| dtmdx2000 |
I have a 2002 MDX with the original Navi DVD in it (yes, I know...it's taken me awhile to get to upgrading).
Can anyone tell me if the software updates are cummulative? That is, if I get the 2.20 disk now, will it bring me up to the latest revision of the software as well? I ask because I saw somewhere on this board that 2.20 contains only more points of interest and better map coverage so I wasn't sure if the software itself gets upgraded or only the database?
On another note, did anyone else see a note stating that the 2.30 version would be out later this month? I recall seeing it briefly on the order page, but then it was replaced with just the 2.20 version. Maybe it was delayed?
Thanks
Dan |
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| highcountrymdx |
| The latest disk will fully update the operating software, as well as data (map, points of interest, etc.). The latest software release is always waiting in the wings. The advice is always the same..... wait as long as you possibly can, then go for it. At $185 for the upgrade, patience is the watchword. |
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| dtmdx2000 |
| Thanks for the info. Well, I've waited for 3.5 years to get an update, I might as well wait until the end of this month to see if 2.30 is announced. |
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| highcountrymdx |
As far as updating software, I probably need to clarified this issue a bit.
Any updates to the original software's operating system (ie, bug fixes, or very limited feature set upgrades) would be included with the latest releases. The new releases will not give any totally new capabilities to the 2.0(?)system. No voice upgrades, Zagat's, etc.
Therefore, the new software disc will not change substantially the way anything works or looks, but it will upgrade the map database. That database can lag the real world changes by a wide time frame.
Keep in mind that Alpine (the disc's manufacturer) has had a pretty good return policy in the past. Just in case what's new on the disc doesn't pass the $185 sniff test. |
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| pianoman41 |
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Originally posted by dtmdx2000
On another note, did anyone else see a note stating that the 2.30 version would be out later this month? I recall seeing it briefly on the order page, but then it was replaced with just the 2.20 version. Maybe it was delayed?
If you've gone this long with the original version and been happy, you'd probably be happy with v2.20, as there were some major map updates on v2.11c (which are still part of 2.20). Basically v1.05 was the last version that had maps of only the major metropolitan areas and then just the main streets in between. After 1.05 came 2.11C which included more than 95% of the country--albeit some of it is "unverified" data (which just changes how the navi handles mapping through it). v2.20 was supposed to come out Fall 04 but was released Feb 05. It updated everything and added more "verified" coverage. v2.30 is expected next week and is expected to be like v2.20--just more map and POI updates.
So check on the www.acuranavi.com web site under the version history and see what's changed in your area. Wait until 2.30 is released, and if you don't see any significant changes in your area, then just wait a couple weeks and all the early adopters (like me) will be selling their v2.20 on places like eBay at a significant discount.
Go with the one-generation old update and you can save $$$$, and it's still an update for you compared to what you have now. |
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| dtmdx2000 |
| I just checked the link and saw that 2.3 is available for ordering. :-) |
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| 1kyfan |
I'm sorry to ask some newbie questions so please bear with me. I just purchased a 2003 MDX with NAV and I'm trying to learn and understand as much as possible concerning my NAV system...which leads to my questions:
I've been reading the posts in this thread concerning the latest release of the Acura NAV disk. Are you saying that the lastest disk for the MDX is version 2.3 (which is a black disk right?). However, when I go to the Acura Nav Disk website and put in my 2003 MDX it shows that version 3.5 (Orange Disk) is the latest verson for my MDX. It says that the 2.3 version is for the Acura TL? Then it also lists a version 4.31 (white disk) for the 2005 MDX.
Will only the orange disks work in my 2003 MDX or can I use another version/color disk (black or white)?
It looks like the black (2.30) and white (4.31) disks contain a lot more coverage than the orange disks. Is that correct and if so, why?
My current disk is 3.20 (orange disk). Currently my Nav system doesn't say the street names to turn onto when guiding, it only says turn left in .25 mile, etc. If I upgrade my disk to a newer verson (3.5 orange disk, etc.), will that upgrade my Nav software so that it will then also say the street name to turn onto (tuen left onto Hull Street, etc) when doing guidance?
Last, is there a Acura NAV System FAQ that I should read?
Thanks for you help in advance......
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| dtmdx2000 |
Each MDX year has it's own set of DVD upgrades. So this one would apply for 2002 MDXs. There are variations in the nav system between years so that's why you need to make sure that the update is for your car year.
Hope that helps.
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Originally posted by 1kyfan
I'm sorry to ask some newbie questions so please bear with me. I just purchased a 2003 MDX with NAV and I'm trying to learn and understand as much as possible concerning my NAV system...which leads to my questions:
I've been reading the posts in this thread concerning the latest release of the Acura NAV disk. Are you saying that the lastest disk for the MDX is version 2.3 (which is a black disk right?). However, when I go to the Acura Nav Disk website and put in my 2003 MDX it shows that version 3.5 (Orange Disk) is the latest verson for my MDX. It says that the 2.3 version is for the Acura TL? Then it also lists a version 4.31 (white disk) for the 2005 MDX.
Will only the orange disks work in my 2003 MDX or can I use another version/color disk (black or white)?
It looks like the black (2.30) and white (4.31) disks contain a lot more coverage than the orange disks. Is that correct and if so, why?
My current disk is 3.20 (orange disk). Currently my Nav system doesn't say the street names to turn onto when guiding, it only says turn left in .25 mile, etc. If I upgrade my disk to a newer verson (3.5 orange disk, etc.), will that upgrade my Nav software so that it will then also say the street name to turn onto (tuen left onto Hull Street, etc) when doing guidance?
Last, is there a Acura NAV System FAQ that I should read?
Thanks for you help in advance......
cheers,
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| pianoman41 |
quote:
Originally posted by 1kyfan
I've been reading the posts in this thread concerning the latest release of the Acura NAV disk. Are you saying that the lastest disk for the MDX is version 2.3 (which is a black disk right?). However, when I go to the Acura Nav Disk website and put in my 2003 MDX it shows that version 3.5 (Orange Disk) is the latest verson for my MDX. It says that the 2.3 version is for the Acura TL? Then it also lists a version 4.31 (white disk) for the 2005 MDX.
2003 MDXs use the 2nd generation of Acura navigation units and use the orange navi discs only. 3.50 is the most current version and was just released in October 2005.
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Will only the orange disks work in my 2003 MDX or can I use another version/color disk (black or white)?
You can only use like-color discs, so you MUST use orange discs only.
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It looks like the black (2.30) and white (4.31) disks contain a lot more coverage than the orange disks. Is that correct and if so, why?
The current version of all discs (black v2.30, orange v3.50, white v4.31C and blue v6.11) all utilize the same US coverage database (however the black discs have no Canadian coverage). There should be a negligible difference, if any, among the four. The only difference is in the software features for that particular system/vehicle (i.e. voice commands in the TL/MDX, XM Traffic in the RL, etc).
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My current disk is 3.20 (orange disk). Currently my Nav system doesn't say the street names to turn onto when guiding, it only says turn left in .25 mile, etc. If I upgrade my disk to a newer verson (3.5 orange disk, etc.), will that upgrade my Nav software so that it will then also say the street name to turn onto (tuen left onto Hull Street, etc) when doing guidance?
I don't know when that option was added, but if you go into the set-up for the navi on one of the screens you will see a setting called "Voice Guidance" and you should have options for None/Minimum/Normal/Maximum (or something like that). Choosing Maximum will have the navi's synthesized voice say the name of the street for turning. This might be a 3rd generation (white disc) feature only--I'm not 100% sure.
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Last, is there a Acura NAV System FAQ that I should read?
The navigation supplemental manual that came with your MDX is a good resource. Anything that can't be answered in there can probably be answered here. |
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| 1kyfan |
I read in the 06 MDX brochure that the NAV system/disk contained 8.5 GB of data which would make it a double layer DVD of course. So I was wondering if any of the older systems can read double layer disks and if any of the older disks (mine is orange) are double layer or will be DL in the future so that they contain more data and points of interest?
Kind of along the same lines, the latest version of the orange disk (3.50) lists far less coverage of cities in Kentucky while the while and black disks seem to list twice as many cities for coverage. I was wondering why this might be since the white disk is also for the 2002 MDX I believe. Does this mean that the 2002 MDX has better coverage than my 2003 with the orange disk?
Is there a need to update the firmware in the NAV systems and if so, how would you do so? In my Audi (CD based), I have to download the update file and burn it to a CD and then run it in my Audi Nav system. |
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| pianoman41 |
quote:
Originally posted by 1kyfan
I read in the 06 MDX brochure that the NAV system/disk contained 8.5 GB of data which would make it a double layer DVD of course. So I was wondering if any of the older systems can read double layer disks and if any of the older disks (mine is orange) are double layer or will be DL in the future so that they contain more data and points of interest?
Kind of along the same lines, the latest version of the orange disk (3.50) lists far less coverage of cities in Kentucky while the while and black disks seem to list twice as many cities for coverage. I was wondering why this might be since the white disk is also for the 2002 MDX I believe. Does this mean that the 2002 MDX has better coverage than my 2003 with the orange disk?
Is there a need to update the firmware in the NAV systems and if so, how would you do so? In my Audi (CD based), I have to download the update file and burn it to a CD and then run it in my Audi Nav system.
The navi discs have always been double-layer, since the 1st generation DVD-based systems (2000+). The discs of competing systems use the same map/POI database for a given equal version--it's just ported to a software version that can be utilized by the system (voice command, different display, etc). So the most current black-label DVD (2.30) has the same coverage/POIs as the current orange-label DVD (3.50) and the current white-label DVD (4.31) and the current blue-label DVD (6.11). The only exception is the Canadian coverage, which didn't (and still doesn't) exist on the black-label discs.
I'm not sure where you're seeing the list of cities covered, but if you're refering to the acuranavi.com web site that's not always completely accurate. It looks like they still have the major city list instead of the complete city list for the orange discs. You can always have someone with the current version compare with someone with a white-label or black-label disc to see the difference.
Firmware/software can only be updated via an updated navi disc. If there are updates to be made, they will be made at the same time the map/POI database is updated. The first time you put an upgrade disc into the drive it will update the firmware/software, if applicable. |
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| theXman |
Just a point of reference, I m sure some of you already know. The last digit of your X's model year should match the 1st digit of the Navi version #. i.e., if you have an 02, the Navi version should be 2.XX, for an 03, the version would be 3.XX and so for.
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| dj-mdx2 |
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Originally posted by theXman
Just a point of reference, I m sure some of you already know. The last digit of your X's model year should match the 1st digit of the Navi version #. i.e., if you have an 02, the Navi version should be 2.XX, for an 03, the version would be 3.XX and so for.
:)
Your point is valid as long as you take into account the model year changes, i.e. things changed in 2003 and 2004, hence the difference in NAV units and disks. However, on 01, 05 and I'm assuming 06, the disc version theory will not hold true. |
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| pianoman41 |
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Originally posted by theXman
Just a point of reference, I m sure some of you already know. The last digit of your X's model year should match the 1st digit of the Navi version #. i.e., if you have an 02, the Navi version should be 2.XX, for an 03, the version would be 3.XX and so for.
:)
This is not how the numbering scheme works. The first digit represents the generation of navi unit.
2001-2002 = 2nd generation of navi units (black disk, v2.XX)
2003-2004 = 3rd generation of navi units (orange disk, v3.XX)
2005-2006 = 4th generation of navi units (white disk, v4.XX) |
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| tdnone |
Hi,
I have a 2001 Navi and just installed the upgrade disk as per instructions on the disk. Everything is fine, more streets now, but the cute high pitch female voice is now replaced by a low pitch female voice. Does anyone know how I can get back to my previous higher pitch voice?
Thanks, |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by tdnone
Hi,
I have a 2001 Navi and just installed the upgrade disk as per instructions on the disk. Everything is fine, more streets now, but the cute high pitch female voice is now replaced by a low pitch female voice. Does anyone know how I can get back to my previous higher pitch voice?
Thanks,
Yeah, not as cute a voice, but better than the female storm-trooper on my Garmin. |
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| dj-mdx2 |
quote:
Originally posted by tdnone
Hi,
I have a 2001 Navi and just installed the upgrade disk as per instructions on the disk. Everything is fine, more streets now, but the cute high pitch female voice is now replaced by a low pitch female voice. Does anyone know how I can get back to my previous higher pitch voice?
Put some helium in the gas tank maybe? :2: :2: :2:
(Sorry, couldn't resist.):D |
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| pianoman41 |
quote:
Originally posted by tdnone
Hi,
I have a 2001 Navi and just installed the upgrade disk as per instructions on the disk. Everything is fine, more streets now, but the cute high pitch female voice is now replaced by a low pitch female voice. Does anyone know how I can get back to my previous higher pitch voice?
Sorry, you're out of luck. The new voice is part of the software update and cannot be undone or changed. You're stuck with the new voice. |
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| wagonrus |
Guys,
From what i read above with the upgrade of the software is to purchase the latest DVD from acuranavi.com.
What I don't understand is where I insert the DVD? MY MDX does not have a DVD player. Is there a hidden drive for the NAV system in the car?
I just bought the car few days ago, and have not finished reading the owner's manual. Please excuse my novice questions.
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| highcountrymdx |
| DVD is under passenger seat. |
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