| phins2rt |
So is the 7 second delay between shifting into reverse and the backup camera image showing on the screen for real? That seems like it would defeat the purpose of a backup camera.
Otherwise a glowing review, which I expected. |
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| efenska |
| 7 second delay? I did not see that on the two Sports I test drove in the past week. Any lag between shifting into reverse and the backup camera switching on was imperceptible. |
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| rsnaider |
I am guessing the issue is when you first start the car it takes a few seconds for the system to boot.
I personally never start the car and immediatly put the car in reverse. I usually put on my seat belt and let the idle come down for a few seconds, so I have never seen this issue. |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by rsnaider
I am guessing the issue is when you first start the car it takes a few seconds for the system to boot.
That makes more sense! :29: |
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| pendrago77 |
| i have encountered a 7 sec. delay. like previously stated, once you start the car, and let it idle while putting your seat belt on and all, seems flawless to me. once the system is booted, once you click on reverse, instant pic from rear pops up on screen. |
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| mkaresh |
I have severe problems with CR's reliability research--otherwise I wouldn't be developing an alternative--but generally agree with their road test results. This case is no exception. As they note, the driving experience falls between the BMW and the Lexus.
I am somewhat suprised they got the Tech but didn't get the Sport. Maybe they'll explain this choice in the full review.
They should have been clearer that the delay is only after start-up. This is implied, but not clear. Also, they mention the "wood" without noting that it's not real wood. |
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| sobrien1087 |
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Originally posted by rsnaider
I am guessing the issue is when you first start the car it takes a few seconds for the system to boot.
I personally never start the car and immediatly put the car in reverse. I usually put on my seat belt and let the idle come down for a few seconds, so I have never seen this issue.
In that same vein, I usually put the key in the ignition and let the car go through its motions (primarily with the steering wheel adjustments based on my "Driver 1" recognition) before I actually turn the key. I'm sure it's OK to start the ignition immediately as it makes the adjustments, but I noticed the car wasn't real happy the one time I was in a hurry and did that. It seemed like the power was temporarily drained as the car multi-tasked during startup.
It would have been nice to shave that 7 second delay down to 4 or 5 seconds, but I don't get overly bothered by it. Plus, I'm still "old school" and rely more on my own head turning around to see what I'm backing up against, or at least my two side mirrors - especially in direct sun, which renders the rear view camera nearly useless. |
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| efenska |
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As they note, the driving experience falls between the BMW and the Lexus.
I drove a BMW X5 3.0si non-sport and a Lexus GX470 before driving the MDX... All in one afternoon. The BMW and Lexus folks let you take it around the block - no challenge at all. The Acura salesman had a challenging course laid out on the Navi in the demo Tech MDX, and really let me have fun with it (no, I did not beat it!). I left the Acura dealership trying to remember why I had considered BMW and Lexus at all. When I went back to drive a Sport, the experience was even better. Only X5 that will top the MDX is the 4.8 with sport (what's that cost - $70k?). |
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| Fabvsix |
My 2003 MDX rear view camera worked flawlessly and quick. My 2005 MDX took even longer to "warm up" as some as stated and the quality of the pixels were worse. Now my 2007 does indeed take 7 seconds or so and the quality is worse in my opinion. Another area where Acura cut corners !
Area's i've noticed:
Hood is paper light!
Passengers doors are light like tin cans compared to my previous X's...
Quality of the Navi screen back up camera
Rear view mirror sucks, embarrasing that you have to "upgrade" with a $48,000.00 vehicle.....
Floor mats are paper thin too
Fit and Finish are not superior to my previous models....
These are things that come to mind...
One would think they are trying to keep the weight of the vehicle down, but adding VTECH, a 300 HP engine it isn't all that much faster than the previous generation in my humble opinion...... |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by Fabvsix
Area's i've noticed:
Hood is paper light!
Does anyone know is the hood made of aluminum like the RL's? Or is it just thinner steel? |
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| dogwhistle |
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Originally posted by phins2rt
Does anyone know is the hood made of aluminum like the RL's? Or is it just thinner steel?
It is aluminum. That is one of their weight-saving features Acura has been touting about the X. |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by dogwhistle
It is aluminum. That is one of their weight-saving features Acura has been touting about the X.
Thanks dogwhistle. Do you know if there are any other areas of the body made of aluminum? I believe the RL has the hood, trunk and maybe the front quarters. |
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| Fabvsix |
| very cool! Do you any data to support this? Perhaps on the Acura web site? |
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| phins2rt |
quote:
Originally posted by Fabvsix
very cool! Do you any data to support this? Perhaps on the Acura web site?
Found something:
The 2007 Acura MDX continues its "Safety Through Innovation" with pedestrian protection features such as a deformable aluminum hood and hood hinges, and breakaway windshield-wiper pivots.
http://www.hondanews.com/catid3025?...870453&mime=asc
Looks like it is just the hood. |
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| rsnaider |
Or just use a magnet.
Only the hood is aluminum according to a random fridge magnet. |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by Fabvsix
very cool! Do you any data to support this? Perhaps on the Acura web site?
Just Google for:
2007 acura mdx "aluminum hood"
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LIGHTWEIGHT ALUMINUM
In addition, some 4.1% of the 2007 MDX body components are aluminum. This material is ideal for certain components such as the hood and instrument panel support, where light weight is required but the strength of steel is not imperative.
The hood on the first-generation MDX was steel, and the weight savings of using aluminum instead of steel for the 2007 MDX hood is 15.5 pounds. Aside from using a unique metal conditioner and phosphate dip prior to painting, there are no unique production challenges for using an aluminum hood - and no ownership compromises either. To improve environmental efficiency, a factory separation line isolates different scrap materials, including aluminum, for recycling.
The aluminum instrument panel support saves an additional 10.5 pounds compared to a traditional steel unit. This support, which connects the A pillars to the front floor crossmember, is a structural element consisting of cast parts, extrusions and sheet aluminum.
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| Fabvsix |
| I stand corrected. Love learning something "new to me" about the 2007 MDX! :2: |
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| Husker4theSpurs |
Here is my thought on the "delay" with the reverse camera.
The Nav system basically gets caught trying to do 2 things when you shift it into reverse quickly. It is loading the Navigation system initially and then it gets bogged down trying to activate the camera when shifting into reverse as well. It's trying to boot up the Nav system and bring up the legal (OK) screen as well as trying to activate the rear camera screen. |
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| sobrien1087 |
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Originally posted by Husker4theSpurs
Here is my thought on the "delay" with the reverse camera.
...It's trying to boot up the Nav system and bring up the legal (OK) screen as well as trying to activate the rear camera screen.
Do you think Acura's lawyers worked overtime on this one? This is Acura's "cover thine own a**" statement, which forces you to give up any and all rights to possible law suits because you were too stupid to remember that you must first look at the road, before attempting to operate any computerized on board data systems while the car remains in motion!
After further legal refinement I can envision Acura's future "OK" clause to read something like this:
By clicking "OK" I hereby acknowledge that Acura has fully explained to me the concept of being a total f*cking idiot, if, by my own conscientious choosing, I decide to forgo the proper operation of this vehicle, whilst further disobeying the governing rules of my local, state and/or federal highway jurisdiction, and instead opting to merely stare at this navigation system, or if by my further choosing, listen to the femininely vocalized guidance system.
I hereby indemnify and hold harmless Acura, it's parent company Honda, and/or the entire nation of Japan, or any of said parties' subsidiaries, to include, but not be limited to local autoworkers and labor unions throughout New York, Ohio and/or Canada, from any damage or future lawsuits arising from my own fault, negligence or failure to obey said laws.
In addition I acknowledge that while a group of sequestered computer geeks, with the full cooperation of NASA, the US government, and all its satellite franchises, did their best to offer me the most accurate navigation data possible, it is readily known that, while highly unlikely, this navigation system may accidentally, and without any prior knowledge of above said parties, send me down the wrong way on a one way street, or send me into unknown, uncharted or simply unwanted territorial boundaries, which could lead to instances of unsolicited bodily harm or the unapproved confiscation of personal possessions. In such cases I fully and without any predisposition, acknowledge my own acceptance of any and all consequences arising out of such incidents, and forever indemnify, and hold harmless all above noted parties, their heirs and successors from any and all responsibility, liability and sensibility.
Lastly I acknowledge that in the combined 7 second period of startup followed by the subsequent two minutes that were necessary for me to fully comprehend, absorb, and accept the ramifications of my own failure to abide by such sound guidance and governance, that my car has utilized a gallon of premium gas, which may lead to the inaccurate display of average fuel consumption, which by no fault of Acura, may also cause such averages to not correlate with currently advertised fuel efficiency levels. But since I need to get the hell out of here I acknowledge my own need to press the "OK' button. :bonk: |
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| dj-mdx2 |
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Originally posted by sobrien1087
Do you think Acura's lawyers worked overtime on this one? :bonk:
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| sobrien1087 |
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Originally posted by dj-mdx2
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I'm thinking that since I just did all the dirty work for Acrua's legal team (and I'm no where close to being a lawyer) that the least they could do now is send me a dollar everytime an Acura owner starts their car and presses the "OK" button!;) |
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| rsgacura |
They just copied what BMW did, no lawyer at all!
Now that BMW changed the programming on my 530i, I don't to click "Accept" button. Soon, Acura needs to do the same!!! |
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| sobrien1087 |
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Now that BMW changed the programming on my 530i, I don't to click "Accept" button. Soon, Acura needs to do the same!!! [/B]
No, no, you MUST click OK!!!!! :awais:
I need the money! :D |
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