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marcmdxer
what is the point of having a AWD when you are still required to put on chain when there is snow on the road . Ex: When I drive to big bear in California during snow season, all vehicle are required to put on chain.

Just buy a FWD and put chain on when there is snow on the road works just find compared to AWD vehicle.
JL_SS
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Originally posted by marcmdxer
what is the point of having a AWD when you are still required to put on chain when there is snow on the road . Ex: When I drive to big bear in California during snow season, all vehicle are required to put on chain.

Just buy a FWD and put chain on when there is snow on the road works just find compared to AWD vehicle.



Because some of us live in high snowfall areas where chains are not required. AWD sure beats driving around with chains all winter. Some get by with FWD and snow tires. In my case AWD performs better than FWD with snow tires.
nightguy
Looks like the user sometimes known as 'lann' is at it again. The other posts give it away. :rolleyes:
JL_SS
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Originally posted by nightguy
Looks like the user sometimes known as 'lann' is at it again. The other posts give it away. :rolleyes:


We need him to call us stupid to confirm........:) .
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marcmdxer
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Originally posted by nightguy
Looks like the user sometimes known as 'lann' is at it again. The other posts give it away. :rolleyes:

who is lann?, are you scared of him?
carguy1234
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Originally posted by JL_SS


We need him to call us stupid to confirm........:) .




Yes, that would be the clincher, though a quick look at the sentence structure and overall bastardization of grammar in the post above definitely smells like lann.
marcmdxer
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Originally posted by carguy1234



Yes, that would be the clincher, though a quick look at the sentence structure and overall bastardization of grammar in the post above definitely smells like lann.


what is going on?
Sinecure
OK. I'll bite.

Marc, you must be stupid.

In California there are multiple levels of chain control. IMO they are all stupid, but that's a different argument. All the SUV-driving morons who don't have decent tires are to blame as far as I can tell. You all try to drive in the snow with your bald tires. Then there is the group who think that AWD/4WD=Ice Brakes. Just because AWD makes it easier to get going in the snow does NOT mean it will be easier/faster to stop. On the contrary, the added weight of an SUV makes it even harder to stop the SUV than it would to stop a lighter car.

OK, back to the subject at hand. CA has basically 3 levels of chain control. 1 and 2 are basically the same for passenger cars, they vary only for trucks (whether they have to chain drive wheels only or drive and braking axles). Here are the levels:

1. Chains required. Four-wheel drive or snow tires OK.
2. Chains required. Four-wheel drive with snow tires OK.
3. Chains required on all vehicles, including four-wheel drive.
Usually you'll see #2, although I've seen #1 before. They'll usually close the road instead of doing a #3. In fact, I've never seen it get to level 3, they always close it first. Tires marked M/S or M+S qualify as snow tires [CVC 27459]. Chains must be installed on at least two drive wheels [CVC 27459]. Four wheel drive vehicles must still carry chains 4WD and AWD are the same thing as far as the law is concerned. That last one is the weird one and the clincher. I carry the cheapest chains I could get just so I can comply with the law (they check sometimes). I've never put them on the X. If you have decent tires and drive sensibly, you should never need chains on the MDX. If you don't have decent tires and don't drive sensibly, you are f'd no matter what.

Chain control should not force you to chain up your MDX unless the road is open with chain control level 3 or if you don't have M/S tires on your X.
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Warzau
Give it a break lann

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