| sushix |
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She is a very lucky person. This really make you think when you are buying car.
2006 SUV Rollover Rating, MDX is 15%. |
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| G. COLTON |
Why do you think this was so unusual? Lots of people survive roll over accidents IF they are wearing their seat belt.
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| sushix |
| I am not saying it is unusual. I am impressed by the video clip. It just make you think before you buying a car. Safety issue should be on top priority. |
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| eurohazard |
The link isn't working for me. Is this the one from a cop's dash camera? Car "A" merges on the freeway. Car "B" darts over in to the fast lane" Car "C" (Explorer) panics, and swerves left offroad into the median, then slams the wheel to the right, and hits pavement, then "trips" her SUV into a roll?
Poor move twice in 2 seconds. Car B never even made contact with the Explorer. She should have just let the guy hit her. Or if she felt she absolutely had to swerve, she should have just rode it out in the median, then slowly got back on the roadway.
Side note to the MDX's 15% rollover. That is an amazing feat! The only other "SUV's" that beat the MDX are at least one full inch lower to the ground, and have at least one full inch less ground clearance. |
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| mdxforever |
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Originally posted by eurohazard
Is this the one from a cop's dash camera? Car "A" merges on the freeway. Car "B" darts over in to the fast lane" Car "C" (Explorer) panics, and swerves left offroad into the median, then slams the wheel to the right, and hits pavement, then "trips" her SUV into a roll?
I did not see this clip but from the still image it looks like its the same one.
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Originally posted by eurohazard
Poor move twice in 2 seconds. Car B never even made contact with the Explorer. She should have just let the guy hit her. Or if she felt she absolutely had to swerve, she should have just rode it out in the median, then slowly got back on the roadway.
She was probably applying lipstick and talking on the cellphone at the same time, cigarette in mouth.
Needless to say all her rear view mirrors were probably pointing to herself - instead of the traffic/road. Not surprised, nothing new. Just be glad she didn't get someone killed. |
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| sushix |
| Here is the direct download link of the video, right click and save |
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| eurohazard |
Yep that's the same one I saw before. I mean.......the retard in the middle lane who freaked out (either because he saw the cop in his rear-view.....or panicked from the merging CR-V) was the "cause" of the whole accident.
But better driving on the Explorer's part would have made this a neat "almost got into a wreck" story, instead of national news. |
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| nightguy |
There are a million things she could have done differently, which is easy to say looking at this video now. An evasive action was needed, she happened to pick the wrong one. Hard braking would have probably been best but could still have resulted in a spin out and rollover.
I disagree with maintaining the lane. If you've ever seen a police vehicle P.I.T. a fleeing suspect, you know why. Had they made contact, she'd probably have the same result given the speeds.
Yep. Lots of people survive rollovers, but this was more like something you see in auto racing...several rolls but without the specialized safety equipment. She could easily have been T-boned by an oncoming car, or come to rest in the middle of the highway and been T-boned. |
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| mdxx3 |
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Originally posted by sushix
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ESC Equipped Vehicles
I wonder why the Volvo cars have this as an option and not as standard equipment.:confused:
(I don't think people use Volvo's for drifting...:p) |
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| Dog |
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Originally posted by mdxforever
I did not see this clip but from the still image it looks like its the same one.
She was probably applying lipstick and talking on the cellphone at the same time, cigarette in mouth.
Needless to say all her rear view mirrors were probably pointing to herself - instead of the traffic/road. Not surprised, nothing new. Just be glad she didn't get someone killed.
Thanks for the misogynistic interpretation. :headslap: However, it appears that the car in the middle lane did hit her sending her into the median. Once she tried to correct, it would not be hard to overcorrect with her rear wheels still on the grass. Though I'll grant that she did screw up trying to cut back onto the road too quickly.
If anything, this video demostrates the danger of SUV rollovers and why SUVs are not safer than cars (except the MDX, of course!). |
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| BaldEagle |
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Originally posted by nightguy
There are a million things she could have done differently, which is easy to say looking at this video now. An evasive action was needed, she happened to pick the wrong one. Hard braking would have probably been best but could still have resulted in a spin out and rollover.
Hard braking in the fast lane of a freeway would not be the best action IMO.
This rollover was caused by an overcorrection and was very preventable.
After the initial evasive action to the left the critical mistake was an over correction steering action to the right in an attempt to turn the SUV back on the freeway. She should have not attempted to return to the freeway and just rode it out in the median just to the left of the fast lane. Rather than use the brakes in the gravel she could have taken her foot off the gas pedal and slowly came to a stop. |
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| mdxforever |
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Originally posted by Dog
Thanks for the misogynistic interpretation.
call it whatever you like, doesn't change a thing, unfortunately.
oh btw I was going to say it was a double oversteer, but then again that's possible only if she had her hands on the steering wheel. :21: |
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| nightguy |
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Originally posted by BaldEagle
She should have not attempted to return to the freeway and just rode it out in the median just to the left of the fast lane. Rather than use the brakes in the gravel she could have taken her foot off the gas pedal and slowly came to a stop.
I agree with that in most instances. In the midwest however, the left ditches tend to be deep and drop off quickly to aid snow removal. The likelihood of her rolling over (and maybe ending up in oncoming traffic) is just as great as it would be with the oversteer. |
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| BaldEagle |
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Originally posted by nightguy
I agree with that in most instances. In the midwest however, the left ditches tend to be deep and drop off quickly to aid snow removal. The likelihood of her rolling over (and maybe ending up in oncoming traffic) is just as great as it would be with the oversteer.
It appeared that where this happened the median did not have undrivable ditches. |
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| nightguy |
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Originally posted by BaldEagle
It appeared that where this happened the median did not have undrivable ditches.
Not as bad as some but if you look at the tree on the left before she crosses the road, there's a quick drop there. |
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| MMVIMDX |
| It appears that there actually was vehicle contact that started the Explorer's problems. What galls me is that it appears at the end of the video that both the merging vehicle (which nearly got taken out by the rollover) and the car that sideswiped her just kept on going instead of stopping. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by MMVIMDX
It appears that there actually was vehicle contact that started the Explorer's problems. What galls me is that it appears at the end of the video that both the merging vehicle (which nearly got taken out by the rollover) and the car that sideswiped her just kept on going instead of stopping.
That happened to me many years ago. I was driving at night in the number one lane ... 2 other lanes were 'pyloned off' for construction.
There was a small curved path formed by pylons for folks entering the freeway.
I was about 1/2 mile from the end of that path doing about 60. This $%&#@ comes zooming along the curved path without slowing . .like not even seeing me and never slowing down...I could not believe it.. I had my lights on, leaning on my horn, shouting to the heavens.. WTF!!! this jerk kept coming like I did not exist.. I braked hard.. older car, '82 Celica, no ABS in those days.. and the idiot just sped up in front of me as my car began to fishtail.. I tried to modulate the brake to no avail.. the only thing to the left of me was broken pavement right up to the steel barrier about 6 feet away..and I could feel the tires losing the battle....by the time he was nothing but two tiny tail lights in the dark, my car spun out 180.. .as if a hand was guiding it... slowly slid over to the right through 2 rows of pylons and stopping in a pile of dirt.
Hard enough to take out the front end, including all the lights.
I drove the 'hulk' back home in a daze. I thought of calling the police, I did not have a license plate number, or even an accurate description. Hell, it was all I could do to survive.
This idiot got away. I thought maybe I should have sped up so he (or she) could clip me, as they got into the lane.. etc. etc. every possible scenario went through my head. Maybe I should have headed to the right earlier to avoid him, but I had no idea what those pylons were supposed to be protecting me from.. it was totally dark everywhere except directly in front of me.
I was just happy to be alive.
Hindsight can generate all kinds of 'should haves' and 'would haves' but it changes nothing. And you can not know what you would have done if you are not there. Hopefully you do the right thing, and the best thing is what has the greatest chance of saving life, most preferably your own, and those closest to you. |
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| sushix |
Jeep Liberty did not do too well in rollover test from autoweek.
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| wmquan |
Here's a rolled over MDX:
And another:
Best defense of a rollover is to drive sensibly.
But, sometimes, it's unavoidable, no matter what vehicle you're in, and how carefully you drive. Then you have to hope the vehicle's roof is strong enough.
Take the 15% "rollover resistance" of the MDX with a grain of salt. That's just a calculated percentage based on the height of the center of gravity vs. the width of the vehicle's front and rear tracks. The MDX does well in this mathematical model because it is a wide vehicle, which should help with stability in some accidents.
But the mathematical model for the 15% does not factor in things like vehicle dynamics, effectiveness of the stability control system, suspension dynamics, and bad driving.
I hope that Acura will announce some details of any roof/pillar reinforcement in the new MDX. Granted that there's no empirical test to compare them. But it'd be great for Acura to step up and talk about whether they're using HSLA steel or similarly reinforced pillars. |
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| BigHersh |
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Originally posted by wmquan
Here's a rolled over MDX:
And another:
MotorWeek, or some videomagazine was at a place where Volve was rolling XC90's on purpose, and that SUV (touted at the time as the only SUV) that coudl roll over, and it's roof not collapse. In fact, in one test, the SUV was dropped on it's roof, and the roof supported the entier weight of the vehicle.
I wanted one since that day, but never quite think "Volvo" whenever I get the itch ot go car shopping. But, if you want maximum safety, Volvo is hard to beat. |
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