| chasieboy |
| I just purchased 6000k HID bulb ,reason being its the yellowish that 4300k OEM bulbs produced..I will post some pictures once they're intalled to see the difference.. |
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| Fabvsix |
| Please provide brand, price, availability, whom sells it etc....I'm very interested in the pictures of comparison.....:1: |
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| skinny |
| Aslo do you know if these bulbs are the same as the s2k? |
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| chasieboy |
I just installed my 6000k Mcculloch D2S HID bulb,it took me 15 minutes to install both..I got the bulbs from Ebay for 99 bucks shipped..I know that Mcculloch brand is not really the best brand out there besides Philips,Osram,GE,etc..But I tried all of those brands and I really like the light output of Mcculloch out of those brand names..I also installed the HID kit in my 2006 Civic and love it...Sorry guys I didnt take any comparison shots but I will post some pictures soon..Im considering getting an H11 HID kit for the Fog..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...94807363&rd=1,1 |
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| bronxblaza117 |
| im sure it looks soooo nice with 6000k hids. as for the foglights i'd get 4000k which is yellow and has the most light output. that would be sweeeeeet |
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| dj-mdx2 |
| Nice and icy blue. I won't touch the electronics on mine while it's still in warranty. The 01 is still my hobby car. |
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| Huffa |
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Originally posted by chasieboy
I just purchased 6000k HID bulb ,reason being its the yellowish that 4300k OEM bulbs produced..I will post some pictures once they're intalled to see the difference..
OEM yellowish ? :rolleyes:
Man, they sure look brillant white to me !
So are they even more intense then the stock ones and if so, I just can't go along with replacing the bulbs because
as a driver, SEEING the road, I love the OEM, as a driver coming TOWARDS them, I think they are downright dangourous being that they blind the heck out me or if they are blasting me in my rear view mirror.
I'm sure 1000's out there feel the same way too. |
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| theseans |
yeah...4300k is yellow? not on m X.
4300 is super white in most peoples opinion (and on a spectrum chart), and 6000 is rice-burner blue. it's also now way less bright than your original OEM 4300k's.
just not sure why you would drop brightness, for a little more blue in the bulb.. the original bulbs should have had tons....you could have done a color mod for free if you wanted to get a little more blue out of them. |
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| bronxblaza117 |
| can you take some night shots? and maybe of light shining on a wall in the night with the car like 25 feet away? thats where u can see the difference in buld temperature(kelvin). i have a 6000k hid kit on my scion tc and love it. |
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| theseans |
hey, that said, they look good, but still confused about how 4300k produces yellow.
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Originally posted by theseans
yeah...4300k is yellow? not on m X.
4300 is super white in most peoples opinion (and on a spectrum chart), and 6000 is rice-burner blue. it's also now way less bright than your original OEM 4300k's.
just not sure why you would drop brightness, for a little more blue in the bulb.. the original bulbs should have had tons....you could have done a color mod for free if you wanted to get a little more blue out of them.
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| bronxblaza117 |
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Originally posted by theseans
yeah...4300k is yellow? not on m X.
4300 is super white in most peoples opinion (and on a spectrum chart), and 6000 is rice-burner blue. it's also now way less bright than your original OEM 4300k's.
just not sure why you would drop brightness, for a little more blue in the bulb.. the original bulbs should have had tons....you could have done a color mod for free if you wanted to get a little more blue out of them.
u are right a little bit. 4300k will appear to look yellow when looking at directly and have a yellowish glow but on surfaces will be pure white actually, which is perfect for lighting purposes. however 6000k will have a light blueish look to it but shine on surfaces white, just not as bright at 4300k hid's would.
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| bronxblaza117 |
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Originally posted by Huffa
OEM yellowish ? :rolleyes:
Man, they sure look brillant white to me !
So are they even more intense then the stock ones and if so, I just can't go along with replacing the bulbs because
as a driver, SEEING the road, I love the OEM, as a driver coming TOWARDS them, I think they are downright dangourous being that they blind the heck out me or if they are blasting me in my rear view mirror.
I'm sure 1000's out there feel the same way too.
those are blinding most likely because the headlights are not made for hid's. as u see on the mdx the hid's are in projectors which help create the nice cutoff everyone loves about hid's. glare comes from people putting hid bulbs in reflector headlights |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by theseans
4300 is super white in most peoples opinion (and on a spectrum chart), and 6000 is rice-burner blue. it's also now way less bright than your original OEM 4300k's.
6000K can also be much more fatiguing to your eyes on longer trips. |
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| theseans |
Not to be "a little bit" obstinate, but there's no yellow in my 4300k's. Just bright white with a blue cutoff. Now, they are aftermarket, which maybe tend to lean closer to the 5000k spectrum...it's not an exact science.
Does anyone see yellow coming off an Acura TSX, or BMW? They are 4300k.
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Originally posted by bronxblaza117
u are right a little bit. 4300k will appear to look yellow when looking at directly and have a yellowish glow but on surfaces will be pure white actually, which is perfect for lighting purposes. however 6000k will have a light blueish look to it but shine on surfaces white, just not as bright at 4300k hid's would.
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| chasieboy |
quote:
Originally posted by Huffa
OEM yellowish ? :rolleyes:
Man, they sure look brillant white to me !
So are they even more intense then the stock ones and if so, I just can't go along with replacing the bulbs because
as a driver, SEEING the road, I love the OEM, as a driver coming TOWARDS them, I think they are downright dangourous being that they blind the heck out me or if they are blasting me in my rear view mirror.
I'm sure 1000's out there feel the same way too.
Its a matter of everyones preferences,I have been using an HID since 5 yrs and as long as you modify them (projectors,beam pattern,cut-off) the right way theres no way youre blinding the oncoming drivers..I also used this bulb w/ my previous 2005 TL and IMHO its better than the OEM 4300k,more reflective on the road,sign,etc..Well the picture produce more BLUE but in reality its just pure white/a litlte bit purple and no yellow...Color temp (6000k) doesnt blind people its the GLARE that causes that problem especially if youre putting an either OEM or aftermarket HID kit and the headlight is not design for HID then it produces a lot of GLARE.. |
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| chasieboy |
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Originally posted by bronxblaza117
those are blinding most likely because the headlights are not made for hid's. as u see on the mdx the hid's are in projectors which help create the nice cutoff everyone loves about hid's. glare comes from people putting hid bulbs in reflector headlights
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| Huffa |
Baloney that these new type of lights don't blind people, you guys have a right to your opinion of course but I don't agree with you at all.
..........and it's not people installing other bulbs , it's stock OEM headlight bulbs I'm sure.
Yea sure, there may be one now and then that have been switched but for the most part they are factory. |
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| theseans |
I have both HID's and Halogens, and find the HID's quite easy on the eyes thanks to the lens cut-off. It's the reflective lenses on my Prelude that blind me. They have for close to a decade.
Xenon's do tend to p.o. the seniors though. The same one's that blind me with their Buick's high beams in the rain because they can't see past the glare of their cateracts. Annoying behaviour can work both ways. -)
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Originally posted by Huffa
Baloney that these new type of lights don't blind people, you guys have a right to your opinion of course but I don't agree with you at all.
..........and it's not people installing other bulbs , it's stock OEM headlight bulbs I'm sure.
Yea sure, there may be one now and then that have been switched but for the most part they are factory.
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| Norb |
| For those that say 4300K is white, well yea, it will seem white beause you have nothing to compare it too. The human eye can adjust to anything. Infact if you have halogen lights, they'll seem just as white if you have nothing to compare it too. Those who decide to go with 6000k, then after a while they'll seem just as white as the 4300K. I don't think there is anything wrong with going with 6000K. Compared to 8K, 10K, and even 12K, its quite conservative. |
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| SilveradoMDX |
| Here's a 5K pic. |
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| theseans |
Well...yea...it will seem white cause actually my 4300k's ARE white. In fact, I do have something to compare them too...my halogen fogs, which are directly beneath the HID's , and are most certainly yellow. NOT white. With or withought something to compare them too.
I do agree with one thing...6000's look great too. Just less bright.
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Originally posted by Norb
For those that say 4300K is white, well yea, it will seem white beause you have nothing to compare it too. The human eye can adjust to anything. Infact if you have halogen lights, they'll seem just as white if you have nothing to compare it too. Those who decide to go with 6000k, then after a while they'll seem just as white as the 4300K. I don't think there is anything wrong with going with 6000K. Compared to 8K, 10K, and even 12K, its quite conservative.
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| Piaa 2001 |
I just purchased PIAA D2S 6000k for my 2007 MDX on Ebay.
The owners manual does not tell you how to replace the HID bulbs in your vehicle. Is this something that is simple that I can do??
Please help:confused:
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| Norb |
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Well...yea...it will seem white cause actually my 4300k's ARE white. In fact, I do have something to compare them too...my halogen fogs, which are directly beneath the HID's , and are most certainly yellow. NOT white. With or withought something to compare them too.
And conversely if you put 6000k next to your 4300K, they'll seem yellowish compared the tohe 6000K. See my point? |
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| theseans |
lol. No, to be honest. 6000k's will look bluer, and mine will still look bright white with a bright blue cut-off. The same way every other 4300k kit looks to me. Have you ever looked at a BMW, and said, nice yellowish Xenon's? They look white with purple cut-off's...and they're 4300k. -)
To anyone...please confirm I'm not color-blind here?
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Originally posted by Norb
And conversely if you put 6000k next to your 4300K, they'll seem yellowish compared the tohe 6000K. See my point?
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| theseans |
Norb in your opinion, would 8000k's look yellower than 10000k's? -)
All kidding aside though, I think I would get Silverado's 5000k's if I had it to do again. they seem to have the right balance. |
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| chasieboy |
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Originally posted by theseans
Norb in your opinion, would 8000k's look yellower than 10000k's? -)
All kidding aside though, I think I would get Silverado's 5000k's if I had it to do again. they seem to have the right balance.
Over 6000k temp is an overkill..and less bright white light |
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| chasieboy |
quote:
Originally posted by Piaa 2001
I just purchased PIAA D2S 6000k for my 2007 MDX on Ebay.
The owners manual does not tell you how to replace the HID bulbs in your vehicle. Is this something that is simple that I can do??
Please help:confused:
Mike
tried to IM you but mailbox is full
The owner manual doesnt tell you that procedure,since Ive been doing this mod with all my cars Its kinda easy for me to do this kind of things..Whta i did was on the (left side) turned the cover clockwise facing the front of the vehicle and take it off,vise versa on the other side,using mirror to see whats inside the headlamp,turn the ignitor (not sure clockwise/or counter..coudlnt remember) untill it came off,theres a couple of locking clips to hold the bulb you have to push those 2 clips to get them loose and unhocked to get the bulb off..Goodluck! |
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| theseans |
I think a couple of us are thinking anything over 4300/5000k is overkill.
Isn't it a "downgrade to go from top-output, top-quality OEM 4300k's (that are already white with a blue cut-off) to what are probably lower-quality aftermarket 6000k's putting out less light output.
Now if you had put in 6000k's to replace halogens', then I'd think you made a brilliant decision, cause you get that cool "ricer" blue look with a huge increase in output. You however, got rid of superior headlights to have blue bulbs.
Now that said, I'm only going from what I know about my 4300k's, and my brother's M5. Is there something I don't know about 2007 MDX's? Are their low-beams really yellow? I question this.
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Originally posted by chasieboy
Over 6000k temp is an overkill..and less bright white light
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| chasieboy |
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Originally posted by theseans
I think a couple of us are thinking anything over 4300/5000k is overkill.
Isn't it a "downgrade to go from top-output, top-quality OEM 4300k's (that are already white with a blue cut-off) to what are probably lower-quality aftermarket 6000k's putting out less light output.
Now if you had put in 6000k's to replace halogens', then I'd think you made a brilliant decision, cause you get that cool "ricer" blue look with a huge increase in output. You however, got rid of superior headlights to have blue bulbs.
Now that said, I'm only going from what I know about my 4300k's, and my brother's M5. Is there something I don't know about 2007 MDX's? Are their low-beams really yellow? I question this.
Im aware that the 4300k is an OEM bulb which produce very white output,but base on my experience I compared my 4300k to 6000k bulb and for ME I liked the output on 6k bulb..Dont get me wrong that the 4300k is the best white light output but this is what I preferred..
I also have an HID w/ my 2005 TL and replaced with 6k bulb because I like the output better than the stock..These are just based on my experience whether you hate it or like it,its my car..Peace!
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| theseans |
Don't worry Chasie, I'm not hating at all...I like your pics. I myself fought between 4300, and 6000 for days before I bought my kit, but I was going from halogen projectors. Anything was an improvement for me. If you realize that you are making a bit of a sacrifice on output to get the blue color you want, that's cool as school. I just question the word "upgrade". In your eyes it is, so hey, I'll just shut my yap. Your car does look very cool.
My only argument is the "yellow" thing. Again, I haven't consciously cemented what an '07's HID's look like, but both you and Norb are calling 4300's yellow. I've never seen a 4300k that looked anything but white, either on my car, or any OEM kit on the road, so it surprised me. They're definitely less blue, but certainly not close to yellow.
If I'm wrong, I'm out the $100 bucks I just spent to change the color/output of my headlamps, and another $100 to get my eyes checked, cause mine look more blue than yellow -)
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Originally posted by chasieboy
Im aware that the 4300k is an OEM bulb which produce very white output,but base on my experience I compared my 4300k to 6000k bulb and for ME I liked the output on 6k bulb..Dont get me wrong that the 4300k is the best white light output but this is what I preferred..
I also have an HID w/ my 2005 TL and replaced with 6k bulb because I like the output better than the stock..These are just based on my experience whether you hate it or like it,its my car..Peace!
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