| jamzbond |
Hello,
From reading the various forums I have come to the conclusion that the windows can be opened but not closed remotely. In order to close them you have to insert the key in the door. I read about a device from ZP Technologies which may be able to roll up the windows remotely. It's called the window roll-up module. Here's the link http://www.kptechnologies.com/
Here is an e-mail I sent them accompanied by there response.
Hello,
I recently purchased a 2007 Acura MDX and I was informed about your product. I am interested to know the following:
1. Is it compatible with this model vehicle
2. Does it work remotely with the vehicle being off. I read on a forum that the engine had to be idling for this device to work.
3. Does it also work with my existing remote or will I need a separate remote.
Please clarify these 3 querries for me. Looking for you speedy response. Thanking you in advance.
Jamz
Dear Jamz,
The KPtechnologies module has been tested and verified on several Honda vehicles, including the Accord, Ridgeline, TSX and TL. However, to my knowledge, it has not been installed on an MDX as of yet.
The module is designed to work with the engine off, and actually won’t work if the ignition is on (a built in safety of the module).
The module is designed to work exclusively with the OEM remote. If an aftermarket alarm is installed there is a good chance the module will not work with the aftermarket remote.
The KPtechnologies module works by making the OEM BCM ‘think’ that the key is being inserted in the key cylinder, turned to ‘lock’, let go, and then turned and held in the ‘lock’ position. If you can raise the windows of the vehicle this way then the module should work.
Thank you,
Kevin Pierson
Director of Engineering
www.KPtechnologies.com
www.KPtechnologies.com/forums
I figured it would be convenient to have if the vehicle is parked in the sun and you wanted to leave the windows slightly down and then close them later without having to actually go to the vehicle.
If you have tried anything similar or if you are considering it , I would appreciate your comments.
Jamz |
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| grandzu |
Yeah, I am surprised that they have a feature to open the windows, sunroof, with the key remote but not close them.
I personally would find more use in closing all the windows and sunroof remotely than opening them. |
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| craniotes |
I'm forced to agree with you guys on this one -- Acura dropped the ball here. My 10 year old E420 does the whole auto-down/auto-up thing from the (one button!) remote, as does my sister's 2002 VW Jetta Turbo. And yes, I find that auto-up is a lot more useful than auto-down.
Regards,
Adam |
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| shootist |
This is a product liability issue. The windows can be rolled up by using the key in the door lock, but not remotely. Acura is probably concerned that a window raised remotely could trap and injure a child.
Mercedes obviously doesn't worry abou that. |
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| craniotes |
I'm the first to admit that Mercedes is far from being the warmest and fuzziest of automakers, but the windows do feature pinch-protection (i.e. they roll back down if they meet with resistance). Acura uses this same technology on the power liftgate, so why not the windows? In fact I'm certain they already do, given that the fronts are one-touch express up. So why, Acura, why no auto-up?
Regards,
Adam |
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| dj-mdx2 |
| I don't know about y'all but cranking your own window builds character. :2: To heck with all this power stuff. What's next - HandsFree steering? |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by dj-mdx2
What's next - HandsFree steering?
Or hands free navigation??:D |
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| shootist |
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Originally posted by phins2rt
Or hands free navigation??:D
You didn't get that option?
Ever hear about the one (I am not making this up) where a person set the cruise control on her new motor home, and walked to the galley to make a sandwich? Motor home was destroyed, of course. |
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| grandzu |
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Originally posted by shootist
Ever hear about the one (I am not making this up) where a person set the cruise control on her new motor home, and walked to the galley to make a sandwich?
This is an urban myth, as are the Stella awards and the law firm that created the awards, as written in the email that started this whole myth.
The firm is also not as well known as the firm of Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe.
But back to the windows!
I wonder if its just a matter of programming to get this done, like a firmware update. |
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| mjkasper |
| Has anyone installed this KP Technologies modules in a 07/08 MDX? Does it work as advertised? Do you have install instructions or pictures of the install you can post? I'm most interested in how to remove the door panel and which wires to tap into. |
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| kssod |
| this is certainly just a software issue. My 02 X-Type came with the ability to close all windows with the key, and then later a tech added the ability to do it with a remote. IMO I'd like to close all windows with a remote more than open them. |
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| KPierson |
| Anyone try this yet or have any feedback? |
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| slash007 |
| I ordered the window module a couple of days ago and will install it and update once I do. |
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| KPierson |
quote:
Originally posted by slash007
I ordered the window module a couple of days ago and will install it and update once I do.
If you need any help or have any questions let me know! |
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| slash007 |
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Originally posted by KPierson
If you need any help or have any questions let me know!
Will do. Does it usually take a while for you guys to ship? I paid for it on Sun. night and it has yet to ship. Thanks. |
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| 07aspenx |
| So you need a module for each window? |
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| KPierson |
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Originally posted by slash007
Will do. Does it usually take a while for you guys to ship? I paid for it on Sun. night and it has yet to ship. Thanks.
The website says orders are typcially shipped in 3-5 business days. Modules typically ship faster then that, but there are many, many factors that play in to how long it takes. |
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| slash007 |
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Originally posted by 07aspenx
So you need a module for each window?
No, you would only need one. The module is supposed to mimic putting the key in the door and holding it (counter clockwise) which would close all 4 windows and the sunroof. |
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| 07aspenx |
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Originally posted by slash007
No, you would only need one. The module is supposed to mimic putting the key in the door and holding it (counter clockwise) which would close all 4 windows and the sunroof.
Nice! Let me know how it works out, I may be interested in getting one also. |
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| bigdivot1 |
| Here's another question. If you unlock car and don't enter it soon, it will re-lock itself. So...if you unlock and roll down windows and don't open a door soon, will it roll the windows back up, then re-lock? I'll have to try it. |
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| slash007 |
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Originally posted by bigdivot1
Here's another question. If you unlock car and don't enter it soon, it will re-lock itself. So...if you unlock and roll down windows and don't open a door soon, will it roll the windows back up, then re-lock? I'll have to try it.
I doubt it because you actually have to press the lock button twice to roll up the windows. I got mine today and will post once I get it installed. |
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| shiretsu |
| This seems like a pretty reasonable price to add a great feature to the X. I would love to do this if it was easy enough to install. How'd it go Slash? |
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| slash007 |
| I was going to install it my self, but I couldn't find instructions on removing the drivers door panel and got cold feet. I am searching for someone to install it, but so far most have told me they won't do it. |
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| KPierson |
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Originally posted by slash007
I was going to install it my self, but I couldn't find instructions on removing the drivers door panel and got cold fee. I am searching for someone to install it, but so far most have told me they won't do it.
If you're willing to come to Dayton I'll install it for free. |
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| slash007 |
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Originally posted by KPierson
If you're willing to come to Dayton I'll install it for free.
I found a shop that said they would look at it on Wed. If it doesn't work out, I might take you up on your offer. I am only about 2.5 hours from Dayton. Thanks. |
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| grandzu |
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Originally posted by slash007
but so far most have told me they won't do it.
What kind of places did you ask? Dealers or regular mechanics?
Did they say why they won't do it? Is it complicated or getting into things they don't want to mess with?
I'm interested in how well this module works for the MDX. |
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| KPierson |
The primary reason most places won't install things like this is because they don't carry it in stock and don't have any experiance installing them. There is nothing complicated about installing the module and any installer should have no problems at all getting it to work.
The bottom line is that shops make more money when they install the products they sell. They make profit off the initial sale and can install things faster if they are familiar with them.
People that have had shops install these modules typically get charged an hourly rate (usually around $50 an hour, it shouldn't take more then 1.5 hours max). |
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| slash007 |
| like he said, most shops told me they only install what they sell. I found a shop to do it and I'm here waiting for them to finish. I'll post once I'm done. they said it looks simple and should be quick but I've been waiting almost two hours now. |
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| KPierson |
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Originally posted by slash007
like he said, most shops told me they only install what they sell. I found a shop to do it and I'm here waiting for them to finish. I'll post once I'm done. they said it looks simple and should be quick but I've been waiting almost two hours now.
If they have any questions or issues let me know. |
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| slash007 |
| what number can they call you at if need be? |
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| slash007 |
| Well, I just got time raped pretty much. After 3 hours of waiting and them telling me that they were almost done, I got my car back and the piece was sitting in the front seat. I asked about it and was told that the installer was not comfortable installing it. He measured some voltages and didn't like what he got, so he was afraid to fry the system. I'm just pissed at the 3 hours I spent waiting and doing nothing. That and they had fun with my car. My audio settings were all played with and my memory seat was off and the seat moved. So I'm back at square one. |
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| KPierson |
What were they not comfortable with? Did they charge you anything or just waste your time?
3 hours to pull a door panel off and measure a few wires is outragious... |
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| slash007 |
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Originally posted by KPierson
What were they not comfortable with? Did they charge you anything or just waste your time?
3 hours to pull a door panel off and measure a few wires is outragious...
I'm not sure what they were not comfortable with, but they just said that the installer was afraid he would fry the system. They did not charge me, but after waiting 3 hours for nothing I feel like I should charge them. At this point I am just extremely annoyed. They told me it would be done in an hour, then I end up missing work for nothing. |
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| mjkasper |
When you do get it installed please take some good pictures of how to remove the door panel and how to install the unit. I'd love to add this to my '08 MDX once it is proven and I know how to add it.
I look forward to hearing how it works for you. |
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| slash007 |
| I just want to update that I finally got this installed and it works great. I found a local shop that I had dealt with before and they agreed to install it. They charged me 2 hours labor. I'm sure it didn't take that long, but I was out of options. They said that the hardest part was running a wire from the ignition switch to the door, otherwise it was straight forward. |
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| mjkasper |
| Are you saying that a wire needs to be routed from inside the door to the steering column? The installation directions don't indicate this. |
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| slash007 |
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Originally posted by mjkasper
Are you saying that a wire needs to be routed from inside the door to the steering column? The installation directions don't indicate this.
Yes. The installation instructions seem simple, but they don't apply to all cars. I was told that the wire was necessary for most newer ones. |
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| KPierson |
You don't have to run an ignition wire in to the door.
There should be a RAP signal inside the door that tells the power window system when it is allowed to operate - that signal should be used.
If, for some reason, there isn't a RAP wire inside the door then I would recomend leaving the ignition wire unhooked - it's only purpose is to prevent the module from working when the ignition is on. However, 99% of cars block this feature anyway, so it basically is a redundant safety feature.
I realize this information doesn't help much now, but I figured I would throw it out there. |
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| shiretsu |
| Thanks for the update. So, what did this ultimately cost? |
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| slash007 |
| $60 for the part + $160 labor for a total of $220. I have to add that it is very convenient to have. |
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| shiretsu |
| Still seems pretty reasonable. I would imagine the labor part could vary though. Thanks to you at least we would have a rough idea going into it. Sounds like a great feature to have for summer afternoons when a T-storm pops up. |
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