| Sparkie |
Go to a Toyota dealer - look at a Highlander or Sequioa - NO orange peel in the paint! Look at a Honda built in Marysville Ohio - no orange peel in the paint. Canada built MDX's are not built with the same care and quality as elsewhere. For a 50k vehicle the paint is sorry.
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| AtlantaMDX |
| This is pretty annoying. Has a poll ever been done to see if this is on all MDX's? If so, wouldn't this be class action suit material? Any lawyers out there? |
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| soesed |
| It's on my base beige, but I honestly wouldn't know anything about it if I hadn't read comments here. |
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| AtlantaMDX |
| Ironically, I looked for the orange peel paint when I took delivery and didn't notice it. It was an over cast day and I was excited. It was only later while washing it that I saw it. :eek: Fortunately, you have to know what you're looking for and be in the right light before you see it. |
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| JNanas |
I didn't notice it when test driving the MDX two months ago - however, I *did* notice it on a black RL sitting in the dealership I visited on Friday.
I think that the color of the vehicle plays a part - the darker vehicles make it more obvious.
There were some posts about this awhile back - namely mentioning stricter environmental laws that reduce certain compounds in paint, making the orange peel look stick out. I didn't notice it on other manufacturers vehicles, though - could this be a Canada thing? |
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| wmquan |
Hmmm there was a long thread a while back on orange peel paint. The question is the matter of degree. Apparently all vehicles, with the right color, with the right lighting, have some degree of orange peel. And it's a lot easier to see on a big vehicle like the MDX! So the $64,000 question is, does your vehicle have it excessively? And are MDX's more susceptible to it?
I remember posters seeing orange peel on $60,000 MB's with the right lighting. I noticed orange peel on a Subaru the other day when the sunlight hit it right. |
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| Sparkie |
William; I'm sure there are other makes and models that have orange peel, but in the same price class as Acura? No!
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| rlm32 |
| I was looking at a MB C class the other day and there was minimal orange peel. I think its on all cars nowadays, it probably has to do with the automation of the paint process. After seeing that, I didn't feel that bad. |
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| BarryH |
| I have an MDX and a TL-S. The paint on the MDX is far superior. I guess I'm lucky though, neither car had a single blemish or paint defect. |
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| Sparkie |
The paint on cars today has been automated for fifteen years or more. Not many production cars are painted by humans. So yesterday I walked around a Toyota lot and saw no orange peel on any of the new cars. The orange peel defect may be a product of the new water based paint, but Toyota is under the same restrictions and manages without the problems of the MDX paint. More likely it is the plant management not making the proper adjustments to the paint line. Put the blame where it belongs - on Acura production management.
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| mdxrb |
| I was also concerned about the orange peel problem, and most vehicles I've seen have this problem to some degree. My wife's cousin has a $100,000 CDN Ferrari ('89 328 GTS) that I saw the other day. Beautiful car, but guess what, it also had a degree of Orange peel. Yes, it was the original paint (grey). I don't think that mine was much worse than the Ferrari, but it is more noticeable because of the color and the size. I'm not too concerned about it any more. |
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| ghm2112 |
For me, the PERTINENT question is: does it make any difference in how the paint will weather. does anyone know the answer?
while I agree it is lame that Acura can't get it consistently right (damn Canadians!), I'm not going to get worked up about it unless it will adversely affect the durability of the vehicle in some way.
If it is a significant defect, then it may be time to push the issue...:D
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| AtlantaMDX |
So now we know where that "A" in Acura comes from... Canada Ah!
Now that's gotta be a first... calling Acura "those damn Canadians". Well as the song says "Blame it on Canada!". |
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| ghm2112 |
Atlanta:
your post had me LOL!:D Suddenly images of John Candy storming the border flew into my mind.
In light of the oh-so-lengthy discussion of xenophobia and the manufacturing of the modern automobile (see the "My wife wants to buy American" thread) I figured that I'd just cut to the chase and blame the Canadians. Aren't their expansionist policies and rampant consumerism the cause of all the world's ills?:D :D :D
BTW, how is the MDX A/C fairing in the Hotlanta summer? I was 5.5 yrs in NC and don't miss the summer days (although the warm nights were great if you could handle the skeeters).
Happy trails. |
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| wmquan |
quote:
(damn Canadians!)
Pssst ... admin is Canadian. (Canadmin?) |
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| AtlantaMDX |
quote:
Originally posted by ghm2112
Atlanta:
your post had me LOL!:D Suddenly images of John Candy storming the border flew into my mind.
In light of the oh-so-lengthy discussion of xenophobia and the manufacturing of the modern automobile (see the "My wife wants to buy American" thread) I figured that I'd just cut to the chase and blame the Canadians. Aren't their expansionist policies and rampant consumerism the cause of all the world's ills?:D :D :D
BTW, how is the MDX A/C fairing in the Hotlanta summer? I was 5.5 yrs in NC and don't miss the summer days (although the warm nights were great if you could handle the skeeters).
Happy trails.
I'm glad I was able to add a little levity to your day! Yeah, I've kept up with the "My Wife" thread.... Hey, Blame it on the Wife! :) Just kidding. Yeah, those Canadians are taking over everything! Where will it stop?!? :D
The X handles the heat pretty well. Although I'll admit there have been a few really hot afternoons. Your first summer in Atlanta is always the worst. Then you kinda get used to it.
On a different note, they (the infamous "they") have found some birds with the "West Nile" virus (which is carried by 'skeeters). So people have been a little stupid over that.
What's new in your neck of the woods? |
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| JNanas |
| You can't blame the Canadians - they've apologized for Bryan Adams on numerous occasions... |
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| ghm2112 |
But, Dorkus, I have yet to hear a SINGLE apology for Celene Dion, Labatts beer, that weird football field or Les Expos. And what's with that PM of their's? They only wish they could have a leader as worthy of admiration as Shrub... er I meen Bushe... uh Busch... uh Bush, yeah that's it.:D
Happy Trails |
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| JNanas |
| Good point - you left out curling though - the most offensive sport since Australian Rules Football ;) |
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| AtlantaMDX |
| Ah yes, Curling. Right up there with watching paint dry (or ice being swept) :p |
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| Ronsully |
| Is this thread about orange peel paint or curling? lol. Anyway, SS MDX and I can see orange peel. I guess I will have to live with it. Definitely do not want to wet sand and possibly booger up the finish permently. That Zaino works too well, the car is so shiny that the orange peel almost glows. |
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| lithe67 |
I've been searching high and low for information on my SS paint job. It's been driving me crazy. Ever since we took delivery, I've noticed a splotchiness to the paint, all over. I thought to myself, it can't be orange peel, everyone seems to describe it as a roughness or texture problem, whereas mine feels smooth. It just looks like they have kids lined up with spray cans in the assembly plant and call it a production line.
I came across this quote in a website for automotive paint and that's exactly my problem.
"Orange peel is a wavy light and dark pattern hiding somewhere in the paint."
At least now I know I'm not seeing things. |
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| dbptx1 |
| My SS has 200 miles - picked it up a month ago. I noticed the same issue with the paint. Looking at it closely......... I agree about the kids with cans of spray paint. This is the most pitiful paint-job I have ever seen on a new vehicle - especially for 42k! |
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| TheWorm |
Halfway down this thread is a pic of orange peel.
Is this what you're talking about, or are you talking about "random splotches" in the finish where the color appears different or lighter/darker in patches rather than the peel of an orange the pic in my link demonstrates? The splotching is something the Oddy folks (with SS color) have been complaining about for quite some time. www.odyclub.com has the info; just search for "paint".
FWIW, I believe you're the first MDX owners to mention this (if it's splotches, that is). Just trying to clarify... |
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| dbptx1 |
| definately splotches, here.... |
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| dbptx1 |
| definately splotches, here.... |
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| ghotie |
This has all been discussed in great depth sometime ago, so a search of the site should uncover lot's of info for those unfamiliar with this particular 'feature' of the MDX.
FWIW, a friend of mine was showing me his new LS and, sure enough, lots of orange peel. His is black, so it's a bit harder to see, but the light was just right for it to stand out.
I agree, it's an amateurish paint job, but I don't think there's any real impact outside of appearance. We MDXer's tend to stare at our babies with a pretty critical eye. But my guess is that most people probably don't even notice it. They just wish that they had an MDX too. :D |
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| MannyE |
Just to add my 2 pennies to this:
Orange Peel is to me very annoying. I will be taking my car to a good body shop for a wet sand as soon as I can.
If you are, like me, very annoyed with the situation of inferior paint, and have never seen a car after a true craftsman has had his way with it, you will think you've died and gone to Heaven!
I would not advise wet sanding at home unless you know for sure the clear coat is thick and rich enough to stop a roller coaster, which OEM usually isn't. Better to leave it to a pro.
(Those of you too young to get the thick and rich enough reference...go ask your dad about Foamy) |
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| DaleB |
quote:
Originally posted by MannyE
Just to add my 2 pennies to this:
Orange Peel is to me very annoying. I will be taking my car to a good body shop for a wet sand as soon as I can.
If you are, like me, very annoyed with the situation of inferior paint, and have never seen a car after a true craftsman has had his way with it, you will think you've died and gone to Heaven!
I would not advise wet sanding at home unless you know for sure the clear coat is thick and rich enough to stop a roller coaster, which OEM usually isn't. Better to leave it to a pro.
Maybe you could do before and after photos? And the cost? |
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| R Stevens |
| It is interesting that others have also noticed the "splotches". It is very pronounced on my SS. Almost as if two spray cans were being used simultaneously - one in silver and one a light brown. My 2001 silver metallic Honda Civic EX has a far superior paint job. No orange peel, a very uniform color and a gloss that is better than my MDX. The MDX has 3 coats of Zaino and the Civic one coat 6months ago of regular old wax. |
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| MannyE |
Dale,
I certainly will do before and afters...it usually costs around 500 bucks for a wet sand...depending on the car...nooks and crannys etc. The MDX is quite large so I'm not sure just what the total would be on it. I'll reply with the estimate once I take delivery and take a ride to Harbor Auto Restorations IMO the best place near me.
They did my 69 RR convertible and I was amazed at the quality of their work (and I'm NEVER happy).
http://www.harbor-auto.com/harbor.html |
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| DaleB |
I know some good custom body shops in my area.
I have wet sanded a vehicle before. Just the rear quarter on an older Taurus station wagon that was repaired and looked like it was painted with a brush.
Believe me, $500 for somebody who really knows what they are doing is worth it. |
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