| texrb |
Thanks for posting the pics. I, for one, think the '07 MDX is VERY ugly in those pics & would not buy one. I think it is over styled & I think Acura missed the boat on this one. :(
Having said that, I am sure there are many on this forum that love the new style & disagree with me - that's what makes life interesting! |
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| td284 |
| It's hard to tell with the camouflage still on in places, but it looks bigger and less aggressive. I was hoping it would have a more athletic stance like the X5. The dash looks WAY busy too. At least it should have all those features and detail fixes we've been crying about (the RDX has most of them). |
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| sma |
| yeah... from these pics, all I can say is "meh" |
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| oilchange |
| I see a tapering rear side window like the Pontiac Vibe. I hope rear visibility will not get worse. When the rear window get smaller and farther away, visibility gets worse. |
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| Warzau |
| :crying: Is all I have to say the interior looks like a civic on steroids |
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| freq |
| I hope it looks better in person................ :( |
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| MDX4now |
Gosh, I was kind of happy to see the pictures, as the grille looks toned down from the concept (thank god) and the interior doesn't look like a 1999 Acura TL/Honda Odyssey anymore. BUT, there sure are a lot of buttons
I will agree on the third row window (hate it), as I'm sure rear visibility WILL go down. I think windows like that ala the Lexus RX350, old Taurus wagon, etc. are plain weird.
And while the new one does seem to look slightly more generic now, at least I won't get the new MDX backside mixed up with the blatant ripoff of the Honda Passport and Rodeo anymore. :rolleyes: |
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| BaldEagle |
From the rear it has the looks of an Odyssey. From the front....Bucky Beaver.
Not very impressive. Because of the looks I probably won't be buying a MDX when I buy a new vehicle in the next year or two. |
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| BlueStreak |
Sure looks an awful lot like an RDX. And Acura is trying to "up size" this in terms of product and price, correct?
Also anyone notice the comment about being on sale in early 2007 as a 2008 model? So how would this play out? No '07 model? Why would anyone buy an 07 on current platform when it changes in a few short months? Maybe they are further in testing than we think, but Oct is not far from now. |
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| sushix |
I am disappointed by the interior design. The dash looks too busy and remain "Honda" like. It lack the luxry feel like the RX330. I don't understand why they could not come out with a better design. There is a lot of things they could do. For example, the air vent still look generic and they did not do anything about it. Japanese Odyssy has nice interior. Why can they some of the design for the MDX?
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| screbr |
Not too excited yet....
- I don't like the sloping lines toward the rear end. I seems like it would reduce visibility, and it makes it seem like it's sagging.
- Why are the wheels different in the front versus the back?
Thanks for the pics though |
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| freq |
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Originally posted by screbr
- Why are the wheels different in the front versus the back?
They're not IMO, looks like some tape on just some of the spokes to "disguise" it and make the vehicle less pleasing to the eye. YMMV. |
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| pdempsey |
Thanks for the Pix. I bought my 2003 off lease (I was $5,000 in the black on it) and was waiting for the 2007's to see what they have.
The rear looks like it's squatting a little. I'm not real crazy about the rear either.
I hope it looks better in person.
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by Echo2625
Your links don't work....
They worked for me last night. Looks like Temple of VTEC is down. It'll probably be back up later today.
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| mdxx3 |
The new MDX does look pretty sporty! :29:
So, they once said they tuned it at Nurburgring... did they say it's over 10, or under 10?? |
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| BigHersh |
The electronics on the center console looks very busy.
Too busy...
Busier than a one-legged man at an ass-kicking contest.
:D
I like the cover over the navigation system. Very Infiniti/BMW of them- and smart because it'll reduce glare and keep it visible, even in the brightest sun. (A mistake Lexus is learning on the new gen GS300/430"
I don't like the fall off as it slopes to the rear. Although I'll never find myself that far in the back unless I'm loading groceries, or bags (never sitting), but that's GOT to compromise 3rd rown head room, not to mentin 3rd row rider's safety (rising seat lines, falling roof line= bad combination).
Overall, I'm happy with it... Although it may be a classier vehicle electronics wise; the 2001 - 2006 generation will still be viable, once this hits the market, if it hits the market as is. |
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| vicpai |
.....Whoa, I think it looks waaay better than the concept. The production version has much less front overhang :29: ....rear overhang seems a bit less too!! ......While I'm not "blown away" by the styling, like I was with the production RDX, all in all I think it is pretty neat. Many have complained about things like the sloping rear roofline etc., but these same folks don't realize that these design cues are necessary for good aerodynamics .....Like I said I don't put too much weight into things like "styling", as functionality of the vehicle (aerodynamics, performance etc. etc. ) are far more important.
That said, the center console of the dash looks a bit "busy", but I'm sure it will be very easy to use like in other Acura vehicles. It seems to have gotten the "jog/shuttle" i-drive type DIAL as in the RL, for Navigation input and other functions....so no more touchscreen. When this system debuted in the RL, I was not too happy. However, after testing it out, I was totally amazed at how intuitive and user friendly it actually was .....and the upside is, no fingerprints to smudge on the screen.
Besides this, the underbody looks "clean" and well integrated, with everything "tucked in" nicely, unlike the current MDX!! However, most importantly, it does not seem to be significantly longer than the current MDX, which is a HUGE relief to me!!! ....YES, YES, YES!!! :29: :29: ..... AT THE MOST it is probably an inch or two longer, if that!! :29: ......Well, I know this is my next vehicle!! |
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| Paul S. |
| The only possible regret I had about ordering an Audi Q7 in May to replace our MDX was not waiting to see what Acura would do with the 2007 MDX redesign. No regrets now based on those pictures. Looking forward to the arrival of our Q7 in August. |
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| BigHersh |
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Originally posted by Paul S.
The only possible regret I had about ordering an Audi Q7 in May to replace our MDX was not waiting to see what Acura would do with the 2007 MDX redesign. No regrets now based on those pictures. Looking forward to the arrival of our Q7 in August.
After seeing numerous Q7 commercials in recent weeks, I like it too...
The butt looks very RDXish on it though...
I think there may have been some cross-polination in their respective design bureaus. :cool:
How much are Q's running? |
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| one4gatr |
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Originally posted by BigHersh
The electronics on the center console looks very busy.
Too busy...
Busier than a one-legged man at an ass-kicking contest.
:D
I like the cover over the navigation system. Very Infiniti/BMW of them- and smart because it'll reduce glare and keep it visible, even in the brightest sun. (A mistake Lexus is learning on the new gen GS300/430"
I don't like the fall off as it slopes to the rear. Although I'll never find myself that far in the back unless I'm loading groceries, or bags (never sitting), but that's GOT to compromise 3rd rown head room, not to mentin 3rd row rider's safety (rising seat lines, falling roof line= bad combination).
Overall, I'm happy with it... Although it may be a classier vehicle electronics wise; the 2001 - 2006 generation will still be viable, once this hits the market, if it hits the market as is.
WOW.. if this is indeed the finished version less some minor refinements to the interior then :mblah:
The current gen INHO is much better looking. I think Acura tried to over do it here. I will reserve my final judgement until I see one in person but with my lease coming up really quick I think perhaps its time to move on........ |
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| BigHersh |
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Originally posted by one4gatr
WOW.. if this is indeed the finished version less some minor refinements to the interior then :mblah:
The current gen INHO is much better looking. I think Acura tried to over do it here. I will reserve my final judgement until I see one in person but with my lease coming up really quick I think perhaps its time to move on........
Yeah, that has to be a test bed, because if my eyes aren't deceiving me, that looks like an "aftermarket" XM radio, laying flat on something, just ahead of the soda can in the middle console.
I'm sure (at least I hope it won't be) the production MDX will not be nearly as busy...
Acura, if you're listening...
Bring the Cassette back, and give us a real stereo. Somethign in the same vein as Infiniti's M class.
How about a 14:2 DVD Audio system, with 700 watts, the (2) being 2 REALLY GOOD subwoofers, that don't rattle/vibrate. Drop Bose and put some Alpine or Fosgate equipment in there!:cool: |
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| Paul S. |
BigHersh,
The Q7 is a foot longer than the current MDX so it is much bigger than the RDX. The taillights on the RDX are the exact same as my A4 avant...so I wonder who copied who on which vehicle. The base 4.2 Q7 is $50K and a loaded 4.2 is around $60K. $60K includes a video parking system, radar warning for blind spots, keyless starting, a huge sunroof, navigation, real Bose, extra soft leather and much more. I went with a base model plus air suspension for extra clearance in snow & sand. There are also 3.6 V6 models coming and maybe the 3.0 TDI that is now available in Europe. It's not inexpensive but compared to your friend's GL, it may be a better value for your money. |
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| BigHersh |
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Originally posted by Paul S.
BigHersh,
The Q7 is a foot longer than the current MDX so it is much bigger than the RDX. The taillights on the RDX are the exact same as my A4 avant...so I wonder who copied who on which vehicle. The base 4.2 Q7 is $50K and a loaded 4.2 is around $60K. $60K includes a video parking system, radar warning for blind spots, keyless starting, a huge sunroof, navigation, real Bose, extra soft leather and much more. I went with a base model plus air suspension for extra clearance in snow & sand. There are also 3.6 V6 models coming and maybe the 3.0 TDI that is now available in Europe. It's not inexpensive but compared to your friend's GL, it may be a better value for your money.
Understood,
I was not dissing the Q in any way, nor accusing them of copying designs. A lot of that goes on. (Look at an Accord coupe's tail lights, then look at a C230 Coupe's). ANd, the Sonota is so close to being an Accord, I think I actually prefer the Sonata's looks over the Accord's. Not to mention the Kia Sorento's "Mini-me" style, sitting next to a current-gen MDX.
Look how so many manufacturers have "Bangle-ized" their car designs. Many give Chris Bangle crap and props for the current design theme of the Bimmers, which has now bled into many manufacturers (See Toyota). But, the look that I see when I look at the Bangle Bimmers, is reminiscent of the Chrysler cars from the late 90's. (Sirrus/Stratus, etc sedans) Look at the trunk bulge and flares...
But, gettign back to the Q; I like it.
60K puts it out of my price range for now (unless we drop down to 2 cars) ; but with 32 months left on my lease (if I can last that long) who knows! :2: I may be able to roll with the big dawgs! |
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| Happyowner |
| I have to admit, im rather happy my wife and i got decided to give our daughter our MDX and now we are sharing our GL till the Q7 comes in, sometime in late august. With that rear slope, do you think the back seat (3rd) is going to be compromised, or do will it have the same amount of head room as the current one. Also what engine is this going to have? The same 3.5 just twicked alittle different? |
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| BigHersh |
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Originally posted by Happyowner
I have to admit, im rather happy my wife and i got decided to give our daughter our MDX and now we are sharing our GL till the Q7 comes in, sometime in late august. With that rear slope, do you think the back seat (3rd) is going to be compromised, or do will it have the same amount of head room as the current one. Also what engine is this going to have? The same 3.5 just twicked alittle different?
3.5 will probably get the nod again...
I'm sure Honda snoops this site, and probably other's like it- so I'm sure they know about the in-city fuel economy, or lack thereof. So, I'm sure it'll be re-geared in a manner to take advantage of the torque spread across the gears, probably moreso than in 1st gear; either that or they'll reduce the tow rating... I mean, I don't see many (read "any") MDX's towing anything... That's what F-150's are for!
It'll need at least 280 - 330 HP to remain competitive (RX350 = 270 HP, FX45 = 315 ~ and probably due for a makeover soon); especially with downscale vehicles offering nearly the same HP rating (V6 Toyota RAV4). Increase power and increase fuel economy....
It's doable- Chevrolet did it with the new Tahoe & Suburban (which get 22 MPG on the highway), and Nissan did it when they upgraded the Maxima.
I have confidence in Honda- they are innovative in a lot of ways, and offer many pleasant surprises that don't always show from simply looking. For as much as we know what the MDX will look like, and "perform" like (From the videos). We won't really know until it hits the showroom, and test drives are taken. |
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| maddawg995 |
| Not sure if it's my monitor or what but the picture looks really weird. Like the car's being squashed or something. Reminds of a Quest with some cargo. |
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| ByeByeChrysler |
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| vicpai |
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Originally posted by BigHersh
3.5 will probably get the nod again...
I'm sure Honda snoops this site, and probably other's like it- so I'm sure they know about the in-city fuel economy, or lack thereof. So, I'm sure it'll be re-geared in a manner to take advantage of the torque spread across the gears, probably moreso than in 1st gear; either that or they'll reduce the tow rating... I mean, I don't see many (read "any") MDX's towing anything... That's what F-150's are for!
It'll need at least 280 - 330 HP to remain competitive (RX350 = 270 HP, FX45 = 315 ~ and probably due for a makeover soon); especially with downscale vehicles offering nearly the same HP rating (V6 Toyota RAV4). Increase power and increase fuel economy....
It's doable- Chevrolet did it with the new Tahoe & Suburban (which get 22 MPG on the highway), and Nissan did it when they upgraded the Maxima.
......in 2 or 3 places, the engine is going to be a 3.7 liter V6 good for around 300bhp and approx. 280lb.ft. of torque. The "insider" said that the displacement figure is accurate, but the torque and hp figures are vague estimates.
That said, the V6 Toyota RAV4 is in a class by itself. Here you've got an SUV that puts out a screaming 270 horses from it's 3.5L V6 going from ZERO TO 60 in a stunning (by 4WD SUV standards) 6.3 secs!!!!* :eek: :eek: .....and in the same breath gives you 21city and 28hwy to boot!!! :eek: ....how incredible is that!! :eek:
*Car and driver Jan '06
....and here is a direct quote from that Car and Driver article:
........"The Equinox and similarly sized Ford Escape offer V6s, too, but not with the red-hot intensity of the RAV's 269-hp, 3.5-liter V6. In the RAV, the curtain comes down on 60mph in 6.3 seconds, which is just 0.4 second behind a Hemi V-8-powered Dodge Magnum AWD and about two seconds ahead of the RAV's competitors."......
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I have confidence in Honda- they are innovative in a lot of ways, and offer many pleasant surprises that don't always show from simply looking. For as much as we know what the MDX will look like, and "perform" like (From the videos). We won't really know until it hits the showroom, and test drives are taken.
....don't be so sure. Honda does not ALWAYS come thru. Sometimes they are all talk and no action......just take the RDX for example. That is one PATHETIC underachiever of a vehicle.
By sharp contrast to the aforementioned RAV4, the grossly underperforming Acura RDX, with it's so called supposedly ultra fuel efficient :rolleyes: "turbocharged 4 banger" is estimated to do zero to 60 in around 7.5 to 8.0 secs (a Mazda CX7 with a very similar turbo 4 like the RDX has been tested by C&D and does 0-60 in 7.8 secs) ......and now for the good part: Honda's definition of "excellent" fuel economy for the RDX, and the whole reason they claim to have gone the 4-banger route .......DRUMROLL PLEASE ......a whopping 19city and 23hwy :rolleyes: (FYI, that is a measly 2mpg more city and SAME hwy figure as the CURRENT MDX)
......It is beyond the pale how STUPID with a capital S, these people can be!!!....I'm sure even a 3rd grader will know enough to realize that you don't put a 4 banger in a vehicle that weighs nearly 4000lbs, is saddled with a power-sapping SH-AWD system, and is nowhere near as aerodynamic as a passenger vehicle. I don't care if that 4-banger is supercharged, hyperdriven, rocket propelled or whatever. YOU SIMPLY DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!! .....the 3.5 V6 in the RL barely manages to get the job done, FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD!! :rolleyes: .....OTOH, Toyota was very very very wise to put a 3.5 V6 in the RAV4, and look where it has gotten them!! ......when you do stuff like they've done with the RDX's powerplant, you don't get great fuel economy or efficiency, but the complete opposite of the desired effect. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure that one out!! :rolleyes:
.....Mazda is a company full of r*tarded people as can be seen with what they've done with the CX7 ......but C'mon Honda, I don't expect this from you!!!....Hellllooo...is someone listening??....up until this RDX fiasco Honda has resisted doing these stupid things just "for the sake of being different" (actually not giving the RL a V8 was also not that great an idea, but certainly nowhere near as asinine as putting a 4 cylinder engine in a 4000lb SUV of all things)
Now all that said, I think the 3.7L V6 in the MDX will be a whole different kettle of fish. Can you imagine a vehicle that is significantly more powerful, significantly bigger and significantly heavier, giving BETTER (or even the same) fuel economy than it's smaller sibling!!!....That's going to the case....and it's going to be pretty weird to explain. A feeling in my gut says the new MDX will be rated something like 18 or 19city and 24 or 25hwy
Another point to consider is that Honda has announced that in a couple years, their SUVs and trucks will get clean diesel technology (see press release link below)....I say ABOUT TIME!!!!......a V6 diesel Acura MDX with a BOATLOAD of low to midrange torque that gives something like 24city/30hwy will be be a DREAM COME TRUE in this era of $3+ a gallon and likely near-future era of $5+ .....note that Honda has developed an amazing diesel engine for Europe powering vehicles like the CRV, and it is said to be extremely smooth and quiet!!!...there's no reason we shouldn't be getting that same engine technology here in North America as well.
http://www.hondanews.com/CatID1000?...=asc&archives=t
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| vicpai |
.....quoted below from second link:
Product strategy
New Dedicated Hybrid Vehicle:
- Honda is now developing a new dedicated hybrid vehicle suitable for family use in major automobile markets in the world. With this new dedicated hybrid vehicle Honda will achieve further advancement of fuel efficient technologies and a major cost reduction, which will enable Honda to offer this vehicle in 2009 at a price level lower than the Civic Hybrid.
- Production of all-new, more-affordable, dedicated hybrid vehicle, including the hybrid unit, will be produced at Suzuka Factory. The worldwide sales plan is approximately 200,000 units per year that includes projected North American sales volume 100,000 units.
New Clean Diesel:
- Based on the current highly successful diesel engine currently sold in Europe, Honda is now developing a cleaner next-generation 4-cylinder diesel engine. This engine will meet the U.S. EPA's stringent Tier2 BIN5 emission standard requiring NOx emission levels equivalent to a gasoline-powered vehicle. Honda plans to introduce this super-clean diesel engine to market within the next three years.
- Honda will also work toward development of a clean V6 diesel engine.
- While improving the fuel efficiency of gasoline engines with Advanced VTEC, Advanced VCM, and other technologies, Honda will expand application of hybrid technology to smaller size vehicles and diesel technology to medium-to-large size vehicles. Thorough these comprehensive efforts leveraging the unique characteristics of each environmental technology, Honda will accelerate its effort to reduce CO2 emissions.
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