| battman2487 |
I know this has beat to death but I was really unable to determine if there was as any concensus:
Should I have my first oil change done at 3500 miles or wait until 7500 due to the special oil used?
Along with that, the MDX is my first vehicle that has the oil life indicator. Should I still change every 3500 miles as I have done most of my adult life or go with the oil life indicator? |
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| rsnaider |
Mine is going in on Monday for it's first oil change. I have asked this qestion myself on these forums and there does appear to be some additive but I own my truck and cannot wait that long on Mineral oil.
For those that are leasing and would rather cause problems for the next owner, you can wait until the lights tell you. My indicator right now is at 50% Oil Life so it would appear to run pretty close to 7k if I let it go long enough.
My truck has 3,000 and that is the longest I have ever waited for a first oil change. I have always done it at 1,000. |
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| sobrien1087 |
| I just rolled over 4000 miles. I thought about the early check up and then recalled my boss telling me that the local Acura dealer sent him away, when he tried to come in early for an oil change. They told him the computer knows best, and to make the appointment when the car told him to. That's bold... |
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| lynphie2 |
| My X just had the first oil change, it was about 6200 miles (Oil Life was at 5%). I waited until the maintenance reminder prompts me to do so. I can feel there's a noticable difference in horse power after the service. |
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| Nimrod |
| Did you put synthetic in, or normal grade?? |
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| lynphie2 |
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Originally posted by Nimrod
Did you put synthetic in, or normal grade??
I don't know. I think SuperTech will have the answer for that. It does not states what type of oil was used on the service paperwork. |
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| G. COLTON |
I did my first oil change at 1,800 miles so that I could go to full synthetic oil and also to get rid of any possilbe leftovers from teh manufacturing process.
As far as going with the onboard computed oil change interval I have not yet made up my mind. My wife's Cadillac has that feature. On that car I also did the first oil change before the computer said that I should. I am comfortable running full systhetic oil up to 8,000 to 10,000 miles, IF the vehicle is operated in a relatively mild manner. (Like the Clark Kent version) However, the Cadillac seems to be going past that before it ask for the second oil change. I imagine that I will change tha oil before the computer recommends it.
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| dj-mdx2 |
| You should add a third poll option: "Follow dealer advice". Since my vehicle is under warranty, that is what I intend to do. No sense in making an extra trip and spending extra dough if they tell me "Call us with the code" when I asked about the first oilchange. I will specify synthetic when they change it though. |
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| scorpion114 |
| And if its dirty and black, I change it. Everyone drives differently, so this may not work economically for everyone. For me, its usually around 3-4k miles, sometimes more sometimes less.. I let the Acura dealer put in their recommended oil so its for sure not Mobil-1 Synthetic.. I have heard that some people that use Synthetics will go a long time but change the filter out at half the time.. This makes sense to me, since the filter is what's holding all the crap that would float around.. Of course when you change the filter, you will have to top off the oil part of a quart or so I guess.. DanF |
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| SullyC5er |
| Oil is the least expensive part of maintaining the engine. I base my decision on the type of miles...frequent starts & around town vs Interstate miles. In all my cars, I go 3000 around town & 5000 Interstate. I use Royal Purple in my other cars & I will do the same in the MDX. Mobil 1 is more hype than substance. |
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| razorbackura |
| my dealer has emailed me requesting that i bring my 07 mdx in for a 3750 mile oil change. i thought the suggested change from the company was to change when the computer indicated. what's up with this? is this just a ploy to make money or has there been a change in acura's oil change policy for the mdx? anyone else get this request from the dealer? |
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| scorpion114 |
| Vehicles a little over 3k - maybe its 3,750 too. The first change is free so I dont mind doing that. I know that Acura wants you to not change the initial oil fill out until its been at least 3k miles, so that it helps the engine break in properly. Acura uses some extra stuff in this initial fill that helps with that process for the 1st 3k or so miles then you need to dump it and refill with fresh. I read an article recently that says only a few oils still have all the original additives that helped engines not wear as fast. Believe one was Shell Rotella, an oil that is used in diesels.. DanF |
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| mgmdx |
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Originally posted by razorbackura
my dealer has emailed me requesting that i bring my 07 mdx in for a 3750 mile oil change. ... is this just a ploy to make money ...
Yes. :4: |
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| razorbackura |
| thanks. i thought so. my computer says i still have 50% life left. |
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| sobrien1087 |
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Originally posted by dj-mdx2
You should add a third poll option: "Follow dealer advice". Since my vehicle is under warranty, that is what I intend to do. No sense in making an extra trip and spending extra dough if they tell me "Call us with the code" when I asked about the first oilchange. I will specify synthetic when they change it though.
Interestingly enough I just rolled over 5300 miles today and the A1 code appeared. I scrolled through the MID and saw that the oil was indeed down to 15%, so I called Acura to set up the appointment for the change and rotation.
When speaking to the service manager I noted my preference for synthetic oil and he told me I'd only be wasting my money. I told him that in my Toyota lines I regularly changed between 5-7.5K miles while utilizing synthetic oil, and the 5300 miles that I just rolled over put me on track with similar interval spacing. He told me that it's vary rare that he sees any degradation in regular oil, when compared to synthetic, at that mileage range.
Any additional thoughts from the gang? Given the fact that I'd be paying $40 over what normally is a free oil change (first round) I found it interesting that the manager would try to talk me out of it. |
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| Jin_Chris |
sobrien1087
I wouldn't disagree with your mechanic.
With regular oil change interval (3k~5k or even 7.5k), I don't think it is going to make that much difference between syn and conventional under normal daily driving.
I personally never had any issues with changing oils with conventional ones for my multiple Toyota's and Acura's.
For my Toyota, I just grab whatever available oil filter and use either Castrol or Valvoline oil and change between usually around 3~5k, at 120k miles, I don't see it burns any oil or anything...
For my Acura's, a bit odd is that the oil seems get dark pretty quickly compared to my Toyota (with same interval, same oils, but with OEM filter). But no any issues...
Just a side story, the Beemer X5 of my neighbor with synthetic oil at 10k interval at dealer, blew its oil seal when the temp went down below 0F in this winter... don't know if it was due to oil or something else.... but it was quite surprising to me to see Beemer engine has trouble at relatively low miles ( < 100k miles) |
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| dj-mdx2 |
quote:
Originally posted by sobrien1087
Interestingly enough I just rolled over 5300 miles today and the A1 code appeared. I scrolled through the MID and saw that the oil was indeed down to 15%, so I called Acura to set up the appointment for the change and rotation.
When speaking to the service manager I noted my preference for synthetic oil and he told me I'd only be wasting my money. I told him that in my Toyota lines I regularly changed between 5-7.5K miles while utilizing synthetic oil, and the 5300 miles that I just rolled over put me on track with similar interval spacing. He told me that it's vary rare that he sees any degradation in regular oil, when compared to synthetic, at that mileage range.
Any additional thoughts from the gang? Given the fact that I'd be paying $40 over what normally is a free oil change (first round) I found it interesting that the manager would try to talk me out of it.
I had my X's oil changed at just under 6K miles with 30% life even though there was no code yet, since i was going on a long road trip and didn't want to get stuck trying to find an unknown Acura dealer. The service advisor was hesitant but relented anyway. I guess you could say she was trying to talk me out of it too.
I will change to synthetic on the next change, but that's only by preference.
And please don't start another round of regular versus synthetic. My head already hurts from the regular versus premium fuel in another thread. |
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| sobrien1087 |
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Originally posted by dj-mdx2
And please don't start another round of regular versus synthetic. My head already hurts from the regular versus premium fuel in another thread.
Are you sure it's not the car's headrests that are causing the headaches? ;) |
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| dj-mdx2 |
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Originally posted by sobrien1087
Are you sure it's not the car's headrests that are causing the headaches? ;)
Unlike other, more physically fit members, I guess my posture is so bad my head typically does not contact the headrest during driving (and no I'm not Quasimodo). :) Incidentally, I wonder if that other member tried adjusting the lumbar support and seat incline to find a comfortable enough position. |
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| ROTORRAY |
...check BOBISTHEOILGUY.COM
EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about oil, and some other things. Great site. Can also get to it via BITOG.com |
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| tmls |
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Originally posted by SullyC5er
Oil is the least expensive part of maintaining the engine. I base my decision on the type of miles...frequent starts & around town vs Interstate miles. In all my cars, I go 3000 around town & 5000 Interstate. I use Royal Purple in my other cars & I will do the same in the MDX. Mobil 1 is more hype than substance.
I use the Royal Purple in my Viper, and I'll use it in my MDX when I get about 1000 miles on it (half way there!)
I agree it's important to frequently change a filter with synthetics. |
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| Figgen |
Just completed my first oil change @ 5,000 km (3,100 miles). That should be adequate for engine brake in. Changed it to Mobil 1 5W20 syn. Performed the service myself (out of convenience). I must say with a vertical oil filter exposed and the oil drain plug location the oil change was VERY painless.
IMHO the low temperature oil viscosity differences of syn oil (which ever brand you choose) in sub freezing temperatures are well worth the extra $$ for those living north of the 49th parallel or who may encounter cold starts.
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| LionSpeed |
| My report: Just performed a 1st oil change to my X. It was passed 5,000 milrd & ugly dirty. Now it has a new Honda blue filter & 4.5 QT of Mobil-1 5w-20 fully synthetic API. Following a OIL reset to 100% was done. Now it runs smoother than before. With the help of previous posts & a piece of aluminum foil, not a single oil drop touched my X. |
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| Fabvsix |
| Copy cat! Burp......:cool: |
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| LionSpeed |
burp back!...
Hey, is that the RDX? Oil cap is way back there... At least you don't need to open the piece of black plastic & tons of fasteners. |
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| Fabvsix |
| yEAH, bUt the Oil filter is WAY up behind the backside of the engine.......creeeeeepy being under there........ |
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| LionSpeed |
| 5W-30 for RDX but 5W-20 for MDX. Why? Shouldn't MDX uses 5W-30 as well? Especially this kind of hot & humid (marg.) weather? |
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| Dr. Ken |
quote:
Originally posted by razorbackura
my dealer has emailed me requesting that i bring my 07 mdx in for a 3750 mile oil change. i thought the suggested change from the company was to change when the computer indicated. what's up with this? is this just a ploy to make money or has there been a change in acura's oil change policy for the mdx? anyone else get this request from the dealer?
My dealer service dept - Acura of Seattle - told me to come in when the car said so, and it was not necessary to do so ahead of that. So, IMO your dealer was in it for extra money from you. Either that or he hadn't read the owners manual.
My first oil change was at 7000 miles and at 0% plus 27 miles. I waited until the indicator said 5% left and then made the appointment. When I finally got in, the display showed the mileage overage. I was pleasantly surprised that the first change was free. |
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| Mike_TX |
I finally changed my old oil-change habits (every 3,000 miles) when I got my first BMW. They have oil-life notification systems like our X's, and when I took it in "early", the Service Advisor told me he would change it if I insisted, but that the engineers had put a lot of thought and effort into the computer program that monitors it, and that I should trust it. So I did. And still do.
Think about it: The mfr. who has to warranty your engine says to wait for the MID to tell you it's time. Would they recommend a longer interval than is safe? That would mean they are running the risk of buying a lot of engines.
Motor oil, filters and - even more importantly - engine tolerances have improved so much in the past decade or two that 3,000-mile oil changes are just not necessary any more. No longer do we have combustion gases being routed back directly into the crankcase like in my old '56 Chevy, nor leaky loose rings that allow a lot of combustion products into the oil to contaminate it, nor engine warm-up/cool-down cycles that encourage crankcase condensation.
Our engine oil has also been beefed up considerably from the Old Days, with space-age additives and formulations.
All this means our engine oil has an easier life than it had in the '60's, '70's and 80's, so it just isn't necessary to change your oil like you did back then.
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| Fabvsix |
Mike-Tx
Do you feel the same about brake fluids/transmission fluids and the like? The reason I'm asking is my RL only has 19,000 miles and it just turned 3 years old. My dealership says I should change those fluids etc....but my RL forum friends say NON-SENSE! What do you think?:confused: :confused: |
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| scorpion114 |
Who see the engines, transmissions, differentials, torn apart, they all tell you to not, repeat, not, go by the new maintenance schedules set by the Manufacturer, because, since they are free, (for BMW) the manufacturer doesnt want to have to pay alot more, so they extended them but at the expense of all these parts breaking down from wear, long before their counterparts of the earlier days, who got more frequent changes did.
In answer to your question about changing the differentials and transmissions, I say yes, if you are planning on keeping the vehicle to 100k and past. Otherwise, those big parts are going to need help. Contrary to what everyone would have you believe, there is no "lifetime" fluid in any part of the car. You should also bear in mind that the brake fluid and the antifreeze also goes bad and needs to be changed periodically as well. Of course if you dont care about the vehicle that much and dont plan on having it for a long time, well, this is all a moot point. But I would never be the buyer of a used vehicle that had "extended" oil change, etc.. I am sure that the Acura/Honda lines have alot of things that just keep working forever, probably more so than other marques, but I still get worried about wear and tear inside those big ticket items..
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| Mike_TX |
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Originally posted by Fabvsix
Mike-Tx
Do you feel the same about brake fluids/transmission fluids and the like? The reason I'm asking is my RL only has 19,000 miles and it just turned 3 years old. My dealership says I should change those fluids etc....but my RL forum friends say NON-SENSE! What do you think?:confused: :confused:
Well, unfortunately, the brake fluid isn't computer monitored like the engine oil, so you have to use your judgement there. If the fluid looks a little murky, it means it has gotten contaminated with moisture, and if it has a burnt smell, it has obviously gotten too hot. In either case, I'd change it. But at only 19,000 miles, I doubt you have any issues there.
I don't think the RL's computers directly monitor trans fluid, but I kinda doubt it. The MID will tell you when the proper time for a fluid change comes around (based on mileage), and I'd wait for that unless you have problems with the tranny shifting properly.
I'm no expert, so use your own judgement. But if it were mine, I wouldn't even consider changing these fluids now. That's just my 2 cents.
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| Mike_TX |
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Originally posted by scorpion114
Who see the engines, transmissions, differentials, torn apart, they all tell you to not, repeat, not, go by the new maintenance schedules set by the Manufacturer, because, since they are free, (for BMW) the manufacturer doesnt want to have to pay alot more, so they extended them but at the expense of all these parts breaking down from wear, long before their counterparts of the earlier days, who got more frequent changes did.
In answer to your question about changing the differentials and transmissions, I say yes, if you are planning on keeping the vehicle to 100k and past. Otherwise, those big parts are going to need help. Contrary to what everyone would have you believe, there is no "lifetime" fluid in any part of the car. You should also bear in mind that the brake fluid and the antifreeze also goes bad and needs to be changed periodically as well. Of course if you dont care about the vehicle that much and dont plan on having it for a long time, well, this is all a moot point. But I would never be the buyer of a used vehicle that had "extended" oil change, etc.. I am sure that the Acura/Honda lines have alot of things that just keep working forever, probably more so than other marques, but I still get worried about wear and tear inside those big ticket items..
DanF
Scorpion, I am not questioning what you say, but if you think about it, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Yes, BMW pays for oil changes, etc., but I can't believe they'd risk an $8,000 engine to save $30 on an oil change ... it just doesn't make good business sense.
That's what the Bimmer service people told me, too ... the engineers have torture-tested their engines, transmissions, diff's, etc., and they know what their lubrication requirements are. It would just be plain stupid to purposely under-service their cars just to save a few bucks, since they'd spend far more in the long run replacing parts.
I don't doubt some people abuse their cars enough to "outsmart" the engine management computers, but they're in the minority, and even 3,000-mile oil changes wouldn't prevent those bozos from frying their engines.
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| scorpion114 |
| I think that the cost of the "normal maintenance" schedule gets to be pretty high for any manufacturer that promises free maintenance when you sell thousands of vehicles a year. And say for instance, BMW, sells more each year, not leveling out or selling less. Having been involved in the BMW CCA for 7 years now, I hear and see lots of cases where less maintenance drastically shortened vehicles lifetimes. Im not upset about it, its just the way it is today. I think that in my garage, if the tranny fluid looks dark brown and smells burnt, Im going to change it regardless of the mileage or schedule. I dont want to have to replace it or go through the hassle of warranty or lack of warranty, etc.. This same car co. wants you to change your brake fluid at least every 2 years - why - because it gets used alot and runs hot, etc., and eventually breaks down. Maybe if you dont use the vehicle as agressively, all these things last longer too. I would rather just say that if any of the fluids look drastically different than what they started out to be, then perhaps its would be a good idea to think about changing them. If their purpose is to lubricate and carry around contanimants, then I wonder how much more can they go before they are done ? I think that everyone has their own ideas and plans, and will do the best thing for their needs. This is a great forum full of super nice people with alot of experience and ideas.. I hope it never changes! :) DanF |
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| gmc74 |
quote:
Originally posted by scorpion114
Who see the engines, transmissions, differentials, torn apart, they all tell you to not, repeat, not, go by the new maintenance schedules set by the Manufacturer, because, since they are free, (for BMW) the manufacturer doesnt want to have to pay alot more, so they extended them but at the expense of all these parts breaking down from wear, long before their counterparts of the earlier days, who got more frequent changes did.
In answer to your question about changing the differentials and transmissions, I say yes, if you are planning on keeping the vehicle to 100k and past. Otherwise, those big parts are going to need help. Contrary to what everyone would have you believe, there is no "lifetime" fluid in any part of the car. You should also bear in mind that the brake fluid and the antifreeze also goes bad and needs to be changed periodically as well. Of course if you dont care about the vehicle that much and dont plan on having it for a long time, well, this is all a moot point. But I would never be the buyer of a used vehicle that had "extended" oil change, etc.. I am sure that the Acura/Honda lines have alot of things that just keep working forever, probably more so than other marques, but I still get worried about wear and tear inside those big ticket items..
DanF
The reason that BMW gives free maintenance is not so that they have happy customers, it is so when the car gets traded in 2-4 years later (as they usually do), it is in tip top shape and can be sold as a "certified pre-owned".
Don't think for a moment that BMW doesn't build that cost into their MSRP, they do. I am not sure how it works where you are from, but here, you can't touch a BMW under MSRP... maybe the station wagons, but that is about it. I looked at the 335 coupe, and they had 1 on the lot (which was for demos) and they had to order what you wanted, and the price was MSRP... take it or leave it. |
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| LionSpeed |
| I hate it when they call it "Certified Preowned". Preowned my A$$. It's a freakin USED CAR as far as I'm concern. No matter how much dressing, fix-up, maintenance you put into it, it is still a freakin USED CAR. |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by LionSpeed
I hate it when they call it "Certified Preowned". Preowned my A$$. It's a freakin USED CAR as far as I'm concern. No matter how much dressing, fix-up, maintenance you put into it, it is still a freakin USED CAR.
Yeah, no kidding... there is such a stigma around 'used' that they keep coming up with other names...
:lurk: I can't wait to see what they come up with after this gets old
Kind of like the new term they have used for the last 5 years or so.. OAC, mainly because they don't want to scare all the folks with bad credit away
Or, the commercials that say, "every credit application accepted", it doesn't say they will give you money, it just says they will let you request it...
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| rocketman |
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Originally posted by Fabvsix
Mike-Tx
Do you feel the same about brake fluids/transmission fluids and the like? The reason I'm asking is my RL only has 19,000 miles and it just turned 3 years old. My dealership says I should change those fluids etc....but my RL forum friends say NON-SENSE! What do you think?:confused: :confused:
In the MDX owner's handbook, it says to change the brake fluid every three years regardless of mileage. You may want to check yours.
Brake fluid accumulates moisture over time so it's another good reason to replace. |
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| Fabvsix |
Anyone see "What ever happened to Baby Jane?
One of my favorite lines she quotes:
Blanch, ya ain't ever selling this car! And ya ain't ever leaving it either...............I didn't bring ya breakfast.......cause you didn't eat you din din.........
I ain't selling the RL or interested. It will remain in the family.....:1: |
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| Fabvsix |
| Ok I will schedule an appointment to have those fluids changed.....:rolleyes: |
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| dacbiet |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Honda (and Acura) oil "monitoring" is only mileage-based. It doesn't perform real-time oil analysis of oil viscosity, color, and vehicle driving habits that BMW and M-B oil monitoring systems do.
Furthermore, one reason modern BMW's and M-B are factory permitted to drive somewhat longer distances between oil changes is due to the fact their oil capacities, at 8 to 9 quarts, is significantly larger than Honda/Acura V-6 engines at around 5 quarts. Nine quarts of oil should retain viscosity and other lubricating properties longer than 5 quarts. |
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| mdxx3 |
| ^ also comes with synthetic oil |
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| scorpion114 |
Thats a gorgeous background there, and dont tell me its in S.F. :):):)
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by scorpion114
Thats a gorgeous background there, and dont tell me its in S.F. :):):)
DanF
FAB has a green screen at home, he keeps inserting himself into pictures
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| Fabvsix |
| Wrong.....that was when we were visiting my sister in Longmont Colorado. We were headed up to Estate Park.......:1: |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by Fabvsix
Wrong.....that was when we were visiting my sister in Longmont Colorado. We were headed up to Estate Park.......:1:
Sure, you do look like you are standing in front of a screen :) |
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| LionSpeed |
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Sure, you do look like you are standing in front of a screen :)
Speaking about screen, I have a green chroma background for studio that can literally put you in any background of your choice. :) |
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| Fabvsix |
| No these are real pictures when we were headed up to Estate Park in Colorado......We were about at the top (13,000 elevation). I have a cabin in Green Moutain Falls North of Colorado Springs as well... Check yourself before you wreck yourself......I know nothing about screens or putting a picture in a picture....... |
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| Fabvsix |
| Headed up the narrow road....does it look like I put this in the picture? Give me a break guys..... |
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| Fabvsix |
| believe me now? My 77 year old father in the middle. The high altitude didn't even phase him......:1: |
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| Fabvsix |
| shot inside my sister's 14,000 square foot pad on 40 acres in Longmont Colorado..... |
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| Fabvsix |
| Here back yard facing the Rocky Mountain Divide......still think I'm full of screen bS? I think NOT...... |
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| Fabvsix |
| Headed up the narrow road....does it look like I put this in the picture? Give me a break guys..... |
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| Fabvsix |
gmc:
Perhaps since you have mostly dried out sceens and cactus' folks there do alot of "screen picture adding" as I knew nothing about this until you mentioned it here........;) |
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| LionSpeed |
| Yeah, you & your big mouth gmc74. |
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| gmc74 |
Settle down... :p
I have proof!
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| Fabvsix |
| all of my pictures are genuine taken with my sony camera.....I have NO clue about those programs you mentioned. Only one I've read mentioned is photoshop but have NO clue how to use it.....HONESTLY! What proof are you referring to? I'd be very curious because these are ALL genuine pictures...... |
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| LionSpeed |
I honestly think gmc was kidding about the green screen. I think he knows you don't use photoshop. There isn't a need for you to justify.
Fab's cooking = A+??
Fab's marg. = A+??
Fab's photoshop = F (this one is w/o question mark) |
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| gmc74 |
Yeah, the proof is over on the "Where in the world is FABV6" thread
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| Fabvsix |
And a few shot of my FAV Tequila's.........NO BS with me!
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| Fabvsix |
| Some more fav's...... |
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| Fabvsix |
| Old Mexico school of what to drink with Tequila........Margarita????? Get the rope.................................:1: :1: :1: |
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| Fabvsix |
| Let's not leave Don Julio out.......Don't confuse another Don with Don Fulano which makes superb tequila! |
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| LionSpeed |
| boy, I got drunk by just looking at your collections. |
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| Mike_TX |
quote:
Originally posted by dacbiet
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Honda (and Acura) oil "monitoring" is only mileage-based. It doesn't perform real-time oil analysis of oil viscosity, color, and vehicle driving habits that BMW and M-B oil monitoring systems do.
Furthermore, one reason modern BMW's and M-B are factory permitted to drive somewhat longer distances between oil changes is due to the fact their oil capacities, at 8 to 9 quarts, is significantly larger than Honda/Acura V-6 engines at around 5 quarts. Nine quarts of oil should retain viscosity and other lubricating properties longer than 5 quarts.
It does appear Acura's oil "monitoring" is based on more than just mileage ... otherwise, we'd all come due for oil changes at the same time.
As I understand it, the Acura ECM has a module that keeps track of the number of cold and hot starts, ambient temperatures, miles driven between starts, and rpm data. It takes those things (and maybe a couple more) and factors them together to determine the oil change interval.
I drove my RL on a long trip right after getting it, for example, and it didn't indicate the first oil change was needed until about 8,500 miles. My buddy's, OTOH, was driven in stop-and-go conditions in summer heat, and his popped the first oil change at about 5,000.
I believe the MDX has the same oil change algorithm.
(Oh, and I agree on the oil capacity thing. My Beemers didn't tell me they needed oil changes until 11,500 - 15,000 miles! Of course, part of that was synthetic oil, too.)
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| Mike_TX |
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Originally posted by LionSpeed
boy, I got drunk by just looking at your collections.
I'm getting dizzy just watching you guys trying to one-up each other! :rolleyes:
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| scorpion114 |
| Be in your backyard - Fort Worth !! :) DanF |
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