| joneSi |
Ok, I should clarify, generally leased American cars are subsidized by the manufacturer, otherwise it too would not be a great 'deal'.
My only real point is that if a car is a depreciating asset, isn't it better to have one that depreciates less over time? There are certain domestic vehicles that do resell well. Others do not. -Most- (not all) of the Japanese vehicles are good in the resale department.
That shouldn't be the ONLY reason to buy a car though.
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| pianoman41 |
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Originally posted by BigHersh
Guys, do you really think you're seeing the "quality" product when you rent from Hertz?:rolleyes: It's fleet sales for crying out loud. You can't (Or shouldn't) expect quality there...
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| teton |
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Originally posted by BigHersh
Guys, do you really think you're seeing the "quality" product when you rent from Hertz?
I definitely don't think we are seeing cream of the crop when renting from Hertz, however the cars are for sure representative of what they are making these days.
True story about 1 month back I was driving a minivan from Enterprise (Ford Freestar). After driving it for 2 days the check engine light came on and the van would vibrate violently everytime I am in idle. I don't know what's the cause or what the problem is, I don't really care, but the van has around 10,000 miles only. I would not recommend people buying that vehicle for sure. We eventually returned the van to Enteriprise with the problem. The lady at the counter said it's probably because the gas cap wasn't on tight enough. Now tell me how can a loose gas cap cause the engine to vibrate? I know she probably knows next to nothing about automobiles but is the Ford Freestar a reliable vehicle? I would have to say no.
Now I am not a mechanic by any means, but my personal guess is the air sensor is probably broken, or something that regulates engine idle is no longer working properly. The van still drives fine at speed but shakes like Shakira's butt everytime you stop at a light.
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| JL_SS |
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Originally posted by teton
I definitely don't think we are seeing cream of the crop when renting from Hertz, however the cars are for sure representative of what they are making these days.
True story about 1 month back I was driving a minivan from Enterprise (Ford Freestar). After driving it for 2 days the check engine light came on and the van would vibrate violently everytime I am in idle. I don't know what's the cause or what the problem is, I don't really care, but the van has around 10,000 miles only. I would not recommend people buying that vehicle for sure. We eventually returned the van to Enteriprise with the problem. The lady at the counter said it's probably because the gas cap wasn't on tight enough. Now tell me how can a loose gas cap cause the engine to vibrate? I know she probably knows next to nothing about automobiles but is the Ford Freestar a reliable vehicle? I would have to say no.
Now I am not a mechanic by any means, but my personal guess is the air sensor is probably broken, or something that regulates engine idle is no longer working properly. The van still drives fine at speed but shakes like Shakira's butt everytime you stop at a light.
-Teton
But it hasn't been driven like a normal vehicle - who knows what the guy before you did to it. As I noted before, our Acura dealer offers loaners that would make you question ever buying an Acura because some people severely abuse rentals and loaners. I recently got into a minor accident and my truck was in the body shop for 3 days. Enterprise was supposed to supply me with a full size truck rental vehicle. They couldn't because whatever the guy who was renting it before me did with it SEIZED the engine. Most rental companies seem to skimp on any repairs because they only keep the vehicles for a year and less than 15K miles. |
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| BigHersh |
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Originally posted by teton
The lady at the counter said it's probably because the gas cap wasn't on tight enough. Now tell me how can a loose gas cap cause the engine to vibrate? I know she probably knows next to nothing about automobiles but is the Ford Freestar a reliable vehicle? I would have to say no.
The van still drives fine at speed but shakes like Shakira's butt everytime you stop at a light.
-Teton
Taking the gas cap off a car that's running (or a loose gas cap) can put air into the system. Yes, it can make the car run roughly. If you think Ford has it bad, take the cap off a BMW (Seen it done on a 325 & 745). It lets the owner know something is wrong... Especially the oil stick or cap on a Bimmer..
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Originally posted by teton
The van still drives fine at speed but shakes like Shakira's butt everytime you stop at a light. -Teton
You say that like it's a bad thing?!
Shakira-Shakira... Oh Baby when you dance like that...
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| BLEXV6 |
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Originally posted by JL_SS
But as Hyundai continues to build it's quality reputation, they will increase their resale value. And Hyundai is doing it. In the early years Toyota and Honda (and Japanese cars in general) had horrible quality reputations - look where they are now.
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| JL_SS |
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Originally posted by BLEXV6
I think the original Japanese cars here were mechanically reliable, but rusted badly, like my 1st car, a 1982 Honda Accord.
Honda started making cars in 1960 sold mainly in the Japanese market. They really didn't break into the US market until 1972 with the Civic. I helped a friend push one of these around quite often while he tried fix it and find parts. They weren't all that reliable. By 1982 mechanically reliability was much better except for the rust issues. I think we may have had this discussion before....... |
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| BLEXV6 |
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Originally posted by JL_SS
Honda started making cars in 1960 sold mainly in the Japanese market. They really didn't break into the US market until 1972 with the Civic. I helped a friend push one of these around quite often while he tried fix it and find parts. They weren't all that reliable. By 1982 mechanically reliability was much better except for the rust issues. I think we may have had this discussion before.......
Probably, but because I didn't own a car until 1984, I did not know what the pre 82 cars were like, except my dads crappy Fords. |
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| BostonX |
I just recently returned from our annual vacation in Santa Fe (we were "leasing" our digs; buying in that area is too expensive!). Our first rental was a brand new Jeep Liberty. Biggest piece of crap I've ever driven! I won't even go into details. After a few days a bunch of warning lights started coming on ("service required", "low tire pressure", etc.), so we swapped it for the only comparable vehicle they had available; a 2006 Chevy Equinox. Seemed like a decent enough ride (although very ugly and with horrible ergonomics) but the car that they assured me was AWD turned out to be a two wheel drive model (why the hell build an SUV with two wheel drive?). Back to Hertz and I'm given a '06 Hyundai Tucson with 14,000 miles on it. Guess what? Best vehicle of the entire trip! Great power, handling and gas mileage.
I've experienced similar scenarios for the dozen or so years I've been renting from Hertz. Last year I had a Nissan Murano, a car whose styling I've criticized widely on this board, but it turned out to be one of the best rental experiences I've ever had (except for the time I took it on a really nasty fire road in the back country). The year before that was a Mercury Mountaineer that performed worse than go-karts I have driven...
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| teton |
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Originally posted by BigHersh
Taking the gas cap off a car that's running (or a loose gas cap) can put air into the system. Yes, it can make the car run roughly. If you think Ford has it bad, take the cap off a BMW (Seen it done on a 325 & 745). It lets the owner know something is wrong... Especially the oil stick or cap on a Bimmer..
This is interesting!!! Very very interesting!!!
I say this because I never turn off the engine when I go to the gas station and fill up. I do this because I don't want the AC to stop for a second. It gets very warm here in the summer and I'd hell if I have to stop the AC for a minute and then turn it back on after refueling. I have to say though, I have never had any problems doing this, not in my MDX nor my Lexus.
Also I sometimes check the oil dip stick with the engine running, I know the oil level would be different but I am usually just checking the color. I sometimes will also open the oil cap (the one where you fill motor oil into the crankcase). When the engine is running you can feel a small draft coming out of the crankcase hole.
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| C&J01MDX |
Just catching up on some old posts.....
The wood trim parts that are in the 07 MDX are exactly the same style of fake wood parts that are in any other Honda or prev gen MDX.
They are are very shiny (due to the protective coating on the top layer) and will scratch.
The sliding cup holder lid, radio surround and other trim parts do come in a 3d metallic covering or painted on low grade versions. (I don't think honda has used this in any production vehicle so far) |
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| C&J01MDX |
The split console is very solid when closed. When opened each half seem quite flexibly (not very rigid) and when the release buttons are opened, the armrest opens very quickly.
And as mentioned by others, the split concept is a copy of BMW
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The center armrest/console cover is split. Hopefully it's strong and stable so there's no wobble when you have your arm on it.
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by C&J01MDX
The split console is very solid when closed. When opened each half seem quite flexibly (not very rigid) and when the release buttons are opened, the armrest opens very quickly.
Cool, thanks!
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| QRTLOW |
This definitely looks like a "come back to" thread seeing posts are a week apart. So here's my tangent.....
My feedback on the lease idea: I did a computer contracting job for Bank One back in 1999 and spoke with the senior VP of BOCC leasing while working in the executive office in Phoenix. I asked him "What about leasing"? He said if you don't write if off on your own company or, your company does't pay for it,.. your an Idiot, Don't lease!". Bank One lost 2 Billion on residuals that year because manufacturers had 1% financing. 3 year old returns were worth dick. The bank lost there ass. It resulted in my contract job being cut because they lost so much.
His scenario for a common buyer was: $2000 down at purchase, you pay the full sales tax on the vehicle you'll never own, $1200, you make monthlies like you owned it, $300 x12x3, then when you turn it in you pay $2000+ for mileage, tire degradation, dents etc..
You walk away $20k in the hole and hail a cab outside the dealership to get home. If you owned the car, the depreciation was only $14K. Or your an idiot and roll your debt into a new car and drive away.
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| JL_SS |
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Originally posted by QRTLOW
This definitely looks like a "come back to" thread seeing posts are a week apart. So here's my tangent.....
My feedback on the lease idea: I did a computer contracting job for Bank One back in 1999 and spoke with the senior VP of BOCC leasing while working in the executive office in Phoenix. I asked him "What about leasing"? He said if you don't write if off on your own company or, your company does't pay for it,.. your an Idiot, Don't lease!". Bank One lost 2 Billion on residuals that year because manufacturers had 1% financing. 3 year old returns were worth dick. The bank lost there ass. It resulted in my contract job being cut because they lost so much.
His scenario for a common buyer was: $2000 down at purchase, you pay the full sales tax on the vehicle you'll never own, $1200, you make monthlies like you owned it, $300 x12x3, then when you turn it in you pay $2000+ for mileage, tire degradation, dents etc..
You walk away $20k in the hole and hail a cab outside the dealership to get home. If you owned the car, the depreciation was only $14K. Or your an idiot and roll your debt into a new car and drive away.
Who wins there?
So the bank lost all the depreciation not the customer - sounds like an argument for leasing not against. The payment is significantly less than buying for the same vehicle, especially if you lease a vehicle that retains a high residual value. If you are going to drive more than the allotted mileage, then you need to negotiate more mileage into the lease or not lease at all. If you take normal care of your vehicle, you will not get hit with degradation costs. Leasing is OK for some but like anything, you need to do it smartly. I can't lease cause I put way to many miles on my vehicles and it soesn't make sense for me. |
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| QRTLOW |
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Originally posted by JL_SS
So the bank lost all the depreciation not the customer - sounds like an argument for leasing not against. The payment is significantly less than buying for the same vehicle, especially if you lease a vehicle that retains a high residual value. If you are going to drive more than the allotted mileage, then you need to negotiate more mileage into the lease or not lease at all. If you take normal care of your vehicle, you will not get hit with degradation costs. Leasing is OK for some but like anything, you need to do it smartly. I can't lease cause I put way to many miles on my vehicles and it soesn't make sense for me.
That was what leasing was like. The banks overvalued residuals, and the customer won. The customer showed up to turn it back in, and The Black Book was his friend. From that point on Banks have given themselves a huge cushion on residuals not in the customers favor. I don't know what you mean about significantly less payments verses buying. On most vehicles the difference is less than $100 depending on the financing you receive. The average your allotted on mileage is like 11K. The national average driver is 13K on a vehicle. If you negotiate more it has to come from somewhere so they'll bump the price; odometer clicks are there biggest concern.
What I find interesting is their marketing strategy and how it's changed over the past years. Go open the Sunday paper and compare the ratio of advertising numbers depicting monthly lease prices versus vehicle sticker. Consumers are being baited with low monthly numbers instead of a large scary MSRP number. Read the fine print if its not too small: 2006 BMW X5 3.0 on a 22mo closed end @$446 mo. You pay MSRP of $48,000 tax of $2800. Add $2948 down, a $500 refundable security deposit, $398 doc fee, title fee, license fee, and acquisition fee due at signing, and are limited to 10,000mi. This vehicle maintains great resale remember.
The vehicle comes back on the lot in 22 months (2 months before the 2009's show up). Has 20 clicks on the odometer. Your bank account is $16,000 smaller, (your real out of pocket for the total ownership was $770mo). They put it back on the lot for $40K.
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| BigHersh |
I lease when it's good, and I buy when it's good. So far, I have never (except for my wife's truck, the 2001 F-150) owned a vehicle 3 years, so it doesn't matter if I lease or buy.
If I catch them at a good time (0.9% APR, 0.0% APR, and I have a lot of NE, I'll buy and roll the NE. With Ford, I have X-Plan, so I get a discounted price on the vehicle (usually $500 above invoice) plus any rebates and incentives they may offer. The last one I bought (2003 Expy) was $44,000.000 With my X-plan, I got the truck for $30,000.00 I was $3,000 upside down, I put $1,500 down, and rolled the other $1,500 and got 0.0% APR. That made my payment less than my 2000 Expedition (Had I know I was eligible for X-Plan pricing on the 2000, I'd have really made a killing on it).
I caught this Acura at a good time; whatever was going on, Honda was paying the taxes, so I didn't have to pay the taxes on the MDX, so that saved damn-near $3,000.00 of financing. I was $3K upside down when I got the MDX, but with special lease rates, the mark down, and the paid taxes, I got a good deal (Even though I sometimes regret getting this car).
I'm one of those people who as long as I'm adequately employed, and of sound mind & body, I'll probably always have a car note. I've been making payments since June 1991, and haven't paid one off yet. But, I love cars, so- they'll always be in my budget (God-willing). For a person like me, monthly payment is more important- because chances are, I'm not gonna keep it anyway...
I already know the MDX's days are numbered... It's gone in 29 months, if it makes it past this year... (End of year deals coming up)
Crest Cadillac had a commercial on, talkingabout $15K off on '06 Escalades. I went up there, not a single '06 Escalade on the lot... |
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| QRTLOW |
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Originally posted by BigHersh
I lease when it's good,....
What a coincidence, I just noticed your location. I live in Phoenix, and I bought my Black '04 from a guy last year who just moved from Texas. My owners manual has business cards from Goodson in Irving. It had 17K on the odometer but he just took a job that he said was going to have him drive all over the Valley, and then have to drive it back to Texas to eventually return it, adding more clicks so he was in bad shape. I asked him what his payments were and he said, "$499mo". I said "Whoa", he replied, "Is that too much"? His payoff on the note at that time was $32K. He was worried he was going to have to pay tax, but I told him since it was sold in AZ we have no tax for private sales. Probably why we have Barret-Jackson out here. I helped him out big, and he helped me out big. |
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| BostonX |
I saw my first one today. It was a dark gray one and parked outside the Acura of Bellevue dealership where I bought my '05.
I thought it looked pretty nice. The style, to me, is very similar to what Nissan made popular with the Murano (FX) and what is being adopted by many others, from Toyota's new RAV4 to even the new Mercedes GL-class.
This swoopy, tapered roof line and bulbous nose thing might end up steering potential luxury buyers towards a more traditional look (like the Range Rover/Land Rover LR3 or Toyota Land Cruiser) but I think it will mellow very well with age.... until the next styling trend appears.
That said, I wouldn't kick this new 'X out of bed on looks alone (to paraphrase something our own Hersh might have said)! |
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| QRTLOW |
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Originally posted by BostonX
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This swoopy, tapered roof line and bulbous nose thing might end up steering potential luxury buyers towards a more traditional look (like the Range Rover/Land Rover LR3 or Toyota Land Cruiser)"
So some like the un-symetric look? Why did Land Rover go with the shifted rear window? I guess there wasn't a first aid kit or spare tire in the way. Was it because Nissan Xterra had great sales? What's with the high roof line on Rovers? Is that for their drivers heads? What was their catch-phrase again? |
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| QRTLOW |
| High roofline requirements. |
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| Norb |
| The LR3 is the successor to the Discovery so it takes its styling cues from it. The rear window is the same as in the Discovery because the Discovery had a spare tire on the rear doors, but it as offset to one side, so they had the window lower on the other side. The higher roof as to accomodate the rear seats, the wheelbase was so short on the Discovery (for trail worthiness) that the rear seats were on top of the solid rear axel, so they sat higher, thus they had to raise the roof to accomodate. I thought it was honest design. |
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| BostonX |
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Originally posted by Norb
The LR3 is the successor to the Discovery so it takes its styling cues from it. The rear window is the same as in the Discovery because the Discovery had a spare tire on the rear doors, but it as offset to one side, so they had the window lower on the other side. The higher roof as to accomodate the rear seats, the wheelbase was so short on the Discovery (for trail worthiness) that the rear seats were on top of the solid rear axel, so they sat higher, thus they had to raise the roof to accomodate. I thought it was honest design.
I like it. The styling looks tough and purposeful. I drive one frequently (belongs to my wife's family) and it's a nice (quiet!) ride. I don't feel safe taking it on long trips though... there always seems to be some warning light or something coming on! |
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| QRTLOW |
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Originally posted by BostonX
I like it. The styling looks tough and purposeful. I drive one frequently (belongs to my wife's family) and it's a nice (quiet!) ride. I don't feel safe taking it on long trips though... there always seems to be some warning light or something coming on!
As long as the purpose is'nt sacrificed by safety. Rolling your LS3 is highly likely. There's a Gov department rating roll probability (NHTSA). The 2003 Discovery ranked 2 stars. There was no 2005 or 2006 info in their database. The 2003 MDX was a 5 star. |
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| Norb |
| The LR3 is a totally complete new design with no parts reused from the Discovery. Its quite lower and wider than the Discovery and has the Volvo developed anti Roll over control (both Volvo and Land Rover are owned by Ford). I'm pretty sure its going to do better than than the Discovery in crash tests. Feature for feature the LR3 has the same safety stuff as the MDX. |
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| QRTLOW |
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Originally posted by Norb
The LR3 is a totally complete new design with no parts reused from the Discovery. Its quite lower and wider than the Discovery and has the Volvo developed anti Roll over control (both Volvo and Land Rover are owned by Ford). I'm pretty sure its going to do better than than the Discovery in crash tests. Feature for feature the LR3 has the same safety stuff as the MDX.
I'de like to be optimistic and agree. However, I heard the "Crash Test" and other vehicle ratings are done only if the manufacturer willingly submits donor vehicles and consents and waives to whatever findings they come up with. Am I correct here in speculating Land Rover has'nt donated and consented? If so, are they not willing to subject the LR3 to 3rd party evaluation? |
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| eurohazard |
| Actually I think at least some of the testers buy off-the-showroom cars to ensure a fair test. For example, the manufacturer won't beef up the frame or the like. |
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| Norb |
| They also tend to test higher volume cars. Land Rover is far from high volume. |
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| QRTLOW |
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Originally posted by Norb
They also tend to test higher volume cars. Land Rover is far from high volume.
Your right. Probably will never see Dateline showing the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety videos of a Bentley Continental GT going head on to a block wall.:2: |
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| BostonX |
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Originally posted by BostonX
I saw my first one today. It was a dark gray one and parked outside the Acura of Bellevue dealership where I bought my '05.
I thought it looked pretty nice....
I was wrong! I went back to the dealership today to get a closer look and was told that the car I saw must have been an RDX, they aren't getting any new MDXs in until mid-October!
But as a consolation my salesguy told me that the RDX and MDX look very similar (only the MDX is "much bigger")... |
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| pdempsey |
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| solaraguy |
I know I've seen MSRP's mentioned on here for Canada but I wanted to let those who haven't gone down to a dealer in the USA yet that a 07 MDX with all packages (Tech, Sport & Entertainment) has a MSRP of $48,435. My dealer says they will have their first shipment of appx 20 on October 18th.
I didn't ask what the other package options were b/c if I get it, I'm going for broke... No pun intended ;)
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Originally posted by solaraguy
I know I've seen MSRP's mentioned on here for Canada but I wanted to let those who haven't gone down to a dealer in the USA yet that a 07 MDX with all packages (Tech, Sport & Entertainment) has a MSRP of $48,435. My dealer says they will have their first shipment of appx 20 on October 18th.
I didn't ask what the other package options were b/c if I get it, I'm going for broke... No pun intended ;)
Hope this helps!
Sure... but the warranty is void in Canada. |
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| joneSi |
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Originally posted by dvilla
Maybe I'll just wait for the DIESEL 2009 MDX:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos...sels-usat_x.htm
Anything is possible, but there is nothing that would indicate that it would be in the MDX.
I eagerly await Honda to prove me wrong.
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| JL_SS |
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Originally posted by joneSi
Anything is possible, but there is nothing that would indicate that it would be in the MDX.
I eagerly await Honda to prove me wrong.
joneSi
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| gdavis |
| Drove the 07 MDX in Phoenix yesterday at Acura's factory ride and drive event. In addition to the MDX Acura brought an X5, Caynne, and RX 350. The Cayenne was the 6cyl version and although it handled well it was slow from the start. The new MDX clearly out performed all the others. There is going to be a Tech Pkg, Entertainment pkg, as well as a Sport Pkg that offers an active sport suspension, perforated seats (why they all don't have them is a mystery), auto leveling Xenons, and a few other non essentials. All the Sport Pkg vehicles will come with the Tech pkg To get the price up to the 50k range you will be buying the sport pkg with tech and entertainment. You can get yourself a nicely equipped 07 MDX with Navigation for $44,165.00 |
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| joneSi |
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Link
Now -THAT- article proves that at least its in the plans. Nice! Thanks for the great link!
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| QRTLOW |
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Originally posted by gdavis
Drove the 07 MDX in Phoenix yesterday at Acura's factory ride and drive event. In addition to the MDX Acura brought an X5, Caynne, and RX 350. ...
Wow! I never heard it was coming. What dealership sponsored that? North Scottsdale?, Bell? Tempe? Are they doing that again?
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| joneSi |
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Originally posted by QRTLOW
Wow! I never heard it was coming. What dealership sponsored that? North Scottsdale?, Bell? Tempe? Are they doing that again?
Give some more details...
I believe it was a ride and drive event for sales staff of dealerships only. Common thing done in the car world.
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| gdavis |
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| OP MDX |
I think, or at least for me the only competitor that interests me in the competition group is the X5. The 2007 X5 will be hard to beat, I'm certain they used the 2006 X5 for comparison since the 07 X5 isn't out yet.
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Originally posted by gdavis
Drove the 07 MDX in Phoenix yesterday at Acura's factory ride and drive event. In addition to the MDX Acura brought an X5, Caynne, and RX 350. The Cayenne was the 6cyl version and although it handled well it was slow from the start. The new MDX clearly out performed all the others. There is going to be a Tech Pkg, Entertainment pkg, as well as a Sport Pkg that offers an active sport suspension, perforated seats (why they all don't have them is a mystery), auto leveling Xenons, and a few other non essentials. All the Sport Pkg vehicles will come with the Tech pkg To get the price up to the 50k range you will be buying the sport pkg with tech and entertainment. You can get yourself a nicely equipped 07 MDX with Navigation for $44,165.00
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Originally posted by gdavis
Correct, It was a factory event to acquaint Acura Sales and Service personnel to the vehicle.
Okay, and anonymity respected, I wish you would call me the next time NSA has such an event. I have my extended warranty there!
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| gdavis |
| Sorry I let you down. Come see me on the 17th and we will go beat up the new one together. |
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| mauigrl721 |
At my Ride and Drive event we drove the Cayenne (slow as molasses but handles very well), the RX350 (quick but handles absolutely horribly), the MDX with and without Sport Pkg. (highly rec. getting the Sport pkg.) and the ML350 (nothing impressive at all). We didn't get an X5 from BMW because it isn't out yet. The new MDX handles equally as well, if not better, than the RL. Now that could be because I pushed this SUV much, much harder than I did the RL 2 years ago, but I was AMAZED at the cornering, accelerating and stopping ability of this car.
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| dvilla |
This afternoon I went to Karen Radley Acura for an oil change and I guess my time there was well spent:
- oil change: I brought with me a 5 qt. mobil1 synthetic ($26 at wall mart) and the dealership charged me $28 for the labor. a total of $54, not bad!
- bluetooth: for quite sometime now I've been UNsuccessful in setting up my bluetooth phone. the dealership found out that there's a problem with the bluetooth botton of my X. will bring it back next week.
- 2007 mdx brochure: got one and ask them about the navigation. the reason the touch screen feature was discontinued is that the screen is now located/pushed forward a bit farther from the driver. |
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Originally posted by dvilla
This afternoon I went to Karen Radley Acura for an oil change and I guess my time there was well spent:
- oil change: I brought with me a 5 qt. mobil1 synthetic ($26 at wall mart) and the dealership charged me $28 for the labor. a total of $54, not bad!
- bluetooth: for quite sometime now I've been UNsuccessful in setting up my bluetooth phone. the dealership found out that there's a problem with the bluetooth botton of my X. will bring it back next week.
- 2007 mdx brochure: got one and ask them about the navigation. the reason the touch screen feature was discontinued is that the screen is now located/pushed forward a bit farther from the driver.
Great idea with the BYOO to the dealer. I used to do that at the Quaky Lubes. The salesman in the bay would sell you up to synthetics, but you never knew what Goober was pumping into it because you were in the waiting room reading a 6 month old Car and Driver. I'll try that next time.
Good news on the touchscreen, I'll finally get some sleep at night not wondering why they wanted to mess with my sense comfort and habit of the touch screen. He could probably add to his schpeal the reduction of scratches and finger smears on the contact area. |
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| dvilla |
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Good news on the touchscreen, I'll finally get some sleep at night not wondering why they wanted to mess with my sense comfort and habit of the touch screen. He could probably add to his schpeal the reduction of scratches and finger smears on the contact area.
let's wait and see how the navi works. new owners of the 2007X will eventually post something about it.
the 2007X will in the dealerships next week. i might test drive it when i go back there for my bluetooth button issue.
also, while i was there i noticed 3 other MDXes coming out of the service bay and being driven off by senior citizens (silver by old couple, a red by an old lady and a beige by an old man). is the X now the preferred vehicle of the AARP members (above 50 yrs old)? |
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| kunB |
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let's wait and see how the navi works. new owners of the 2007X will eventually post something about it.
the 2007X will in the dealerships next week. i might test drive it when i go back there for my bluetooth button issue.
also, while i was there i noticed 3 other MDXes coming out of the service bay and being driven off by senior citizens (silver by old couple, a red by an old lady and a beige by an old man). is the X now the preferred vehicle of the AARP members (above 50 yrs old)?
I think that depends on when you when in for service. If you were there on a weekday from 10-2, then you will only see senior citizens and sit at home Moms. Because all other people are working. :2: |
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| dj-mdx2 |
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I think that depends on when you when in for service. If you were there on a weekday from 10-2, then you will only see senior citizens and sit at home Moms. Because all other people are working. :2:
Good point. I have noticed that while sipping stale coffee at the service department lounge there are either seniors or rarely, MILFs. But I've also noticed that in general, in my neck of the woods, the MDX drivers tend to be over 40. In my old neighborhood, there were 2 sextegenerians driving X's in my own subdivision. The young guys tend to drive pickups or Mustangs. |
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| And when the old couple went to the cashier and saw one of the sales rep giving me the 2007 MDX brochure they also asked for one. must be rich retirees. I hope that when I retire I can still afford an X. |
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| Dick at Incline |
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Good point. I have noticed that while sipping stale coffee at the service department lounge there are either seniors or rarely, MILFs. But I've also noticed that in general, in my neck of the woods, the MDX drivers tend to be over 40. In my old neighborhood, there were 2 sextegenerians driving X's in my own subdivision. The young guys tend to drive pickups or Mustangs.
Sextenerians huh? I'm 71 (but I was in my 60s when I bought my 2003 MDX). I use mine to go off-road camping and also to pull a trailer with my ATVs and Dirt Bike (KDX 220). Also this is a great car to get through the snow to the Ski Areas. |
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