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Top-Tier Gasolines... - Click HERE for Original Thread
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jayjr98
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G. COLTON
Once again P.T. Barnum has been proven correct.

G
perk
quote:
Originally posted by G. COLTON
Once again P.T. Barnum has been proven correct.

G



Yep!
Blackura
Gee and to think I've gone 130,000 miles on cheap no-name gas with no engine deposits and no problems at all. If only I had used Techron, I probably could have done 130,001! I must be a total blithering idiot for not having used the Techron additive!
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jimbo858
wow tough crowd...
laborlitigator
Yeah, I buy cheap gas and am proud of it!
DaleB
I put techron in the tank with each oil change, because I have no idea what the detergent concentration is in any given tank.
You also don't know how much variation there are between gas stations, and how closely they follow their maintenance procedures as far as changing their line filters, etc.
You also have no idea if you are getting gas near the bottom of the storage tank or near the top.

I guess the same people who believe they get enough detergent with each fillup also think gas never comes from central storage areas that serves more than one brand.
G. COLTON
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Originally posted by DaleB
I put techron in the tank with each oil change, because I have no idea what the detergent concentration is in any given tank.
You also don't know how much variation there are between gas stations, and how closely they follow their maintenance procedures as far as changing their line filters, etc.
You also have no idea if you are getting gas near the bottom of the storage tank or near the top.

I guess the same people who believe they get enough detergent with each fillup also think gas never comes from central storage areas that serves more than one brand.



It is interesting how 6 different logoed tankers can pull up to the same depot spigot and unload 6 different brands without changing any valves.

G
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Ronsully
I love the deposit gas leaves.... C16 leaded fuel... :lol: but not in the X of course.
pianoman41
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Originally posted by DaleB

I guess the same people who believe they get enough detergent with each fillup also think gas never comes from central storage areas that serves more than one brand.



I just traded in my 1997 Nissan Maxima with 166,000 miles on it and it purred just as good when I traded it in as when I bought it. Although I've always used 93 octane, I don't care what brand I use. Mobil, Shell, Exxon, Hess, mom & pop no-name--as long as the stations have steady traffic I go with the lowest price. I never added one can of injector cleaner, detergent, octane boost--nothing. Gas, and only gas, was all that went into the tank (well, dry gas on the 0 degree and below days here in New England). MA even has to deal with MBTE gas and the car never cared. Plugs changed at 100,000 miles (only time) and looked excellent. PCV valve changed once--looked very clean. Throttle body never cleaned (looks fine). And it still had its original fuel filter. And my MPG was consistently good over the last several years (about 22 city/29-30 highway).

Gas additives are just a waste of money, in my opinion.
xfactor
quote:
Originally posted by G. COLTON
Once again P.T. Barnum has been proven correct.

G



:bingo:
DaleB
quote:
Originally posted by G. COLTON


It is interesting how 6 different logoed tankers can pull up to the same depot spigot and unload 6 different brands without changing any valves.

G



Get educated.

http://vettenet.org/octane.html

"At a gasoline terminal you may see trucks from up to six different companies all loading at the SAME terminal (that for example may be supplied exclusively by Shell)"

"Brand of gasoline:
Some of you probably know this, others may be shocked by it. Oil companies swap base gasoline all the time. Let's say I have a refinery in Houston and you have one in Dallas. It makes little sense for me to truck my Houston gasoline to Dallas and for you to truck your gasoline from Dallas to Houston when gasoline is a commodity product. So, I let you draw 100,000 gallons of base gasoline from my storage tank in Houston for your Houston gas stations, and you let me draw 100,000 gallons of base gasoline from your Dallas holding tanks for my Dallas gas stations. That way, we both save on shipping. Yup, Texaco gasoline may have come from a Shell refinery and vice-versa. At a gasoline terminal you may see trucks from up to six different companies all loading at the SAME terminal (that for example may be supplied exclusively by Shell). What comes next, however, is what makes Texaco Texaco and Shell Shell. Additive. Each company has its own additive and adds it to the base gasoline. So while the base gasoline may be the same, the additive is different, and hence the brand of gasoline you use is different because of the additive, not the base gasoline."

Just tell me how you knew there were SIX trucks? :D
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Dog
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Originally posted by jayjr98
Interesting response...

If you think that this is nonsense howcome only a handful of gasoline producers are able to meet this criteria???

Why can Shell, Chevron, 76.. .etc.. meet this criteria but Exxon cannot?

And are you disputing the fact that deposits can and do build up in your engine? If you do not dispute that point, then is it not legitimit to believe that some gasolines will leave less (or maybe even much less) deposits than other blends?

I would be interested in hearing your logic on this if you have any..



The reason Shell et al are on the list and Exxon is not is probably because it costs a lot of money to be "certified" by TopTier Gas and Exxon didn't feel it was worth paying. Says a lot more about the business of selling certifications than selling gas.
JL_SS
Link to Edmunds forum thread with letter from ExxonMobil stating that they do meet TopTier specs
Dog
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Originally posted by JL_SS
Link to Edmunds forum thread with letter from ExxonMobil stating that they do meet TopTier specs



Your link indicates that the Exxon fuels DO pass the Top Tier performance criteria. Which supports my assumption that Exxon's reason for not appearing on the Top Tier site is not a function of performance, but of money (i.e. not wanting to spend it to support Top Tier's marketing program).
JL_SS
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Originally posted by Dog



Your link indicates that the Exxon fuels DO pass the Top Tier performance criteria. Which supports my assumption that Exxon's reason for not appearing on the Top Tier site is not a function of performance, but of money (i.e. not wanting to spend it to support Top Tier's marketing program).



Yes, I posted it in support of your argument.
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mdxforever
is this toptier gas supposed to have just more detergents ? or it is really cleaner and higher quality than the rest ?

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