| ductman |
as i was driving on the highway a chunk of ice about the size of a baseball flew off a truck , hit my formfit air deflector , cracked it
in half by right headlight assembly and then landed on my hood and
dented the hood, no paint damage, just a minor skuff mark in
dent, i hope i am a candidate for dent wizard, so i guess this is my
first "ding" on my 2005, and i have to replace my air deflector which is only 3 months old |
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| hammermdx |
| Bummer, glad to hear it wasn't anymore serious! |
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| JL_SS |
quote:
Originally posted by ductman
as i was driving on the highway a chunk of ice about the size of a baseball flew off a truck , hit my formfit air deflector , cracked it
in half by right headlight assembly and then landed on my hood and
dented the hood, no paint damage, just a minor skuff mark in
dent, i hope i am a candidate for dent wizard, so i guess this is my
first "ding" on my 2005, and i have to replace my air deflector which is only 3 months old
I believe there has to be access to the dented panel from the backside and it has to be a fairly flat area on the sheet metal. So it depends on where it hit. You can always have a dent place look at it for confirmation. Otherwise it is a fill and repaint job. |
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| ductman |
i went to dent wizard today and they said that if they popped the
dent it would crack the paint, i went to a couple of body shops
and they want to go overboard
one said they want to replace the entire hood and repaint the
fenders also, the other one said they would fill it in and repaint entire hood and also the fenders to match, they both said for some reason the right headlight assembly would have to be removed
at this point i have ordered another air deflector and the new on will
cover the dent about 1in in diameter, no paint damage, just a slight skuff, i am afraid that when the hood and fenders are "repainted "
to blend together that it will lose that shiny factory paint job, i would
rather deal with me being the only one who knows about the ding,
i know for leased vehicles there is a 1500 forgiveness for wear and tear, i would not be too happy if the repair which involved other sections came out looking sloppy, by the way i had quotes between
1000 and 1400, this would be covered under my comprehensive but
i would not rather deal with the other consquences of cloppy repair work |
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| jatharp |
| You say between $1000 -$1400 to fix a 1 inch dent????? Sounds awfully high.Why not take a chance and have dentbusters push out the dent. They should charge in the area of $100, Then if need be and the paint does crack get it painted in a body shop. I see no reason a headlamp assy has to come out to paint a hood!! |
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| JL_SS |
quote:
Originally posted by ductman
i went to dent wizard today and they said that if they popped the
dent it would crack the paint, i went to a couple of body shops
and they want to go overboard
one said they want to replace the entire hood and repaint the
fenders also, the other one said they would fill it in and repaint entire hood and also the fenders to match, they both said for some reason the right headlight assembly would have to be removed
at this point i have ordered another air deflector and the new on will
cover the dent about 1in in diameter, no paint damage, just a slight skuff, i am afraid that when the hood and fenders are "repainted "
to blend together that it will lose that shiny factory paint job, i would
rather deal with me being the only one who knows about the ding,
i know for leased vehicles there is a 1500 forgiveness for wear and tear, i would not be too happy if the repair which involved other sections came out looking sloppy, by the way i had quotes between
1000 and 1400, this would be covered under my comprehensive but
i would not rather deal with the other consquences of cloppy repair work
If the paint is not broken and a new deflector will cover it, then I would do just that. Especially in a leased vehicle. They may not even notice it at lease return. A new paint job done by a good reputable body shop will not be detectable by your average person. However, many times there are problems like slight color mismatch, overspray, etc. If Dent Wizard says the paint will crack then I would trust their experience and not have them try it. |
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| ductman |
i have decided to have the repair done, i have found a body shop
who will fill the dent and repaint the hood for 300, i saw some samples of his paint work and it looked good, i hope i am making the right decision, i really did not see the need to do all this extra work, plus their is more chance for error, i have went back and forth
on this issue but since the vehicle is only 5 months old, i know
it will drive me nuts to look at this if i didn"t get it done , mdx is going in monday, will have back wed pm, wish me luck
p.s. the new air deflector only covers up approx 1/2 of the damage |
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| JL_SS |
quote:
Originally posted by ductman
i have decided to have the repair done, i have found a body shop
who will fill the dent and repaint the hood for 300, i saw some samples of his paint work and it looked good, i hope i am making the right decision, i really did not see the need to do all this extra work, plus their is more chance for error, i have went back and forth
on this issue but since the vehicle is only 5 months old, i know
it will drive me nuts to look at this if i didn"t get it done , mdx is going in monday, will have back wed pm, wish me luck
p.s. the new air deflector only covers up approx 1/2 of the damage
Are they painting just the hood? They usually have to blend the fenders so that you don't notice any color mismatch. |
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| ductman |
yes, they are just doing the hood, if they blend the fenders
won"t they then have to do the doors also, the body shop claimed
that the spot would be primed, painted, and the remainder of the hood clear coated, with less clear coat toward the fender edges
i am still wondering if i should still do this |
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| ductman |
i guess the question is, am i better off with a dent in hood,near crease which is only visible from right side or take a chance
and have entire hood redone, hoping that their is not an extreme
color mismatch and that the paint still shines |
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| JL_SS |
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Originally posted by ductman
yes, they are just doing the hood, if they blend the fenders
won"t they then have to do the doors also, the body shop claimed
that the spot would be primed, painted, and the remainder of the hood clear coated, with less clear coat toward the fender edges
i am still wondering if i should still do this
No they blend the top portion of the fenders to match the hood. They would not have to blend the doors unless they repainted your whole fenders. Then again, I had a rear quarter panel dent fixed in another car that was about the size of a quarter. It had creased paint so it had to be repaired. The shop was so good that they filled the dent and repainted only the dented area, feathering the paint into the adjoining painted areas and I could not tell it had been repaired at all.
So it really comes done to "can you live with it?". If not then find the best body shop in the area. Get referals and look at previous work. Do you have a Luxury dealership in your area (BMW, Porsche, etc)? If so, find out who they use when their new cars come in damaged. Count on whoever you choose screwing at least one thing up and having to return. Then bite the bullet and have it done. |
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| ductman |
i did some poking around the internet and you are right about having to blend the fenders and i also found that silver one of the
toughest colors to match, so i think since it is not on the side of the vehicle, but somewhat concealed by the bug deflector
( visible only when looking from right side), i am going to pass
since i know nothing about this body shop and he could make it look a lot worse, mismatched paint,i guess his price seemed too cheap,
he told me 300 cash, i guess i should run fast!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| JL_SS |
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Originally posted by ductman
i did some poking around the internet and you are right about having to blend the fenders and i also found that silver one of the
toughest colors to match, so i think since it is not on the side of the vehicle, but somewhat concealed by the bug deflector
( visible only when looking from right side), i am going to pass
since i know nothing about this body shop and he could make it look a lot worse, mismatched paint,i guess his price seemed too cheap,
he told me 300 cash, i guess i should run fast!!!!!!!!!!!!
Usually in the case of body work, the most expensive shop is quoting doing it right and the least expensive shop is cutting corners. You can always take the time to find a good body shop and have it repaired later. You don't say where you are, but in MA it is the snow season with a lot of salt and sand. I never get anything small repainted in the winter. I always wait till after the winter has taken it's toll.
Silver is indeed very hard to match and that is a good reason that you would need to have the fenders blended. |
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| JohnBoy |
| Hey Ductman, sorry to hear about that. I have a 2006 mdx that got 3 dings some how on my trip with my wife for thanksgiveing. The reason I mention this is one was fairly large and on the pass. side crease in the hood. One place told me it would crack the paint than I brought it to my detail guy who does dent and ding removal and he driiled a tiny whole under the hood and got them all out perfectly. You can't even tell. The other place and a body shop were like, "you have to fill repaint and blend". They just wanted to not deal with it or make more money. It can be done but takes more skill and time when the dent is on a crease. Its like a emergency room doctor compared to a general doctor. The emergency doc can do any thing you pretty much throw at him quick and well while the general family doctor says he doesnt think it can be done. You should get another dent/ding places opinion. |
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| ductman |
thanks for the info, i have e-mailed a picture to another dent
repair guy, my dent on hood seems similiar to yours, dent wizard
guy did not want to deal with it i think because it was about 15 deg
outside and his garage was occupied and every body shop wants to turn it into a major ordeal, i will just live with it if i can not get the dent out without major repainting and blending, hood deflector
covers approx half and other half is only seen from certain angles due to hood deflector, here is a picture |
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| JohnBoy |
| I know what you mean now by seeing the picture. That would bother me even covered just knowing that it is there. My wife nows I'm crazy but I just try to explain how she feels when her newest pair of shoes get scratched or scuffed.Lol I would not have a body shop fill and repaint because it will never be the same and you risk overspray and all that even in the best shops. Plus nothing will touch carfax and people dont usually care about a small ding if for some reason you should want to trade or sell it some day. As soon as people see or hear about any kind of paint work they think front end accident no matter what you tell tham about blending or a ding. Just my 2 cents.:D |
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| ardvarkus |
No insurance?
I have comprehensive with a 50 deductible (500 on collision). The $50 deduct on the Comp only adds $80 a year as compared to higher deductibles. I do a windshield a year per car, so it is worth it.
$500-750 "per panel" is not an unreasonable price for paint work. They need to repair the dent, color match and clear coat. If the repair is near a neighboring panel, they may need to paint over to that to get the color match right.
If you aren't picky, don't worry about it. I see people driving bad body work that would make me insane,...they are oblivious: "oh, yes I can see the silver kind of looks different but though it was supposed to look like that..."
Comprehensive claims do not increase your insurance and are not "counted against" you...
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| ductman |
this is not an insurance issue, this is an issue of whether a body shop can do a competent repair job without screwing up the rest of the paint on the hood and fenders, i have decided to leave the
dent alone since the air deflector covers up 1/2 of it, no paint
is broken, just slight scratch only seen from certain angles. and
i have accepted this " issue" |
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| crmsnidol |
| posting resized image for easier viewing... |
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| ardvarkus |
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Originally posted by ductman
...., this is an issue of whether a body shop can do a competent repair job without screwing up the rest of the paint on the hood and fenders,...
Of course they can.
You want to rationalize saving $2000 and say that it it because the body shop would prolly screw it up, fine. |
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| ductman |
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Originally posted by ardvarkus
Of course they can.
You want to rationalize saving $2000 and say that it it because the body shop would prolly screw it up, fine.
i can rationalize that i can spell |
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| ardvarkus |
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Originally posted by ductman
i can rationalize that i can spell
Sorry, I was being a pissant....
Whatever, it's all good!
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| ductman |
| no problem, apology accepted |
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