| gcrewzr |
50 grand for 07 MDX?? I think that's pretty tough..
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| QRTLOW |
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Originally posted by gcrewzr
50 grand for 07 MDX?? I think that's pretty tough..
What do you think guys??
Uhhhh... I'll be right back,..I have to go find an ATM. |
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| G. COLTON |
High prices would be the end of theMDX unless Acura got smart in time.
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| wmquan |
Nice post. If this is accurate, it looks like Autoweek screwed up the embargo date and released the info too early.
3.7 liter engine is true:
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That starts with the new 3.7-liter V6 powering the new MDX. Horsepower is up 40 to 300 and the engine produces 275 lb ft of torque, up 25 lb ft. It is mated to a 5-speed sequential gearbox.
Three packages:
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Three option packages will be available when the car is on sale in a month or so and can be mixed and matched. The Sport package has active dampers, high-zoot leather and alloy wheels. The Technology package includes DVD Nav system with real-time traffic updates, rearview camera, and automatic climate control. The Entertainment package has a rear-entertainment system, power tailgate and heated second row seats.
They didn't give a firm indication of price though, just a general estimate range.
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Prices aren't set in stone yet, but Acura is figuring on $41,000-$48,000.
If the range is accurate, it means about a $3,875 to $3,800 price increase. The current model's range is $37,125 to $44,200.
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| eurohazard |
It seems price competitive to me. Of course they will NOT be selling at sticker, as no mid/full size SUV is right now.
Observations:
-I've said it before, and I'll say it again......the rear blocky upper 1/4 panel is a TERRIBLE design. One of the great things about the 2001-2006 MDX' is the outstanding all-around visibility. This new design will make it seem claustrophobic (think PT Cruiser) inside.
-The outside side view mirrors seem awfully small.
-Overall the interior is nice, but why does the steering wheel look like an alien vagina? |
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| SilveradoMDX |
Not bad, I like the interior. Looks real wood trim and leather...
Looks like the headlight is now lowered to support HID.
Exterior body doesn't look appealing. |
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| ROTORRAY |
...If they've strengthened the tranny for those 300 ponies. I think it would be prudent to stand back and take a deep breath. With its history of tranny problems in the early years of the current style, and approaching $50K, some things have to settle down. I know some can justify the price increase by saying it's "only...", but they aren't selling at $40K now so a 25% increase is substantial. It will also be added to by the stealers. It will be interesting to see how things shake out, the "newness" wears off and reality sinks in.
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| teton |
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...0111#post330111
I guessed $38 - $45. Article says $41 - $48. My range is low by $3K in both upper and lower bounds. Not a bad guess.
I like the looks, both interior and exterior. I was hoping for a bit more power. I hope the mileage is good, should be a tiny bit better than current MDX. Remember the Audi Q7 for $60K you can get 350 hp V8, so I think the value is still there with the new X. Hopefully they lower the price a tiny bit and stroke the engine somehow to get around 310 - 330 hp or so... that'd be great.
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| teton |
I like how they covered up the navigation screen. The current one is very hard to read in the sunlight. I hope this new nav. screen will tilt as well.
-Teton |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by ROTORRAY
... but they aren't selling at $40K now so a 25% increase is substantial. ...
I'd assume that "the market' would adjust in time. After the initial hype dies down, we'd see discounts. I have to assume that there is still a big spread between MSRP and invoice. So a reasonable wait while the first-year bugs are ironed out will yield a more reasonable "increase" compared to current street pricing. There's always a premium to be the first one on the block.
Does anyone really think that the RDX won't be discounted in a bit? Same may hold true of this new MDX.
Manufacturers rarely base their new model's MSRP on the street price of the outgoing model. So it's pretty common. |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by SilveradoMDX
Not bad, I like the interior. Looks real wood trim and leather...
Wood looks fake to me. Looks like a long slab of plastic, like they have in some colors of the TSX. |
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| one4gatr |
quote:
Originally posted by wmquan
Wood looks fake to me. Looks like a long slab of plastic, like they have in some colors of the TSX.
Agreed wood does not glare as bad as the pic. No real wood in my opinion. |
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| one4gatr |
quote:
Originally posted by teton
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...0111#post330111
I guessed $38 - $45. Article says $41 - $48. My range is low by $3K in both upper and lower bounds. Not a bad guess.
I like the looks, both interior and exterior. I was hoping for a bit more power. I hope the mileage is good, should be a tiny bit better than current MDX. Remember the Audi Q7 for $60K you can get 350 hp V8, so I think the value is still there with the new X. Hopefully they lower the price a tiny bit and stroke the engine somehow to get around 310 - 330 hp or so... that'd be great.
-Teton
UGGGGHHHH... Is that a Buick Rendevous front end.
Not even funny on the outside if its real. Looks like a buick and a rx made a baby.... |
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| one4gatr |
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Looks like the headlight is now lowered to support HID.
God I hope so.. time will tell. You cant take Acura seriously being "luxury" without at minimum HID's. |
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| teton |
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Originally posted by one4gatr
God I hope so.. time will tell. You cant take Acura seriously being "luxury" without at minimum HID's.
You sure the headlight height has anything to do with HID?
The Infinity QX56 has HID, and that headlight is where the MDX mirrors are.
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| one4gatr |
quote:
Originally posted by teton
You sure the headlight height has anything to do with HID?
The Infinity QX56 has HID, and that headlight is where the MDX mirrors are.
-Teton
Not really.... I just quoted that from another poster... all I am saying is that Acura BETTER have at minimum HID's if they want to be considered a "luxury" player. |
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| BigHersh |
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Originally posted by SilveradoMDX
Not bad, I like the interior. Looks real wood trim and leather...
Looks like the headlight is now lowered to support HID.
Exterior body doesn't look appealing.
Initial impulse.
Overall: I love the interior. Sterring wheel is a little funky, but I could get used to it.
The Nev screen, excellent. With that covering, it should eliminate washout, as is a problem was the current screen.
You all laugh at the Tribeca, but the interior looks very "Tribeca-ish" to me.
Looks like the same big-ass dead-pedal remained. :rolleyes:
It doesn't look much larger...:rolleyes:
Split center console = BMW. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Aside from that, I cannot complain at all... I like the looks, it's a big departure from the original, but a nice departure- the only thing I don't like is the rear side window. That's kinda, not cool.
I like the grill, mare than I thought I would, I love the headlights, and the fogs being further apart. They could've put larger mirrors on it, since they took away from the interior visibility, but I like the integrated turn signal. (I hope that's what that is...) |
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| Happyowner |
First and foremost, i am going to be trading in the 06 now!!!!!!!! Its actually not bad!!!!!!!!!! I like it, and so does my daughter, we will see how her first semiester goes, and then we will see... (I am always in need of another car!!!!!!!!!!!) But i am not fond of the 41-48 grand price tag.... That better come with alot of standard goodies, because i figure if we get the 48,000 one and if it needs simple packages, its going to be 54,000 and for that amount, ill be walking over to the Lexus or Mercedes Dealer, and getting myself a true luxury SUV! The outside in that Cherry color is amazing reminds me alot of the 97-01 Nissan Pathfinder Brownish red (i forget the name.)Personally i really like the New MDX very modern and edge, (the only thing that i dont like is the rear window, they should have just kept it going, i bet ya it has one of hell of a ***** of a blind spot!) Now on to honda WTH are they trying to go and do, moving the CR-V up to 28,000 is going to be putting alot of people into the CX-7 and RAV4 showrooms, they offer a hell of alot more for alot less... CX-7 starts at 25.467 with (AWD and it has 244hp.) RAV4 is 27,658 with V6 and AWD, and now the CR-V with 166 HP and AWD 28,000 WTH!!!!!!!!!!DO u see a problem here or is it just me? I would take my 28.000 by the mazda and save the rest for a good trip!
On to another subject i thought i would bring up being here.... The New Hyundai Vercruz Looks to be a real MDX compeditor, and with a 3.8 V6 with 280-300 HP it looks like it gunning for the MDX/RX350/XC90/Enclave.... I think the outside is alittle to round for my tastes, but its defineately going to be a hell of a compeditor.... And then u have to conclude, that dear old Hyundai is going to offer a Kia version, so that the Hyundai can be bit more upper class... So my question is, is Hyundai becoming what acura and lexus once stood for, luxury at moderate prices?
Also Hyundai is developing their new Sport Sedan for the american market, 3.8 V6 or the 4.6 V8 RWD, (AWD is said to be an option, Leather, very 530i and 530xi i have heard.) But the greatest one is the price 33,000-37,000!!!!!!!!!!!! That is going to be direct acura/lexus/infiniti compeditor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D |
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| Will4271 |
More styling than the current models but the front end looks kinda weird.
I like the interior though. Not sure what the rear looks like? |
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| dmz |
| I like it! looks more aggresive from the outside and interior is not bad either. I'll probably wait for a couple of year until they iron out all the issues and dealer stop asking for markups for one, then I'll trade in my '05 for one of these. |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by BigHersh
You all laugh at the Tribeca, but the interior looks very "Tribeca-ish" to me.
Well, I laugh at the Tribeca's hideous exterior. But I think its interior is great and an improvement on the current MDX. |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by Happyowner
... But i am not fond of the 41-48 grand price tag.... That better come with alot of standard goodies, because i figure if we get the 48,000 one and i needs like packages, its going to be 54,000 and for that amount,
My assumption is that the speculated $41k-$48k price range does reflect the packages. E.g. $41k for a "base" MDX without any package. Then you can add individual or various combinations of three packages. If you choose to buy all three packages, then it'd be the speculated $48k.
What you would end up paying beyond that would be any accessories that Acura decides not to include with the vehicle. Probably sold at hideous markup by dealerships, and much better purchased from places like Tim's hondacuraworld.com.
Of course, the packages are a bit strange, probably designed to make sure people buy two or three at once and not just one. E.g. what's a Power Liftgate doing in the "Entertainment Package?" That package's main cost component is the rear entertainment system. Automatic climate control requires purchase of the Technology Package, which has the main cost component of the (excellent) Acura nav system. |
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| laborlitigator |
| I need to see it at more angles. From my initial, I don't like th front grille, it protrudes too much. |
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| laborlitigator |
| More like the 06 Saturn Vue. |
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| carguy1234 |
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Originally posted by wmquan
Well, I laugh at the Tribeca's hideous exterior. But I think its interior is great and an improvement on the current MDX.
Are you serious? The Tribeca has very little interior room, and what there is feels cramped. Are you talking about the materials being better? |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by carguy1234
Are you serious? The Tribeca has very little interior room, and what there is feels cramped. Are you talking about the materials being better?
Yep, I'm serious. I wasn't referring to the interior room -- which I agree is cramped compared to the current MDX. I like the interior layout of the Tribeca and how it looks. Materials-wise, it's better in some respects.
The exterior styling though -- ugly.
The new MDX's interior looks like an improvement. I don't think it's a huge improvement -- e.g. it doesn't look like it's plush-luxurious. But I don't think that was Acura's intent. |
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| wmquan |
The nav screen higher and under a hood will help with glare, but it's part of the reason why it doesn't have a touch screen anymore. Like the newer Acuras, you'll have to reach underneath for a knob to control it.
I like the hooded gauges. It should help with glare, which can be a problem in my MDX.
The shift lever is not in the center; closer to the driver. Easier to reach , but I wonder if bigger guys will find it too close to their legs?
The center armrest/console cover is split. Hopefully it's strong and stable so there's no wobble when you have your arm on it.
The steering wheel looks weird, as others have commented. I think the fake aluminum trim on it and the V shape makes it weird.
I can't tell if there are shift paddles behind the steering wheel.
The dead pedal looks different. I'm not sure how much of an improvement it'll be, it looks like the wheel well intrudes into the leg area there and it's a coating on a raised, molded area.
Still a foot-operated emergency brake.
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| Craig_LNU |
| I am none too pleased with what I see and won't be going for a third MDX (2001, 2004). :( My lease ends in May and I will either buy it outright (10K miles on it) or ...considering the Range Rover Sport...we shall see. My wife just ordered the MB GL450 (3-4 month wait) which I very much like. |
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| QRTLOW |
| Think for $48,000 they could have thrown a wood steering wheel in her?? |
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| one4gatr |
quote:
Originally posted by QRTLOW
Think for $48,000 they could have thrown a wood steering wheel in her??
IMHO its pure crap. Oh we want to be luxury but we still cant seem to pull our head out of our a$$ to get there. To be a true luxury player Acura has to come to the plate with the same ammenities as the big boys which (if this actually the new MDX) they have not.
And to give Acura the edge their first models at least need to be a bargain which it appears they are not.
If this is indeed the new MDX I will say its probably our first and last Acura. Tranny on the decline and oh now to boot water in the headlights. Just what I expect from a true luxury player. |
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| Biloxi |
| The interior picture may not be a MDX at all, maybe its an RL with a manual shifter. |
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| SilveradoMDX |
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Originally posted by teton
You sure the headlight height has anything to do with HID?
The Infinity QX56 has HID, and that headlight is where the MDX mirrors are.
-Teton
Park your MDX next to a SUV MB, Lexus, BMW, etc... You will see that the Acura headlight projector is way up, up in the sky. I agree it can be aim, but its angle is more towards the ground instead more up ahead. |
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| SilveradoMDX |
quote:
Originally posted by one4gatr
Agreed wood does not glare as bad as the pic. No real wood in my opinion.
Perhaps, in person might be different. Beside, could just be a high gloss to shine the wood. |
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| SilveradoMDX |
| The steering wheel is not all that bad, once you keep staring at it, its beauty reflects the interior of the MDX. Something different, I guess. |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by Biloxi
The interior picture may not be a MDX at all, maybe its an RL with a manual shifter.
The RL's interior is different enough that the photo can't be the RL's. E.g. the shape of the center stack, where the vents are, the navigation hood, etc.
That photo is likely the MDX's -- notice how wide the vehicle is (e.g. very broad center armrest), and the location of the emergency brake. |
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| SilveradoMDX |
| I wonder if they have those 2 rotten bose speakers at the front.... OR, they gotten rid of it... |
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| inemer |
quote:
Originally posted by QRTLOW
Think for $48,000 they could have thrown a wood steering wheel in her??
I just back from presentation for RDX in Acura 101 in Calabasas.
Sticker is shocking $42,000. That what I paid with TTL in 04' for my MDX!!!! |
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| EXCALIBUR |
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Originally posted by inemer
I just back from presentation for RDX in Acura 101 in Calabasas.
Sticker is shocking $42,000. That what I paid with TTL in 04' for my MDX!!!!
I'm definitely sticking with my trusty 2002 MDX.:eek: |
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| Happyowner |
| Yes that is the interior of the 07'. My dealer seems to be alittle pissed off when i walked in today with pictures of the 07'. My wife and I were interested, because we had recently bought an 06' for our 18 year old daughter, and are now thinking we have twin 15 year olds whom in a year will be driving... (We learning to drive.) And why not give them the 06' to share and then get an 07' after we see what our daughters first semiester grades are like at college! To be honest i know alot of u are knocking the MDX but the exterior is fine, its just the interior.... I like the outside, but i would like to see the interior in person, not on AUTOWEEK, i learned my lesson when i bought the ML if looked great online, and then it kinda wasnt as great after i leased one for 2 years! But in a year alot can change... Also the new RDX we found one stripped on the dealer lot today for $36,000, it isnt really that great either, maybe the engine is nice, but it seems alittle smallish compared to an X3, maybe our daughter will get an 07' X5 or maybe an 07'X3, IDK we first want to c how well she is doing in her studies, and then we will figure out where her car blongs. Personally i am very interested in seeing the Volvo XC90 3.2 and the new X5, those are going to be major compeditiors of the MDX! (X5 will have 355 HP in the V8 and the XC90 has 335 HP.) But only time will tell.... Also we are going need a car for our nanny, (Live-In) so my wife and i were thinking a 03 Audi Allroad, or maybe a Toyota Sienna with AWD, but that will have to wait alittle while, for now the nanny is driving either the SUburban or the GL when we are home, and when we arent home, my wife and i are carting the kids around. |
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| CPanther95 |
Like the paddle shifters and power liftgate is one of my big two wish list items. Still waiting to see if either 3rd row has more legroom, or 2nd row can be adjusted.
My folks are also on a waiting list, but likely won't be real happy that the power liftgate is bundled with the RES. That's the kind of Mickey Mouse bundling I'd expect from one of the Big 3 (or Big 2 now?). So now he'll need the Tech package for Navi (a must) and also the RES for the power liftgate.
That's a feature that should be on the base model of an Acura. |
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| JL_SS |
quote:
Originally posted by CPanther95
My folks are also on a waiting list, but likely won't be real happy that the power liftgate is bundled with the RES. That's the kind of Mickey Mouse bundling I'd expect from one of the Big 3 (or Big 2 now?). So now he'll need the Tech package for Navi (a must) and also the RES for the power liftgate.
Or Toyota, they do the same type of option bundling. They only make certain combinations of options. |
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| carguy1234 |
quote:
Originally posted by JL_SS
Or Toyota, they do the same type of option bundling. They only make certain combinations of options.
Toyota is the worst for option packages.... plus many of the packages are not available in all regions, so the Toyota you can create online at the Toyota.com site may not really be available. I wish Toyota was more Honda like that way, where there are only a few choices so it simplifies the buying process. But it looks like the opposite is happening, Honda is moving more Toyota like. There must be more profit in confusion. |
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| eurohazard |
I hear you carguy1234.
Toyota also charges different prices regionally. People in Arkansas pay more than folks in California............even when equipped the same way. |
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| cardingtr |
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Originally posted by eurohazard
I hear you carguy1234.
Toyota also charges different prices regionally. People in Arkansas pay more than folks in California............even when equipped the same way.
I heard Toyota based it on population intelligence so Texas paid the lowest. :1: |
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| cardingtr |
| Personally at the new predicted price of MDX, all I am asking is a power liftgate, HID lights, HUD for speed and basic Navigation instructions like an arrow, and pre-accident avoidance system is a must to keep Acura's reputation for value intact. |
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| sitti |
| I have been waiting to change my 03 MDX to redesigned MDX. I personally believe that Acura did excellent job with current MDX models, and have been expecting a lot more for 2007. I can't really make any decision until I actually see one and full spec but, at this point, I feel 2007 MDX would less likely be one of our new cars. I am now seriously considering of all-new 2007 X5. |
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| vicpai |
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Originally posted by SilveradoMDX
I wonder if they have those 2 rotten bose speakers at the front.... OR, they gotten rid of it...
......a version of the ELS (Elliot Scheiner)/Panasonic 5.1 DVD-Audio SURROUND SOUND systems. It is possibly the best system in an automobile, period. Going from the Bose in current MDX to the new system will be like going from a horse-cart to a fighter jet (or something akin to that).....from my listening experience in the TL and RDX, this sound system even beats the much hyped MARK LEVINSON system, in overall sound quality, dynamics, imaging and especially CLEAN, TIGHT, ACCURATE, POWERFUL bass. Even the BOSE 5.1 DVD-A Surround sound system in the RL is the best on the market IMO, and beats the Mark Levinson as well. |
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| Ssingh |
Im passing on.....my 05 lease will be over in early 08 but now with my 4 yr daughter growing taller everyday and another addition to the family (4-month son):), I''ll be moving onto most likely, the 06/07 Seqiuoa as I need a larger interior to haul everybody in, and larger back/third row seats.
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| cvyluv |
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Separated at birth?
I don't think those two look anything alike at all!! I mean one is obviously gray and the other is obviously tan!! :D :D |
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| Desant |
| I think these look very much alike - I don't mind at all. I think the interior looks really great. However, based on the picture in this thread, the front looks fugly. That can be the angle too, so it is hard to tell until I see the real deal! :) I like the pics of new X5. Hopefully, the quality will be a little bit better than version 1.0 |
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| QRTLOW |
quote:
Originally posted by Happyowner
Yes that is the interior of the 07'. My dealer seems to be alittle pissed off when i walked in today with pictures of the 07'. My wife and I were interested, because ..................
Okay, Pull up
http://www.autotrader.com
http://www.cars.com
and look exclusively for private sellers in your area. Do a little extra work and save some cash. Pay off somebodies misfortune at or before, end of lease. I saved $$$ a year ago and bailed out a lease from my seller. I mailed a cashiers check and saved. |
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| OP MDX |
| Many of you are bringing up the price, auto tailgate or not, etc - but my issue with it is... it's not very attractive. I'm shocked I don't like it, I had seen the earlier photos from the NY auto show and thought I would like it. It looks different to me. I will check it out in person come October. |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by OP MDX
Many of you are bringing up the price, auto tailgate or not, etc - but my issue with it is... it's not very attractive. I'm shocked I don't like it, I had seen the earlier photos from the NY auto show and thought I would like it. It looks different to me. I will check it out in person come October.
Some folks have complained about some individual styling elements, e.g. the grill. Looks are always subjective, of course.
Interestingly, I haven't seen the same amount of negative comments on the styling as when the NY auto show prototype was shown.
Myself, I have some reservations on the looks but can live with it. Like you, I want to see it in person, and I'd like to see more photos. I'm worried how the rear looks.
I showed my wife the photos. Her reaction was that she liked the vehicle up to the driver's door. She says the rear looks like a minivan and an SUV had a baby (strangely, not too far from the truth). She doesn't like how the rear tapers back with that smallish window.
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| OP MDX |
It's the back I am concerned about. It appears 'rushed' as if it is the RDX. For the length, the rear window should be bigger. The RDX is small so it is understandable. Until I see it in person, I won't have a truly intelligent take on it, so look forward to that.
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Originally posted by wmquan
Some folks have complained about some individual styling elements, e.g. the grill. Looks are always subjective, of course.
Interestingly, I haven't seen the same amount of negative comments on the styling as when the NY auto show prototype was shown.
Myself, I have some reservations on the looks but can live with it. Like you, I want to see it in person, and I'd like to see more photos. I'm worried how the rear looks.
I showed my wife the photos. Her reaction was that she liked the vehicle up to the driver's door. She says the rear looks like a minivan and an SUV had a baby (strangely, not too far from the truth). She doesn't like how the rear tapers back with that smallish window.
She was fine with the interior except for the split armrest.
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| CPanther95 |
I actually like the Auto Show version better that some found too radical a change. This version is a little less "mean" looking, but not bad. I'm hoping the Sport version has a different look to it.
Do those wheel wells look like they are begging for a bigger wheel, or is my perspective skewed?
I also don't care for the look of the split armrest - until I test drove an RL and my wife opened it up without me having to move my elbow - now I look at that as a functional advantage that overrides any aesthetic issue. |
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| Sly_ |
| Interior looks nice but the exterior is awful. Like somebody else said, looks like a mix between a buick rendez-vous and other hybrid-type SUVs. Alas, this was my last MDX. Glad I have the original one for which I loved the style. |
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| vicpai |
quote:
Originally posted by wmquan
Some folks have complained about some individual styling elements, e.g. the grill. Looks are always subjective, of course.
Interestingly, I haven't seen the same amount of negative comments on the styling as when the NY auto show prototype was shown.
Myself, I have some reservations on the looks but can live with it. Like you, I want to see it in person, and I'd like to see more photos. I'm worried how the rear looks.
I showed my wife the photos. Her reaction was that she liked the vehicle up to the driver's door. She says the rear looks like a minivan and an SUV had a baby (strangely, not too far from the truth). She doesn't like how the rear tapers back with that smallish window.
She was fine with the interior except for the split armrest.
......looks are very subjective. Me, personally, I really like the way it looks (beauty is in the eye.....and all)......and like you said, there may be one or two individual styling elements (like the grille for example that looks a bit "overdone") that I may not like, but the overall look is very pleasing to my eyes. Strange as it may seem, I actually like the way the rear tapers down giving it a streamlined, aerodynamic look. It appears to me as a racy "fastback" look. Combined with the small 3rd side window, it makes the vehicle look very "sporty" IMHO, as opposed to a "people mover", which I would DREAD to be seen in (being single and all)......what I mean is, that it gives the vehicle a smaller, more nimble, more agile and sporty look. The fact that the vehicle does not seem to have increased in size (from the look of the pic) also makes me a very very very happy camper!!! :) ....I've always thought the MDX was "JUST THE RIGHT" size, without being too small to sacrifice utility, and without being too large to be a lumbering land barge.
As far as the interior goes, I pretty much like the look (typical Acura trend that's been going on lately a la TL, RL etc.)
Overall, this vehicle is going to be a killer combination of an excellent all round SUV. Perfect size, killer 300bhp/275lb.ft. V6 engine, best NAV system ever, best SOUND system ever, and all the techno goodies to satisfy a NASA scientist, all in a nice "super handling" AWD ;) package for a hair under 50K fully loaded!!.....and if the rumored VCM is true, then great fuel economy can also be expected and is much welcomed in this $3-$4/gal era of gas prices!! :rolleyes:
As far as price goes, I'm willing to bet that at 50K MSRP for one of these, after the initial buying frenzy is over in the first few months, one can expect very good "deals" unlike the 1st gen MDX which was still selling at MSRP 3 years later, when I bought mine....so I'm thinking in it's 2nd year one could be picked up, fully loaded, for a real world price of around 45-46K and THAT would be a stellar value for what this vehicle offers. |
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| freq |
| Depending on the model pictured................no roof rack. :D |
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| carguy1234 |
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Originally posted by vicpai
.......and if the rumored VCM is true, then great fuel economy can also be expected and is much welcomed in this $3-$4/gal era of gas prices!! :rolleyes:
Why do you think cylinder deactivation is going to make for "great fuel economy"? There is little statistical difference in the mileage of those Ody's with the system Vs those without it. Plus people complain about the noise it makes. |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by carguy1234
Why do you think cylinder deactivation is going to make for "great fuel economy"? There is little statistical difference in the mileage of those Ody's with the system Vs those without it. Plus people complain about the noise it makes.
According to the Car Connection article:
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EPA rated economy is 17/22 mpg city/highway.
No mention of VCM though. |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by SilveradoMDX
Perhaps, in person might be different. Beside, could just be a high gloss to shine the wood.
According to the new Car Connection article:
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... we subjectively didn't like were the shiny faux-wood interior trim ...
So that's a big slab of plastic that looks like wood. |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by CPanther95
... My folks are also on a waiting list, but likely won't be real happy that the power liftgate is bundled with the RES. That's the kind of Mickey Mouse bundling I'd expect from one of the Big 3 (or Big 2 now?). So now he'll need the Tech package for Navi (a must) and also the RES for the power liftgate.
That's a feature that should be on the base model of an Acura.
Packaging news from Car Connection isn't that good. Looks like folks may want all three:
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A Technology Package upgrades the already premium audio to a truly awesome 410-watt, six-channel, ten-speaker ELS surround sound system with a six-disc CD/DVD-Audio changer, adds voice-recognition navigation with real-time traffic info and a rearview camera and even links the climate control to the GPS to automatically adjust temperature according to the position of the sun.
A Sport Package includes all of that plus the active dampers, auto-leveling xenon HID headlamps, premium full-grain leather seating, textured metallic interior accents and an exclusive alloy wheel design. An Entertainment Package piles on a remote power-operated tailgate, heated outboard second-row seats, a 110-volt AC power outlet and a rear-seat DVD system with a flip-down nine-inch screen, three audio jacks and a pair of Dolby Digital Surround Sound wireless headphones.
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by vicpai
... The fact that the vehicle does not seem to have increased in size (from the look of the pic) also makes me a very very very happy camper!!! :)
You'll be very happy to know that the new vehicle is just about a couple of inches longer according to Car Connection:
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Length x width x height: 190.7 x 73.6 x 68.2 in
Wheelbase: 108.3 in
Curb weight: 4541 lb
They've even kept the weight under control. |
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| wmquan |
Finally, the list of standard features is decent:
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HID low-beam, halogen high-beam headlamps; Tri-Zone automatic climate control with humidity control and air filtration; keyless remote; cruise control; power tilt/telescope steering wheel; power windows, locks, and mirrors; leather seating; power heated front seats (10-way driver's, 8-way passenger's); Multi-Information Display; Bluetooth wireless telephone interface; 253-watt, eight-speaker premium audio with six-disc in-dash CD, MP3, WMA changer, XM Satellite Radio, and aux input jack
I'm a bit confused about why they said the Sport Package adds "auto-leveling xenon HID headlamps." Is that just a mistake, or are they bi-xenons in the Sport Package (high beams also xenon), or is it just autoleveling (which should be standard!).
Tri-Zone automatic climate control must mean dual-zone up front, but still with the ability to adjust climate controls for the second row. Finally, a welcome feature.
Power seats for driver and passenger are now standard, and the passenger's seat is 8-way instead of 4-way.
Steeering wheel is power tilt/telescope, finally.
Hmmm, I'm beginning to like it. A lot of these features are overdue.
I think the power should be good, with the increased output (with a slight penalty in highway mileage), and not a big weight gain. The article did say they expect a sub-seven second 0-60 time which is definitely faster than the current one (and faster than the RDX).
I like: xenons (finally, and hopefully without the sport package), tri-zone climate control, power liftgate (but I wouldn't buy it if I don't need the RES package), power tilt/telescoping steering wheel (finally), ELS stereo, and the additional power, of course.
I don't know if I'd buy the rear entertainment package, and I'm reserving judgement on the Sport package. They probably figure people will buy it because it says "Sport." But I'd want to hear driving reviews say the dampers make a big difference. If they do, then I'd go for it. I don't reallly care about the "exclusive alloy wheel" design, and I don't know if the leather in it is really premium (Acura leather is rarely premium ...). |
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| dj-mdx2 |
| Most of the longed-for goodies are there but what happened to the auto-locking doors when engaging gear and remote start and/or keyless system? |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by dj-mdx2
Most of the longed-for goodies are there but what happened to the auto-locking doors when engaging gear and remote start and/or keyless system?
They're either not there, or the Car Connection article didn't mention them. I guess we'll find out more as we get to 9/1. All the full info should be out by the evening of 8/31. |
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| QRTLOW |
| Okay, Acura can pull there heads out of their rectum, but how far do they have to reach to easily blow away competitive crap out of the water at a lower price than the Rump Ranger LR3 at $50,000 and 300HP with aerodynamics that need an extra 80HP to break even in the wind tunnel.....How hard does Acura have to work??? I know a mortgage lender who makes (or made) $500K last year and bought a Rover Sport for $72K and didnt ever read the reviews telling them it was JD Powers worst vehicle ever!!! People that blow $$ for their cars don't give a rats a$$...Its all about Status. BTW I wouldn't be caught dead in this $50K crapbox |
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| sma |
"Major standard features: HID low-beam, halogen high-beam headlamps; Tri-Zone automatic climate control with humidity control and air filtration; keyless remote; cruise control; power tilt/telescope steering wheel; power windows, locks, and mirrors; leather seating; power heated front seats (10-way driver's, 8-way passenger's); Multi-Information Display; Bluetooth wireless telephone interface; 253-watt, eight-speaker premium audio with six-disc in-dash CD, MP3, WMA changer, XM Satellite Radio, and aux input jack"
I'm somewhat impressed that Bluetooth seems to be standard and does not require NAV. |
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| Norb |
The LR3 is crap? Sure it is.
And the MDX is just a disguised minivan.
BTW, I'm sure the MDX will get the auto lock feature, the Ody has it. |
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| BigPuppy |
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Originally posted by QRTLOW
[B]I know a mortgage lender who makes (or made) $500K last year and bought a Rover Sport for $72K and didnt ever read the reviews telling them it was JD Powers worst vehicle ever!!!
Technically the Range Rover Sport was not named to the Top 10 Least Reliable Luxury Vehicles list - however much to my dismay both "the proper" Range Rover as well as the LR3 made that list.
Not that the Sport hasn't had its share of problems, but the readout from JD Power specific to the RRS seems to peg the biggest complaint on difficulty in closing its tailgate. On the flip side it happened to score among the highest on appeal, and is projected by ALG to have the highest resale value in its class. It will also tow 7,700 lbs and go places you can only dream about in the MDX (same goes for the "proper" RR and LR3.) On the track the RRS S/C is capable of hitting 140 and its Brembo brakes have been tested to bring the 5,700 lb beast to a halt a mere one-foot longer than a Ford GT (think it's in R&T but don't quote me on this.)
I don't want to once again come off as a Land Rover apologist because there's obviously lots of room for improvement - after all I don't think I'm completely delusional, but compared to any first-year vehicle fully loaded with the latest and greatest gadgets (e.g. 2005 Acura RL) I would doubt the RRS performed a whole lot worse on average.
BTW I'm sure it didn't hurt that your mortage lender received a considerable (albeit scaled down in recent years) tax deduction as an added bonus.
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| JL_SS |
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The LR3 is crap? Sure it is. If you define crap by being at the bottom of it's class in reliability, then it is crap.
And the MDX is just a disguised minivan. The current version is - the 2007 changes that. The MDX is a cross-over, it excels at on road handling with some light off road capability. The LR3 is much better at off roading but it's on road handling is lousy. I would guess that many buying the LR3 are not really using then for off-roading, making the decision to buy one questionable.
BTW, I'm sure the MDX will get the auto lock feature, the Ody has it.
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