| porupsky |
Anyone else having problems opening the gas door. I press the button and nothing happens. I live in the cold, so I brought it into the garage and turned a heater on to warm it up. Maybe some water got in there and froze.
If not, then it is electrical. It is my first attempt to add gas to this fine new vehicle. |
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| Luke |
I haven't heard it before but I wonder if it's related to the door lock actuator problems.
There were certainly several reports that the door locks didn't open in the cold...
Not sure though how the gas door opens and if it uses also an actuator. |
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| porupsky |
| After the X warmed up in the garage it open when I tapped on the door. I will have to watch it though since I have never had an issue like this with the Pilot, TSX or Accord. |
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| crazymjb |
Its an electrical button? I have only seen cable operated latches, and on the hand opened ones, electric locks.
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| Luke |
quote:
Originally posted by crazymjb
Its an electrical button? I have only seen cable operated latches, and on the hand opened ones, electric locks.
Mike
I assume it uses an actuator as well which is a small electric motor. Puzzles me though why in the cold the actuator doesn't work well.
I think Honda should take this seriously and investigate this asap since this can be a very dangerous situation. Think about if you can't open your car in the cold and you are in a remote area with no cell reception... |
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| vapors |
| I live in a cold weather climate also. A couple of weeks ago when we were having single digit lows and high only in the mid twenties, I had similar problems. The first time it happened, I had to get out and tap on the door and it opened right up. The second time, I hit the button 2 or 3 times, but it did eventually open up. I hope this isn't indicative of a more serious problem either :3: |
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| Corry |
Same problem. Tried it when it was really cold. I guess it was frozen.
Tapped a few times and opened. |
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| treisner |
| It was in the low 20s here today after a light snow yesterday. I needed to tap the door and press the button several times before it opened. I assumed it had just been frozen shut, but after it opened it didn't appear to have any ice. Now I find that others have had this problem. Not good. |
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| mtbr |
| Me too...had this problem this past week. It was pretty cold out when it happened...but I had to pry it open very carefully with the blade of a pocket knife. Haven't filled it up since, but am hoping this isn't a consistent problem. |
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| alexgrimmy |
| Same here. Had to repeatedly go back and forth between tapping the gas cap and pressing button about 3 times before it opens. It looks like its just frozen. |
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| pendrago77 |
| same here. i couldn't open up my gas cover yesterday, and i had to tap on it a few times. and then it opened. but now my problem is with the gas cover itself. check out my new thread..... |
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| phins2rt |
quote:
Originally posted by pendrago77
same here. i couldn't open up my gas cover yesterday, and i had to tap on it a few times. and then it opened. but now my problem is with the gas cover itself. check out my new thread.....
got a link??? |
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| Pinoy_999 |
Okay, me too! I live in Northern NJ...all the while I thought the gas cover was already opened. The gas attendant had puzzle looked on his face...
...please open this funky gas cover, it's cold out here
...it was opened already
When I looked from the side mirror, yeah! the guy was correct...gas cover still close. I gave another press on the button and he taps the cover...nothing happen...not until four tries before he sees an opening and help lifted the cover. The bottom line is...the gas cover stuck in cold wheather conditions. And you will look bad, especially when people are in line and waiting for a fill up. |
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| Luke |
quote:
Originally posted by Pinoy_999
Okay, me too! I live in Northern NJ...all the while I thought the gas cover was already opened. The gas attendant had puzzle looked on his face...
...please open this funky gas cover, it's cold out here
...it was opened already
When I looked from the side mirror, yeah! the guy was correct...gas cover still close. I gave another press on the button and he taps the cover...nothing happen...not until four tries before he sees an opening and help lifted the cover. The bottom line is...the gas cover stuck in cold wheather conditions. And you will look bad, especially when people are in line and waiting for a fill up.
I think this warrants a recall especially if this is also related to the bad actuators in the doors. Anyone talked to the dealer trying to fix this? |
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| rtw |
My gas cap door frequently needs to be coaxed open. It often requires multiple presses of button. I live in an area where we don't have freezing during the day and the problem is a mild nuisance.
A few weeks ago I was in the Truckee in freezing weather and I thought the gas cap door would never open, but it eventually did. I guess this is a "real" problem and will need to be addressed.... |
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| Corry |
Just spray a little WD40 people !!
That will prevent it from freezing. |
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| porupsky |
| It has warmed up in MN and I no longer have issues with it. Must just happen when it is -0F. |
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| Jesting2 |
I have had problems with the Fuel Filler Door not opening also. The problem started when the temperatures started dropping in our area. Visited the dealer and they checked it out, lubricated it and it appeared to be working well. I also brought to their attention that the door was not properly aligned. They didn't seem to think they could do anything about that and checked the MDX models on the floor. Sure enough, all of them were misaligned also.
The next day the door would not open when I tried to fill up and I called the dealer who said they would order a replacement part. I had it installed last Friday, a two hour+ job. Haven't had to fill up since, but last night I wanted to top it up and what do you know. it would not open. The temperature was about -15 Celsius, so it seems to be a cold thing since it worked well in the heated dealership.
I will have to go back to them again and will keep you posted as to what they do next. By the way, I live only about 40KM from where they make these and have a friend at the plant in management. I am going to pass this problem on to him so that they can investigate it.
By the way, DON'T TRY TO PRY THE FUEL DOOR OPEN ! The dealer made me aware that if it happened while I was waiting for the replacement, that there is an alternative way to open the door. Open the rear hatch and on the side panel just behind the driver side wheel well you will find a panel about 8" x 10" that is held in place by velcro. Pry it off and inside at the top you will find a white lever (you will have to peer inside to find it) you can pull to manually open the door. Details are in your owner's manual.
OH,... Last night I had to resort to the manual method. Took a half a dozen pulls on it before the dang thing would open. *#@#*!! It was too darned cold to be doing that!!!!
2007 MDX base
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| Luke |
quote:
Originally posted by Jesting2
By the way, DON'T TRY TO PRY THE DOOR OPEN ! The dealer made me aware that if it happened while I was waiting for the replacement, that there is an alternative way to open the door. Open the rear hatch and on the side panel just behind the driver side wheel well you will find a panel about 8" x 10" that is held in place by velcro. Pry it off and inside at the top you will find a white lever (you will have to peer inside to find it) you can pull to manually open the door. Details are in your owner's manual.
OH,... Last night I had to resort to the manual method. Took a half a dozen pulls on it before the dang thing would open. *#@#*!! It was too darned cold to be doing that!!!!
2007 MDX base
9,971KM [/B]
By the way isn't the rear hatch not also affected by this problem? I thought someone earlier had to call Acura to get into the car.
Also you could just climb forward to the driver seat from the hatch?
So far I've tested my MDX at -5c / 23F and no problems. But I won't know for sure I guess until temperatures drop more.
OOPS, ignore I thought the doors wouldn't open in the cold. Which is sadly another reported issue... |
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| kingmdx |
quote:
Originally posted by Jesting2
I have had problems with the Fuel Filler Door not opening also. The problem started when the temperatures started dropping in our area. Visited the dealer and they checked it out, lubricated it and it appeared to be working well. I also brought to their attention that the door was not properly aligned. They didn't seem to think they could do anything about that and checked the MDX models on the floor. Sure enough, all of them were misaligned also.
The next day the door would not open when I tried to fill up and I called the dealer who said they would order a replacement part. I had it installed last Friday, a two hour+ job. Haven't had to fill up since, but last night I wanted to top it up and what do you know. it would not open. The temperature was about -15 Celsius, so it seems to be a cold thing since it worked well in the heated dealership.
I will have to go back to them again and will keep you posted as to what they do next. By the way, I live only about 40KM from where they make these and have a friend at the plant in management. I am going to pass this problem on to him so that they can investigate it.
By the way, DON'T TRY TO PRY THE FUEL DOOR OPEN ! The dealer made me aware that if it happened while I was waiting for the replacement, that there is an alternative way to open the door. Open the rear hatch and on the side panel just behind the driver side wheel well you will find a panel about 8" x 10" that is held in place by velcro. Pry it off and inside at the top you will find a white lever (you will have to peer inside to find it) you can pull to manually open the door. Details are in your owner's manual.
OH,... Last night I had to resort to the manual method. Took a half a dozen pulls on it before the dang thing would open. *#@#*!! It was too darned cold to be doing that!!!!
2007 MDX base
9,971KM
Haven't gone below zero as yet ...last winter we did have -24 on certain days ...so I'll keep this in mind for sure. I will also lube this up now prior to it getting colder and see if it helps ...maybe I will use white grease which works in cold weather great much better than WD40 etc. for these kinda problems. |
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| Jesting2 |
| Spoke to my contact at the factory last night. He tells me there is a service bulletin to dealers on this which should be in their hands now and which provides the solution. He is to get in touch with me so that I can take the information back to the dealer to get this corrected. As soon as I have the details, I will pass them on. |
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| Needsdecaf |
quote:
Originally posted by kingmdx
Haven't gone below zero as yet ...last winter we did have -24 on certain days ...so I'll keep this in mind for sure. I will also lube this up now prior to it getting colder and see if it helps ...maybe I will use white grease which works in cold weather great much better than WD40 etc. for these kinda problems.
You are correct. WD40 is a rust penetrator, not a lubricant. |
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| Needsdecaf |
quote:
Originally posted by Jesting2
Spoke to my contact at the factory last night. He tells me there is a service bulletin to dealers on this which should be in their hands now and which provides the solution. He is to get in touch with me so that I can take the information back to the dealer to get this corrected. As soon as I have the details, I will pass them on.
Suspect that it's this one:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/b07-058.PDF |
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| hipcheck |
| Thanks for posting this. I am starting to see this problem. |
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| jdangdc |
let me jump on the band wagon and say that this issue has happened to me quite a few times. mostly in colder weather but a few times when it wasn't so cold. now what can we do? do we need send something to Acura/honda and see if they can do anything about it? for a $60+K car, i'd like to think that they'd take care of it.
let me know your thoughts.
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| kingmdx |
quote:
Originally posted by jdangdc
let me jump on the band wagon and say that this issue has happened to me quite a few times. mostly in colder weather but a few times when it wasn't so cold. now what can we do? do we need send something to Acura/honda and see if they can do anything about it? for a $60+K car, i'd like to think that they'd take care of it.
let me know your thoughts.
JD
FYI:
Needsdecaf posted the TSB link about 3 posts up ...you can print it and carry it with you to the service dept. at your dealer. They will repair it under warranty etc. |
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| Luke |
quote:
Originally posted by kingmdx
FYI:
Needsdecaf posted the TSB link about 3 posts up ...you can print it and carry it with you to the service dept. at your dealer. They will repair it under warranty etc.
There was also a similar issue reported last year where people couldn't unlock the door when it was very cold. Some people said those where bad locks. Any TSB for that? |
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| clubtryp01 |
has anyone tried replacing the fuel door. My stealer asking
$300 to replace it. My 07 mdx has no warranty since I imported
it to canada. |
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| kingmdx |
quote:
Originally posted by clubtryp01
has anyone tried replacing the fuel door. My stealer asking
$300 to replace it. My 07 mdx has no warranty since I imported
it to canada.
Wow ..when you import a X into canada (from the US I assume) you don't have warranty !!?? .. ouch |
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| Jesting2 |
quote:
Originally posted by clubtryp01
has anyone tried replacing the fuel door. My stealer asking
$300 to replace it. My 07 mdx has no warranty since I imported
it to canada.
I had my filler door replaced at the dealer and it took more than 2 hours. At $95/hr, there is more than half their quote. You would have to find out what the parts cost to know if they are giving you a fair shake.
The service bulletin referred to in an earlier post by NEEDSDECAF in this thread does not include a new filler door as far as I can see. You might want to get the dealer to quote on that service bulletin before doing anything. |
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| Orbiter9211 |
| same issue in cold weather. Tapping required. Not good for 45K SUV. |
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| SilverSleeper |
I have this problem as well. For the past several weeks I've had this issue since the temperatures have been down in the upper teens and twenties. I've had to hit the button any where between 3-6 times just to get the door to open. Also, I noticed that the arm that holds the door and the door are plastic held together by double sided tape. My door seems to be misaligned too as the rear edge is right up against the metal. First off, who makes a gas door of plastic? Second, how is this secure?
Also, my driver's side door handle on the outside has a similar issue when it is cold. Once the cars is unlocked and you pull the handle to enter and release it the handle does not slide back into place all the way. Anyone else experience that? |
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| cybulman |
Try spraying silicone or de-icer into the moving parts...it may help.
My gas door, windows also would not move up/down after the recent ice storm.
Cy |
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| gogozy |
| i dont have the X but question.. did they fix this on 2008 model? |
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| Luke |
quote:
Originally posted by gogozy
i dont have the X but question.. did they fix this on 2008 model?
I don't know since I have the '07 but I'm bringing mine in next weekend for an oil change and I have asked to do the posted TSB fix for this issue. |
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| dejavudu94 |
| Sorry I haven't been to this site in a while. I figured this out a while back but I'm surprised to see so many people with the same issue. I know that on mine, the cold weather is not the issue and no lubricant will resolve this (except for a little elbow grease lol). I live in the Bay Area and it is not that cold here. I believe the gas door hinge is the issue. Over time the gas door appears to have moved a few millimeters towards the rear of the car. Each time I press the gas door release button, the door does not open. This has frequently happened to me when I am at the gas station trying to get gas. Each time I have to get out the car, stick my finger nails in the gap towards the rear of the gas door and pull/slide it towards the front of the car. Just a little bit of pressure moves the gas door a few millimeters forward and the gas cap opens everytime I go back and press the button on the door again. Try it and see if it works for you the next time it does not open. Unfortunately I still have to do this each time I get to the gas station. Talk about embarrassing! Atleast I can open the door and not have to bang on it or wait until it decides to open. Good thing nobody has a clue what the heck I am doing when they see me get out of my car at the gas station. |
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| Jesting2 |
quote:
Originally posted by dejavudu94
I figured this out a while back but I'm surprised to see so many people with the same issue.
You don't indicate how long you have been having this problem but based on your comments, it has been quite a while. I am amazed that you are putting up with the issue. Have you not referred this to the dealer for correction?
You mention that temperature is not an issue for your problem, whereas my problem and that of many others has been directly associated with cold temperatures and precipitation. My problem goes away when the truck is in the garage for service or when the sun melts the snow & ice. Perhaps you are experiencing a different problem altogether. |
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| alsea |
| I am having the same issue with my 10 month old '07. Usually opens after a few button pushes but is getting worse. No temperature issues here in NorCal. |
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| craniotes |
I know that my issue had nothing to do with temperature, as I was experiencing it in 90 degree weather as well as 30 degree weather. Sometimes it would take over 6 stabs of the release button to get the damn door to open.
I'm not sure what my dealer did, but when I brought my X in last month to have the roof rails installed, they fixed it. It stuck once the first time I tried it (it opened on the second try), but since then it has opened on the first try each time I've filled up.
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| Jesting2 |
"needsdecaf" posted the following link to a TSB:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/b07-058.PDF
For those still having problems with their fuel door sticking, you might want to take a copy of this to the dealer. The cold weather fix may solve other problems also. |
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| Needsdecaf |
quote:
Originally posted by Jesting2
You don't indicate how long you have been having this problem but based on your comments, it has been quite a while. I am amazed that you are putting up with the issue. Have you not referred this to the dealer for correction?
You mention that temperature is not an issue for your problem, whereas my problem and that of many others has been directly associated with cold temperatures and precipitation. My problem goes away when the truck is in the garage for service or when the sun melts the snow & ice. Perhaps you are experiencing a different problem altogether.
I have both problems, I believe. It has only surfaced in cold weather, and I did find (when I got it open) where the ice would have locked the arm in place.
But I also notice that in addition to my door not being flush at the top, that it also is very very close to the back edge, but not the front.
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| dejavudu94 |
| I've had this issue for about a month now. I got my MDX around March of last year and it has about 12,000 miles on it. I've been too busy and have not had time to take it to the dealer. I will probably take it in soon though. For right now, the fingernail solution seems to be a quick temporary fix for me. |
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| oracion1 |
Me 10, 11 0r 12...
Same here! It was cold but not freezing. I had to press the release button and tapped the gas door a few times. Looks like a pretty stupid problem on a $45K car. |
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| Luke |
My dealer got new fuel door in and they replaced it yesterday (which would fix both the stuck fuel door plus the frozen fuel door).
Hopefully that would completely fix it.
I still do have a problem with squeaking sound from the sunroof compartment (when it's cold mainly). They tried to fix it but seems it got worse so I'm bringing it back. |
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| HAJ |
quote:
Originally posted by rtw
My gas cap door frequently needs to be coaxed open. It often requires multiple presses of button. I live in an area where we don't have freezing during the day and the problem is a mild nuisance.
A few weeks ago I was in the Truckee in freezing weather and I thought the gas cap door would never open, but it eventually did. I guess this is a "real" problem and will need to be addressed....
Yup, the same thing hapened to me day before yesterday with my '05 X... we'd just has a snow storm and I went to gas up and couldnt get the gas cap door to open. Ended up tapping it a few times with my fist and pulling the remote hatch release again before it opened. Guess some water seeped in there and froze the door shut. |
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| HAJ |
quote:
Originally posted by Jesting2
HAJ:
There is a service bulletin on this problem.
Go to: http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/b07-058.PDF
Print off the service bulletin and take it to your dealer for the repair.
Jesting2
This is really good information -- thank you so much! |
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| SharpOne |
Has anyone gotten the posted TSB service done and had no more problems? I am scheduled to go in on Friday, and see what they say. It was cold as sh@* out last night and that stupid gas door wouldn't open. I banged on it, pushed on it, tried to use the manual opening...nothing. Fortunately, I had enough gas to make it home.
In the morning it still wouldn't open, and I had to pour some hot water over the door, then it opened right up. I dried it off as best I could, and by the time I got to the gas station it had frozen up again. Fortunately, a slight tap and it opened up.
Ha, ha it was so cold out when I was messing with the manual opening I broke off one of the tabs for that little velcro cover trying to get it back on. I'll ask them to replace that as well.
Then on top of that after I filled up I saw that the little rotating ring that tethers the gas cap (so you don't have to hold on to it) had frozen to the cap itself and as a result it was difficult to screw the cap back in. It's still cold as bjeezus out...very much a pain in the ass. Lastly, where the gas door always seemed to be pretty flush to the body, now it seems that I have the top sticking out as mentioned in the one thread.
Sorry for the rant, but like I said, it was daaaaamn cold last night, and this morning for that matter.
Anyway, anyone with previous sticking problems find that the TSB has resolved their issue? |
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| Luke |
I got it fixed 2 weeks ago and so far no problems. However it hasn't been that cold (around 32F for a few days).
The thing that I didn't completely got fixed is the creaking sunroof compartment. Pretty annoying especially over uneven pavement.
The fix worked for 2 days or so and then it started creaking little bit again. I also think this is related to cold weather as well. |
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| Autonomy |
quote:
Originally posted by Jesting2
HAJ:
There is a service bulletin on this problem.
Go to: http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/b07-058.PDF
Print off the service bulletin and take it to your dealer for the repair.
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I think this should be a Sticky!
I think there should be a Sticky on all MDX 2007 or new Service Bulletin (TSB) |
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| stvapdxor |
| It had nothing to do with the cold weather. I had the same problem with the gas door not opening. Took it to Acura and was told there was some internal problem with the spring. They had to replace the the whole gas door set up all the way to the switch. I went back 2 weeks later because the part was on back order and had the new kit installed. Everything works great now. |
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| Jesting2 |
Took the M in to the dealer March 14th to get the factory fix for the fuel filler door. It took them ages to get the part and over an hour to do the fix! The dang thing has been freezing shut all winter and now that spring is just about here they fix it. I hope! They told me that the fix is a heavier spring that pushes harder on the door to open it. I have found ice at the bottom of the door and adjacent to it in the opening. I have had to pound on the door to break the ice to get it to open, I am suspicious of a stronger spring being the solution! :confused:
If it still freezes shut I am going to be really pissed!!! |
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| Jesting2 |
Just got back home after another visit to the dealer. They gave me a loner (another 2007 MDX) and I went off to do my thing. Got back about 3 hours later and they told me that the mechanic who did the repair missed attaching a rod to the filler door and so it would not open regardless of it being warm or cold. My question... "So didn't he check to see it was working before releasing the vehicle?" Service Manager agreed and I got the impression that somebody was on the carpet for this.
They were very apologetic and I believe genuinely embarrassed for me having to make a second trip in two working days for the same complaint.
I guess these things will happen. Hopefully it is fixed for good! |
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