatar:D you know, since the Hottest Thong thread disappeared.
It's been a while since I've bounced in here but this thread caught my attention. Back in '88 in I knew a guy who used to fish for seagulls at RCYC ( that's Royal Canadian Yacht Club for you fureners ). He'd attach a french fry to the end of his fishing line and wait for a seagull to drop down to pick up the fry. He'd let the seagull fly away and take 100' of line, give or take, before he'd reel him in. Needless to say he was kicked out of RCYC. |
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| RipRocK |
Speaking of "toy" planes, I was wondering if someone happens to recall a post in this forum about a radio controlled plane/hovercraft? I've been trying to search for it, but keep on coming up empty.
The post contained a link for the said plane and a video was available there. The video showed the RC toy as a hovercraft over water, then taking off to double as an airplane. If someone is able to provide either the link for the plane website or the query link for the search, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks for your time and courtesy. |
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| scoobs |
| Ripper, I think that was Hondapilot.org |
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| RipRocK |
quote:
Originally posted by scoobs
Ripper, I think that was Hondapilot.org
No $hit? DOH! That's too funny. Thanks, Scoobs and oh, btw, I got that letter today from Honda as well. |
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| Sinecure |
| I want one too. Cool toy. |
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| ByeByeChrysler |
quote:
Originally posted by RipRocK
oh, btw, I got that letter today from Honda as well.
Ditto!, I got mine this week.
And last week, I was at Sherway complaining about it.
They thought it might have been the tranny, no mention of the EGR. |
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| RipRocK |
quote:
Originally posted by ByeByeChrysler
Ditto!, I got mine this week.
And last week, I was at Sherway complaining about it.
They thought it might have been the tranny, no mention of the EGR.
When my EGR valve was malfunctioning, it sure felt as though the tranny was the source of the symptoms. They included, surging and hesitating when trying to shift from the 2nd and the 3rd gear. And in some cases, when it did shift into 3rd, it did so with a very loud and bone jarring thud. It was very unpleasant and disconcerting to say the least. But also, my car would vibrate wildly at around the 100KM/H mark.
I don't know if you've been experiencing something similar, but if it's the EGR valve, hope it'll throw a code soon for you. None of the dealers in this town wanted to take it in to diagnose the problem and wanted me to wait for a code.
But when it did, it was determined that the EGR valve was not lifting properly, so it was replaced and there was not a trace of the symptoms afterwards. |
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| RipRocK |
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Originally posted by scoobs
Now this is a plane, or is it a boat, or a flying boat?
http://www.alldumb.com/item/12270/
Awesome, Scoobs. Thanks for the link. Got it bookmarked now. I still couldn't find the thread over at h-p.org, but don't matter now. Thanks again. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Where the heck can I buy that thing?` |
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| komondor |
found this
Hydro-Foam: R/C Flying Boat
Hydro-Foam: R/C Flying Boat: This R/C flying boat is the coolest looking tech toy that I've seen in a long time. I want one, but it's not for sale yet. After you check-out the video, I'm certain you'll want one too!
"The Hydro-Foam is a remote control electric airplane powered by a brushless motor and lithium-polymer batteries. It's not a beginner airplane.
We are working on getting the Hydro-Foam kits ready for production, but there is no pre-order list. They should be available world wide in the near future."
Don't email Michael Connally with questions about the Hydro-Foam: R/C Flying Boat, he's ready to blow his CPU!
http://michaelconnally.com/ |
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