| JSingh80 |
| I've been noticing my new MDX pulls to the right. I thought maybe it was just me being over sensitive, but my wife drove and she also said that it pulls to the right. Anybody else experience anything like that with their new X? Mine only has 600 miles on it. |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by JSingh80
I've been noticing my new MDX pulls to the right. I thought maybe it was just me being over sensitive, but my wife drove and she also said that it pulls to the right. Anybody else experience anything like that with their new X? Mine only has 600 miles on it.
The search button is your friend.:D
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...ght=pulls+right |
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| lynphie2 |
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Originally posted by JSingh80
thanks
wow seems to be a much wide spread problem then i thought
Here is my experience and resolution of the right-tire pull issue:crying: Hope you will have it fixed soon. I know how frustrated it must have been.:3:
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...15&pagenumber=1 |
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| MDXTachy |
| My x is one week old, and I notice the pulling to the right as well. like some of you I thought it was just me, or the pitch in the road. In fact, when I talked to my dealer about it, they suggest that it could be the pitch in the road. Since reading that so many of you are having the same problem, I'm going to have this looked into further. Do anyone think the SHawd could be contributing to this issue? |
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| mjmattson |
I am not a drive expert or expert on Acuras, but it strikes me as odd that ALL the complaints are for pulling to the right. None to the left...all to the right. My vehicle is ALIGNED and still pulls.
I wish I could just get 4 brand new tires on my car to see if the problem goes away...If I could afford that I might just do that, but cant'. The dealership says, well we aligned it and we will just have to contact Acura and see what they say....
Crickets chirping...
This is very annoying. I just cannot believe that ALL these people have bad tires, the odds are just against that.
When I accelerate, my car will PULL off the road very quickly. Try it...get on a straight stretch and compare no acceleration when you let the wheel go and acceleration when you let the wheel go.
Are the wheels unevenly torquing or something? Software problem in the AWD unit? |
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| lynphie2 |
For those of you who had read my past posts regarding the right-pull problem might already knew my frustrating experience.
I would just like to point out, it's not alignment issue, because 2 alignments didn't solve the problem. It's not a tire-pull issue, because I had the 'suspect' tire replaced under warranty, for some reason, that made the pull even worse. My dealer cross-rotate the front tires, and it drives PERFECTLY STRAIGHT. It remains a mystery to me on exactly what is the issue here. But according to SuperTech here on the forum, there's no safety or mechanical concern. It might be worth a try to cross-rotate the two front tires to see what will happened. If it works, never cross-rotate these 2 tires AGAIN. Just a thought! good luck.:) |
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| mjmattson |
I'm glad your vehicle drives straight, but you should be able to cross rotate tires without serious pull issues.
Maybe bad rims?
I don't know, but this is very annoying and apparently not uncommon. Acura needs to get to the bottom of it and FIX it. |
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| lynphie2 |
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Originally posted by mjmattson
I'm glad your vehicle drives straight, but you should be able to cross rotate tires without serious pull issues.
Maybe bad rims?
I don't know, but this is very annoying and apparently not uncommon. Acura needs to get to the bottom of it and FIX it.
You are right, it's not a 'perfect' fix but a 'quick' one according to SuperTech. I just don't want to waste any more gas to drive back and forth to the dealership for the hundredth time(feels like it) for the same problem. It's hard for me to understand if it's defective tire or rims that's the issue, why are all the X are pulling to the right? If it's the SH-AWD that's casusing the pull, why a cross-rotation seems to 'hide' the pull?:confused: It's a great mystery that Acura needs to solve and be quick about it.:( |
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| mjmattson |
| I think it's the SH-AWD...I'm sure at some point there will be a TSB that will be silently fixed or a recall to update something in the drive system. |
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| bronxblaza117 |
honda's have this problem to. my old 1999 CRV did not have it but on a CRV forum everyone complained about it, called PTTR(pull-to-the-right)t. 1st gen and 2gen where both affected. seemed to come from CRV's made in America because no Japanese made CRVs had the problem. a link for a solution to the 2nd gen CRV with pttr
Click Here |
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| JAC |
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Originally posted by mjmattson
I'm glad your vehicle drives straight, but you should be able to cross rotate tires without serious pull issues.
Maybe bad rims?
I don't know, but this is very annoying and apparently not uncommon. Acura needs to get to the bottom of it and FIX it.
I had the same problem with my X. Went through the whole exercise of doing the alignment, rotating tires and complaining to Acura. End result? Nada. The best answer I got from the Acura Case Manager was, "Well, to be honest, I wouldn't let my hands of the steering wheel while I am driving. I would be constantly steering and adjusting to keep my car going straight!"
The service manager at the dealership, on the other hand, maintains that, at highway speed, as long as the car does not completely cross lanes (center to center) in 8 seconds, it's "within spec."
It was almost comical! |
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| mjmattson |
Mine certainly crosses in under 8 seconds. If I am accelerating it's about 3.
Acura's response to you is just a cop out...no doubt about it. They need to weed out the issue and fix it and not give us pat answers. Heck, a Kia or Ford escort can be aligned properly. You would think an ~$45k vehicle should be able to be. |
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| JSingh80 |
| so has anybody had this problem totally sorted out? |
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| remy |
Just wanted to chime in and say my MDX with 6K miles on it had a serious right pull and the dealer took it and and did a realignment under warranty.
Seems like a common problem on theses cars. Can we get someone from acura to check on these forums and deal with these issues? |
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| mjmattson |
| and the problem is still there. Alignments to not appear to be the problem. |
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| remy |
^----- can you explain this further?
Was the car out of alignment and then the dealer realigned it twice? or is the car correctly aligned but still pulls to the right? |
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| mjmattson |
and aligned...still pulled...I took it back and they found another tire out of alignment (supposedly) and aligned it...still pulls.
I think they are just grasping at straws. |
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| JSingh80 |
| if there are these many complaints in such a small pool of owners Acura surely knows about this problem. |
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| JLee |
this thread is very helpful, i just bought an mdx and noticed the pull on the way home from the dealership. i called my dealer and they said they hadn't heard of it before.
its crazy..that this many people have this problem. should we start a list and send it to Acura ?
Jeff |
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| mjmattson |
It seems my dealer just calls techline and finds out a lot of things. Too many people are reporting this issue...
My dealer just called me today and said they are going to schedule me to come in and start swapping tires (not just cross rotate) to see if I have a bad one. He said that one type of tire problem is not helped by cross rotating so it may be what I am experiencing. Acura called them and told them that some of the Michelin tires on the 07's have problems so that is what we do next.
Personally I don't think it will help, but I'll let them try. :confused:
I'll update everyone on how this goes. |
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| brucehallberg |
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Originally posted by JLee
this thread is very helpful, i just bought an mdx and noticed the pull on the way home from the dealership. i called my dealer and they said they hadn't heard of it before.
its crazy..that this many people have this problem. should we start a list and send it to Acura ?
Jeff
It takes a while. I got a very early 2004 TL and it had a problem where the memory for driver settings would just get amnesia all of a sudden. Sporadic problem, couldn't be reproduced on command. The two dealers I talked to hadn't heard of the problem yet, even while I was reading about others with the issue on the boards. Within a few months Acura had a fix (updated module), it got replaced under warranty, and that was that. |
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| tsc69 |
| FYI... I had the same problem with my MDX basic with Bridgestones. I had one alignment and two steering wheel adjustments and it seems better so far. |
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| mjmattson |
| If that is the case, I'm back to my old standby that this is an issue with the SH-AWD. Maybe the torque to all the wheels is not equivalent in normal cruising? |
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| JLee |
Well thats a good thing that they are moving straight to swapping it out with new tires and not having you go through an alignment and all of that.
jeff
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Originally posted by mjmattson
It seems my dealer just calls techline and finds out a lot of things. Too many people are reporting this issue...
My dealer just called me today and said they are going to schedule me to come in and start swapping tires (not just cross rotate) to see if I have a bad one. He said that one type of tire problem is not helped by cross rotating so it may be what I am experiencing. Acura called them and told them that some of the Michelin tires on the 07's have problems so that is what we do next.
Personally I don't think it will help, but I'll let them try. :confused:
I'll update everyone on how this goes.
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| JLee |
I think I read this somewhere already but is the pulling right problem limited to the sport models only ?
i drove two standard mdxs today from the dealer and no issue..
Jeff |
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| JSingh80 |
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Originally posted by mjmattson
If that is the case, I'm back to my old standby that this is an issue with the SH-AWD. Maybe the torque to all the wheels is not equivalent in normal cruising?
i'm leaning more and more towards you with this being a SH-AWD problem rather then alignment or tires issue
does anybody know if the 07 RL also has this problem...since that also comes with SH-AWD |
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| mjmattson |
| I think Acura needs to fix this now. Hopefully it is a simple software update due to incorrect computer control. |
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| JLee |
telling i drove two mdxs at the dealer, both non-sport and no pull issues..
this is total BS :3:
jeff |
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| mjmattson |
| What model do you have...pulling too? |
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| JLee |
| i have a Sport w/tech.. |
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| acuramdx300 |
| my mdx drives PERFECTLY STRAIGHT, and didnt need any allignment or anything else like that. |
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| mjmattson |
| I just wish mine did...just no excuse for this much trouble to align this vehicle. |
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| acuramdx300 |
| We need to get this thing sorted out now! Mine has no problem, but if all of yours' do, there is a problem. We should send a list to Acura. |
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| JSingh80 |
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Originally posted by acuramdx300
We need to get this thing sorted out now! Mine has no problem, but if all of yours' do, there is a problem. We should send a list to Acura.
Yeah. Can we get a list of owners, where they bought the vehicle and maybe last 4-5 digits of the VIN # and send it to acura just to get things rolling. I still have to contact my dealer. Just been hella busy :( |
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| acuramdx300 |
| The good thing is that we know its not sh-awd, because mine would be pulling too, but i'm pretty sure it could be a tire problem. |
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| mjmattson |
| They have had radio issues with radios that require firmware updates, etc. in some VIN ranges. Maybe they "tweaked" the software for the SH-AWD and resulted in inconsistent torque on some wheels? |
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| Hot honda |
I have heard the issue is with the tires being out of specification and nothing to do with alignment - the remedy is to be balanced on a special balancing machine......Hunter makes one and it locates and eliminates tire related pull problems:
http://www.hunter.com/pub/product/b...4159T/index.htm
It is my understanding that the optional 19" wheel/tire
combo is the most suseptible. The Porsche Cayenne
had the same problems big time and many dealers were
unable to solve the problem with normal tire balancing machines...The Porsche's were equipped with Michelins...... |
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| JSingh80 |
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Originally posted by JAC
The service manager at the dealership, on the other hand, maintains that, at highway speed, as long as the car does not completely cross lanes (center to center) in 8 seconds, it's "within spec."
It was almost comical!
took mine in this weekend and thats what she told me....total bs...its like they're accepting that the alignment is out of whack, but since its over 8-10 seconds we won't fix it...such BS |
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| MDXRDX |
any updates?? Our new 2008 pulls a little too...
I don't think it is the shawd because my RDX is just fine.
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| Heat00 |
it should drvie straight, so long you are on even pavement ie not slanted as most roads are for drainage.
My alignment was off as soon as I took delivery. they fixed it a/s/a/p and it is fine now. |
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| techm8n |
| My 07' Sport/Ent also has the pulling to the right issue & off center steering wheel when I drove it off the dealer (9 miles on odometer). Brought it to the dealer last Saturday for a re-alignment and still had the same issue. I brought it back to the dealer again today. |
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| craniotes |
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Originally posted by arem
I have 2007 sports model, and I have exactly the same problem but it pulls to the left especially when I’m accelerating. I can cross 3 lane highway in under 10 sec, or be off the road if traveling in the left lane in under 3 sec. Also if in the left lane and the road is graded to the left I have to push on the steering wheel to the right and keep it at a small angel to get the car going straight. Been at the dealer 4 times now first two they told me it was me or the road. I ended up opening a case with Acura and going to a different dealer. At the new dealer they told me the problem was with the left strut and it was replaced. Problem did not go away and now I have small vibration it the steering wheel if going 70+, the car is going back to them next week. After talking to the customer service managers from Acura she is NOW stating that it is normal for MDX’s to pull to ether side when accelerating. I asked her if that is disclosed somewhere on the sale sticker when you buy the car, her reply was “did I test drive it when I got it?” Basically they admit that they have this problem but are not welling to fix it.
At this point I contacted a law firm that deals with lemon law in our state, and they will proceed with the case.
The behavior your MDX exhibits on a graded road is consistent with pretty much every other car out there. If the surface you're driving on is canted at an angle, you'll have to counter-steer a bit in the opposite direction to continue traveling in a straight line. As for your issues when accelerating, since the MDX ordinarily has a front-wheel-drive bias, likely what you're experiencing is mild torque-steer before the SH-AWD shifts the power to the rear. This phenomenon has been noted by car magazines testing the MDX, and is par for the course for front-wheel-biased AWD cars. Again, nothing to worry about.
Good luck with lemoning your MDX, but I have a feeling it's going to be a tough sell.
Regards,
Adam
PS - Also, have your wheels balanced. When the dealer rotated my tires I had the same problem with steering wheel vibration at highway speeds until I brought it back and had them balance the wheels. Problem solved. |
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