| mzemanek |
| I just got a new MDX last week. I called XM Radio with the Promotion Code ZWINBACKMYP1 and the guy could not find it. Does anyone know if it expired? Any New Code? |
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| Sooner in FL |
| XM figured it out. NO GO here. |
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| Acura MDXer |
I was able to renew my subscription using the following information
1-800-929-2100
ZWINBACKMYP1
I mentioned that my wife recieved the code, although I was not sure how she got it. I was able to reenew it on 8-25..
Maybe I was lucky?? |
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| Sooner in FL |
quote:
Originally posted by Acura MDXer
I was able to renew my subscription using the following information
1-800-929-2100
ZWINBACKMYP1
I mentioned that my wife recieved the code, although I was not sure how she got it. I was able to reenew it on 8-25..
Maybe I was lucky??
Yes you are... I will try again. |
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| dpham |
quote:
Originally posted by Acura MDXer
I was able to renew my subscription using the following information
1-800-929-2100
ZWINBACKMYP1
I mentioned that my wife recieved the code, although I was not sure how she got it. I was able to reenew it on 8-25..
Maybe I was lucky??
Thanks for the tip. I got lucky too and was able to get it with the promo code. |
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| anjan |
You are lucky. I could not get them off my back!! Kept insisting that @ $12.95 a month its the deal of year. So I suggested that they stop the ads and I'll pay them 42c a month. That didn't go over too well either :2:
So then I said that the service is worthless since I listen the thousands of songs I have on my iPod. The sales rep did not know what an iPod is!!!!!! Are they outsourcing their calling to Mars? :confused: |
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| dpham |
quote:
Originally posted by anjan
You are lucky. I could not get them off my back!! Kept insisting that @ $12.95 a month its the deal of year. So I suggested that they stop the ads and I'll pay them 42c a month. That didn't go over too well either :2:
So then I said that the service is worthless since I listen the thousands of songs I have on my iPod. The sales rep did not know what an iPod is!!!!!! Are they outsourcing their calling to Mars? :confused:
You might want to keep calling. Maybe you'll get lucky with the next rep. |
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| mzemanek |
| I used the 2100 number and got someone who knew about the promo code. They said that I have to wait until my free 3 months is over. I guess the free 3 months with the new MDX is also a promo, and they can only associate one promotion with a customer at a time. I guess I'll call back when my free trail is over. |
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| dpham |
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Originally posted by mzemanek
I used the 2100 number and got someone who knew about the promo code. They said that I have to wait until my free 3 months is over. I guess the free 3 months with the new MDX is also a promo, and they can only associate one promotion with a customer at a time. I guess I'll call back when my free trail is over.
I'm still in my 3 month trial period and I was able to sign up for 1 year subscription with the promotion code. You might want to try calling back. |
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| Acura MDXer |
| I was able to renew my subscription at the end of the second month, so I still had a month to go on the free trial. She confirmed that I am fully paid for 13 months. :) |
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| pusilon |
| is this the promo code for $60 for a year? |
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| Acura MDXer |
No, the $60 a year is long gone. This promo code is for the $77 a year, which breaks down to $6.42 a month, which is still a lot cheaper than $12.95 a month. ;~)
Good luck, and remember that you might have to try several times before you are able to get a salesperson that is willing to take the code. I was lucky, and got it on my first time calling, but their are others that had to call 4 (or more) times before they got it a person that would take the code. |
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| Orgen1 |
I call today (Mine expired two weks ago) I ask about the promotion $77 a year, he checked and say OK that's it.
I have my XM back for $77 a year. |
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| mzemanek |
I GOT IT!!!! He just asked "What Promotion Code?" and when I gave him the winback promo he said "No Problem". It was actually $81.62, but I assume that tax is added on.....
I'm a big NHL fan and they announce a 10 year contract with the NHL today..... That just stopped my migration to sirius... |
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| LabMeister |
quote:
Originally posted by Acura MDXer
I was able to renew my subscription using the following information
1-800-929-2100
ZWINBACKMYP1
I mentioned that my wife recieved the code, although I was not sure how she got it. I was able to reenew it on 8-25..
Maybe I was lucky??
Just renewed about 10 minutes ago. Used the same promo code and the rep gave it to me for $77 + tax which came out to $81.62. Rep asked for the radio code, told her don't have it handy and just used my full name/home phone #. Thanks. |
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| Acura MDXer |
LabMeister , mzemanek, Orgen1
Thats great news... IT sounds like they are still taking the code. I am glad that I was able to help a few MDXer's out!!!
This is a Great Forum |
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| rajivarora |
Same here. Still have 6 weeks on free trial. Called and got the promo on first attempt. $77 + tax. 12 months start after my 3 months are up.
-Rajiv |
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| anjan |
| Its amazing how many people pay for radio WITH commercials :2: and fight to get a "good rate". I want to see how many people will keep doing that, now that Acura is coming out with the iPod connector... |
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| MDteX |
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Originally posted by anjan
Its amazing how many people pay for radio WITH commercials :2: and fight to get a "good rate". I want to see how many people will keep doing that, now that Acura is coming out with the iPod connector...
Do you pay for a newspaper or magazine? Do you pay for satellite TV or cable? They have commercials. Lots of commercials. XM is no different. But my one experience with XM was at a cabin I rented this summer. I heard no commercials just great music. |
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| MDteX |
quote:
Originally posted by anjan
Its amazing how many people pay for radio WITH commercials :2: and fight to get a "good rate". I want to see how many people will keep doing that, now that Acura is coming out with the iPod connector...
Do you pay for a newspaper or magazine? Do you pay for satellite TV or cable? They have commercials. Lots of commercials. XM is no different. But my one experience with XM was at a cabin I rented this summer. I heard no commercials just great music. |
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| anjan |
quote:
Originally posted by MDteX
Do you pay for a newspaper or magazine? Do you pay for satellite TV or cable? They have commercials. Lots of commercials. XM is no different. But my one experience with XM was at a cabin I rented this summer. I heard no commercials just great music.
I don't pay for ANY service that advertises itself as "commercial free" music and then plays advertisements of itself and some woman named Wendi who gives financial advise! Must be a different XM you were listening to.
Also, the programming was pathetic at best. I used to channel surf like there was no tomorrow when I had it during the trial period. No wonder they are furiously trying to retain subscribers. Both are deep in the red. XM's satellites are suffering from what the firm's 10-Q calls "progressive degradation" of their solar power circuitry. XM has insurance, but the insurance company doesn't want to pay. Undaunted, XM says it will launch a "spare" satellite later this year and another in 2007. XM subscriber fees of $12.95 a month will pay for this? Meanwhile, Sirius's 10-Q says the company needs two million subscribers to reach cash flow break-even by the second quarter of 2005.
Also, look at the future of the technology. Do you really think Clear Channel will let satellite radio steal the future? According to XM's latest 10-Q, XM "leases sites for its terrestrial repeaters from Clear Channel Communications." Terrestrial repeaters boost XM's signal from the Earth's surface, supplementing the signal from space. XM won't get far depending on its enemies.
Now consider Surround Sound 5.1. Stereo sound in vehicles hasn't appreciably improved in 20 years. Just wait until the Surround Sound we hear on our DVDs comes to vehicles. It's already in the 2004 Acura TL. Columbia, Md.-based iBiquity Digital is the hand behind digital radio, also known as HD Radio. Formed in August 2000, iBiquity is backed by Clear Channel Communications, Viacom Inc., Harris, and Texas Instruments.
The term "digital radio" refers to the digital versions of the analog AM and FM signals we grew up with. Almost 80 U.S. analog stations have transitioned to digital; more will switch as automakers migrate to factory-installed digital radios. Audio after-market leaders Alpine, Kenwood and many, many more are set to go. Even Ford Motor is an iBiquity investor--and Ford has a deal with Sirius.
If this doesn't tell you how many holes are in the satellite radio's business model, nothing will. The future belongs to compressed music on MP3 players and digital radio that will be available free of cost. |
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| csimo |
quote:
Originally posted by anjan
I don't pay for ANY service that advertises itself as "commercial free" music and then plays advertisements of itself and some woman named Wendi who gives financial advise! Must be a different XM you were listening to.
Also, the programming was pathetic at best. I used to channel surf like there was no tomorrow when I had it during the trial period. No wonder they are furiously trying to retain subscribers. Both are deep in the red. XM's satellites are suffering from what the firm's 10-Q calls "progressive degradation" of their solar power circuitry. XM has insurance, but the insurance company doesn't want to pay. Undaunted, XM says it will launch a "spare" satellite later this year and another in 2007. XM subscriber fees of $12.95 a month will pay for this? Meanwhile, Sirius's 10-Q says the company needs two million subscribers to reach cash flow break-even by the second quarter of 2005.
Also, look at the future of the technology. Do you really think Clear Channel will let satellite radio steal the future? According to XM's latest 10-Q, XM "leases sites for its terrestrial repeaters from Clear Channel Communications." Terrestrial repeaters boost XM's signal from the Earth's surface, supplementing the signal from space. XM won't get far depending on its enemies.
Now consider Surround Sound 5.1. Stereo sound in vehicles hasn't appreciably improved in 20 years. Just wait until the Surround Sound we hear on our DVDs comes to vehicles. It's already in the 2004 Acura TL. Columbia, Md.-based iBiquity Digital is the hand behind digital radio, also known as HD Radio. Formed in August 2000, iBiquity is backed by Clear Channel Communications, Viacom Inc., Harris, and Texas Instruments.
The term "digital radio" refers to the digital versions of the analog AM and FM signals we grew up with. Almost 80 U.S. analog stations have transitioned to digital; more will switch as automakers migrate to factory-installed digital radios. Audio after-market leaders Alpine, Kenwood and many, many more are set to go. Even Ford Motor is an iBiquity investor--and Ford has a deal with Sirius.
If this doesn't tell you how many holes are in the satellite radio's business model, nothing will. The future belongs to compressed music on MP3 players and digital radio that will be available free of cost.
I have XM service... never listened to Sirius. Before getting XM I was positive that satellite based subscription radio would fail. Perhaps both XM and Sirius will fail, but I'm now convinced that satellite based radio will put traditional terrestrial based radio out of business for the most part.
I believe the music side of terrestrial radio will be the first to exit the industry. The local talk radio stations will be much more resilient to the satellite based options.
I would hate to be in the traditional FM radio business right now. The future looks very dim for them in my eyes.
The quality of satellite based systems will continue to improve. The format of the channels will evolve. The result is that a traditional FM station will not be able to compete with the satellite options.
XM is certainly not perfect. There are talks about a "free" commercial based satellite radio service on the horizon. This all adds up to a major change in the industry. Hundreds (thousands?) of local FM stations will be gone in favor of major nationwide superstations.
Just my opinion. I did a 180 on this after realizing how much potential the satellite based services have... but I still wouldn't buy their stock. I believe the shareholders have paid for an expensive infrastructure but that someone else may enjoy the benefits.
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| MDteX |
quote:
Originally posted by anjan
I don't pay for ANY service that advertises itself as "commercial free" music and then plays advertisements of itself and some woman named Wendi who gives financial advise! Must be a different XM you were listening to.
Also, the programming was pathetic at best. I used to channel surf like there was no tomorrow when I had it during the trial period. No wonder they are furiously trying to retain subscribers. Both are deep in the red. XM's satellites are suffering from what the firm's 10-Q calls "progressive degradation" of their solar power circuitry. XM has insurance, but the insurance company doesn't want to pay. Undaunted, XM says it will launch a "spare" satellite later this year and another in 2007. XM subscriber fees of $12.95 a month will pay for this? Meanwhile, Sirius's 10-Q says the company needs two million subscribers to reach cash flow break-even by the second quarter of 2005.
Also, look at the future of the technology. Do you really think Clear Channel will let satellite radio steal the future? According to XM's latest 10-Q, XM "leases sites for its terrestrial repeaters from Clear Channel Communications." Terrestrial repeaters boost XM's signal from the Earth's surface, supplementing the signal from space. XM won't get far depending on its enemies.
Now consider Surround Sound 5.1. Stereo sound in vehicles hasn't appreciably improved in 20 years. Just wait until the Surround Sound we hear on our DVDs comes to vehicles. It's already in the 2004 Acura TL. Columbia, Md.-based iBiquity Digital is the hand behind digital radio, also known as HD Radio. Formed in August 2000, iBiquity is backed by Clear Channel Communications, Viacom Inc., Harris, and Texas Instruments.
The term "digital radio" refers to the digital versions of the analog AM and FM signals we grew up with. Almost 80 U.S. analog stations have transitioned to digital; more will switch as automakers migrate to factory-installed digital radios. Audio after-market leaders Alpine, Kenwood and many, many more are set to go. Even Ford Motor is an iBiquity investor--and Ford has a deal with Sirius.
If this doesn't tell you how many holes are in the satellite radio's business model, nothing will. The future belongs to compressed music on MP3 players and digital radio that will be available free of cost.
Are you off your :soapbox: now?
I heard the commercials with a trial version. With the subscription service there were none. |
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| csimo |
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Originally posted by MDteX
Are you off your :soapbox: now?
I heard the commercials with a trial version. With the subscription service there were none.
This wasn't addressed to me, but I want to chime in anyway.
First off the three month trial is no different than the paid service... or at least it wasn't any different for the three I've been thru.
It depends on what you consider a "commercial". Do they play ads for Tide or Honda on the "commercial free" channels? No.
The certainly play a BUNCH of promos for XM, other XM channels, XM events, XM this, XM that, blah, blah, blah. Are those commercials? In my opinion YES. Any they play a bunch of them.
-Joe |
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| allanbiats |
Both Sirius and XM have recently been approved to provide service to Canadian customers, so their subscriber bases should increase at a faster pace now. With the increased subscriber bases, they should have more money available for improvements to their systems also.
I have subscribed to XM since 2003 and I've noticed that the music channels have better sound clarity than the talk channels. I think I read that they allocate more bandwidth to the music channels than talk channels.
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| mzemanek |
SPORTS, SPORTS, SPORTS.... I pay over a thousand a year for the NFL, NHL, and MLB tickets and sports channels on directv. They play commercials too.
I have both Sirius and XM. I prefer the Sirius music, but now that the NHL joins MLB on XM, I'll keep both.
I don't think you can compare XM ads for itself with FM Commercials... It would be nice to have nothing but straingt music on the music channels though. It's like when you go to the movies and they play ads before the movie.
Once sporting event or concert event today costs more than a years worth of sat radio. |
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| csimo |
quote:
Originally posted by mzemanek
I don't think you can compare XM ads for itself with FM Commercials... It would be nice to have nothing but straingt music on the music channels though. It's like when you go to the movies and they play ads before the movie.
No, I'm not comparing the XM promo's to FM commercials, but I am saying that when XM says "commercial free" I consider them liars. |
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| MDteX |
quote:
Originally posted by csimo
This wasn't addressed to me, but I want to chime in anyway.
First off the three month trial is no different than the paid service... or at least it wasn't any different for the three I've been thru.
It depends on what you consider a "commercial". Do they play ads for Tide or Honda on the "commercial free" channels? No.
The certainly play a BUNCH of promos for XM, other XM channels, XM events, XM this, XM that, blah, blah, blah. Are those commercials? In my opinion YES. Any they play a bunch of them.
-Joe
That is different to what I've encountered but I'm not a subscriber. My main experience with XM is a weeklong stay at a remote cabin that had XM. We listened to it everyday and night and I don't remember hearing a commercial for XM. I thought it was strange since the loaner car I get has XM and always advertises itself. :confused: |
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| anjan |
quote:
Originally posted by MDteX
Are you off your :soapbox: now?
I heard the commercials with a trial version. With the subscription service there were none.
Intelligent reply to market analysis based on opinions of numerous market analysts. There's nothing like a lucid expression of logical thought :2: |
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| Dog |
I first tried the promo when my trial subscription was still active and was told no good until my trial was over.
Well, my trial expired a month or so ago. Called this number today 1-800-643-6029 and got the $77 deal no problem. Told her I received the promotion in an e-mail (partially true, I had received a 3 month promotion e-mail at $6.95 per month). She didn't ask for a code. No tax, no "reactivation fee".:) |
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| Jim03MDX |
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Originally posted by Dog
Called this number today 1-800-643-6029 and got the $77 deal no problem. Told her I received the promotion in an e-mail (partially true, I had received a 3 month promotion e-mail at $6.95 per month). She didn't ask for a code. No tax, no "reactivation fee".:)
:bingo: Thanks!!! Just called to renew my TL. Although he had to talk to his supervisor, I got the $77/year deal. |
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| anjan |
quote:
Originally posted by csimo
I believe the music side of terrestrial radio will be the first to exit the industry. The local talk radio stations will be much more resilient to the satellite based options.
-Joe
Here's the problem in your theory. If you read XM and Sirius' 10-Q filed with the SEC (as I mentioned in the earlier response), the quality of their service is attained with radio repeater, majority of which are owned by ClearChannel. Currently, neither of the satellite companies have the cojones to buy all the signal enhancers.
Now consider that terrestial radio is sticking around (you'll know what I mean when you hear the 5.1 Dolby Surround of HDRadio), if they stop leasing their repeaters to XM and Sirius, they'd be in serious hurt. Don't forget that ClearChannel is way more financially potent and is not going to sit idly by. |
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| allanbiats |
quote:
Originally posted by anjan
Here's the problem in your theory. If you read XM and Sirius' 10-Q filed with the SEC (as I mentioned in the earlier response), the quality of their service is attained with radio repeater, majority of which are owned by ClearChannel. Currently, neither of the satellite companies have the cojones to buy all the signal enhancers.
Now consider that terrestial radio is sticking around (you'll know what I mean when you hear the 5.1 Dolby Surround of HDRadio), if they stop leasing their repeaters to XM and Sirius, they'd be in serious hurt. Don't forget that ClearChannel is way more financially potent and is not going to sit idly by.
My understanding is that the terrestial repeaters are used in areas where a clear line of site to the satellites is not steady, such as in larger cities where buildings and heavily wooded trees might interfere, and they are not needed in open areas, like along the interstate.
Another thing to keep in mind is that Clear Channel is an equity partner in XM Radio, as mentioned on this page at XM:
http://www.xmradio.com/corporate_in...ation_main.html
and I copied this sentence:
XM's powerful strategic and equity partners are leaders in their respective industries. These include General Motors, the largest U.S. auto and truck manufacturer; American Honda; Clear Channel, the largest U.S. radio station operator.
So it appears that Clear Channel is an equity partner with XM. Granted, I can't tell if they are a happy partner and looking to bail, but they are a partner. Maybe just hedging their bets?
What I didn't know before reading their site in detail is that they have a Corporate Office in Nakaku, Yokohama in Japan. I wonder why they would have a Corprate Office in Japan, unless they are trying to expand and sell subscription service there also?
I also read in one place that XM had launched their third satellite in February 2005, but no second confirmation yet.
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| MDteX |
quote:
Originally posted by anjan
I don't pay for ANY service that advertises itself as "commercial free" music and then plays advertisements of itself and some woman named Wendi who gives financial advise! Must be a different XM you were listening to.
Also, the programming was pathetic at best. I used to channel surf like there was no tomorrow when I had it during the trial period. No wonder they are furiously trying to retain subscribers. Both are deep in the red. XM's satellites are suffering from what the firm's 10-Q calls "progressive degradation" of their solar power circuitry. XM has insurance, but the insurance company doesn't want to pay. Undaunted, XM says it will launch a "spare" satellite later this year and another in 2007. XM subscriber fees of $12.95 a month will pay for this? Meanwhile, Sirius's 10-Q says the company needs two million subscribers to reach cash flow break-even by the second quarter of 2005.
Also, look at the future of the technology. Do you really think Clear Channel will let satellite radio steal the future? According to XM's latest 10-Q, XM "leases sites for its terrestrial repeaters from Clear Channel Communications." Terrestrial repeaters boost XM's signal from the Earth's surface, supplementing the signal from space. XM won't get far depending on its enemies.
Now consider Surround Sound 5.1. Stereo sound in vehicles hasn't appreciably improved in 20 years. Just wait until the Surround Sound we hear on our DVDs comes to vehicles. It's already in the 2004 Acura TL. Columbia, Md.-based iBiquity Digital is the hand behind digital radio, also known as HD Radio. Formed in August 2000, iBiquity is backed by Clear Channel Communications, Viacom Inc., Harris, and Texas Instruments.
The term "digital radio" refers to the digital versions of the analog AM and FM signals we grew up with. Almost 80 U.S. analog stations have transitioned to digital; more will switch as automakers migrate to factory-installed digital radios. Audio after-market leaders Alpine, Kenwood and many, many more are set to go. Even Ford Motor is an iBiquity investor--and Ford has a deal with Sirius.
If this doesn't tell you how many holes are in the satellite radio's business model, nothing will. The future belongs to compressed music on MP3 players and digital radio that will be available free of cost.
On one of the Directv channels (a fee based channel with commercials) this weekend I saw the "Wall Street Journal Weekend Report" and their story was satellite radio and they talked with XM and Sirius. I didn't record it to get the exact words but in essence WSJ says they are just fine--quite a different view than the analyst you referred to.
Also the company and WSJ stated that the music channels are commercial free which is what I have experienced. |
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| anjan |
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Originally posted by MDteX
On one of the Directv channels (a fee based channel with commercials) this weekend I saw the "Wall Street Journal Weekend Report" and their story was satellite radio and they talked with XM and Sirius. I didn't record it to get the exact words but in essence WSJ says they are just fine--quite a different view than the analyst you referred to.
Also the company and WSJ stated that the music channels are commercial free which is what I have experienced.
Extent of commercials on XM
About.com users complain about XM commercials
And if you have any doubt about XM performing wonderfully, have a look at their financial performance. Still haven't had a positive earnings per share. Irrespective of what anyone says, a company that is supposedly dominating its industry cannot be in the red all the time. First, they can learn how to make money and then maybe hope to catch a share of market they want to dominate :) |
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| carguy1234 |
Maybe someone could start an "I hate satellite radio, here's why" thread, and then move these posts there. I think that would be an entertaining topic for a while.
People come to this thread to learn about the XM promotion currently being offered, but instead get to read diatribes on the merits of the service. |
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| MDteX |
quote:
Originally posted by anjan
Extent of commercials on XM
About.com users complain about XM commercials
And if you have any doubt about XM performing wonderfully, have a look at their financial performance. Still haven't had a positive earnings per share. Irrespective of what anyone says, a company that is supposedly dominating its industry cannot be in the red all the time. First, they can learn how to make money and then maybe hope to catch a share of market they want to dominate :)
Thanks for proving my point with one of your posts.
Update—as of Feb 1, 2004, XM has gone commercial free on a majority of its music stations. |
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| csimo |
quote:
Originally posted by MDteX
Thanks for proving my point with one of your posts.
Update—as of Feb 1, 2004, XM has gone commercial free on a majority of its music stations.
I don't know what XM you listen to, but every XM channel has commercials for other XM channels (XM calls them "promos"). You must just not pay attention to them, or your brain is blocking them out, but either way they are there.
This has been well documented in hundreds of articles.
http://radio.about.com/od/xmsatelli...a/aa022405a.htm
Sirius has quite a few 100% commercial free channels, but not XM.
Facts are facts even if you don't want to believe them.
-Joe |
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| MDteX |
quote:
Originally posted by csimo
I don't know what XM you listen to, but every XM channel has commercials for other XM channels (XM calls them "promos"). You must just not pay attention to them, or your brain is blocking them out, but either way they are there.
This has been well documented in hundreds of articles.
http://radio.about.com/od/xmsatelli...a/aa022405a.htm
Sirius has quite a few 100% commercial free channels, but not XM.
Facts are facts even if you don't want to believe them.
-Joe
Facts are facts and the fact is I have never heard one. I will believe my own ears over someone elses's post. Just read the link you posted. Nuff said. |
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| pianoman41 |
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Originally posted by MDteX
Facts are facts and the fact is I have never heard one. I will believe my own ears over someone elses's post. Just read the link you posted. Nuff said.
I hear the promos all the time, but it really doesn't bother me because (a) they're very short in length (usually 10-15 seconds) and (b) they're not trying to sell me anything--just telling me about upcoming or different programming.
If you channel hop a lot you might keep missing them but if you stay locked on a channel for a while you'll definitely hear one (channel 41 - the BoneYard has quite a few). |
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| csimo |
I bet I heard 200 XM "promos" about XM carrying the John Roberts confirmation hearings live.
They're also pretty big on telling you what baseball games are currently being carried and what channel to tune to.
Promos on XM "commercial free" channels are run on average of one every 6 1/2 minutes. |
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| mzemanek |
I would personally cut XM a little slack... Telling you what channel to turn to for programming being called a commercial is a little tough. That is more of a service than a commercial. I assume by "Commercial Free" they mean that they do not take any paid advertisements.
Dictionary.com defines a Commercial as:
"A paid advertisement on television or radio."
I would guess that Webster's definition would be similar. |
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