| laborlitigator |
| As a Yankee fan, it's been so long since we've tasted the championship. Hopefully, this is the year! |
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| laborlitigator |
Bonds chase for the Home Run Crown. . .
How uncomfortable will that be? |
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| laborlitigator |
| So if Rollins gets to 56, should it have an asterisk? |
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| laborlitigator |
| Does A Rod finally show up in the playoffs? |
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| laborlitigator |
| Will the Mets finally dethrone Atlanta? |
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| laborlitigator |
| White Sox appear to be the favorites with the best pitching staff |
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| laborlitigator |
| Do the A's make it back to the playoffs? |
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| laborlitigator |
| Do the Sox take a step back this year? |
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| ByeByeChrysler |
you didn't mention the Blue Jays :(
they may surprise everyone :cool: |
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| keremoner |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Do the A's make it back to the playoffs?
Not the way they looked last night!! AL East will still be between the Sox and the Yanks. Toronto will be much improved but it is not their time yet. I like White Sox and St. Louis as well as the Red Sox and the Yankees chances. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by keremoner
Not the way they looked last night!! AL East will still be between the Sox and the Yanks. Toronto will be much improved but it is not their time yet. I like White Sox and St. Louis as well as the Red Sox and the Yankees chances.
I can't like St. Louis. They tend to underachieve. |
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| laborlitigator |
Looks like they are on death's door.
If they are eliminated, I want A-Rod out of there. He's like a cancer. |
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| buckeye1 |
Gotta love it,what a great Saturday,the BUCKS win
and the Yankees go home!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| keremoner |
| Some heads are about to roll in NY. I'd be pissed too if my 200m did not buy me a championship caliber team. Well, the Sox (red) did not fare well either for their 180m or so payroll. |
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| laborlitigator |
Looks like cooler heads prevailed. I still want A-Rod out.
Keremoner, i'll trade him straight up for Papelbaum. |
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| keremoner |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Looks like cooler heads prevailed. I still want A-Rod out.
Keremoner, i'll trade him straight up for Papelbaum.
Sox would be crazy to make that deal but they've made some meat head moves in the past so who knows. Especially since Sox are desperate for some pitching. I think that Schilling is history and they will need some help next year. |
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| A2MDXer |
| Go Tigers. I am not a huge baseball fan but the Tigers run this year (after 18 years of ineptitude) has drawn me back in (at least to the playoffs). The Tigers really have a hold on the city right now. Really hoping this team can get to the World Series and yes, it was nice to see them beat the Yankess 3 straight after being written off after game 1. |
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| nightguy |
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Originally posted by A2MDXer
Go Tigers. I am not a huge baseball fan but the Tigers run this year (after 18 years of ineptitude) has drawn me back in (at least to the playoffs). The Tigers really have a hold on the city right now. Really hoping this team can get to the World Series and yes, it was nice to see them beat the Yankess 3 straight after being written off after game 1.
I'm waiting for an implosion like the last week of the season. Terrible to give up the division after 161 games, especially when even a tie would have clinched it and you're playing what was then the worst team in the majors. They've got an interesting lineup but when I hear them compared to the '27 Yankees or even the '84 Tigers I can't really understand. I would say that actually the Tigers have had 22 years of ineptitude. Getting blown out of the playoffs convincingly (4-1) by a team that won 13 fewer games in '87 was bad. Maybe the longer dry spell is a good reason to root for them.
Good news though...it sounds like Zumaya might actually be able to pitch this weekend, which is damn lucky if it's true. |
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| mullysalt |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
I can't like St. Louis. They tend to underachieve.
Nice, LL. |
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| laborlitigator |
May 29 - 14.5 game lead
September 18 - 2.5 game lead
Watching Red Sox fans getting ready to jump off the Charles River Bridge - priceless |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
May 29 - 14.5 game lead
September 18 - 2.5 game lead
Watching Red Sox fans getting ready to jump off the Charles River Bridge - priceless
When I lived in New England, this was my favorite time of year! I loved seeing the hopes dashed in September, though 86 when my mom had the champagne ready to pop, that is probably my greatest sports memory ever! |
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| laborlitigator |
| What's amazing abou 1978 is that the Yanks had a 3 1/2 game lead with 11 to go. Then, the Sox ran off 8 straight games to force the playoff. |
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| keremoner |
| If Francona puts Gagne in to pitch once more with anything but a 5-6 run lead, he ought to be fired. The guy has costed the Sox 4 games so far. As a die-hard Sox fan, I gotta admit that Yanks have much better management/coaching than the Sox. |
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| gmc74 |
Four of the six divisions have a pretty tight race going on right now, it should make for an exciting end to the season.
Diamondbacks up 1 over San Diego and the Sox up 1.5 over the Yanks should be really interesting since the team that loses each of these races should be the wild card for their respective league.
I am one of the people that love the (relatively) new playoff system in baseball. |
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| Maik |
When the Red Sox were 14 games up...I made a bet with a family member that the Sox would not make the playoffs.
Looks like I will run out of time! If the season were even one week longer I might have won. |
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| keremoner |
I agree with you. The way their pitching staff looked until a couple of weeks ago, they were my favorites to win the World Series. Now, it looks like a 1st round exit to me. They never had great hitting this year but their defense and pitching were enough to make them favorites in my eyes. Now all that seems to be a distant memory. Starting pitching is still doing a fair to good job but Francona wants to rest people so puts in Gagne with 1 run lead in 6th inning. I say that is nuts and epidemy of poor management considering Manny isn't there and Ortiz is as cold as anything lately. Also the set up and closer pitchers have gone from the best combo in the league to one of the worst. At least their customary August melt downs in previous years was acceptable to me, but having the lead for just about all the season and squandering it away in the last couple of weeks of the season is especially painful.
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Originally posted by Maik
When the Red Sox were 14 games up...I made a bet with a family member that the Sox would not make the playoffs.
Looks like I will run out of time! If the season were even one week longer I might have won.
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by keremoner
I agree with you. The way their pitching staff looked until a couple of weeks ago, they were my favorites to win the World Series. Now, it looks like a 1st round exit to me. They never had great hitting this year but their defense and pitching were enough to make them favorites in my eyes. Now all that seems to be a distant memory. Starting pitching is still doing a fair to good job but Francona wants to rest people so puts in Gagne with 1 run lead in 6th inning. I say that is nuts and epidemy of poor management considering Manny isn't there and Ortiz is as cold as anything lately. Also the set up and closer pitchers have gone from the best combo in the league to one of the worst. At least their customary August melt downs in previous years was acceptable to me, but having the lead for just about all the season and squandering it away in the last couple of weeks of the season is especially painful.
If the Sox do lose the division, the turning point will be the Gagne trade. I can't really blame the Sox for getting him but you could have used a stick rather than adding onto the bullpen. I can't really kill them cause the Yanks wanted him also but weren't willing to give up Kennedy (thank goodness). |
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| keremoner |
Yankees can thank their lucky stars !! Hey, maybe gagne is a 'double agent' for Steinbrenner, there to sink the Sox at the most cruicial time !
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Yanks wanted him also but weren't willing to give up Kennedy (thank goodness).
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| Maik |
quote:
Originally posted by laborlitigator
If the Sox do lose the division, the turning point will be the Gagne trade. I can't really blame the Sox for getting him but you could have used a stick rather than adding onto the bullpen. I can't really kill them cause the Yanks wanted him also but weren't willing to give up Kennedy (thank goodness).
Not close.
The Sox have been a .500 ball club since the All Star break. Gagne has simply fit right in as opposed to being the turning point.
He is not the cause of the collapse...lack of timely hitting, lack of defense poor play by the whole bullpen and injuries have all contributed. |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by Maik
Not close.
The Sox have been a .500 ball club since the All Star break. Gagne has simply fit right in as opposed to being the turning point.
He is not the cause of the collapse...lack of timely hitting, lack of defense poor play by the whole bullpen and injuries have all contributed.
ahh, the red sox of old, cracking under pressure, that is what I love to see :D
by the way Keremoner, you are a homer! Probably the biggest I have seen in a while.
On this thread you stated the Red Sox were your favorites to win the WS, on the football thread you had the audacity to say that I don't know what I am talking about when I said the Colts would win it all, because your homer team, the Patriots are the best in the NFL...
Let me guess, the Bruins and the Celtics are taking the titles as well? :2: |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by gmc74
Let me guess, the Bruins and the Celtics are taking the titles as well? :2:
Not the Bruins...Celts may well get get to the finals in the fairly weak east.
As for the Pats, right now they are the best team in the NFL. Question is whether they will stay there. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by Maik
Not close.
The Sox have been a .500 ball club since the All Star break. Gagne has simply fit right in as opposed to being the turning point.
He is not the cause of the collapse...lack of timely hitting, lack of defense poor play by the whole bullpen and injuries have all contributed.
Really? How many games would you be up if he hadn't blown 4 games? Theo messed with the bullpen's chemistry and ignored the need for hitting. He added to a strength while ignoring his glaring needs. |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Really? How many games would you be up if he hadn't blown 4 games? Theo messed with the bullpen's chemistry and ignored the need for hitting. He added to a strength while ignoring his glaring needs.
That comment shows your lack of understanding of whats really going on...yes the Sox would be up by more if Gagne did not blow those saves...or if Youk had maintaned his batting average from before the break...or if Timlin had not walked the bases loaded in two games...or if Papelbon had not given up the grand slam the other night...or if the Sox did not blow the big lead in the late innings to the Yankees in the first game of their recent series...or if Ortiz did not wiff three times to end close games with men on base in the last month...the fact of the matter is that the Sox were playing well over their heads in the first half...look at the line up. The only consistancy on offense has been Pedrioa, Ortiz and Lowell...Nancy Drew has been a huge bust...Cookoo for Coko Crisp had a couple of good weeks, even Manny with his 20 HRs and 80 RBI far below his historical numbers, and Lugo has barely batted his weight. Two of their starters are over 40 and have been injured during the season.
So dont tell me that Gagne is the reason for the Sox collapse.
So, if you think that Theo ignored the Sox glaring needs, what move(s) would you have made??? |
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| keremoner |
Celtics and Bruins have a long way to go before they become the great teams that they once were (though Celtics are a lot closer to being good now than the Bruins). I still stand by my Pats prediction for all the reasons I gave you before. BoSox were the favorites of many till a couple of weeks ago. They had the best pitching staff overall and werre playing great defensively. And those, my friend, are what win championships. As Maik says, injuries, pitching fatigue, and bats going cold have all put that to a great doubt now.
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Originally posted by gmc74
ahh, the red sox of old, cracking under pressure, that is what I love to see :D
by the way Keremoner, you are a homer! Probably the biggest I have seen in a while.
On this thread you stated the Red Sox were your favorites to win the WS, on the football thread you had the audacity to say that I don't know what I am talking about when I said the Colts would win it all, because your homer team, the Patriots are the best in the NFL...
Let me guess, the Bruins and the Celtics are taking the titles as well? :2:
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by Maik
That comment shows your lack of understanding of whats really going on...yes the Sox would be up by more if Gagne did not blow those saves...or if Youk had maintaned his batting average from before the break...or if Timlin had not walked the bases loaded in two games...or if Papelbon had not given up the grand slam the other night...or if the Sox did not blow the big lead in the late innings to the Yankees in the first game of their recent series...or if Ortiz did not wiff three times to end close games with men on base in the last month...the fact of the matter is that the Sox were playing well over their heads in the first half...look at the line up. The only consistancy on offense has been Pedrioa, Ortiz and Lowell...Nancy Drew has been a huge bust...Cookoo for Coko Crisp had a couple of good weeks, even Manny with his 20 HRs and 80 RBI far below his historical numbers, and Lugo has barely batted his weight. Two of their starters are over 40 and have been injured during the season.
So dont tell me that Gagne is the reason for the Sox collapse.
So, if you think that Theo ignored the Sox glaring needs, what move(s) would you have made???
Jermaine Dye would have cost you less than what you gave up for Gagne, he would have added some pop (27 HRs) and could have provided some protection to Ortiz or maybe Milton Bradley (.312 avg/.410 obp) |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Jermaine Dye would have cost you less than what you gave up for Gagne, he would have added some pop (27 HRs) and could have provided some protection to Ortiz or maybe Milton Bradley (.312 avg/.410 obp)
Sorry, councelor, Dye was not available for the same price at all. Would have had to give up Lester and or Clay. Neither was going to happen. |
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| laborlitigator |
| BTW, you guys should pick up a game at least this weekend. You've got the lowly Devil Rays while we have Halladay and Burnett on both ends |
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| keremoner |
Not so sure. TB has a way of winning games against Sox when it counts for the Sox. On the other hand, Yanks have done well against the Jays. So it is a toss up. I am a little more confident about next week: ChiSox and Twins at home. I wouldn't bet anything against the Yanks winning the division. (and my hat's off to them, they win when they have to!)
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
BTW, you guys should pick up a game at least this weekend. You've got the lowly Devil Rays while we have Halladay and Burnett on both ends
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| laborlitigator |
I'm surprised Bosox fans don't reference the collapse of '04 more often.
But, I guess it's like a deck chair off the Titanic. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by keremoner
Not so sure. TB has a way of winning games against Sox when it counts for the Sox. On the other hand, Yanks have done well against the Jays. So it is a toss up. I am a little more confident about next week: ChiSox and Twins at home. I wouldn't bet anything against the Yanks winning the division. (and my hat's off to them, they win when they have to!)
You end up with the A's and Twins. |
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| laborlitigator |
Told ya.
Then again, we only have to tie to get the division. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Looks like we get the Indians. |
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| laborlitigator |
I know my Yanks blew a 3-0 lead a few years back but what the Mets did has to be the biggest choke job of all time.
7 game lead with 17 to go. . . |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
I know my Yanks blew a 3-0 lead a few years back but what the Mets did has to be the biggest choke job of all time.
7 game lead with 17 to go. . .
"MY YANKS"?????
I feel honored that George S is here on this forum! |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by Maik
"MY YANKS"?????
I feel honored that George S is here on this forum!
You should be worried more about the halos. |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
You should be worried more about the halos.
Not a bit...Yanks will go down to Cleveland. In a best of 5, ya gotta love the Tribe's chances with two of the best starters in baseball.
Red Sox will win in 4.
I actually hope the Yanks win. Nothing more fun than a Yanks/Sox series. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Just make sure you take out the halos. Yanks will see you in a couple of weeks. |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Just make sure you take out the halos. Yanks will see you in a couple of weeks.
Oh, OK. I will make sure of it. |
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| laborlitigator |
Colorado v. Philadelphia - Rockies in 4
Chicago v. Arizona - Cubs in 5
Los Angeles v. Boston - Boston in 3
New York v. Cleveland - New York in 4 |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Colorado v. Philadelphia - Rockies in 4
Chicago v. Arizona - Cubs in 5
Los Angeles v. Boston - Boston in 3
New York v. Cleveland - New York in 4
Colorado v. Philadelphia - Phili in 4
Chicago v. Arizona - AZ in 4
Los Angeles v. Boston - LA in 5
New York v. Cleveland - New York in 4 |
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| keremoner |
You realize that you've picked all 4 series against common wisdom according to baseball analysts, with the possible exception of Chicago series? (not that that cannot happen)
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Originally posted by gmc74
Colorado v. Philadelphia - Phili in 4
Chicago v. Arizona - AZ in 4
Los Angeles v. Boston - LA in 5
New York v. Cleveland - New York in 4
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| laborlitigator |
I got 2 out of 3 right last night. . .
BTW, doesn't Boston own the Angels? |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
I got 2 out of 3 right last night. . .
BTW, doesn't Boston own the Angels?
I dont think so. They showed the Angel's owner in the stands last night.
Actually, all kidding aside, I would not say that they own the Angels, but they do "own" Lacey. |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by keremoner
You realize that you've picked all 4 series against common wisdom according to baseball analysts, with the possible exception of Chicago series? (not that that cannot happen)
Didn't realize that, I don't really spend too much time in the sports section these days... those were just my off the cuff predictions. |
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| Maik |
Gotta love the announcers they used last night. After spending half the broadcast telling how Becket has reinvented himself as a complete pitcher and talking about his maturity...then the show a flashback to his 2003 playoffs and exclaim that he is the same pitcher!
Then in the 8th, they announce that the ground ball to short is a tailor made double play ball....oops there are two outs already!
There were several others, but those are the ones that come to mind. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Those are national announcer. They don't really follow the teams. |
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| gmc74 |
quote:
Originally posted by gmc74
Colorado v. Philadelphia - Phili in 4
Chicago v. Arizona - AZ in 4
Los Angeles v. Boston - LA in 5
New York v. Cleveland - New York in 4
Looks like I didn't do so well on the Col v Phili guess, AZ may beat my prediction, and the other two are still up in the air. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by gmc74
Looks like I didn't do so well on the Col v Phili guess, AZ may beat my prediction, and the other two are still up in the air.
I couldn't pick Philly with the pitching they've got. As for the Cubs, maybe it's just not their year (again). |
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| keremoner |
Allright, here is my 2 cents worth:
Col vs Phi Col in 4 Col vs Az Col in 4
Chi vs Az Az in 5
LA vs Bos Bos in 4 Bos vs Ny Bos in 4
NY vs Cle NY in 5
WS ....... Bos in 5 (or if NY beats Bos, then NY in 5)
(gmc74, waiting for you to call me a homer) |
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| gmc74 |
Yeah, you are. The Red Sox didn't exactly burst into the play offs on a tear, but they are here and doing well against the Angels.
I figured Colorado shot their load getting to the playoffs, but I may have been wrong. D-backs put the cubs out of their misery, bring on the Rockies!
I love how everyone has discounted Arizona, even after they had the best record in the NL. They have no superstars, just a bunch of players that go out and win. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Colorado v. Philadelphia - Rockies in 4
Chicago v. Arizona - Cubs in 5
Los Angeles v. Boston - Boston in 3
New York v. Cleveland - New York in 4
I've got 2 out of 3 right. Hopefully, I get 3 out of 4. |
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| laborlitigator |
Still down 2-1
I would start Wang, even with that Game 1 performance. Mussina worries me.
On the other end, makes me wonder why the Tribe is going with Byrd rather than Sabathia in Game 4 and Carmona in Game 5 (if necessary). |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Still down 2-1
I would start Wang, even with that Game 1 performance. Mussina worries me.
On the other end, makes me wonder why the Tribe is going with Byrd rather than Sabathia in Game 4 and Carmona in Game 5 (if necessary).
That is kind of odd, think they are trying to save him for Boston? Either way, the first game in Boston isn't until Friday.
Yanks have a mostly lefty lineup, I am shocked that they wouldn't want to throw the lefty out there, unless they thing righty vs A Rod and Jeter is more important than lefty vs everyone else. |
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| laborlitigator |
Looks like the Yanks will be alot different next year.
No Torre, A-Rod or Abreu |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Looks like the Yanks will be alot different next year.
No Torre, A-Rod or Abreu
Yeah, I think crazy george needs to think that through.
So I was 1-3 for the divisions.
I am going to take the Sox in 6 and the Dbacks in 7. If it works out where the Sox play the Dbacks, then maybe homer will wager with me. Something simple, like the loser has to use the other teams logo as their avatar until the end of the year :) |
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| keremoner |
They remind me of the 2001 Pats
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I love how everyone has discounted Arizona, even after they had the best record in the NL. They have no superstars, just a bunch of players that go out and win.
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| keremoner |
I am game for that.
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Originally posted by gmc74
Yeah, I think crazy george needs to think that through.
So I was 1-3 for the divisions.
I am going to take the Sox in 6 and the Dbacks in 7. If it works out where the Sox play the Dbacks, then maybe homer will wager with me. Something simple, like the loser has to use the other teams logo as their avatar until the end of the year :)
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| gmc74 |
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I am game for that.
Let's see if they get there, and if they do it is on.
The Dbacks have a tougher road, IMO. The sox should discard Cle with relative ease.
We can up the ante a bit, how about if the Sox get there and the dbacks don't, I have to use a Sox avatar until 1/1, if the Dbacks get there and the Sox don't, then you have to use a Dbacks avatar until 1/1? |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by gmc74
The Dbacks have a tougher road, IMO. The sox should discard Cle with relative ease.
I wish I had your confidence...Indians have an excellent pitching staff and a formidable lineup. Should be a very good series. I would be very surprised if it did not go 7. |
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| keremoner |
That is fine with me. I'd be happy to see the Dbacks there or to win it since I lived in AZ for two years (83-85) while attending grad school. I guess you can call me a homer on that one too if you wish.
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Originally posted by gmc74
Let's see if they get there, and if they do it is on.
The Dbacks have a tougher road, IMO. The sox should discard Cle with relative ease.
We can up the ante a bit, how about if the Sox get there and the dbacks don't, I have to use a Sox avatar until 1/1, if the Dbacks get there and the Sox don't, then you have to use a Dbacks avatar until 1/1?
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by keremoner
That is fine with me. I'd be happy to see the Dbacks there or to win it since I lived in AZ for two years (83-85) while attending grad school. I guess you can call me a homer on that one too if you wish.
Ok, the bet is set.
If the Sox make the series and the Dbacks don't or if the Sox beat the Dbacks in the World Series, I will "wear" a Sox avatar on this site until the end of the year.
If the Dbacks make the series and the Sox don't or if the Dbacks beat the Sox in the World Series, you will "wear" a dbacks avatar on this site until the end of the year.
If neither team makes it, then all bets are off.
I wouldn't call you a homer for AZ unless you were on every thread talking about the Dbacks, Cards, Suns and Coyotes winning championships. The Dbacks have a 1 in 4 shot (better than I would have given them at the start of the season, I would have guessed 1 in 4 million) and the Suns have a good shot, the others, well, they suck. |
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| keremoner |
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Originally posted by gmc74
Ahh the Suns. I used to go watch them when Dennis Johnson played. Then, I watched him play for the Celtics in mid 80s in the Garden. Good old days.
Ok, the bet is set.
If the Sox make the series and the Dbacks don't or if the Sox beat the Dbacks in the World Series, I will "wear" a Sox avatar on this site until the end of the year.
If the Dbacks make the series and the Sox don't or if the Dbacks beat the Sox in the World Series, you will "wear" a dbacks avatar on this site until the end of the year.
If neither team makes it, then all bets are off.
I wouldn't call you a homer for AZ unless you were on every thread talking about the Dbacks, Cards, Suns and Coyotes winning championships. The Dbacks have a 1 in 4 shot (better than I would have given them at the start of the season, I would have guessed 1 in 4 million) and the Suns have a good shot, the others, well, they suck.
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| gmc74 |
You must have seen him at the Madhouse on McDowell, the old arena here with the funny looking roof that looks like a skate board ramp.
I am not a huge NBA fan, I have been to a couple of Suns games. I am a huge NCAA fan, and a homer for the Uconn Huskies! I live and die Uconn basketball.
The addiction runs deep, I have a room in my house painted Uconn blue and white, with a Uconn border and all Uconn decorations. I have a piece of the floor from '99 when they won their first Championship. Signed basketballs, pictures, etc...
Growing up in CT you didn't have a lot of hometown sports teams, except ofcourse, the Hartford Failures... now the Carolina Huricanes. |
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| keremoner |
I used to go see their games once in a while too, when I lived in Springfield, MA
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Growing up in CT you didn't have a lot of hometown sports teams, except ofcourse, the Hartford Failures... now the Carolina Huricanes.
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by gmc74
Yeah, I think crazy george needs to think that through.
So I was 1-3 for the divisions.
I am going to take the Sox in 6 and the Dbacks in 7. If it works out where the Sox play the Dbacks, then maybe homer will wager with me. Something simple, like the loser has to use the other teams logo as their avatar until the end of the year :)
If the Sox don't win it all, I'd be very surprised. None of those teams stacks up to them in pitching or hitting. |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
If the Sox don't win it all, I'd be very surprised. None of those teams stacks up to them in pitching or hitting.
Are you nuts?
Didn't you see the 2 young stud 19 game winners? How about the bullpen? The only place in pitching I give the edge to the Sox to is the closer.
As for the offense, I would say they are very close.
I see this series going 7. It is not going to be an easy time for either team. I also think that these are the best two teams in the AL so it is a fitting series. |
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| laborlitigator |
| They are the best two teams. As for the Cleveland pitching, you've had their number the whole year. If your Sox don't win it all, it should be considered a disappointment. |
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| gmc74 |
| The thing that has to be scary for what ever AL team makes it is that the Rockies and Dbacks expected to be battleing it out for last place in the division, not the NLCS. Which ever team makes it to the WS will have exceeded their goals for the year and won't feel the pressure that the Sox will feel. |
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| laborlitigator |
| Fair enough. On paper, they should not be tested. Only the Yankees could have beaten them. |
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| laborlitigator |
If the Yanks let him go, they're nuts! But not for Torre, they don't make it to their 13th consecutive post season.
As for the rest of the team, they should move Joba to starter and resign Mariano along with Pettitte. As for the rest, I'd let Posada and A-Rod go because I don't want a 36 year old catcher and a guy who wants an 11 year contract.
Then, next year when Mussina and Giambi's contracts are done, they can look to add Santana who wants out of Minnesota. |
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| gmc74 |
On one hand, I would keep Torre because he is by far one of the best in the business. On the other hand, he hasn't been able to get it done with the best available talent money can buy.
The Yankees haven't won a championship since 2000, and for most teams that is fine. Hell, the Sox went a bit longer than that... For the Yankees, and Steinbrenner, it isn't acceptable. They have averaged about a title every 4 years over their history, which makes this "drought" almost as bad as the 80s.
I think if you want to keep the star players, A-Rod, Pettite, and even Posada, you better keep Torre. If you don't plan on keeping those guys, then you might as well let Torre go and try to start fresh. |
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| keremoner |
I agree on all except they need to get rid of Giambi at any cost. He has outlived his usefulness and has been comitting costly errors.
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
If the Yanks let him go, they're nuts! But not for Torre, they don't make it to their 13th consecutive post season.
As for the rest of the team, they should move Joba to starter and resign Mariano along with Pettitte. As for the rest, I'd let Posada and A-Rod go because I don't want a 36 year old catcher and a guy who wants an 11 year contract.
Then, next year when Mussina and Giambi's contracts are done, they can look to add Santana who wants out of Minnesota.
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| Maik |
Sorry to say this but the Yankees are in big trouble. They are about to blow up and I would expect a VERY different team next year. They are OLD and will undergo a huge transformation in the offseason.
Torre needs to go...time for new blood. |
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| keremoner |
I guess I can't lose anymore but the way Sox looked I am not too hopefull for seeing you wear a BoSox avatar. (unless the bats come alive)
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Originally posted by gmc74
Ok, the bet is set.
If the Sox make the series and the Dbacks don't or if the Sox beat the Dbacks in the World Series, I will "wear" a Sox avatar on this site until the end of the year.
If the Dbacks make the series and the Sox don't or if the Dbacks beat the Sox in the World Series, you will "wear" a dbacks avatar on this site until the end of the year.
If neither team makes it, then all bets are off.
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