| laborlitigator |
| I think I'll bid on the catch. . . pretty cheap |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by gmc74
I have to correct you yet again, they are 14-0 against the west :)
I would look to 2/22 at Phoenix, and then they have a stretch from 3/14 -3/28 were Boston has -
Utah at home
At San Antonio
At Dallas
At New Orleans
Phoenix at home
That will tell a lot. Boston is currently one of only 3 teams in the east that has a winning record against the west, vs 4 teams from the west that have a losing record against the east.
I am a huge Uconn fan, and to see Ray Allen finally on a team with a chance to win, makes me pretty happy.
Well, question 1 has been answered, they did not play well at all against Phoenix. Partially because the Suns shut them down, and partially because they were horrible. Ray Allen, who I think is great, sucked it big time tonight.
Since the above post, the Celtics have lost 3 in a row, and 3 against the west.
Not looking good. |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by gmc74
Well, question 1 has been answered, they did not play well at all against Phoenix. Partially because the Suns shut them down, and partially because they were horrible. Ray Allen, who I think is great, sucked it big time tonight.
Since the above post, the Celtics have lost 3 in a row, and 3 against the west.
Not looking good.
Far too early to crown an NBA champion. Lots of basketball still to be played. At least at this point, it would appear that the Celts have as good a shot as ANYONE! Its been 20 years since we could say that. |
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| laborlitigator |
| I give Detroit the heads up on Boston right now, but I'll take either one as long as it is someone from the East. |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
I give Detroit the heads up on Boston right now, but I'll take either one as long as it is someone from the East.
Those are two good options from the east, wait, those are the only two options from the east...
I think Detroit is a better team. The west is wide open right now, there are a bunch of teams that will beat each other up in the play offs then probably lose to Detroit in the finals. |
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| laborlitigator |
| I don't think the West is open. It's still San Antonio until I see a team that plays better defense. |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
I don't think the West is open. It's still San Antonio until I see a team that plays better defense.
I think Phoenix got Shaq specifically for the match up with San Antonio...
The Lakers are playing really well right now too, we shall see. The Suns need to get back on the ball. |
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| laborlitigator |
Pats lose Samuels and Stallworth
Gints lose Wilson and Mitchell |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3273447
Thanks for the newsflashes.
Just got an invoice for next season....ticket prices up from $125 to $169. OUCH!
I guess Kraft needs to pay for the new guys he will be bringing in. |
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| laborlitigator |
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Originally posted by Maik
I guess Kraft needs to pay for the new guys he will be bringing in.
Like who? You guys are notorious for paying bottom dollar and getting excellent results. It's all because Bill's system is what counts, right? |
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| hammermdx |
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Originally posted by laborlitigator
Like who? You guys are notorious for paying bottom dollar and getting excellent results. It's all because Bill's system is what counts, right?
Looks like Moss is staying put: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3274806 |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by Maik
Thanks for the newsflashes.
Just got an invoice for next season....ticket prices up from $125 to $169. OUCH!
I guess Kraft needs to pay for the new guys he will be bringing in.
wow, over 33% increase, that is nuts! Imagine how much it would have been if they didn't choke in the big one. |
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| hammermdx |
Here we go again: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3386162
After brokering a deal to protect himself, former New England Patriots employee Matt Walsh has finally turned over his evidence in the videotaping controversy.
The New York Times reported and the NFL confirmed on Wednesday that Walsh sent eight tapes to the league that show the Patriots recording the play-calling signals of five opponents in six games between 2000 and 2002.
Taping the signals of opposing teams is prohibited by league rules, and the Patriots were already fined $750,000 and docked a first-round draft choice in September for taping the New York Jets. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell left open the possibility that more penalties could be levied.
A Patriots employee from 1997-2003, Walsh reached an agreement to turn over the tapes in exchange for being indemnified from all future legal fees.
The New York Times obtained a list of the Walsh tapes, and the league confirmed that list, which says that the Patriots taped offensive and defensive coaches in regular-season games against the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns and San Diego Chargers. The team also made video of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2002 AFC Championship Game.
Walsh's tapes do not include the video of the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough before the 2002 Super Bowl, as reported by the Boston Herald.
"Mr. Walsh has never claimed to have a tape of the walk-through," said Walsh's lawyer Michael Levy, according to the Times. "Mr. Walsh has never been the source of any of the media speculation about such a tape. Mr. Walsh was not the source for the Feb. 2 Boston Herald article."
Walsh has separate meetings scheduled on Tuesday with the commissioner and Senator Arlen Specter in which he is expected to provide additional details about the taping process.
Under his agreement with the league, Walsh can retain copies of his videotapes, but he cannot use them without the consent of the NFL. |
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| laborlitigator |
| That should close this issue out. |
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| hammermdx |
For sure: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/colum...mike&id=3387401
From Day 1 of the Spygate saga in September, the controversy over New England's illicit videotaping practices has centered on the Patriots' efforts to steal their opponents' defensive signals. But the tapes delivered via FedEx to NFL headquarters in New York on Thursday morning also include evidence of an effort by New England to steal offensive signals, which would broaden the extent of the team's surveillance operation.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and staff members began viewing the eight tapes within hours of their long-awaited delivery, in anticipation of Tuesday's scheduled interview with former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh. As part of an indemnification pact reached last month with the league, Walsh agreed to turn over any videotapes or related materials he had from his tenure with the team.
Perhaps the surprise entry on the list of videotaping documents Walsh turned over to the league was tape No. 3, labeled "OFF Signals" from New England's game against the Miami Dolphins on Oct. 7, 2001. That is the only tape labeled as such on a copy of the list obtained by ESPN.com. Walsh's attorney, Michael Levy, confirmed it was the lone footage in Walsh's possession of offensive coaches' signaling from the sidelines.
"[It] contains shots of Miami's offensive coaches signaling Miami's offensive players, followed by a shot from the end zone camera of Miami's offensive play, followed by a shot of Miami's offensive coaches signaling Miami's offensive players for the next play, then edited to be followed by a shot of the subsequent Miami offensive play," Levy said of the tape. "And that pattern repeats throughout the entire tape, with occasional cuts to the scoreboard."
Goodell has made repeated references to the stealing of defensive signals by New England. That is, in part, presumably because the league has allowed direct radio communication from a coach to the quarterback since the 1994 season, diminishing the need for hand signals.
"We don't know [about attempts to steal offensive signals] yet because we haven't looked at the tapes," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Thursday before the league had completed its review of the new evidence. "All we have is the list supplied last night [by Walsh's attorney]. One of them is labeled 'OFF signals.' None of others are listed that way. Let us look at the tapes and we'll have more to say about that.
"The rule which the Patriots violated was the policy that prohibits use of equipment for the taping of offensive or defense signals. I know there've been references to defensive signals, which is more logical. But let us look at the tapes and verify what is on there."
Although Walsh turned over eight tapes this week, the number of games in which he personally videotaped opposing coaches is unclear. One source told ESPN.com that it "absolutely" is not the case that the six games on the eight tapes are the only instances the Patriots taped opponents during Walsh's tenure with the team.
One of the eight tapes in the package was shot by someone other than Walsh. It is a Sept. 29, 2002, game against San Diego, which was shot after Walsh was promoted from the video department. That tape captures just the coaches on the sideline, and the scoreboard before the game action is edited in.
The Patriots declined the opportunity to comment on Thursday.
The advancing sophistication in New England's videotaping practices apparently is also evident on the tapes, which begin with a Sept. 25, 2000, game against Miami and run through that 2002 game against San Diego. It's also obvious throughout that the video shooter has one job on game day: to capture the opposing team's sideline coaches.
In one of the last tapes that Walsh shot -- the 2002 AFC Championship Game against the Pittsburgh Steelers -- the finished product includes sideline footage of the Pittsburgh coaches sending in signals, followed by a scan of the scoreboard that captures down, distance and game time, followed by two separate shots of the ensuing play, one from above the press box and the other from an end zone camera.
"The other seven tapes show the final product, which is a series of coaches' signals, followed by the play, followed by coaches' signals and then the next play -- all lined up one after another," said Levy, who represents Walsh. "So the final videotapes contain the opposing coaches' signals lined up directly with the play that was run, one after another."
Goodell is likely to quiz Walsh on these issues at their meeting scheduled for 7:30 a.m. Tuesday. Walsh is scheduled to travel to Washington, D.C., later in the day to meet with Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Specter has been critical of the NFL for destroying evidence turned over in September by New England, including six other tapes and notes from other taped games. Although those tapes only date back to the 2006 season, Aiello, the NFL spokesperson, said Thursday the notes dated to at least the 2002 season.
The notes were destroyed, and Aiello said he is uncertain whether there is any record of the games involved. He did say that Goodell previously informed Specter that details on the taping of the 2002 AFC championship, as well as three other games with Pittsburgh, were part of the notes.
Aiello said it has yet to be decided whether the Walsh tapes will be made public. But as the tapes arrived at the league office in New York, officials were relieved to find the package didn't include a long-rumored video of the St. Louis Rams' walk-through practice the day before the 2002 Super Bowl, which would have put a huge cloud over the league's marquee event.
"That is fair assumption," Aiello said of the feelings of relief in the league office. "I'd rather leave those questions and answers to the commissioner, but it's unfortunate that that had been reported, and apparently there's no substance to it." |
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